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on Sep 28, 2012
Hmmmmmm, I wouldn't exactly expect a warm welcome to these returning "workers" after some of the the obscene behavior, nasty attitude, graffiti and debris left behind after their two year occupation.
Good luck with those tips guys, you certainly earned EVERY penny you have coming to you.
What kind of world do we live in where occupiers like these aren't in prison? Don't they know that servants are not supposed to bite the hands of their masters? They should be grateful to serve such prestigious masters as the club members, even if it isn't accompanied by a fair living wage. They've renounced their great privilege to serve. I'll not be giving my traditional 5% food and drink tips to these criminals, that's for sure.
I remember my friend's last outing of any kind (deceased) was struggling to get from car to front door. These goons at and under the entrance, pounding their pans & noisemakers, blocking us, and in general acting like asses, as we tried to enter and hold the heavy front doors ! ! ! I'll NEVER forget them or that Thanksgiving ! ! ! Unions turn people into animals. They've earned all the hatred they receive.
Contrary to what all these Union people think I as a member of Castlewood am not a rich person and was doing what I could to hold on to my membership. Finally this month I decided that I could no longer afford the dues and turned in my membership. I had mixed feelings about it as I had enjoyed my many years there. Now after hearing this news about the former employees returning I know I made the right decision. It is not going to be pretty there having employees who were insulting the members and causing problems for two years. I will tell you this is if I still were a member there I would not be ordering any food or drinks that's for sure and I know a lot of other members will feel the same way. I think a lot of members are going to end up leaving Castlewood for the very same reasons.
Mittens/ Nurse Shark, etc. rides the PW threads again today in the form of "Chad" - the latest boring satirical personna.
As for the returning CCC employees. It's too bad that their union did not allow them a vote to accept or reject the CCC offers. This happens in the world of organized labor.
My theory: The union simply could not allow them to accept the CCC offers and go back to work, as it would establish precedence and undermine similar future contract negotiations with much larger hospitality establishments in the East Bay. Just my theory.
Put up a closed sign and tell that wtf judge to take a flying leap. Good old judges that shouldn't have jobs.
As members of CCC, we are very disappointed the union servers have to come back to work here. We have so enjoyed the staff that replaced the union; pleasant, efficient. Unfortunately, we automatically pay a 15% tip for good or bad service as it's included in the bill.
Most members did NOT want the union back. Now, they are forced to accept back the workers, who were insulting them for over two years. And than trust these people with serving your food. Prepare yourself for receiving a food containing saliva, nose dropping and may be even worse.
HAHAHA!!! The jokes on you Tea Party memebers! Sorry you couldn't get the slave labor you wanted. I mean God forbid a worker have a livable wage. You sound like a bunch of conservative cry babies
Justice! If Castlewood would have agreed to pay these people a fair wage 2 years ago..this whole thing never would have happened. And to CCC members like Chad who refer to these workers as "servants"....all I can say is....what goes around, comes around. Perhaps now CCC members will actually sit back and evaluate..."hmmm, is it really right than these people earn less in a month than I pay for my set of golf clubs?" However, maybe I'm just too optimistic that this could be a wake-up call for CCC members. But what is a wake-up call is this is a victory for the 47%!!!! Unlike the wait staff/servers in the Romney video that had to just quietly listen while Romney told a roomful of people that they don't matter -these workers at CCC have said "we're not going to take it anymore." And I applaud these workers for doing so.
I am pretty liberal and I think this whole thing is ridiculous.
I wish I could cry and throw a hissy fit every time my employer changes my benefit plan and I have to pay more for my benefits. Yes, one year our benefits went up by $5000 per year.
Or I could do the same every time my employer changes the review structure/raise structure and I don't get a raise. Do I have a choice? Yes, I can LEAVE And FIND A NEW JOB. I can't find another job? Too bad, then I have to suck it up and appreciate the one I have.
Get over it.
I think CCC should declare they can't stay in business and close up shop. Wait a year and reopen under a different name/management without the unions. (Don't know if they can do this.... sure there are some way the unions would be able to file a complaint.)
The striking workers were pretty angry and hostile. Where are the employers/members rights to have a non-hostile environment?
Amazon shows just how ungrateful and demanding these union members are. The cost of golf clubs have nothing to do with it. After you become a member you can make comparisons. Right now, you can compare your earnings and tasks with other servers in similar, neighboring facilities.
I've never been entitled to equal goodies as the owners who employed me....we're called 'employees'.. owners who pay employees are called employers. They rarely net equal pay.
Amazon, since you don't 'get it', I'd say you should go start your own club, moneybags.
Please don't try and blame the union on your reasoning for leaving CCC.
You can thank the Board Members for the assessment that is destined to take more members than the Black Plague did in Europe.
Way to "cut and run" Dave...you followed Clouser into the abyss...
I have more respect for the workers who stood their ground. At the first sign of trouble you bail like a little girl. I am guessing when you did play at CCC, it was from the red tees...
Don't worry about the 5% you add...I am sure the mandated 15% will work for servants. Check that, the 15% you have to give AND the $8,500 assessment for the lockout!
Way to put your future in the hands of a Village Idiot like Clouser...he's not quite as smug as he use to be...being a Club President means more than getting a pretend gavel and having your unshaven picture on the wall.
Maybe next time CCC will understand that there are employment laws that apply to even private organizations---a fact that I guess the board and most members did not realize...well they know now...to the tune of $8,500 each.
Hey Remembering - I don't need to start my own club. Wake up...there's a huge "club" out there (envision the 47% and make it BIGGER!) that are tired of you guys with your arrogant attitudes where you treat people like "servants." So go ahead- continue your Marie Antionette attitude of " let them eat cake" Oh, sorry-that was a reference that implies that you CCC guys would have an understanding of the world beyond the CCC, and Pleasanton city borders. My bad.
Time to move forward.
I can't believe I will have to suject myself to these dispicable unionized mongrels when I play golf. The mere thought of having to interact with these uncivilized servants is horrifying. I long for the day when the lower classes knew their place in society.
For now I will soldier on and avert my eyes when one of them gets too close.
Whoa is me.........whoa is me.
The union is going to be defeated one way or another. They deserve nothing ! The reason they think they have won is because they are stupid. Castlewood people will ignore the restaurant and eat in downtown Pleasanton. That is where some of the union Castlewood employees currently work and for less money without benefits.
Civility left the building once Clauser locked them out...I feel your pain!
"Malcolm", It appears you are a typical internet troll who cannot have a discussion on a board without insulting someone and NOT reading what that person said.
I NEVER said I left because of the Union. I said I left because I could not afford it anymore (like a lot of other members) and the description all all members being rich tea party people was incorrect.
I said that after I heard the news of returning I knew I made the right decision. Not because I was upset about the employees coming back, but that it would mean dues were going to get higher whether it be for increased benefits or having to pay an assessment for all the back wages. I already could not afford the current dues. So why don't you learn to read a post before you go spouting off and insulting someone?
Oh and your statement about playing the red tees (another unprovoked ridiculous statement) - I would be happy to settle this on the golf course with you at whatever amount you would like. I'm pretty sure as a former high school and college (with golf scholarship) player who currently carries a 2 handicap that I won't have a problem.
I did a bit of Googling to familiarize myself with the source of this conflict.
It wasn't hard to find:
"For more than 30 years, the Castlewood Country Club has had mostly positive labor relations with its 60 or so food service workers, who are members of UNITE-HERE Local 2850. Workers at the country club had always been paid decent wages and had decent healthcare. The club's members could afford to do it. A Castlewood membership costs a one-time fee of $25,000, plus a $630 "gold membership" monthly fee to stay in the club.
After the last contract was negotiated with workers, Jim Clouser was appointed to lead the club's board of directors. “It was clear from the beginning that he was intent on taking on the union simply because was ideologically opposed to unions,“ says country club member Larry Ferderber.
In late 2009, the Country Club made an offer to its workers that would raise their out-of-pocket healthcare costs to nearly $637 a month—about 50 percent of an average club worker's income. Union members made a counter offer that would have saved the country club money over the long run. The country club rejected the offer, and workers were locked out on February 25, 2010.
Many suspected that the country club was not negotiating in good faith and management's real goal was to provoke a lockout so they could bust and severely weaken the union."
The conflict, in other words, came from Jim Clouser and the Board of Directors, who wanted to show the workers who was "boss".
I can understand why those who are ideologically opposed to unions are furious over this result: the workers, instead of breaking and scattering as their would-be masters intended, retained their solidarity and fought through to victory. Two long years of struggle, not knowing the result--now that's courage!
I salute the workers of Local 2850 who refused to give up and give in. Mission accomplished.
Sounds like a lose, lose deal all the way around.
It's like the replacemet refs in the NFL. I personally thought the scab refs did an excellent job. And there you have it. Compare the unionized refs to the scab refs, and obviously the scab refs did a better job. Because, you see, union workers are fat and lazy. They don't think they have to respond to any standards. Besides, anytime there are more injuries, blown calls, and delays on the field the better it is for everyone. Unions are bringing this country down.
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Daniel Bradford: a guy who uses his real name because he doesn't think it's honest to hide behind an Internet pseudonym.
Real men use their own names.
Real men and women protect ourselves and our families from crazy loons that troll websites. That's why we live behind the gates.
Well, thanks to "big Jim" that cost just got a little more expensive...
Read my post again and see where there is a mention of "Tea Party"...I tend to stay on task and leave irrelevant things out of my posts...
I'd tell you to follow the direction of your own post back to me "regarding reading the post" but that would be redundant.
Your anger needs to be sent toward the board of the club to which you used to belong...I know your hurting from losing the initial investment, there are several families in your same situation.
Nice handicap by the way, however the guys I play with prefer to use ones "index" as the measure, however, maybe in your day a handicap was the preferred...kind of like the Dewey Decimal System.
Dave, what none of any of the union workers seem to understand. THEY drive up the cost of 'doing business' and 'the cost of government causing increased taxes. Members leave clubs, taxpayers move
. In either case, fewer workers are needed ! ! ! !
Posted by Chad, a resident of the Ruby Hill neighborhood, 1 hour ago
Real men and women protect ourselves and our families from crazy loons that troll websites. That's why we live behind the gates.
But then your nutty right-wing friends at the country club...so the problem goes on.
Face it, One Percenters: you got owned by those manual laborers who refused to run when you stamped your pedicured little feet. They stuck together for two years and beat you.
Now all you have are ad hominem insults and your impotent (emphasis on the word impotent) rage.
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