Posted by Brian, a resident of the Vineyard Avenue neighborhood, on Apr 11, 2012 at 5:39 pm
I'm an avid runner and cyclist. I love love love love our trails.
But really, why are we spending on this now? Schools need funds, road's need repairs, and it feels like we're constantly bombarded with gloom and doom threads on police and fire support and anything else polititions deem essential. Yet a trail extension is a priority?
It won't create jobs, it won't keep us safe, it won't invest in something that generates further revenue like education. What a waste! The polititions who showed should be embarassed! Look at all the redesigns and further studies that had to be done just to get it funded!
Posted by Anonymous, a member of the Alisal Elementary School community, on Apr 12, 2012 at 9:27 am
Because this is transportation and parks money, if it weren't spent on this project it would not have been able to be spent on police or schools; it would have just gone to other transportation and parks projects. This is a good way to spend a relatively small amount of money for the value being added to the communities.
Posted by Mike Sedlak, a resident of the Mission Park neighborhood, on Apr 12, 2012 at 9:29 am
You correctly identified the benefits this trail connection provides to the Communities of Pleasanton & Dublin, and in a bigger picture, the Tri-Valley as a whole.
The project started in 1992. There were permits and right-a-ways that needed to be agreed upon; at any time the project could have been terminated by any one of a dozen or so participating agencies.
As a Priority, it was "ranked" in order of importance (on paper) to insure that the connection would be completed at some time in the future.
It provides access to Education and Police and Commerce. On the Dublin side, it exits at Dublin City Hall and the Dublin City Library where students from both Cities can further their education.
And it's in a safe location. The Dublin City Police Department is at the Dublin trail head.
I invite you to a City of Pleasanton Bicycle, Pedestrian and Trails Committee meeting. The committee is tasked to insure that future trail connections serve all of our residents who are avid runners and cyclists. Just like yourself.
Look forward meeting you there. There are a number of challenges we face making sure trail connections in the Vineyard Corridor (on your side of Pleasanton) are identified for future generations. We'd value your input.
Posted by Brian, a resident of the Vineyard Avenue neighborhood, on Apr 12, 2012 at 12:00 pm
Annonymous, $2.4M is not small by anyone's definition. Point is that you can't look at it as park's and recreation money. It's our money. They don't have to spend it on another project. They don't have to spend it at all.
Mike, I guess we think differently. I'm guessing a healthy percentage of the $ was spent by permits, planning and the "dozen or so" participating agencies. Long range plans are nice ... but clearly they gather momentum that leads to $ spent at unjustified rates. I know the trail disconnects well, but they hardly justify spending at even a fraction of this level. The committee should go buy a bucket of paint, paint a bike lane under the BART and call it a day.
Posted by Just_Spend_it_all, a member of the Foothill High School community, on Apr 12, 2012 at 3:56 pm
I agree with Brian. While I am all for community projects, I am against the concept that if we don't spend it we lose it. I say we graciously thank the federal government for the money but say no. Somebody must start this. I guess it was appropriate that Congressman Jerry McNerney was on hand with a shovel to help dig us deeper into debt. For too long we have allowed politicians like McNerney to spend us into the pockets of our grandchildren. Let's not make this a discussion of if it’s a nice to have but as a discussion of what is critically needed. We need our officials to stop trying to placate us with "feel good" projects and start being fiscally responsible.
Posted by Candyce Roberts, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 13, 2012 at 8:35 am
I think we should call this The Bureaucratic Boondoggle Trail. No one in their right mind would call 2.4 million tax payer dollars a "small" amount of money. This waste of our money is a prophetic look at what Obamacare has in store for those who will not stand up and say "NOPE" to rampant government fraud and abuse.
Posted by Curious, a resident of the Del Prado neighborhood, on Apr 13, 2012 at 11:37 am
I'm dissappointed in all the naysayers on this thread crying foul about spending on this project. The Pleasanton Trails Committee has been working for many years coordinating with an alphabet soup of different agencies to see this trail connection built. Through tireless volunterr hours, the Trails Committee and its partners have succeeded and are moving forward. Everyone one of the folks commenting here had multiple opportunties to speak up at monthly Trails Committee meetings, City Council meetings, and Parks & Rec meetings. If you did not like how the funds were going to be spent, you had ample opportunities to say something.
Sure, we can second guess the need to spend $2.4MM on a trail connection. We can second guess almost any infrastructure improvement from new signal lights on Bernal to metering lights on 680. One person's improvement is another person's nightmare. We all have a say in how our tax funds are spent. If you do not like the direction of things, get out and vote. Also, don't just spend your time complaining on these boards, how about volunteering to be on the one of the city committees like the Bike, Pedestrian, and Trails Committee.
The new trail connection will allow for walkers, skaters, cyclists, and bike commuters to travel on a car free paved trail from Pleasanton to the edge of the Carquinez straits in Martinez. The trail will provide increased recreation opportunities for Pleasanton and Tri-Vally residents. The Iron Horse Trail is a crown jewel for East Bay residents not only providing recreation, but also improving our property values by making those communities served by the IRT desirable places to live.
Posted by Otto Hound, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Apr 13, 2012 at 11:51 am
I don't like walkers, skaters, cyclists or bike commuters. Their all part of the United Nations totalitarian effort to impose global warming myth on us. I don't fall for that nonsense. Second, I don't like 3-paragraph posts filled with irrelevant minutiae. Whatever.
Posted by plain Jan, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Apr 13, 2012 at 12:08 pm
Okay, let's delete the trail idea and watch the horror of your grandchildren get clipped by a motorist testing while driving. For me, I appreciate seeing my tax dollars at work and.especially towards a wholesome project that keeps our children safe. Right-wing nuts. Would prefer more office space over parks and open space. The reason weneed choose to pay more taxes by living in Pleasanton is because of the trails, parks, aquatics, and arts. Money left in a shoe-box doesn't work for most.
Posted by Otto Hound, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Apr 13, 2012 at 1:38 pm
The real bullies are the guys in spandex tights thinking they can hog my road. I shall not be intimidated by the United Nations totalitarians who have conspired with the 78-81 Communists in the Democrat Party to install low income housing and bike trails in my community. Other than that, I have no comment either way. Taxed. Enough. Already. And now they want us to pay for bike trails? See all of you Saturday for the event of the century.
Posted by M. Romney, a resident of another community, on Apr 13, 2012 at 2:56 pm
Stacey, you've said you have nothing to say on this topic, so it's clear that you're just here to call names and stir up trouble. In fact, by popping up to call someone a bully, you're clearly trying to create friction and drama on this forum. Please take a moment to reflect on your behavior on this site. Thank you.
Posted by Bob, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 14, 2012 at 9:23 am
Stacey, you've got a real, and personal, problem. To you, anyone who speaks their mind is a bully, when you don't agree with what they said. As noted by another poster, you started off with "I have no comment either way on this subject.", and then of course, proceeded to make comments and started name calling. My suggestion to you is to fully understand the correct meaning and usage of your words before speaking.
Posted by Stacey, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Apr 14, 2012 at 11:04 am Stacey is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
You're right that I got a problem but you're wrong that it is towards just anyone who disagrees with me. It's towards a specific writing tactic employed by either one or a few anonymous posters.
That anonymous poster has been harassing me and a few others here for a long time and I'm done with being nice enough to not call it for what it is. It's bullying. They didn't like that I called out their propaganda as irrelevant minutiae in another thread, even though they have called me all sorts of names, said I have no moral compass, and other sh*t that has little to do with the topic. So they come here on a thread I didn't participate in, posted some sh*t about not liking bicyclists and global warming as a myth, and used my exact words from the other thread, knowing full well that doing so plants the seed that somehow I hold those same positions on those subjects. And that's not the first time they've done this.
It's part of that poster's site-wide attempt to bully me into not posting on this site by the constant misrepresentation and lies about me. But guess what, Bob, the bullying works because people like you then think I call just anyone who doesn't agree with me a bully. You unwittingly support the bully.
If you got a problem with my posts, hit the "Report Objectionable Content" link. Thank you.
Posted by M. Romney, a resident of another community, on Apr 14, 2012 at 11:15 am
Back to the accusations, I see, Stacey. I don't mind that you're taking shots at me now, it fits in with Bob's observation well enough and speaks for itself, but it's a wonder you haven't been banned by now. Can't you get your daily doses of drama any other way and let cooler heads discuss the issues of our town? Or if not, how about a little respect and civility for once?
Posted by Otto Hound, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Apr 14, 2012 at 12:15 pm
I'm not for banning anyone. But I am for impeaching all the 80 or so Communist Party members that our T.E.A. Party's Allen West has identified as being Democrat Party representatives in Congress. We need to pressure Congress to start up a Loyalty Commission where all the Communists are made to admit their disloyalties.
I do get irritated by Stacey's posts. It always ends up being about Stacy and not the issues of the day. Drawing attention to herself like she always does is kind of a distraction. Ban Kathleen? I always thought Kathleen and Stacy were the same person.
Posted by Stacey, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Apr 14, 2012 at 2:12 pm Stacey is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
Another misrepresentation. You know very well that I was referring to this tripe: "I do get irritated by Stacey's posts. It always ends up being about Stacy and not the issues of the day. Drawing attention to herself like she always does is kind of a distraction. Ban Kathleen? I always thought Kathleen and Stacy were the same person."
I'm very sorry for anyone who believes such tripe.
Posted by John Turbinger, a resident of the Rosewood neighborhood, on Apr 14, 2012 at 2:26 pm
I'm not certain where Otto Hound is coming from. Going from park benches to global warming to communists in government seems pretty far afield. However, I usually feel that to be the case with the tea baggie heads who dominate these posts.
I do agree that Stacey and Kathleen both tend to fill up a lot of space with chest thumping self righteousness and indignation when others disagree with them. Disagreement is not the same as "attack," and it takes some intellectual maturity to be able to distinguish one from the other. I also find it almost amusing that Stacey and Kathleen are both so quick to cast names at others while also referring to the need for civility in discourse.
Posted by M. Romney, a resident of another community, on Apr 14, 2012 at 3:01 pm
How is Otto's post "tripe?" Are you saying he doesn't really find your posts irritating? I don't find it that hard to believe. Or is it that your posts tend to be about you? Hard to deny when you pop up on threads you "have no opinions on" just to start drama. No, there's no tripe here.
Posted by Zimmerman, a resident of the Ruby Hill neighborhood, on Apr 14, 2012 at 4:20 pm
Why dont you all back offa Stacey? So she chased a suspected bully into this thread and provoked people and then defended herself. To my way of thinking thats justifiable self defense and Stacey is obviously the victim here. Stand Your Ground, Stacey, Stand Your Ground.
Posted by Stacey, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Apr 15, 2012 at 3:12 pm Stacey is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
"What better hobby to have than to hate on others?"
As I wrote to you on the other thread, if you were truly sincere in that sentiment, you'd support the idea that people should be required to register to post and you'd take concrete steps towards improving the tone of discussion on this site rather than resorting to bullying.