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First of city's major affordable housing projects goes to council tonight for final OK

Original post made on Apr 17, 2012

The Pleasanton City Council will vote tonight on bids by BRE Properties to build high density apartment buildings with 498 units in Hacienda Business Park.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 7:56 AM

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Posted by Mike
a resident of Birdland
on Apr 17, 2012 at 8:20 am

The City of Pleasanton should counter sue Urban Habitat, (and the local residents, Pleasanton for a Caring Community, who brought them here) to cover the cost of infrastructure needs, like schools, that this housing will require.

"the fees expected to cover the city's cost for electricity and payment processing at each of the charging stations."

That's government bureaucracy for you, charge people for the cost of charging people.

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Posted by slim shady
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 17, 2012 at 8:31 am

Random, related observations:
Wonder if any of those local income folks will be purchasing electric vehicles to take advantage of that subsidized charging rate? All it takes is 28 years to break even for a Volt, assuming it lasts that long, so it must be a good investment, even for folks not green-guilt ridden.
A better bet would be for the new low income residents to take their deep fat fryers to the nearest charging station and plug them in......$1 an hour for fried chicken is cheaper than home cooking. Maybe this will start some roadside food businesses that can compete with food trucks---until they are regulated out of business. God, what a great country.......

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Posted by Jamie
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 17, 2012 at 8:41 am

A very sad time for Pleasanton. And people just keep electing left-wing nut jobs.

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Posted by Cry me a river
a resident of Ruby Hill
on Apr 17, 2012 at 8:57 am

The elitist tear river has begun.

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Posted by Anon
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 17, 2012 at 9:52 am

Boy, pretty racist of you, Slim.

You know there is FAR MORE poor white trash in this country that can qualify for low-income housing than say black people...

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Posted by Disgusted
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 17, 2012 at 11:59 am

Problems as I see it (in no particular order):
- congestion
- crime
- overcrowded schools (good thing my kids will be out in 2 years)
- declining property values
Bad enough we've had a rash of tire slashings and vehicle burglaries lately.
Bring on more!!

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Posted by Sam
a resident of Oak Hill
on Apr 17, 2012 at 12:55 pm

I think that a lot of people here are relying on distorted stereotypes of what people who have less net worth or live in a lot of apartment complexes are like. Our kids go to Lydiksen Elementary, and I know a few parents who rent and live in apartment complexes in Pleasanton. As a group, they are every bit as intelligent, articulate, well educated, and mature as other parents (and they are definitely a lot more mature than most homeowners posting on this thread). As a group, their children are as bright and perform as well as other children in the class. If there is a correlation between school performance and whether the children live in a house or an apartment, it isn't apparent to me.

What, then, distinguishes many of the parents who rent from those who own houses? As far as I can tell, two main factors: (1) the parents who rent tend to be younger, and thus have not had many years to amass a large net worth in order to buy a house. (2) many of the parents who rent are in the "arts" or in fields which, while they may require a lot of talent and education, are not fields which offer a large amount of financial compensation.

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Posted by Lahommed
a resident of Dublin
on Apr 17, 2012 at 2:24 pm

Lahommed is a registered user.

Big Mistake! Leave well enough alone......! Simply Do not need anymore Apartments in Pleasanton,Dublin and Livermore!

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Posted by slim shady
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 17, 2012 at 3:37 pm

Sam, how many of those apartment dwellers are paying property taxes towards your local school? I'm glad their kids are doing well in school. It's not their fault their parents are getting a free (or reduced fee) ride.

Anon-what was racist? Who said anything about black people (other than you?)

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Posted by Tim
a resident of Birdland
on Apr 17, 2012 at 7:33 pm

So we can block the development of 52 homes (and the largest land grant ever for a Pleasanton public park) but there's nothing we can do about thousands of low income, subsidized housing units? More resources given to the few at the expense of the many. Just like Wall Street bailouts but with different beneficiaries.

When I couldn't afford a home in Pleasanton I lived somewhere else. After patiently waiting and saving (versus using my home as an ATM)I was able to move here.

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Posted by Sybil
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 17, 2012 at 8:40 pm

Tim, your story is typical of conscientious, hard working residents of this city that learned early in life that what you earn means more than what is handed to you. It takes some effort to attain what you want and need versus the influx we are about to endure of entitled, undeserving masses that cannot save enough to earn a residence in our city. The low income housing will soon turn to the north Pleasanton ghetto, where those who were granted a subsidized residence will treat it like a section 8 rental and trash it in no tIme and move on. So much for the pride of ownership.

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Posted by Chicken Little
a resident of Birdland
on Apr 17, 2012 at 8:42 pm

Yeah, I'm with Tim. Let's keep the ethnic riff-raff out of our city. After all, that's why we came here.

I became part of the new rich, too, Tim. And now I too, like you, am a nouveau riche dumb-cluck surrounded by other nouveau riche dumb-clucks in dumb-cluck Birdland who are too stupid to realize how stupid I sound.

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Posted by sybil
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 18, 2012 at 8:23 am

A fowl missive by our local poultry lover. chicken legs, you have obvious bought into obamas class envy montra. Guess you're more of an albatross than a chicken, which may make you safe our being cooked by our new influx of refugees.
If you hate rich homeowners so much, start your protest in the Berkeley Hills or's closer to your occupy encampment.

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Posted by Chicken Little
a resident of Birdland
on Apr 18, 2012 at 10:14 am

I've got nothing against rich homeowners. If I have a problem it is the dumb-cluck, nouveau riche whose buying power far outstrips their intellectual prowess.

Beware of all refugees. After being violently oppressed, terrified, and tortured in their home countries, they have the unmitigated gall to come here, pass the inspection process, move into my neighborhood, and start eating my neighbors and our pets. Please don't call me ignorant. I'm a very smart fellow. I own a BIG house and I drive a BIG SUV. Cluck-cluck, gobble-gobble.

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Posted by Barb
a resident of Mohr Park
on Oct 23, 2012 at 10:00 pm

Builsing low income affordable apartments in the Hacienda Business Park is a TERRIBLE idea!! The city council & mayor need to rethink this!! Anyone know that building an affordable apartment building will increase crime because it will attract the wrong people!!

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