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Unusual Occurrance But not Maybe

Original post made by Scott Walsh on Jul 22, 2011

This morning, my wife was on her way to work when she saw a "body" laying on a sidewalk in a small tot lot park near our home off Northway Road. My wife stopped to investigate and found that it was a young teenage girl, about 15, sleeping! She told my wife that she had gone to a girlfriend's house in the area last night with intent to spend a sleepover there. As the story goes, the parents of her girlfriend apparently said that she could not. For whatever reason, and kids lie alot at this age, did not go home (said she lived in Foothil High School Student District). She also did not call her parents for whatever reason, to come pick her up. My wife drove her home. I find this troubling, but maybe it is more common than we think or know. Kids get kicked out of their house and sleep in the parks. I have first hand knowledge of this. Drugs are running rampant and we are not getting in front of this epidemic. The TriValley is known as "Oxy" Valley for the high Oxycontin use and the fact that our kids here have money. I believe it is way out of control. Kids that can't get Oxycontin are getting a poor grade hash and smoking it or are shooting up. This Heroin is cut, these days with rat poison and other God awful chemicals. The pushers don't care. I am not blaming anyone nor do I feel it is the Council's or Police Department's issue. But I do question the value of effort when comparing our communitie's focus on the Environment when our juvenile community is so "toxic and addicted". I am writing this in the hopes of stimulating a positive discussion and ask that allthat choose to comment keep it positive. No need to bash one party or the other. This is not a Repub/Demo discussion. George Washington feared the institution of political parties because he believed it would become all about the party and not about what was best for the country. That is what it has come too but for a different discussion time. This discussion is about kids. Thank You and I thank my wife for taking the time to investigate what she saw and how she then responded. Most people would not have involved themselves, but would have just driven on. She was late to work and I hope her Boss understands.

Comments

Posted by GX, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 22, 2011 at 9:21 am

Thank you and your wife for getting involved and taking the kid home. Hopefully, the parents are now more aware.


Posted by unclehomerr.., a resident of Downtown
on Jul 22, 2011 at 9:45 am


Would you 'splain why a minor child down on the sidewalk, is not a police matter?

And.. how wise is it to put a minor child in your vehicle and drive her anywhere??

You stated 'kids lie a lot at this age'.

unclehomerr..


Posted by Mary, a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Jul 22, 2011 at 10:20 am

Totally Agree with you Uncle Homer... I appreciate the "wife" being concerned but I would have called the police and had them handle the matter with the parents.. The parents need to know what was going on with their daughter.. It makes me wonder if the "wife" even talked to the Parents of the girl when she dropped her off.. if so what did the parents say?? or did you let her out of the car and the daughter problaby lied to the parents and now the parents have no clue thier daughter slept on the sidewalk over night...


Posted by Mellow Fellow, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 22, 2011 at 10:20 am

First of all excellent post. In saying that, there are a few things that strike concern in me about the facts. An adult seeing a child in distress should NOT under any circumstances take direct action. It may be dangerous, the surface facts may be hiding a deeper and potentially more harmful problem, and lastly, the welfare of a minor is not a simple parental matter.

You should have called the police immediately upon ascertaining that the endangered person was a minor. You should have NOT driven her home. This places you in direct liability much less getting involved in a matter that goes beyond your expertise and civic responsibility.

I agree with unclehomerr here. What made you think anything about this circumstance was NOT a police matter? But, your intentions were good, and I applaud that. At least you did something. Still, you could have potentially aggravated an already frothy matter.

I hope you see my comments as positive or at least constructive.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Jul 22, 2011 at 11:48 am

You're lucky that you were not beaten, raped, and robbed.

How was this was not a police matter?

I have a hunch that this a fake report. A responsible adult would have immediately contacted the police and filed a report.

The only thing that I appreciate about this post is remembering that George Washington had wooden teeth! tee hee hee, tee hee hee...


Posted by Sam, a resident of Oak Hill
on Jul 22, 2011 at 12:32 pm

Yeah, Scott, a 15 year old girl sleeping overnight on the sidewalk? This one is so easy that even Unclehomer could figure out the correct answer. And, believe me, that doesn't happen very often. You should have called the police and had them investigate the matter to find out what was really going on.


Posted by Mellow Fellow, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 22, 2011 at 5:58 pm

You know, ol' unclehomerr! I've been noticing that you've been receiving more accolades lately for being on point and insightful. I hope there is no need to worry about you. Just joking, good post.


Posted by amusing post, a resident of Downtown
on Jul 22, 2011 at 7:46 pm

Sorry Scott, not buying this. Would YOU have picked up a minor female from the sidewalk and driven her ANYWHERE? Got a good lawyer? Failing to call the police was wrong, this is not a citizen matter, without regard for why the girl was sleeping on the sidewalk. Or passed out or in a drug induced haze.
If the dealers put enough rat poison in the drugs that would solve the problem wouldn't it? Parents who don't do their job will ultimately get what they deserve. Unfortunately, so will others who are just trying to live their lives.


Posted by unclehomerr.., a resident of Downtown
on Jul 22, 2011 at 9:39 pm


You're right! That's two!!

mellowunclehomerr..


Posted by Blossom, a resident of Stoneridge Orchards
on Jul 23, 2011 at 6:21 am

I wouldn't have stopped, period. Let people take care of themselves. You helped this girl and now she'll expect help from suckers like you for the rest of her life. She's destined to become a member of an entitlement group ----- that I'm going to have to pay for. Let them lie on the street for the rest of their sorry lives as far as I'm concerned. No unfunded liabilities allowed!


Posted by gc, a resident of Foothill Farms
on Jul 25, 2011 at 2:20 pm

How does one random event color everyone's entire world view and make us think the sky is falling. First, we have no real context provided about who this girl is. (like, if we knew she was abused, one could justify praising her for not going home) If this happened in 1978 it would not really be any different than now. And believe me, this type of thing happened 30 years ago just alike. And the same "glass pipes" and pot baggies that are found in the bushes near Pleasanton's fine neighborhoods are also found in the estate neighborhoods of San Ramon.


Posted by joanna, a resident of Downtown
on Jul 25, 2011 at 9:05 pm

I'm glad that your wife stopped to help her. Lying there she was vulnerable to being attacked. It's a dangerous world and many rape/homicide victims fall prey to predators by being drunk or high and unable to make judgements or defend themselves. Hope her parents gave her hell, too. Young women need to be aware that they are inviting disaster by losing control like that in an unsafe environment. A sex crimes police officer spoke to my daughter's class and advised them to be aware and in control of themselves when they go to parties or other situations where there are drugs and alcohol being used.


Posted by Roxanne, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Jul 26, 2011 at 5:57 am

What's more important? Rescuing an irresponsible teen who probably deserves what she got? Or keeping Pleasanton's streets free of riff-raff? I rest my case.


Posted by Susie, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 26, 2011 at 6:40 am

PLEASANTON, open your eyes. We have a major DRUG problem here.


Posted by educated, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jul 26, 2011 at 8:04 pm

What? Pleasanton doesn't have a drug problem...it's Pleasonton. Kids have money so they sneak their parents alcohol and buy weed. That's not a drug problem. It's only a concern for the parents of those kids and the police. And oxy? That's made up...and what does any of this have to do with some random girl sleeping in the road? If she really was 15, then she probably got wasted for the first time and was afraid to go home drunk or hungover.


Posted by Bob, a resident of Happy Valley
on Jul 27, 2011 at 6:05 am

We never had a drug problem in Arkansas. Corn liquer, maybe a little bit. And a little glue sniffing here and there. Now, I'm a good parent. Lots of video games, three plasma tv's and I'm always contributing to my kids higher culture by taking them to country western hootinannies and some of the outer county rodeos. Trying to protect them from the evil things. Stay away from history and philosophy and the gay-related things like Van Go and Baytovin. Just take money courses. You know, not stuff that makes you think but just stuff to help you make a buck. That's what got me into the upper class.