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Public meetings under way on how Bay Area should look in 2040

Original post made on Jan 5, 2012

Two regional planning agencies will hold a public meeting Wednesday in Dublin to seek comments on a blueprint-in-the-making for expanding transportation and housing in a sustainable way over the next 25 years.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, January 4, 2012, 10:37 AM

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Posted by Jay Smith
a resident of Bridle Creek
on Jan 5, 2012 at 12:03 pm

The One Bay Area Plan is designed to take away private property rights. MTC and ABAG are seeking approval from the public to spend $200 billion dollars of transportation funds on high density stack and pack housing next to mass transit. Mass transit is hopelessly underutilized and therefore must be subsidized. Less than 3% of the population currently uses it. MTC says that dense housing is necessary and will reduce GHG (Green House Gas) emissions, but what they don't tell you is that ALL of the developers will get GHG waivers. They will not have to perform any GHG calculations whatsoever.

You have to ask yourself why a regional transportation authority is responsible for telling us how and where we should live?

The regional plan will transform all nine Bay Area counties into high density (4 to 6 story) stack and packs with retail and business space below without the vote of the public. This plan calls for shrinking the UGB (Urban Growth Boundary) so that only property owners within this arbitrary boundary can build on their properties. If you have property outside of this boundary you will not be able to build on your property. This plan also calls for rezoning much of the properties within the URBAN growth boundary to mixed multi-use. This will severely impact current property owners. If you currently own a property (industrial, residential, etc) and this property is near mass transit or future planned mass transit your property will be rezoned to mixed multi-use. If you try to sell or change/improve your property you must bring it into conformance with the new zoning. This will cost you tons of money. MTC is also advocating for rezoning of private property to what they call "Open Space". This is the conversion of someones' private property from usable to restricted. This is done without any compensation to the current owner. This amounts to an administrative taking. All of this is being done without a vote from the public.

This total transformation is being planned by regional planners and stakeholders behind closed doors. MTC is only holding ONE public workshop per County and they are capping the participation at 100 people per meeting! That means roughly 900 people will be deciding the future and fate for over 7.5 million people in the Bay Area.

Unbelievable. Don't be fooled by Sustainable Development. It has nothing to do with the environment. It's all about the $$$$$$$
$200 Billion dollars is all these people need to sell you and your family's future out.


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Posted by Kendra Tilley
a resident of Downtown
on Jan 5, 2012 at 12:22 pm

The people of the Bay Area need to wake up and stand up. These meetings are a big hoax. The plan is already created and they will get you in a room to play make believe games with vague surveys that will lead you to answer the questions exactly as they want you to do. When you say I want clean water and air the plan will come back taking you off the rural land (to reduce your travel) put you inside a smart growth boundary and restrict water usage (in order to make sure there is water left for the people a 100 years from now..........and water NEVER disappears people....so how do they justify a water shortage) And then when you complain about the draconian laws, regulations and restrictions they will say "Well you wanted clear water and clean air" Call them out. Wait until you try to ask a question or for clarification. They will tell you they don't have time to answer your questions. Oh but the shills will try to shut you up. The audience is padded with shills, paid people to support this farce. Find out who they are and expose them. The fact that the CA Supreme Court is shutting down 400 redevelopment agencies in CA should be enough to let you know there are big problems with the government in DC and in CA. FIGHT FOR YOUR VERY LIFE because if they move forward and you don't kick ICLEI out of every city and county in CA....then rip out their policies you will eventually find you are living in a gulag and no longer free. Your neighbors will spy on you and get special favors for turning you in. Remember many of Jews in Germany stayed behind when others fled because they did not believe it could happen. If you think this can not happen in America THINK AGAIN. With the President we have in the White House you should be VERY afraid. CA needs to come back to reality. You have been led by the progressives in your state for so long you know longer are free and you just haven't realized it but one day you will and it will be too late.


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Posted by Hanna G.
a resident of Valley View Elementary School
on Jan 5, 2012 at 12:23 pm

I find this whole process very deceptive and controlling. The article above says that "they" have prepared scenarios for us to select from. Who the heck are they to plan our future and why are we just now finding out about the planned options? Do we not get a say in creating those options? I do not like my choices being limited by a transportation organization that has a vested interest in the outcome (MONEY!!!!). These people are not even elected so there is no recourse if the people living here do not agree with their plan options!

AND what about parents with children? I cannot see getting to childcare, school, sports, grocery stores AND work using public transit or a bicycle. I do not want it to be harder to drive, I want it to be easier to drive my car. The way they have this planned is they will get rid of parking near the places we need to go to live our lives. We moved away from the city for a reason. We wanted yards, easy access to activities for our kids and a nice life.

This is not how our government is designed to run. Central planning of the future removes the natural forces that allow society to develop as is best at any given time. I am sure the planners cannot foresee every eventuality and they will be spending a lot of money on their plans that may end up unused. Look at the track record of planned communities and transit villages; many do not end up being used. The buildings stand empty and the small local business that were once there shut down for lack of business. They end up looking nothing like the pretty pictures they show us.




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Posted by Karen Darra
a resident of Las Positas
on Jan 5, 2012 at 12:26 pm

Jay Smith is right! Don't be fooled by "Planners have prepared several scenarios for what the Bay Area could look like in 2040 and are seeking the public's help in selecting desired features among the alternative choices..." Every single choice the MTC and ABAG offer leads to the same results... so basically it is NOT about choosing what you want the Bay Area to look like in the future. They are giving participants the illusion that they are providing important public feedback when in reality they are being herded like sheep to the vision that the MTC and ABAG have for the future of the Bay Area. It is happening right now in Pleasanton. We are being forced to rezone several areas to "multi-use high density residential" zones. Do you want Pleasanton to look like Dublin? Wake up! Don't believe me? Check this out!
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Posted by Robert Smith
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Jan 5, 2012 at 12:27 pm

The best way to stop these agencies is to eleminate their funding. Sign Oscar Braun's petition to repeal CA environmental agencies & regulations.


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Posted by Priscilla King
a resident of another community
on Jan 5, 2012 at 12:43 pm

Building "dense housing" to increase use of mass transit is shortsighted. People don't enjoy being in densely populated areas, and don't use densely populated space in public-spirited ways. Ask yourselves, "Do I WANT to live in Brooklyn?" (And if the answer is yes, maybe you should move there.)


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Posted by Marie
a resident of Parkside
on Jan 5, 2012 at 12:50 pm

The money pit is VERY deep and hard to stop. Citizens must show up at meetings and be heard. Jay is right. Property rights are in jeopardy. MTC & ABAG are controlling the future of our cities. They are taking our cities from the people. The input received by citizens has fallen on deaf ears (and that is part of the plan, also). Our county supervisors and city officials believe what they hear from the One Bay Area group. The One Bay Area people have very successfully silenced the citizens. Information passed on to the county supervisors does NOT reflect the wish of the people. It is slanted and inaccurate at best.

We need to come together and save our cities!


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Posted by Libertarian
a resident of Birdland
on Jan 5, 2012 at 12:52 pm

We shouldn't have these agencies planning our environment and regulating the way we live. I want to live where I want to. I don't want to have to live near poor people/criminals and affirmative action types who want everything for free at my expense. I want to drive drunk if I want to. I'd rather my kids die sucking fumes from private polluters than submit to the tyranny of the regulatory state. Government keep your mitts off the chemicals in my kids' toys and cereals. They are the chemicals of liberty. Government quit planning highways and traffic signals that make me late for work. We'd be better off without city "planners" and regulators. 50 years ago when I was living in Pittsburgh no one ever heard of urban planning. MTC and ABAG, we don't need your stinking visions.... We are free Americans. I'm a smoker and a drinker and I vote!!!!!!!!!


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Posted by Bonnie
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jan 5, 2012 at 12:52 pm



I have noticed a trend here in California as well as other areas of the country where UGB is proposing how we live. When you rezone property what is the affect on the existing owners??… Who really benefits from this change. Follow the money folks. It's not about your quality of life, or going green the only thing this leads to is lining particular people's pockets with green backs. We have been duped into feeling like we don't care about our environment and that we are selfish and greedy in wanting to maintain our current lifestyles. Wake UP!! Stop buying into the "STORY". You are a stakeholder in your life, time to realize that your property, your rights, your livelihood is being stolen from you without a whimper from you.. when did you get the opportunity to vote on this issue? Time to stop calling it Sustainable Development, Smart Growth, Eco- entrepreneurs… it's about legislating you out of your homes, your businesses, your lifestyle to take what you have worked hard for all of your life and hand it over to someone else… It's called GRAND THEFT!!!! When you see those terms MTC, ABAG etc… remember to use the right terms GTP, GTR Grand Theft of your Property, Grand Theft of your Rights.


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Posted by Nancy
a resident of Downtown
on Jan 5, 2012 at 12:52 pm

Regarding MTC's visioning sessions, they appear to be designed to "construct a perception" of community consensus on the One Bay Area Plan. A few notes regarding MTC's advancement of this plan are as follows:

One Bay Area fails to disclose the degradation of the quality of life for those it affects. Statistics are available which show increased crime rates, mental and physical illness, disease, pollution and cost in more densely populated areas. The goal of One Bay Area is to deliberately create such population-density and, therefore, degrades the quality of life for Bay Area residents.

One Bay Area negatively affects minorities by forcing people back into densely populated living conditions despite the fact that minorities have shown preference for the suburbs by moving there in large numbers. Returning minorities to the living conditions that were fled is highly discriminatory; thus, One Bay Area is discriminatory.

One Bay Area fails to disclose the percentage of open space that already exists in the Bay Area. As of 2006, the Bay Area Open Space Council (BAOSC) stated that 1.1 million acres of preserved land already existed in the Bay Area. In 2006, their stated goal was to double that in order to make 46% of Bay Area land off-limits. Infringing upon personal property rights must occur to achieve this; hence, One Bay Area represents an attack on personal property rights as is clearly illustrated in the Caltrans funded "California Essential Habitat Connectivity Project" report.

The MTC has yet to clarify that the One Bay Area Plan will dictate how and where we will live. That is truly the bottom line of the plan and it is disingenuous and, in fact, unethical for the MTC to keep the primary objective of the plan a secret. If the MTC wants to be honest about the plan, they must openly state that it is designed to dictate how and where we will live and it will end property rights as we have known them. Only then can Bay Area residents make an informed decision.

Also, the MTC states that they base their decisions on race, color, gender, etc. Their discriminatory decision-making process is in direct violation of established law.

The "Plan Bay Area" efforts have already brought us the MTC's misappropriation $179 million from bridge tolls to purchase themselves new office space in San Francisco, as well as misappropriation of nearly $550,000 for dog and pony shows: visioning sessions and staging a green event for a Richmond building a few months ago.

Whether or not they are acting upon previously legislated or conceptualized ideas (which are clearly misguided and must be revisited by Bay Area residents), unethical and illegal practices must not be allowed.

It's clear that as the MTC engages with a tiny segment of the community through their visioning sessions, they fail to provide full disclosure, transparency and choice to Bay Area residents.


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Posted by Fred Nelson
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 5, 2012 at 12:54 pm

I don't remember anyone asking me if I wanted to spend millions on bike paths or bike lanes for my city. I'm a little old for hopping on a bicycle and riding to a distant destination. Yet, these bike lanes and paths (many already in place), are costing our counties millions of dollars. Who will use them? How many of us ride a bike? It appears that this is a plan to get us out of our cars and force us to ride bikes regardless of our personal physical circumstances and/or personal preferences. I like the comfort of my car, and want plenty of parking spaces to park it in. I don't believe my preference is part of their plan.


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Posted by Libertarian
a resident of Birdland
on Jan 5, 2012 at 12:55 pm

High density housing and mass transit? Who needs mass transit? Either drive your own car or fly!!!


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Posted by Buddy Johnson
a resident of Foothill Farms
on Jan 5, 2012 at 12:59 pm

Isn't this a iclei or agenda 21 deal? Not good folks


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Posted by Libertarian
a resident of Birdland
on Jan 5, 2012 at 1:01 pm

The same thing happened in Amsterdam. First came the bike paths, then came the ordinance that forced everyone to own a bicycle, then came the relaxed drug laws. It's all a conspiracy. They want to get us out of our cars, onto bicycles, and away from parking gargages, then they're going to force everyone to read books on benches along pedestrian malls, smoke marijuana and enjoy "adult" entertainment.


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Posted by Jan B.
a resident of Canyon Meadows
on Jan 5, 2012 at 1:01 pm

I agree with the above comments. I have attended several similar meetings in other states. You need look no further than the Cascade Policy Institute in Oregon. Web Link
Portland, Oregon was one of the original pioneers of these "smart growth" "rack 'em and stack 'em" plans. Those high density/multi-use buildings near train tracks are now turning into vacated slums. The free market and citizens should decide how they want to live. It should not be decided by unelected "regional" bureaucrats who do not represent the best interests of Americans. Those same "elitists" who think they know what is best for all of us (based on the United Nations edicts) are picking their friends to be the winners of these multi-million dollar deals, while citizens are the losers. Please stop the insanity now before it is too late!


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Posted by Libertarian again
a resident of Birdland
on Jan 5, 2012 at 1:12 pm

Save us from the ravages of Amsterdam and Portland, Oregon!!!!!

"The City of Roses' [Portland] approach to urban planning and outdoor spaces has often earned it a spot on lists of the greenest places to live. Portland is the first U.S. city to enact a comprehensive plan to reduce CO2 emissions and has aggressively pushed green building initiatives. It also runs a comprehensive system of light rail, buses, and bike lanes to help keep cars off the roads, and it boasts 92,000 acres of green space and more than 74 miles of hiking, running, and biking trails."

What a bunch of Commies!!!!!! Protect all SUV owners from the Marxist Bike Brigades!!!!!!


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Posted by Juanita
a resident of Bonde Ranch
on Jan 5, 2012 at 1:18 pm

Regional Transportation Commissions/Authorities across the nation are garnering for control of federal funds and political agendas. Citizen taxpayers are oblivious to the fact that between the federal dollars, your tax dollars, local and state tax dollars, also your tax dollars,subsidize all these entities in most part by as much as 90% in some communities.
Be forewarned that growing an entity such as this will place an economic burden on future citizens like a cancer eating away at their economic freedom. Once it is instituted, it will never go away.
United States Code 49 requires locales receiving federal tax dollars for transportation to comply with regulations that place further financial burdens on the citizen tax payers. The National Transit Database offers up all the facts. www.ntdprogram.gov


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Posted by Donald Gaines
a resident of Livermore
on Jan 5, 2012 at 1:23 pm

This is Agenda 21, iclei and Sustainability its also the end of all freedom, property or auto ownership and travel will be heavily restricted. If those who live in these areas own or hope to own property, cars or homes get it now and eventually they will take away from you, your children or grand children no matter how long its been in your family. Stop them now or lose it all.
www.iclei.org agendatoday21.com check out the links.

Some follow up from a friend
From: Wood Chips and Splinters Web Link

Agenda 21/ Sustainable Development Uses warm Fuzzy Names
Smart growth Open Spaces
Smart streets Walkable communities
Visioning projects Sustainable [your state or communities
Consensus Social justice
Urbanist communities Multi-use dwellings
Public Private Partnerships Greenways
Historic preservation High density urban development units
Sustainable Communities Buffer zones

Source: J. Gary Lawrence
“The Future of Agenda 21 in the New Millennium" â€" The Millennium Papers


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Posted by Agenda 21
a resident of another community
on Jan 5, 2012 at 1:29 pm

Jay almost nailed it.

What he describes is a process called rule by "consensus" using the Hegelian dialectic, where a predetermined decision of an unelected panel of cognoscenti is ratified by the elected officials, with an inalterable outcome. This is how the Soviet Union was run... by "committee."

What the whole discussion is all about is how to implement "sustainability", not whether it should be implemented at all.

What Jay is describing is all about United Nations Agenda 21 and ICLEI, which most folks don't know about and won't bother studying in depth. Let's just say it connects all the mysterious dots about why Going Green is going like gangbusters. Google its keywords and you will wake up in a sweat.

Local politicians and redevelopers love it because they succumb to the million dollar "coercion grants" from the fed in exchange for pursuing "sustainability" action plans. I attended my 5 hour city council meeting where 8.5 million of fed dollars were offered if we just built a "transit center" for light rail. It was really sad watching the Chamber of Commerce and local developers begging for the money, using all the key Agenda 21 buzzwords like "stakeholders" and " public private partnerships". But, courageously, the council voted "no", 4-3.

Americans better study Agenda 21 or they won't be Americans much longer, since it is born from and of communism and fascism, plain and simple. It is a synthesis of both. Check it out here: Web Link

There's a much more sinister agenda behind Agenda 21, that is just too wacky to fathom, even after reading it in black and white in the UN materials.

Three main documents that direct the United Nations Sustainable Development Agenda 21 program include the approximately 1150 page Global Biodiversity Assessment Report, which was issued at the same 1992 Rio Earth Summit Conference where Agenda 21 signed by Geo. H. W. Bush. The other core documents are the Earth Charter and the actual Agenda 21 document.
Here's the link to page 773 of the Global Biodiversity Assessment Report:
Web Link
It also provides some general info on the population reduction statement and related documents.
The Global Biodiversity Assessment Report, page 773, calls for a population reduction to 1 billion people. (An exception is provided: if the world is de-industrialized, a peasant population of 4-5 billion is to be allowed)
The UN's Global Biodiversity Report states:
"Population growth has exceeded the capacity of the biosphere"

I have read many of the scientific papers, which formed and sustain Agenda 21, all of which conclude that we are actually beyond the point of no return from green house gas suicide.

Good luck, comrades..........


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Posted by Abigial Adams
a resident of Birdland
on Jan 5, 2012 at 1:31 pm

"in a sustainable way" - oh how you Progressive/socialists like to use that word! Real meaning - using our taxpayer dollars for a fraudent agenda in the name of a lie "global warming" fostered by the United Nations while trying to act like "big Daddy". Sorry you are not smart enough! We, the American people are one to yoou! We are not going to give up our cars for your money hungry scheme to rid a train that will always be in the hole and taxpayers - MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND - IF YOU BUY INTO THIS THE BILLS FOR THE RAILROAD WILL COME OUT OF YOUR TRANSPORTATION FUNDS EACH YEAR AND THIS MEANS - NO BAILOUTS - AND YOUR ROAD, STREET AND BRIDGE REPAIRS WILL GO IN THE TANK BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT HAVE THE FUNDS TO TAKE CARE OF IT! FOLLOW THIS TO YOUR FINANCIAL PERIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted by Dr Ronald Hei
a resident of another community
on Jan 5, 2012 at 1:35 pm

These people typify why we have no faith in our government. They seek to take rights away from property owners. They and their socialist associates should GOOOH.


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Posted by Libertarian
a resident of Birdland
on Jan 5, 2012 at 1:54 pm

Yes, we saw this when the corrupt state forcefully took our rightful property from us during the Civil War. We saw this when the corrupt state mandated through threat of force that Utah must give up its Morman practices of child slavery polygamy. We saw the elitist-backed corrupt state send in the national guard to force states to subordinate themselves to "integrated education." Now its using that tired old Christian Hegalian dialectic to bring about a synthetic order in which the liberal-communist-Christian elite minds force us through mind control to ride bikes and pay for bike trails. Who needs bikes when you can fly? Where is our Jefferson Davis or Robert E. Lee in this time of great crisis for the bay area?


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Posted by Mimi
a resident of Castlewood
on Jan 5, 2012 at 2:10 pm

I hate to burst Jeb Bing's bubble but there is no "... continuation of the dialogue on "Plan Bay Area" held last year". The meeting that are billed as asking for "public input" are really nothing more than a Kabuki theater exercise in making you think that you have input. The scenarios are all pre-determined and lead you down the path of the solution that they want which is high density housing, near mass transit. The objective is to get you out of your car and move you off the land. They want to destroy your local community by importing low income people in to high income communities. Pleasanton should have learned it's lesson when they were sued for $2Million to put more low income housing in town. What happens to your schools? What happens to the character of your community? What happens to your property values?

MTC is the Metropolitan TRANSPORTATION Commission. What right do they have to be dictating how and where people should live? MTC in conjunction with ABAG (Association of Bay Area Governments) are unelected and unaccountable to the voters.

They are usurping the authority of you local elected officials.

Wake up AMERICA. Your liberty is at stake !!!


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Posted by John Adams
a resident of San Ramon
on Jan 5, 2012 at 2:18 pm

This is just more Agenda 21 garbage letting the UN decide whats best for American communities.
How is it that they can limit these meetings to 100 people mostly environmental and social justice advocates in nine Bay area counties determine what 7.28 million people want. I'd say 900 people hardly represent the wishes of over 7 million. These issues should be put on the ballot then we can see what people want, not just some ideas of non-elected agenda driven wackos.


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Posted by Janet
a resident of Bonde Ranch
on Jan 5, 2012 at 2:20 pm

The One Bay Area Plan is designed to support "sustainable development" and "smart growth". Before you go tripping off in to UTOPIA, you might want to look at the actual results from cities that have implemented Smart Growth policies. They do the opposite of what they are purported to do. Recommend you look at the stories on SMART GROWTH DISASTERS which analyze what has happened in Portland and San Jose. Check out this link to read about SMART GROWTH DISASTERS: Web Link


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Posted by Bill
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 5, 2012 at 2:29 pm

Where's Will Rogers, Mark Tawin, and Senator Joe McCarthy when you really need them!

Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being governed by those who are dumber. ~Plato




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Posted by Bill
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 5, 2012 at 2:48 pm

Janet -

Understand why the group you hyperlinked to is using Portland as an example of a dysfunctional green based city.

I was in southern Portland on a business trip. The business part ended on Saturday and I was to hop on a flight back to the Bay Area from Portand International the next day, Sunday.

To my amazement Portland city officials closed down Interstate 5 and 405, get this, so that bicycle riders could ride down the freeway for a Sunday stroll!!! Who in their right mind closes not one, but two interstate freeways for bicyclists? I'll tell you, the same type of people that are on the MTC board.

I was fortunate that I left early for the airport. When I got to the airport I had a whole 5 minutes to spare, thanks to all the detours I had to take to finally arrive at the airport.


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Posted by Janette
a resident of another community
on Jan 5, 2012 at 2:48 pm

The big problem with the "Urban Vision" tool is it is neither pro-urban nor visionary. Another play on words from a group of unelected "officials" who are lined up for federal dollars (off the citizens backs) while ignoring the simple truth that "there is no free lunch".

Attend a meeting and just try to get a word in edgewise. You will be shut down and falsely told questions & comments will be taken at the end of the meeting. This is a charade to make the people imagine they are involved in the planning of their communities while nothing could be further from the truth. The facts are you are being pushed out of your communities and your property rights, along with your way of life, are systematically being taken from you. Read up on The Delphi Technique - it is being used on you the unwitting taxpayer; Web Link Wake up America, you are being manipulated. There are hundreds of educational articles on the internet exposing Agenda 21 under all it's false names. ABAG and MTC work hand-in-hand with CARB and other unelected "officials" to perpetrate this destructive plan on the bay area.


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Posted by Arturo Retata
a resident of Livermore
on Jan 5, 2012 at 3:14 pm

OBAP is regional plan that takes away our ability to govern ourselves locally. In reality it is alternate government of unelected committee that do not report to we the people. This is bad idea and bad plan. Did you not get climategate memos that so-called hockey stick doesn't exist and that carbon is not a pollutant? If not let me advise you that there is no need to stack and pack our people in little transit villages along rail lines. We do not want the OBAP vision of the future. Es una pesadilla y no lo quiero.


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Posted by spare me
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 5, 2012 at 3:16 pm

How about no new construction in years where we have Spare the Air days. The air is already congested. Stop increasing the density and people.

And no new construction unless they can prove that it will not increase our consumption of water and any costs for additional water infrastructure is 100% paid for by the new development. I am sick and tired of the government approving more homes and then saying that my rates will go up to support the additional infrastructure.

As someone who has been to some of those MTC and ABAG meetings I can tell you that the members there only care about themselves. How they can increase their agency size and budget. You will never see an agency say that they are no longer needed or they should be downsized.


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Posted by greg
a resident of Carlton Oaks
on Jan 5, 2012 at 3:18 pm

I have attended visioning workshops and their is already a predetermined outcome and input of anything contradictory is looked on with disapproval. It's all a show to make it look like everyone is for these predetermined plans. These plans for social and economic justice by spreading the wealth are unconstitutional and we should only have Equal Justice for all according to the Constitution. Wake up people before it's to late.


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Posted by Democrats against UN Agenda 21
a resident of another community
on Jan 5, 2012 at 3:24 pm

This is an ICLEI devised scheme to implement UN Agenda 21 in the 9 Bay area counties. Unfortunately, this isn't the only place this is happening. Besides One Bay Area there are other regional transportation and housing plans being implemented by un-elected boards and commissions all over the United States. They're all almost identical. The oppressors are in the end game now people. They are freely trampling property rights and dictating land use without taking any responsibility for the damages they cause property owners.

All of it is justified by their trumped up nonsense about man's activities killing the planet. The total of man-made contributions to global carbon dioxide is only 4 percent. The other 96% comes naturally having nothing to do with our activites. At the last meeting they said that their Initial Vision Plan would only reduce carbon dioxide emissions by 5 percent in 25 years. So instead of man-made carbon dioxide emmissions of 4 percent, that would reduce it by another .2%, or down to 3.8% of the total.

Is this enough to redesign our cities and pick winners and losers in the real estate market? Is this enough to remove car lanes, that by the way cost a fortune to build, in order that a few more people will take public transportation or ride a bike? And is this enough to justify building rail at a price that we cannot afford?

We are now subjects of the State as far as they are concerned and they don't see why they should have to allow us to move freely and live in large comfortable homes. They are downsizing us by forcing smartgrowth to be built by bribing the cities into adopting their plan. Notice how the money comes from the federal government? It was the federal government that signed our country onto UN Agenda 21 and the implementation comes down from them into the cities and counties. ICLEI, the UN's agent is involved in every level of government in the United States invisibly crafting new laws and regulations that are virtually identical in every part of the country. Fight this now or it will be too late.


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Posted by Jake the Patriot
a resident of another community
on Jan 5, 2012 at 3:42 pm

lets begin by calling this exactly what it is. this is a bald faced grab for control of American Private Property by the factions that believe in Collectivism. they believe that the government should control every citizen from cradle to grave because the average Citizen is just too stupid to make the kind of decisions the Elite can make. Throw out all things that subscribe to Sustainable Development and turn the reins over to private Industry to create what the Public really wants.UN Agenda21 and it's American counterpart ICLEI are just ways to give over the sovereignty of America to others.


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Posted by steve
a resident of Parkside
on Jan 5, 2012 at 3:42 pm

Libertarian (no, you're not), I'd be glad to help move you up to Portland, since you seem to think it's a 'green' utopia and a model for how to put all the hamsters on the same treadmill. Or, we could take up a collection and send you and Jane/slippers up there, where they really love Californians that are stupid enough to move there. Please consider leaving now.


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Posted by Harry
a resident of another community
on Jan 5, 2012 at 4:00 pm

So the Question is how well did the Geneva Towers of San Francisco turn out??? What about Cabrini Green in Chigago??/ Please in form me Who wants to live in the Styvant-Bedford neighborhood??? What about the Slums in Rio and Calcutta.No one in their right minds thats who!! This group made up partly of MTC, ABAG, OBAP are pawns for the Socialization of our country. The squeezing of the populous into smaller and smaller areas is not restricted to the Bay Area and the above mentioned parties. We need to be aware of the increase of restriction of land use including the increase of the National Park Service and the National Forest Service. The proposed Green Zones around the existing National Parks and the designation of Wilderness areas. (Wilderness Areas=No humans allowed). This is going on as we speak in the San Gabriel Mtns Nat'l Pk. Rim of the Valley This needs to be stopped on all fronts. We are being divided and will be conqured if these Socialists are not stopped.


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Posted by steve
a resident of Parkside
on Jan 5, 2012 at 4:09 pm

Makes you ownder where all those raving environmentalists are now. Where's the EIR's? Rubber stamped by social engineers....?


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Posted by Stephen F Hunter
a resident of another community
on Jan 5, 2012 at 4:12 pm

The only way we can stop this nonsense is to starve it. The feds are providing funding when property owners do not want or can possibley benefit from this. Everyone need to immediately increase the number of dependents to max so no payrol taxes can be withheld. Once the cashflow is stopped, they will show us just how much they need us and just print and borrow, even with no cashflow. But, we must stop them. Increase you deductions today and in a couple of months we should se some discomfort for the feds.


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Posted by Ann
a resident of Dublin
on Jan 5, 2012 at 4:21 pm

Wow I had no idea what this was about. It seems things are stacked against the resident, citizen and property owner. I have a LOT of questions for the people at the meeting. I'm a blogger and I will report what I see and hear.


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Posted by Patriot
a resident of San Ramon
on Jan 5, 2012 at 5:04 pm

It's time we show up en mass to these meetings and demand we be heard. We do it now or we lose our future and that of our children.


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Posted by Rosetta Bailey
a resident of another community
on Jan 5, 2012 at 5:23 pm

It seems that no matter how hard we fight them they are doing it for our benefit, to make us safe, for our better good. I like very much to ride a bike but for my personal physical benefit not a form of transportation. In Pompano Beach, Florida they have an on going plan that one can rent the bike and return it. I rented one of their rooms for an AGENDA 21 event and the next week the display was not there. The UN and their NGO's want to take over our lives, I wonder if even the NGO's know what the end result will turn out like.
Getto's with limited travel, gmo foods to eat, no vitamins unless a doctor prescribes it, over 70 years old forget about getting better if you get sick, a panel of unmedical beaurcrates will make the decision as to if you live or die.
God bless America remember it takes only 10% of the population to change things only 10%


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Posted by HowMany.org
a resident of another community
on Jan 5, 2012 at 5:25 pm

S.B. 375 mandates that we reduce our per capita emissions by 15 percent (now apparently 7 percent by 2020), to 85 percent of current levels, by 2035. But Plan Bay Area has tied this to allowing 903,000 additional housing units, enough for 2.2 million more people, 33.8 percent more than live here now. If 133.8 percent of our current population each emits 85 percent of current levels, then our total emissions rise by 13.7 percent (133.8 x .85 = 1.137).

That's an increase of over 45 million tons of CO2-equivalent greenhouse gases every year. That larger population would have to reduce individual emissions by a much larger percentage to achieve 1990 levels by 2025, as required by the Global Warming Solutions Act of 2006 (A.B. 32).

These numbers, bad as they are, do not account for all Bay Area emissions. Most of our emissions are not generated locally – they are released into the atmosphere wherever the goods and food we use are produced and transported. Atmospheric greenhouse gases do not "respect" regional, state or national boundaries - "outsourcing" our emissions will not help reduce CO2 in the atmosphere.


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Posted by Meridith
a resident of Mariposa Ranch
on Jan 5, 2012 at 6:29 pm

I am really surprised that an operation like this has spread throughout California unoticed till now. I have been to their meetings and they are a sham. They did this on the sly and are trying to take over our country. I just found out I may not be able to sell our land. I asked why.. This is why, this has been in the works for several years, they plan to rewild everything, take away
our cars and have us on mass transit.
They have their little people at every table trying to show us at every cost how this is going to help us and the community. And I mean community..as it in commune. Wake up America! This has been in the works for many years. I wouldn't have believed this was possible before now, but with all the things going on right ...well is. People look up Agenda 21. Please we need to fight this monster!


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Posted by Another Opinion
a resident of Ponderosa
on Jan 5, 2012 at 6:51 pm

I am fighting a different battle in the same war... "Comprehensive Planning" on a local basis... you should google "Your Town/County" + "Comprehensive Plan" and read it... wrap your head with Duct Tape in case your head explodes...

a few resources:

www.AmericanPolicy.org

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www.DemocratsAgainstUNAgenda21.com (buy her book - Behind the Green Mask: UN Agenda 21 -great resource)


I am intent on creating a National Conference (in Nashville) to teach a hand-to-gland combat style "How To" 3-day intensive workshop style boot camp on how to use legal, political, grassroots and guerrilla warfare against Sustainable Anything...

It is in the embryonic idea stage... Facebook me if you want to stay informed...
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We are fighting the property rights-stripping trend of "Sustainable Development", "Smart Growth" and Agenda 21.

To learn more visit our Youtube Channel and view several videos on what we are facing:

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Posted by Libertarian
a resident of Birdland
on Jan 5, 2012 at 7:16 pm

Up in Portland they shut down streets on Sundays to allow communist families an opportunity to peddle their bicycles roughshod over all SUV owners. This is a United Nations tyrannical plot to make-over all American cities so they resemble Portland or Minneapolis, Stockholm or Amsterdam. Do not be put off by the organized effort on these pages to disrupt bicycle tyranny. The communist elites behind Agenda 21 want us to ignore how much bicyclists pollute the atmosphere. Studies show that huffing and puffing bicyclists create more pollution than cow belches.


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Posted by Debra
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Jan 5, 2012 at 7:55 pm

To Regional Planning of Alameda County,

We have been fighting this for too long. When a country and State is broke and quazi governmental organizations make decisions and use grant money (taxpayer $) to create further hardship on the citizens , that is tyranny! Forcing citizens into these Human habitats, Only Globalists deem this sustainable.Where is the Law that gives you this right? It is a fact that "green" must be Fiscally responsible and this is NOT. The people do not want this Plan, period. Smart growth is denying the right to live the way we choose or to pursue happiness. Private Property rights are at stake and if it denies "one " individual their property rights it should not happen.So far every project has been totally under estimated $$ and so will this.
By doing this you will be emptying the state of tax payers! Global warming is a hoax and humans cannot produce enough emissions to change the climate. The Sun controls the climate. This is governance against the people and it is tyrannical.

Your visioning practices are a sham and required by some "rule" you have created. Regionalism is the communist plan of CONTROL. I would suggest everyone show up and not give this Commission 5 minutes for their presentation. Line up the Constitution to be read line by line. Then read the Presidents Council on Sustainable Development and oh, don't forget to read them the Give me Liberty or Give me Death. This will be a useful meeting for learning about what America is about, Property Rights. They really don't care about your opinion anyway and that's a fact.
Agenda21Today.com


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Posted by Really?
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 5, 2012 at 8:34 pm

"Smart growth is denying the right to live the way we choose or to pursue happiness. Private Property rights are at stake and if it denies "one " individual their property rights it should not happen."

So Debra, I assume you were in support of the Lins who wanted to build 50+ homes on their personal property? Seems like this community wasn't and did not agree with your statement.

See Libertarian- how they flip flop according to what they want?


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Posted by Lexi
a resident of Parkside
on Jan 5, 2012 at 8:38 pm

If this isn't stopped, we are looking at imminent domain takeovers of homes and land for green space and then being forced to move into the densely populated "designated" areas for the good of everyone. It's happening already at a national level, and the general public and media ignore it! Would someone pinch me please?


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 5, 2012 at 8:38 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Wow Jeb, you sure attracted all the shills.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 5, 2012 at 8:47 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

"Smart Growth" as a concept always looks like old growth to me. Cities used to grow rather organically, with residential, retail, and industrial all mixed together. Zoning was an attempt to separate those different land uses for various reasons. Then we ended up with sprawling suburbs where you needed a car to get anywhere and other unintended consequences. Now we're pretty much back to trying to create those more organic people-sized living environments that are more affordable. Kind of ironic.


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Posted by Delphi Defeater
a resident of Bordeaux Estates
on Jan 5, 2012 at 9:02 pm

I have attended several meetings with these A21 manipulators. Read here for an explanation of how you are being manipulated. Go to the meetings prepared. Knowledge is weaponry. Keep it clean and dry. Study to show yourself armed with the necessary equipment to protect yourself. These people are masters at their game. Delphi will control us all if we don't learn to combat it. Read here for more info.
Web Link


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Posted by Wilamena Draft
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 5, 2012 at 9:07 pm

If the people did not vote for this, they didn't and were not consulted, then it is unconstitutional, a stealth attack on our freedom and our national sovereignty and it needs to be stopped in its entirety. The American people are waking up across the nation and have never asked for any of this to be realized. Our elected officials at every level need to defend our liberty or resign immediately. The UN is diabolical.


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Posted by John lorimer
a resident of another community
on Jan 5, 2012 at 9:17 pm

Adam Smith and the Wealth of Nations
I also recommend The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith in which the author explained how wealth is created by individuals acting independently in their own interests. The profit motive is literally what makes people produce and prosper. Some of us are better at it than others. That does not mean that it is the only worthwhile pursuit of mankind. It is not. However, it is the economic model that works and produces the most prosperity and the greatest freedom.


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Posted by Libertarian
a resident of Birdland
on Jan 5, 2012 at 9:42 pm

I have been to several meetings with these communist, elitist, Hegelian tyrants. In the last meeting, I personally saw them eat their young as part of a ritual sacrifice to the United Nations and its aim to put all US citizens into re-education camps. Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin warned us that this was coming. Remember when Owebama addressed public school kids in his 'back-to-school' speech? The annointed one was using a special kind of hypnotic thought control that has your teenagers giving up their cars in favor of ten-speeds. This is it!!! The apocalypse is upon us!!! Fight the Manchurian Candidate!!!


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Posted by Franklin Pierce
a resident of Downtown
on Jan 6, 2012 at 6:56 am

The Emperor Wears No Clothes! The evildoers behind this takeover of private property tell us how wonderful the plan is but don't tell us that the program will destroy our Republic and everything we have fought and died for for the last two hundred years. Well, most of us can look at them and see right through what they are trying to sneak by us. They can cloak their agenda in a slick plan which tries to make us believe we are actually participating in the process but they can't fool most of us. They are trying to bring us "1984" and "Brave New World" in one package. NO!


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Posted by Rob Fisher
a resident of Foxborough Estates
on Jan 6, 2012 at 7:20 am

Once everyone has been herded into urban areas, who do you think will own all the mineral rights and resources in the rural areas? It would bad enough if it were the American government, but this plan isn't put out by our own government. Dig deeper and you will see it is part of the UN ideology that wants a one world order. That's why this same scenario is happening in other countries as well. We are giving up our American sovereignty when we sign on to a plan like this. Don't be fooled, we can all be good stewards of the land without having to be regulated by the UN.


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Posted by Pastor Duane L. Wildie
a resident of California Reflections
on Jan 6, 2012 at 8:00 am

Please add me to your mailing list


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Posted by Lugnut
a resident of Carlton Oaks
on Jan 6, 2012 at 8:35 am

Suoervisor Haggerty is an MTC Commisioner. Vote him out of office or threaten to and he might wise up. But then again money is his motivator, however he can get it.


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Posted by joanna
a resident of Downtown
on Jan 6, 2012 at 8:45 am

"Libertarian", I love it! Thanks for brightening up this morning! Ha!


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Posted by steve
a resident of Parkside
on Jan 6, 2012 at 1:37 pm

Yeah, Joanna, we all love Libs sarcasm (not), as opposed to comments that are salient and on topic.


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Posted by LP MILLER
a resident of another community
on Jan 8, 2012 at 4:50 am

EVERYONE MUST GET OUT AND VOTE IN 2012 VOTE NOT FOR THE PERSON BUT FOR AMERICA. THIS MAY BE THE LAST TIME WE CAN VOTE AS THE COUNTRY IS RAPPADLY BECOMING A DICTATORSHIP.


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Posted by Nosy Neighbors
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Jan 9, 2012 at 10:54 am

Nosy Neighbors is a registered user.

How shocking. When you attempt to "register" for any of these events they are already all full and you will be asked to be put on a "waiting list." So in reality all of their public events have already been pre-stocked with their people, with their pre-defined statements, comments and essentially their conclusions. It looks like any attempt to inject an opposing viewpoint will require some gorilla like tactics on our parts to bypass their gatekeepers. Personally I think we should all show up this Wednesday in Dublin around 5:00 with our video camera's, iPhones, etc. in hand and start asking questions of all the 100 arriving "participants" to really see who is attending and what social organizations, unions or community organizer groups are representing this forum.

If it could be possible to put the spotlight on this group and show their supporters to be the rabid socialists/one world government cretins that they truly are public sentiment and support for their agenda could finally be undermined.

Power to the people P-Town!


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Posted by Kevin
a resident of Kottinger Ranch
on Jan 9, 2012 at 11:43 am

Re: "EVERYONE MUST GET OUT AND VOTE IN 2012 VOTE NOT FOR THE PERSON BUT FOR AMERICA. THIS MAY BE THE LAST TIME WE CAN VOTE AS THE COUNTRY IS RAPPADLY BECOMING A DICTATORSHIP."

How shocking, indeed. America is rappadly going down the drain. We see it with some of the VAPPAD comments here. I want to vote for America, too. Problem is, is America even on the ballot?


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 9, 2012 at 12:25 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Really? There's a limit to the number of participants at a public meeting? I'd show up in Dublin at 5:00pm just because of that.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 9, 2012 at 12:29 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Look at that. 100 people limit per workshop, only 9 workshops (one in each of the nine counties of the Bay Area): 900 people. What's the population of the Bay Area? What percentage of the population is 900 people?

If these organizations don't want to give the appearance of there being a deliberate attempt to shut the public out of the discussion, they should reconsider limiting the attendance.


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Posted by Kevin
a resident of Kottinger Ranch
on Jan 9, 2012 at 1:00 pm

Yes, redolant of Bush's speeches at public high schools when anyone with an anti-war sticker on their car was prohibited from entry. Well, actually, that was probably worse. It doesn't seem like the United Nations tyrants are limiting attendance based upon political views. Just how many Ron Paul creeps does it take, anyway, to shout out that the urban planners are bike-riding communists?


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jan 9, 2012 at 1:21 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

My response: Web Link


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Posted by Steve
a resident of Parkside
on Jan 9, 2012 at 7:59 pm

Lol, Stacey. Kevin, I'm sure these local, public meetings have the same security concerns as a presidential town hall. Right? Are you Berkeley types planning on plotting more anarchy to try to get your way, or do you peaceniks promote violence only when non communists are involved.


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Posted by Steve
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jan 10, 2012 at 8:44 am

This meeting is worthless. The Bay Area already looks like s***, and will only be getting worse. We governed by left wing kooks, the developers are trying to turn it into another Los Angeles, we're swamped by out-of-control immigration and Balkanized, and our infrastructure and economy are in the tank.


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Posted by TOS (The Other Steve)
a resident of Birdland
on Jan 10, 2012 at 5:45 pm

Oh happy day! The Dog and Pony show meetings have already begun to be shown for what they are, a big joke.

Web Link

I'm beginning to think that a small dose of peaceful social dissent is absolutely in order for tomorrow's meeting in Dublin. To sit this one out will just give these whackamoles added ammunition. Looks like it's time to storm the castle folks, torches and pitchforks optional.


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