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10-year old killed in crash near Ruby Hill

Original post made on Nov 17, 2008

A boy who was killed in a crash in Livermore Saturday afternoon has been identified as 10-year-old San Jose resident Jonathan Manzo, an
Alameda County coroner's deputy said Sunday.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Monday, November 17, 2008, 4:30 AM


Posted by OMG, a resident of Bonde Ranch
on Nov 17, 2008 at 9:09 am

Patience...this is something that a lot of people need to learn.. you will eventually get to your destination why risk your life let alone another persons just as in this case.

Posted by Frustrated, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 17, 2008 at 11:45 am

When will people learn? Why do so many innocent people have to die because of idiots on the road?

Posted by resident, a resident of Downtown
on Nov 17, 2008 at 1:16 pm

A 17 yr old idiot to boot. Wonder if he was on his cell phone or text messaging while speeding to pass the car. He needs to be tried for voluntary manslaughter and locked up for as long as the law will allow. And publish his name for heaven sake, stupid enough to murder with a car, he deserves to be named.

Posted by gary, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 17, 2008 at 1:59 pm

Its sad to hear about the lost of life. We have create this hurry up society and must realize that laws cant control people action. Understanding that limits are made for are safety and those around us. safety start with us, everyone is important.

Posted by bel, a resident of Val Vista
on Nov 17, 2008 at 2:17 pm

Poor kid, poor family, its so sad such a young life was lost and because some idiots selfishness.

I really think the age limit for getting a licence should be higher, at least require people to be a legal adult before they can get them. You have to be 18 to buy cigarettes, but 16 to drive?! driving is more deadly.

Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 17, 2008 at 4:49 pm

Tragic tragic tragic. Does anybody know if the driver who killed the kid was on alcohol or drugs?


Posted by MainStreetDiva, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Nov 17, 2008 at 4:51 pm

I'm curious whether everyone was wearing seatbelts...

Posted by resident, a resident of Bridle Creek
on Nov 17, 2008 at 6:37 pm

ok you parents arent amazing drivers either. iv been hit by two adults driving because they wernt paying attention to the road. i bet this kid feel so bad its not like did it on purpose .

Posted by MainStreetDiva, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Nov 17, 2008 at 7:21 pm

This article states that (at this point) alcohol was not a factor.
Web Link

Posted by kool, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 17, 2008 at 8:13 pm

ive seen the accident it ws not kool it was scary and sad

Posted by cakelady, a resident of another community
on Nov 17, 2008 at 8:28 pm

My heartfelt sympathies to all concerned. No one involved will ever be the same, physically or emotionally. It is a pain that doesn't go away. To the aparently "young" Bridle Creek postee..I disagree with you. When a driver choses to disobey laws of the road, operate their vehicle in an unsafe manner, and put others lives in jeopardy it is a choice made and it is "on purpose." The consequenses may not be fully understood, however, that is why there are rules! Please learn from the mistakes of others before making them yourself!
Sweetly, the cake lady.

Posted by Soccer Mom, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 18, 2008 at 3:17 pm

We were returning from the same soccer tournament in Manteca as this boys family. An email we received today from our BUSC director noted that this boy did not want rescue workers to cut off his uniform because he had another game to play on Sunday morning. Who knew he had just played his last game. What a tragic loss. Note to all teenage drivers---SLOW DOWN.

Posted by Still sad, a resident of another community
on Nov 18, 2008 at 8:06 pm

To answer some of the questions. They were all wearing their seat belts and no alcohol was involved. It was just a reckless driver who let road rage and stupidity get the best of him.

Posted by Still sad, a resident of another community
on Nov 18, 2008 at 9:25 pm

Jon was an amazing boy who showed courage of a man. He was more concerned about his mom than his own situation. We lost a truly wonderful human being that night. I am certain his family will appreciate your well wishes and prayers.

Posted by Stockton Monarcas FC, a resident of another community
on Nov 18, 2008 at 10:02 pm

our sincere condolences go out to the family of this young man and the Santa Clara Sporting Soccer Club.
May God give you the strength to get through these trying times.


Benjamin Gonzalez
Stockton Monarcas FC

Posted by resident, a resident of Downtown
on Nov 18, 2008 at 11:23 pm

Such a sad time for that kid and his family. Too bad that the 17 yr old punk will remain anonymous and likely uncharged. He deserves to rot in the hell he has made for this loving family. And for the parents who raised such a worthless piece of garbage, you deserve your own hell too.

Posted by Neighbor, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Nov 19, 2008 at 8:40 am

There are so many accidents in that area. They should have NEVER made pigeon pass into a 4 lane freeway as this only brings more spped and more fatalitites. We heard the crash and watched the investigators all night try to find answerers as to what happened. We are thinking about the family who lost their 10 year old and hope and pray that justice is serviced to the 17 year old and tried as an adult. God bless.

Posted by TM, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 19, 2008 at 9:24 am

Just a reminder those of you criticizing and making assumptions about the 17 year old driver based on his age: people of all ages make fatal errors behind the wheel due to impatience. I am certainly not defending the boy for his stupidity, but as adults we tend to blame the youth and then ignore the fact that we do the same things ourselves. My heart truly goes out to the family who lost their beloved son.

Posted by Me first, a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Nov 19, 2008 at 9:51 am

An incident such as this usually requires two willing participants to have a result such as this. If when some speeds up to pass (regardless of whether they are right are wrong), YOU make the decision to slow down and let them pass, the issue is resolved, and everyone lives. Karma will catch up with the inpatient.

My prayers to the family for a childs life lost so young.

Posted by Kona, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Nov 19, 2008 at 6:36 pm

First off, I want to say my heart goes out to the family of the young boy. It's so sad to see a life so young put to rest. My thoughts are with the family.

As for the driver, however horrible the consequence was for his reckless speeding I will not take his age into consideration. Yes this was a horrible accident but his age has nothing to do with it. My younger brother accidentally rear ended someone at the age of 17, minor damage,no problem. However he has been hit multiple times by -ADULTS- who were being reckless, speeding, or just not paying attention. Myself being 21 have seen more adults on cell phones, speeding, or dodging in and out of traffic and I know 16-18 year old driver who are more conscientious of how they drive than most others.

So please stop blaming age for accidents like this. ANYONE is capable of being a horrible driver and causing fatal accidents.

Posted by resident, a resident of Downtown
on Nov 19, 2008 at 7:04 pm

OK, let's stop playing the age game. Hold that piece of garbage accountable as an adult. If an adult would get 10 years (or hopefully more) for voluntary manslaughter then don't let that stupid 17 yr old out of prison at age 23. You can't have it both ways. Either he is a kid and gets out early or he is an adult. ANYONE who murders another person in this way should be locked up for many years anyway. Get off your cell phones, pay attention and slow down.

Posted by Carrie, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Nov 19, 2008 at 9:00 pm

I live near this road and I thought it was poorly designed. I sometimes feel like I'm going to get hit too.

I have 2 boys who are 21 and 23...obviously they were 19 and 10 years old at one time too... I can see the tragedy to both families. I am so very sorry for the child who died...he reminds me of my own boys and it makes me very, very sad. I will pray for him and his family.

The boy who caused the accident will re-live it until the day he dies-and so will his parents. He can do something with his life to make Jonathan proud. I will pray for this young man and his family too.

Posted by unclehomerr.., a resident of Downtown
on Nov 19, 2008 at 9:11 pm

Carrie.. I share your feelings. Nice post.

Prayers and condolences are appropriate. Criticism.. NOT!


Posted by lequish, a resident of Vineyard Hills
on Nov 19, 2008 at 9:28 pm

This is a tragedy for both families. A young life taken by one thoughtless act. The teenager is probably like any other teenager. In the middle of his life, not thinking things through. Maybe worried he was getting home late and would get in trouble. He just might be a decent kid. And now his life is changed forever due to one little mistake. Unfortuantely that little mistake has had huge consequences.
The poor Family who lost their little boy. I just pray for both of them that they can get through this difficult time.

Posted by JTM, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Nov 19, 2008 at 10:25 pm

I'm sure that the kid underestimated what would happen if he took a risk. Obviously the turnout was devastating. But I'm sure that by reading everyone's comments about him, he feels even worse about breaking that family's chain. I also watched the after-effects on top of the ruby hill fence, there were fire trucks and policemen everywhere, but I did see two bodies, both were alive. I thought everything would be alright when I saw the bodies moving. But as the article said, the boy died in the hospital. It is sad that people would rather endanger themselves and others while taking risks rather than just using a safe route.

Posted by Marcia, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 19, 2008 at 11:26 pm

It's our (adults) fault that we legally allow 17 year olds to drive.

Posted by nicoleT, a resident of another community
on Nov 20, 2008 at 4:19 pm

My thoughts and prayers go out to the family that lost their young son. I am so very sorry for your loss. Everyday people make mistakes on the road that have tragic consequences. As a community, let's learn from this. Let's educate local teen drivers about the consequences of aggressive driving.

Posted by Concerned Parent, a resident of Vineyard Hills
on Nov 20, 2008 at 9:48 pm

My thoughts and prayers also go out to this family that lost their precious son. It is not only kids that can make bad choices, adults do too. A woman chose to race the light on Vineyard at Montevino and hit my daughter's car broadside on the passenger side and totalled it. Thankfully my daughter was the only one in the car and not hurt. The woman then proceeded to tell other people around town that my daughter was on her cell phone at the time of the accident and it was her fault! Thanks to cell phone records we were able to prove her lie! Please slow down - if you don't value your life at least think about others.

Posted by Neighbor, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Nov 21, 2008 at 8:30 am


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 21, 2008 at 12:25 pm

Marcia...if you feel that guilty then go hang on a cross...sheeeeeesh...

Posted by Soledad, a resident of Pleasanton Village
on Nov 24, 2008 at 9:03 am

I am not one to judge, age makes no difference here, this 17 year deserve a severe punishmeny, even if he we're 45,56,or65. He took an innocent child's life, and too the peace of his family. He should get Manslaughter!! He needs to learn to be patinet , and in prison he will learn to have all the patientce, in the worl. He will at least be able to have family visits, when this poor chil's family will only have a grave to visit. Justice needs to be made.


Posted by DB, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 25, 2008 at 7:45 am

I drive that route every week day (twice) and happened to drive by and get detoured the afternoon of the accident -- every day I see people making stupid decisions on that road (and other roads too), in all kinds of age ranges. Yes, older drivers may have more experience, but it doesn't necessarily make them better drivers -- this is just horrible for everyone involved, poor kiddo, I cried this morning thinking about this...thinking about my own kids and how this could happen to anyone. I always try to have distance between me and other cars - if they are suspect drivers, I create even more distance and try to get away from them. With that said, none of us are invincible and I worry about something like this happening to me or my family everyday.

Posted by Christina, a resident of another community
on Nov 25, 2008 at 10:17 pm

I knew Jonathan since he was in his mother's wound. My brother, and his older brother played in the same soccer team since they were 5. I saw Jonathan grow up, and i would occasionally see him at soccer tournaments. He was a great boy, very intelligent, so caring and energetic, and loved playing soccer. A great human being was lost Saturday. God, please bless his family and hopefully the media, and the sentencing of the 17 yr old driver do not interfere with the family's healing.

Posted by Carrrie, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Nov 27, 2008 at 8:32 pm

Soledad...interesting that you are not one to judge but, in one paragraph, you have tried, convicted and sentenced a minor. Thank goodness we have a legal system.

This whole situation is just terribly sad, even for people who do not know Jonathan or his family. I live near this road and I will think about it for years, myself. And 20 years from now, the other young man who caused the accident will be hurting over it with his own kids too...and it will touch their lives as well. I suspect that this young man will hurt about it every day of his life - even more as he gets old. He will not be getting off scott free.

I have had little kids and I have had teenage children. Be careful about condemnation ... life has a way of teaching us how it is for the other person.