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Research Findings: "The Truth About Public School Teacher Pay"

Original post made by teacher on Nov 1, 2011

To challenge the common belief that public school teachers, on average, are not compensated well, please read the following article by the Heritage Foundation.

An Excerpt:
“Existing public-school teachers receive wages that are at least as high as comparably skilled workers," they explain, “while their benefits and job security exceed what they could earn in the private sector. Overall, public-school-teacher compensation exceeds private levels by approximately 52 percent, for a total of more than $120 billion annually in excessive labor costs."


Findings >>> Web Link

The PUSD teachers are paid at a higher end of the National percentile range.

Comments

Posted by no argument here, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 1, 2011 at 2:56 pm

""More fundamental reform of teacher compensation," they continue, "would scrap the existing rewards for education and experience—and instead pay market rates to teachers who are measurably effective."

Ultimately, these changes will benefit students, parents, and teachers alike by providing a more competitive teaching and learning environment."

To do so would require teacher union reform.


Posted by no more teacher raises, a resident of Downtown
on Nov 1, 2011 at 3:05 pm

You will never get pay and benefit reform from a group of people who would not even freeze S & C. They not only refused to take any cuts -- they refused to stop the raises.
Pay them based on performance, let them leave if they choose. There are a hundred or more waiting to take the high paying Pleasanton jobs for every opening.


Posted by Please!, a resident of Danville
on Nov 1, 2011 at 3:10 pm

Numbskulls, all. The Heritage Foundation... right-wing big bucks pay mucho bucks to half-wits who aren't good enough to make tenure at most decent universities. The half-wits sit around, mostly, eat good food, and occasionally produce a schlock piece of work that is immediately debunked for its bad research. In this case? Counting the salaries of priests, brothers and nuns at private schools is going to skew the numbers just a weeeeee bit. The Heritage Foundation is a joke. Then you have idiots like 'no argument' and 'teacher' (right, sure thing) lapping up the lies without hesitation, without thought. Nice there's always an audience of dunces out there, places like the Heritage Foundation will thrive.


Posted by Mike, a resident of Highland Oaks
on Nov 1, 2011 at 3:58 pm

Anyway, no parcel tax, 'kay?

Mike


Posted by teacher, a resident of Amador Estates
on Nov 1, 2011 at 4:19 pm

Dear "Please!"
Since you are such a "genius" (not) compared to the Heritage Foundation researchers whose character you try to bash (since most liberals first engage in character attacks when they cannot constructively debate content), let me make this suggestion.

How about at least trying to pinpoint where the researchers/authors of this research have it wrong. Is there something wrong with their methodology? Have at it 'genius' and let's see where you 'tower' above these people at the Heritage Foundation.

(By the way, I have a PhD from Northwestern in Research Methodology (Psychology Department) and will be very interested in your constructive criticism of their research.


Posted by ta, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 1, 2011 at 4:58 pm

To "Please", I thought you did a very good job in describing the studies of the California Teach Association (CTA). Only difference is they are financed by the left-wing and you are associating this organization with the right-wing.


Posted by Please!, a resident of Danville
on Nov 1, 2011 at 6:30 pm

So-called "teacher." You seem to have missed my criticism of the Heritage Foundation smear job. Please re-read it, with all of your erudition.

Then, please explain to us what in the world is a Ph.D. in, um, "Research Methodology." I'll tell you what it is: it's a Ph.D. in lying. Go lie to some other audience, you fraud.

Signed,
Ph.D. in a reputed social science discipline


Posted by Frank, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Nov 1, 2011 at 9:57 pm

"The PUSD teachers are paid at a higher end of the National percentile range."

Jimf01,

PUSD test scores are at the higher end of the range too. Seems like we are getting results.

UC Berkeley professors are paid at the high end of their range too. Cal grads earn higher starting salaries and are more sought out by employers than other schools.

Mike,

I'm OK with a parcel tax. We have a top school district. Why do you you say no?


Posted by Mike, a resident of Highland Oaks
on Nov 2, 2011 at 2:16 am

Frank,

I do not have a problem with salaries per se. My feeling is that the district needs to stop wasting money before it hits me up for more cash.

Mike


Posted by Ugh, a resident of Birdland
on Nov 2, 2011 at 8:21 am

Same ole whiny whiny.


Posted by Mom, a resident of Foothill High School
on Nov 2, 2011 at 8:30 am

'The PUSD teachers are paid at a higher end of the National percentile range'

Isn't this to be expected as our cost of living is at the high end of the of the National percentile? I'm sure that my hairstylist rates, the fees charged for sports (BUSC, Rage) and dance as well as food, and taxes are all aat the nigh end of the National percentile. It only makes sense.

Nurses here are very well paid (more than double in what they get in some other states). I dont' hear anyone complaining about that.

Our schools are performing at the top. Our high schools are consistently ranked at the top of country. We are getting a return.

Quit bashing the teachers. They work hard and do an awesome job with our kids. I have two kids in the schools and they are a very caring and compassionate group. They have a passion for what they do.

Let's take up with the administrators at the district office... they are ones messing everything up. I like the suggeston on a previous thread... 'Occupy PUSD'.


Posted by Julie, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 2, 2011 at 5:15 pm

Julie is a registered user.

Thank you "Mom" for your reasonable post!


Posted by Resident, a resident of Foothill High School
on Nov 2, 2011 at 7:31 pm

Mom, I agree with you! What you said seems so obvious to me, that I'm not sure why the person who started this thread didn't see that point. Sounds like they are just trying to stir up some ranting and teacher bashing. Your post is the only one worth reading here.