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Here's why Obama wants to avoid campaigning on his performance...

Original post made by Hold Obama Accountable, Amador Estates, on Jan 27, 2012

So check these before and after stats...
Source > Web Link

Item / Before Obama Took Office / Now / Percentage Change

No. of Unemployed > 12.0 million > 13.1 million > +9%

Long Term Unemployed > 2.7 million > 5.6 million > +107%

Unemployment rate > 7.8% > 8.5% > +9%

High Unemployment States > 22 > 43 > +95%

Misery Index > 7.83 > 11.46 > +46%

Price of Gas > $1.85 > $3.39 > +89%

Typical Monthly Family Food Cost > $974 > $1,013 > +4%

Median Value of Single-Family Home > $196,600 > $169,100 > -14%

Rate of Mortgage Delinquencies > 6.62% > 10.23% > +55%

U.S. National Debt > $10.6 trillion > $15.2 trillion > +43%


(For more info, see footnotes from chart > Web Link


For those who do not conclude that America cannot survive another Obama term, I submit that you are not paying attention. Help save this once great country by defeating ALL democrats...ALL of them ... and all of the RINO's too!!!

The ONLY solution for America is conservatism.

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Posted by Sam
a resident of Oak Hill
on Jan 27, 2012 at 12:58 pm

"Help save this once great country by defeating ALL democrats...ALL of them."

Hey, I've got a simple question: If the Republicans were doing such a great job of running the country before, how did all these Democrats ever get elected in the first place?


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Posted by Bill
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 27, 2012 at 1:25 pm

As George Carlin said - think about how stupid the average person is, then realize that half the population is more stupid then this.

Just saying you get what you vote for :-)



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Posted by Monique
a resident of Avila
on Jan 27, 2012 at 1:27 pm

Yeah, remember the good old days at the end of the Bush administration when we were all paying $1.85 per gallon? And what about this runaway inflation -- 4% over three years? And, hey, I thought the debt was 62 trillion or something like that? And, finally, why isn't lying about and launching an unjust war included on the list, or shooting/not shooting Bin Laden, or nat'l health care, or ... oh, forget it. I see, this is just a dimwitted ideologue posting select numbers for his lost cause. Face it, dimwit, Obama has been a steady albeit unspectacular president thus far, and he rarely makes a mistake. I look forward to his next term in the Oval Office.


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Posted by Dan
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jan 27, 2012 at 4:28 pm

Let's see:

"Repubes", "stupid", "dimwitted ideologue"...and nary a word on the numbers.

Why is it that you attack the person instead of discuss the data? Those metrics should piss you off but instead, you insist on playing the blame game. This situation was created and maintained by BOTH parties, and yet here you are, blaming Bush...again. Good God you all sound like children.

Indeed

Dan


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Posted by No Obama
a resident of Downtown
on Jan 27, 2012 at 5:57 pm

Sadly I was duped and voted for this failure. I have been voting for the last 40 years and by far the worst president in memory both by deeds and actions. He knows he has been a failure but does not want to admit that we would be better off with someone else hence the scorched earth policy to do anything to stay in office. I honestly cannot think of one positive thing he has accomplished, not one thing and that is very sad to say he has been in office this long and has failed at everything except constantly campaigning and being the most divisive figure in US political history.


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Posted by Hmmm...
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 27, 2012 at 6:10 pm

Let's see.....While GW Bush was Pres, Pelosi ran Congress during '07-'08. Then......'09 -'10,Pelosi, Obama, Reid ran Washington with 100% Dem agenda while totally ignoring the economy, singularly focused on creating an health care bill, that went on, added on, and on into a monsterous costly creation. Fiddling, fiddling, fiddling,all the while.........more jobs, jobs, jobs, were lost, lost, lost, as the economy worsened.


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Posted by Monique
a resident of Avila
on Jan 27, 2012 at 6:34 pm

According to NBC/WallStreetJournal poll:

In November, Romney was rated somewhat or very negatively by 22 percent of independents.

In December, Romney was rated somewhat or very negatively by 29 percent of independents.

And in the new poll, Romney was rated somewhat or very negatively by 42 percent of independents — 20 points higher than two months ago.

Also: In November, Romney was beating Obama 47-34 among those voters. Now the numbers are upside down: Obama is beating Romney 44-36.

(A recent Post/ABC News poll also found Romney's negative rating among independent had jumped to 51 percent.)

Guess it must be because indies have forgotten about all the 1.85 per gallon fill-ups they enjoyed under the Bush administration.


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Posted by Dan
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jan 27, 2012 at 7:54 pm

Monique,

You wants polls?Web Link

There you go.

Dan


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Posted by Monique
a resident of Avila
on Jan 27, 2012 at 8:59 pm

Yep, the ol' reliable realclearpol and its reliance upon the highly discredited Rasmussen.

Fact is, Obama is looking pretty strong, considering that many of the 'disapproves' are Dems who will rally to support him come fall.

But all told, I'm very impressed with Dan's ability to comment on the more nuanced numbers supplied by NBC/WSJ and ABC. Tomorrow we'll have to try him out on tinker toys.


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Posted by Dan
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jan 27, 2012 at 9:15 pm

Lol!

Yes Monique, and we can work on your reading and comprehension skills after my play time.

Shoot the messenger babe, shoot the messenger. Let's not let those facts get in the way of your little narrative, sweetie.

Here let me save you the inevitable cliche: It's BUSH'S fault!

So predictable...and boorish.

Dan


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Posted by Sam
a resident of Oak Hill
on Jan 28, 2012 at 12:48 am

"The ONLY solution for America is conservatism"

Here's an interesting SF chronicle story on a psychology study reporting on a link between social conservatism and intelligence Web Link


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Posted by GX
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 28, 2012 at 6:42 am

Monique - what is the source of the poll you reference?

It is clear that Obama supporters are most concerned about Romney. These debates and focus on Romney are interestig given we all know CA is going to Obama.

Polls like the following show they should be concerned:

Web Link


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Posted by Hold Obama Accountable
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jan 28, 2012 at 8:32 am

Here's another data point regarding Obama's record...

Those on Food Stamps in Jan. '09 = 32 million

Those on Food Stamps in Oct. '11 = 46.2 million

That is a 44% increase.

Source (FDA) = Web Link

Welcome to Obama's America.

Soon, Obama's America will be looking a lot like Zimbabwe at this rate. Or North Korea or Venezuela. How's this "Hope & Change" working out for you...who voted for this Marxist.


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Posted by Sam
a resident of Oak Hill
on Jan 28, 2012 at 8:36 am

Dan said: "Poor poor Sam...Just like some of your friends here, you cannot debate the stats as posted by HOA so you have to go on ad hominem attacks on conservatives."

Why, Dan, I'm confused. Where's the "ad hominem" attack? I simply posted an interesting SF Chronicle story reporting on a psychology study performed by professional researchers. If you don't like the conclusions that the researchers arrived at, then you really need to direct your criticisms at them. I wasn't a co-author of their paper.


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Posted by GX
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 28, 2012 at 8:54 am

As most can tell, I'm not a fan of Obama and will be one of the many independents who will not be voting for him this year (depending on the Republican choice).

However, I think it is important that we be intellectually honest with many of the stats being thrown around. Obama is contending with a recession/depression that was not of his making. Many of the negative trends were cast prior to him taking office. Bush's policies did not help and the Fed's monetary/interest policies set the stage for this crisis.

This being said, I don't believe Obama's policies are as constructive as they could have been and more importantly aren't setting us up for future economic vitality. Of course, things are improving. Why wouldn't it be getting better given the goverment as spent an extra $5 Trillion (deficit spending these past 3 years)?

The key question is whether/not we will be better off in the future with having spent this extra money. Did we increase our production/wealth creation capacity? Are we in a better position to pay down our debts?

No, and that is why our standard of living will continue to decline. Obama didn't help and that is why I'm looking for a new leader. I will continue to look and vote differently until we get one who will speak to us honestly and lead us through the tough choices that are coming.


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Posted by Dan
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jan 28, 2012 at 10:22 am

GX,

Bush did it!

That about sums up Obamas policies.

We have spent trillions of $ and nobody can point to a single metric that it has significantly helped.

As an anecdote, my companies headquarters is located in the DC area and I go back every month to work for a week. In my lifetime of living in the bay area I have NEVER seen the amount of construction projects as I have seen in the surrounding DC areas. It seems that every freeway is being expanded and the amount of building construction is astounding.

I used to be against public and equitable funding of candidates for political office but I have to say I'm coming around to it. Though I blame the politician for the votes he makes, we have got to insulate that same politician from his conflict of interest between voting for his citizen constituents or for his financial backers. The problem is: how do you do it?

I also think term limits at the federal level would help to so that we don't get the political dynasties that exist today but that is a topic for another day.

Dan


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Posted by Monique
a resident of Avila
on Jan 28, 2012 at 10:40 am

Once Dan gets beyond his element of name-calling, his inability to write a coherent sentence presents itself. One wonders about a company that would continue to employ someone who is so barely literate. And reasoning power? Well, it reflects his inability to write. He here says:

"As an anecdote, my companies[sic] headquarters is[sic] located in the DC area and I go back every month to work for a week. [Otherwise, I'm hanging out doing nothing but spewing venom on these threads.] In my lifetime of living [sic] in the bay area I have NEVER seen the amount of construction projects as I have seen in the surrounding DC areas. It seems that every freeway is being expanded and the amount of building construction is astounding."

To which I say, "Wow, it's about time! Wash DC has needed basic infrastructure work done for decades. Glad our president is leading the way toward productive work that improves our roads, bridges, and office buildings." Guess Dan would rather the money be spent giving him tax breaks to support a lifestyle that has him working for a private company on only one week of work per month. (Lots of private sector frugality there, I bet -- the plane fare and all to shuttle a barely literate ignoramus from one coast to the other.) And we wonder why so many private businesses go belly up?


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Posted by Dan
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jan 28, 2012 at 10:57 am

Monique,

Thanks for playing the online spelling and grammar cop.

I'll fix the ONE spelling and grammar mistake for you only: companies(').

Happy?

Are a union teacher?

And my company is quite happy with my performance I can assure you. Care to compare careers sweetie?

And no, I'd rather the money be spent on...mmmm...I don't know, maybe fixing the potholes on 680 between Sunol and Calaveras. That'd be a nice start.

Dan


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 28, 2012 at 12:40 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Sam,

I saw that article on that study too yesterday. What point were you trying to make in posting it? Where in this thread is social conservatism being discussed? It says:

"people with low IQs are attracted to the hierarchy and structure in socially conservative institutions"

In other words, socially conservative institutions have a social hierarchy and structure and people with low IQ feel attracted to social environments that have such hierarchy and structure. It doesn't say that holding conservative beliefs mean someone is of low IQ or that low IQ is the source of conservative beliefs, which the headline of the article would lead one to wrongly believe. It is very likely that where any institution with a particular social hierarchy and structure is to be found (cults?), people with low IQ will feel attracted to it. Perhaps such institutions are more frequently socially conservative, I couldn't say (not going to bother to read the study atm).

Additionally from the author of the study:
"Hodson also noted that the results should not be used broadly across all people of either political affiliation, saying: "There are multiple examples of very bright conservatives and not-so-bright liberals, and many examples of very principled conservatives and very intolerant liberals.""

For the record, I am not socially conservative.

BTW, one of the environmental conditions that affect IQ negatively is poor nutrition.


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Posted by Monique
a resident of Avila
on Jan 28, 2012 at 1:06 pm

The idiot who initiated this thread took a limited set of shamelessly biased stats and then concluded:

"The ONLY solution for America is conservatism."

The original dolt stated, further: "Help save this once great country by defeating ALL democrats...ALL of them ... and all of the RINO's too!!!"

Note the intolerance not only of the Dems but also any avowed Repub who fails to walk in lockstep with the party (RINO). (Typical low-IQ, Republican intolerance of diversity -- always seen as a threat to the dumb and ignorant.)

I think Sam's link was a perfect response. It linked a tendency for people with low IQs (e.g., HOA, Dan, GX, Steve, AnnaS) to support socially conservative institutions (e.g., the Republican Party). This is by no means a novel thesis. Barrington Moore was drawing such conclusions over 50 years ago. Political scientists routinely show voting data that has poorly educated (dumb and ignorant) rural populace voting Republican far more than, say, the college educated. Simply look at how the dumb states generally (with few exceptions) vote Red; and how the better educated states (with few exceptions) vote Blue. To wit: pops with high number of cows vote Republican; pops with high number of bookstores vote Dem. No news here, though Sam should be credited for illuminating some of the low IQ rubes who populate these threads.

BTW, I am not socially conservative.









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Posted by Sam
a resident of Oak Hill
on Jan 28, 2012 at 1:15 pm

Stacey said: "Sam, I saw that article on that study too yesterday. What point were you trying to make in posting it?"

Just thought it was an interesting study. No point. Just having a little fun.


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Posted by Hold Obama Accountable
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jan 28, 2012 at 1:48 pm

Dear Monique...You Genius,
Yes...you are RIGHT! My list above IS BIASED! The above are "biased" indicators of a civil society with an economic system based on free market, merit-based principles.

Those indicators were NOT biased toward a WELFARE economy, which apparently is your preference, as well as the Socialist Democrat Party.



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Posted by Monique
a resident of Avila
on Jan 28, 2012 at 1:58 pm

Nice! Like I say, Sam's link which shows high correlation between low IQ and social conservatism is quite apt.

A little education might prompt some awareness of how Adam Smith's 18th century idea of capitalism -- free market, merit-based -- has been long since discredited. But again, that would require some modicum of literacy which is sorely lacking from the rightwing dolts who populate these threads.

BTW, I'm not socially conservative. But I am an elitist who finds the urge to rub rightwing dolts' noses into their own ignorance irresistable.


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Posted by GX
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 28, 2012 at 2:24 pm

Monique - I do hope one day that you can distinguish the difference between social conservatism and fiscal conservatism. There is a big reason why I am not a Republican and that is because I don't subscribe to their social conservative ideas.

It is the social and environmental issues that often times push me to vote Democrat which I have probably done about 50% of the time. But it is currently the Democrats' lack of fiscal discipline and their being controlled by public employee unions that is driving me away.

I've found in life that I learn more from people if I don't rush to place them pre-defined categories. ;-)


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Posted by Monique
a resident of Avila
on Jan 28, 2012 at 2:33 pm

Loses every argument, now attempts to save face. This from GX whose fiscal conservatism prompts him to advocate that poor people pay a higher rate of taxes. Because the debt is 62 trillion! And a tsunami is coming! And he really is a liberal on social issues. No, really. REALLY!

I care about concepts and the arguments to which they are attached. I don't care about self-ascribed weasel words like 'compassionate conservative', 'fiscal conservative', 'supporter of fiscal responsibility', 'tax reformer' and other such hooey.


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Posted by GX
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 28, 2012 at 2:52 pm

Monique - you are simply amazing. First you incorrectly lump me into an incorrect category and then when I point out your mistake you distort it into a point that I'm trying to save face from losing a mythical argument.

What a wonderful fantasy world you must live in.

Pathetic.


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Posted by Monique
a resident of Avila
on Jan 28, 2012 at 3:19 pm

Like I say, concepts are what I value, not self-ascribed categories. So I was incorrect to lump you into a certain category? Which? Dishonest? Sleeze? Low IQ? Take your pick. I inferred these from the 'quality' of your 'argument', which shows a conspicuous inability to reason with concepts or mathematical symbols.


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Posted by GX
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 28, 2012 at 3:30 pm

Are you related to Phil? Maybe you went to the same school?

You must at least be coordinating when you both post on these various blogs because the time stamp patterns of the various postings are errily similar. ;-)


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Posted by Monique
a resident of Avila
on Jan 28, 2012 at 3:37 pm

Yes, verry errily similarrr....

Maybe someone a little smarter and better read can help GX (Arnold) and Dan (Steve) out here? No fo-paux inntendded.


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Posted by Dan
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jan 28, 2012 at 5:26 pm

I assure you sweetie, I am not Steve.

Did I make another spelling and/or grammar mistake? I mean, since you are the police of punctuation and all.

Gosh you are sooo much more intelligent than I...you must be a joy to be around.

/sarcasm

Dan


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Posted by Dan
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jan 28, 2012 at 5:35 pm

Stacey,

I have a clue why Sam posted that link: Because he has NOTHING!

Sam, Sweetie and genius have nothing but name-calling to give to any discussion. They talk a lot, but say very little.

For them its never dialog, just demagogue.

OT
Sweetie, can you check my spelling and grammar for me?

Dan


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Posted by Monique
a resident of Avila
on Jan 28, 2012 at 7:34 pm

Apologies to Dan, whose reasoning 'power' seems so similar to that of Steve. You two ought to don your house helmets and meet up at Peet's. You can enjoy each other's company as you swear at the teenaged, communist, skateboarders who are tearing down this great nation of ours.


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Posted by Dan
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jan 28, 2012 at 8:02 pm

Oh...ouch, that was quite the zinger, Sweetie!

Tell me, what does someone of substance have to do to hook up with such an cheerful gal like you?

You still refuse to discuss the stats above, eh?

Now go get my coffee while I go out and yell at a few young whippersnappers for fun.

Dan


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Posted by Gloria
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 29, 2012 at 10:54 am

Moan----eeek, step away from the computer now. Try some decaf. Your hostility and name calling are not typical of most elitists who tend to be limp wrested pacifists. Are you in a union? Maybe the farm workers?
Please, get out in the daylight and socialize, because you are starting to resemble the profile of a loner who could go postal at any time. Especially when challenged.......
Bye now.


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Posted by Evesdropping
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 30, 2012 at 10:10 am

Whew! It's exhausting just listening to this chatter!.. But, I like that GX pointed out there are social conservatives and fiscal conservatives. They are often mistakenly used interchangeably. It is true some noisier Republicans are both, but not always. It is best to not ignorantly spew out 'republicans' with such broad stroke attitude(only highlights ignorance of 'spewer'). Disagreements between the two conservatives are often louder and meaner than between Democrats and Republicans,
I am an extreme fiscal conservative Republican. I am not with today's more meddling and intrusive social conservatives, who violate the limited government concept.


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Posted by Monique
a resident of Avila
on Jan 30, 2012 at 10:54 am

I enjoyed Eve's dropping. I like to use labels too. I'm a good person. I'm unique. Other people are ignorant. Well, I'm exhausted by all this reading and writing. It tires the mind!


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