Town Square

Post a New Topic

Governor to deliver 'State of State' address this morning

Original post made on Jan 23, 2013

Governor Edmund G. Brown Jr. will deliver his State of the State address before a joint session of the California legislature on Thursday, Jan. 24. His remarks will start at 9 a.m. in the Assembly Chambers at the State Capitol in Sacramento.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, January 22, 2013, 7:55 AM

Comments (22)

Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jan 23, 2013 at 9:42 am

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

I wonder if the Governor will cover the elephant (in this case, whale) in the room. Web Link


Posted by Buttercup, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 23, 2013 at 9:57 am

Ha-Ha. That's really funny! People are treating Moonbeam as if he was the luminous one, B. Hussien Obama. I guess as the economy improves we shouldn't assume there will be more tax revenues. It's best just to think of us being in a depression and leave it at that. Ha! We've got HIS number.


Posted by Meyer on target !, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 23, 2013 at 11:04 am

Thank you, Kathleen. You are right on. I just logged on to comment on his tiny band-aid for future union pensions and healthcare, and the legis session closing hour trick to deceive us, pretending he had addressed that biggie..but did NOT !!
I had seen that whale in the chron. So I roared the instant I saw it here. Meyer is so on target.. his pictures are always worth a thousand words.


Posted by A Neighbor, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 23, 2013 at 11:38 am

I am a supporter of Brown. I believe he has done a very good job turning this state around since being elected to his third term in 2010.

He has dramatically cut the state budget deficit, improved the state's credit rating, cut waste and inefficiencies throughout all departments of state government. He pushed for a historic public safety realignment, led the nation, and the world, by raising the state's clean energy goal, chose to not commit public funds defending Prop 8 and is establishing new revenues to protect education and public safety funds for generations to come.

What more do you want from one man? What have you done to improve California?


Posted by Meyer on target !, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 23, 2013 at 11:59 am

not much I can do, since I'm on the VICTIM end of CA state public union excesses and in addition to the Gov, a worse than worthless legis that won't fix that whale either !! EVERYthing else is dwarfed by that whale of a fix that must happen....before all the money leaves the state.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jan 23, 2013 at 12:22 pm

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

This is not about one man, other than that he delivers the message about the state of our state. In doing so, he is not telling the truth about what the future holds.

"Check on Page 7 of the governor's budget summary, and you will find a chart showing that the state has $181 billion in unfunded retirement liabilities, including both pension costs and health care obligations. The biggest of these is $64.5 billion for CalSTRS, the teachers retirement system. Although the budget document notes such challenges, it proposes nothing beyond the status quo to address them." Web Link


"The governor's budget delayed paying back $1 billion in loan payments to previously raided funds and came up with a rosier economic forecast than the LAO's."
Web Link

Improve . . . I am one of many Californians picking up the tab, one that is increasingly being pushed off to our children and grandchildren. This isn't about one party over the other, by the way, they are both lousy with other people's money.


Posted by Staci, a resident of Apperson Ridge
on Jan 23, 2013 at 12:49 pm

BWA HA HA HA HA HA,
Thank you for that very very very funny cartoon, Kathleen. I've never laughed so hard in, well, ever! Ewwww, my ribs are soooo sore! A whale in the room! Oh, Kathleen! And I thought I had heard it all.

Yes, Kathleen, we need to go after the irresponsible governor and legislature and teachers and unions and voters. All of them who don't give an iota's worth of care for our children and grandchildren. They act like the economy is going to improve. But we all know that the economy, revenue streams, and taxes are static and fixed for all time. Thank you again Kathleen for your humor and all you do for California by paying your taxes.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jan 23, 2013 at 1:20 pm

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

Glad you got a giggle out of, well, whatever demons drive you.

Those are pretty big holes for a pick up in the economy to fill. You are right that revenues are not fixed, which is part of the reason the state is in such a mess--spend during the good times, spend during the bad times (well unless it's bad, really, really bad), just spend. Remember the tale about the grasshopper and the ants? Neither does anyone in Sacramento (or D.C). I'd agree part of the problem is irresponsible leadership, government or unions.


Posted by Staci, a resident of Apperson Ridge
on Jan 23, 2013 at 1:48 pm

The grasshopper and the ant. I can't STAND it!!! I never realized how complex economic issues could be so easily reduced to a cartoon or a fable. Thank you so very much, Kathleen, for these prescient insights into the nature of California's political economy. With folks like you doing the heavy intellectual lifting, we've got nothing to worry about.

Well, if the oppressive, nonlibertarian state creates a deficit to pay for teachers' terribly terribly inflated salaries and pensions, the best thing to do is just cut their salaries and pensions. That'll be good, really really good for the economy. Teachers will go hog wild with glee and spend all their reduced money on restaurants and extra xmas presents -- all in celebration of sacrificing themselves and their own families for the betterment of our grandchildren. With teachers and other public servant sponges having less money to spend, the economy will be stimulated, I mean really really stimulated. I LOVE the logic, Kathleen. And thank you again for your humor and, especially, your yeoman's work in paying your taxes. I don't think California could function without you.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jan 23, 2013 at 2:09 pm

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

I have already said teachers are not paid enough, and they should be allowed to move to other retirement planning. Neither would hurt the economy or their families or other people's extended families. But you go ahead and dream up controversies that aren't there.


Posted by Buttercup, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 23, 2013 at 8:26 pm

I see. Pay 'em a little more but sock it to 'em on pension. That way they lose money but, because they're so stupid and can't do the math, they'll still celebrate on account of their salary increase. And with their pension pulled out from under them, our grandkids will be protected from economic ruination at the hands of the pension hungry public teachers. Yep.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jan 23, 2013 at 9:28 pm

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

How would they lose money? They already make contributions.


Posted by Buttercup, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 24, 2013 at 7:05 am

Are you trying to be dumb? You seem to be succeeding. For I guess it's just expecting a bit too much for you to put forward a consistent argument and stick to it. You're the one who whined about "unfunded pension liabilities" to the tune of 64.5 billion. Then you say teachers aren't paid enough. And now you fail to see how 'pension reform' would amount to a loss of money for teachers. I don't think you know what you're talking about; nor do I think I should even bother attempting to squeeze any sense from you.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jan 24, 2013 at 7:51 am

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

There is plenty written about moving from defined benefit to defined contribution plans. I'll let you do the research. It takes time and money, so I would not suggest it is easy an easy. One thing is for sure, once you find yourself at the bottom of a hole, you have to stop digging. A good first step would be for the state and local governments to start addressing their unfunded liabilities.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jan 24, 2013 at 7:52 am

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

Sorry - would not suggest is is an easy process.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jan 24, 2013 at 9:04 am

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

There is also the issue of rising employee contributions being required - Web Link "The solution is a gradual and predictable increase in contribution rates." Teachers are already facing "loss of money."


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jan 24, 2013 at 10:09 am

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

On topic, here is the text of the Governor's address: Web Link


Posted by Buttercup, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 24, 2013 at 11:16 am

Wanted more than yet another link combined with a string of cliches and platitudes. Should've known better.

The grass always looks greener on the other side of the hill. Chin up! When it comes to linguistic form, Plato walks with the Macedonian swineherd, Confucius with the head-hunting savage of Assam. Easy is as easy does.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jan 24, 2013 at 12:02 pm

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

So, when the experts have something to say, it isn't enough? When I point to the fact that pension contributions are increasing and likely to continue to do so, that's to be ignored? And what solid information do you have to offer, Buttercup?


Posted by Buttercup, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 24, 2013 at 12:08 pm

No, I would say a mushhead like yourself deserves to be ignored.


Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jan 24, 2013 at 1:13 pm

Kathleen Ruegsegger is a registered user.

Good and bye. I wish I could say I'll miss your riveting commentary.


Posted by Meyer on target !, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 25, 2013 at 10:50 pm

I don't lump teachers union with fire unions. Structure and benefits different. Fire is illogical and irresponsible. Teacher's benefits are not as extreme, but makes the mistake of not breaking free of 'tenure'. As long as the good ones are willing to sacrifice their own standards to protect the bad ones, the mess continues, and all lose. Tenure is the only way to stand with integrity.


If you were a member and logged in you could track comments from this story.

Post a comment

Posting an item on Town Square is simple and requires no registration. Just complete this form and hit "submit" and your topic will appear online. Please be respectful and truthful in your postings so Town Square will continue to be a thoughtful gathering place for sharing community information and opinion. All postings are subject to our TERMS OF USE, and may be deleted if deemed inappropriate by our staff.

We prefer that you use your real name, but you may use any "member" name you wish.

Name: *

Select your neighborhood or school community: *

Comment: *

Verification code: *
Enter the verification code exactly as shown, using capital and lowercase letters, in the multi-colored box.

*Required Fields

and my friend here will have the kibble."
By Tom Cushing | 12 comments | 1,297 views

Sentinels of Freedom Newsletter
By Roz Rogoff | 0 comments | 787 views

Understanding Early Decision in College Admissions
By Elizabeth LaScala | 0 comments | 253 views

When those covering the news become the news
By Gina Channell-Allen | 0 comments | 246 views