US Supreme Court rules California must immediately release approximately 37,000 prisoners. State, National, International, posted by Martha, a resident of the Del Prado neighborhood, on May 23, 2011 at 11:07 am
Today, May 23rd., the United States Supreme court ruled in favor of the plainiff by a 6-2 margin that California do to prison overcrowding and poor conditions must immediately release 37,000 to 42,000 inmaWeb Link back into the population. This is something we should watch closely and will be very dangerous for us. In addition, they have established a maximum number of prisoners which can be held in the prison system. After releasing he inmates for every one person sentenced one must be released .
Posted by Janice, a resident of Dublin, on May 23, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Just you wait and see. The corrupt Dems who are leading this state into complete ruin and devastation will use the Supreme Court decision to justify more state workers and that will mean more unsustainable salaries and pensions with no responsibility or accountability and more unfunded liabilities for us responsible and accountable but overburdened taxpayers. Save Our State. Say NO to irresponsible and unaccountable parole officers whose unsustainable salaries and pensions amount to unfunded liabilities that threaten to bankrupt our precious state.
Posted by Sylvia, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on May 23, 2011 at 4:39 pm
My vote goes to Janice. It doesn't stop at the unfunded parole officers. They're only the tip of the unfunded liability problem. 37-47 thousand more unaccountable inmates on the street will mean more underfunded traffic congestion. They're going to have to install more traffic cameras which are just another irresponsible tax they have to impose on us because they can't sustainably support all their unfundeds. And you mark my words their going to want to hire more poltice officers, which means more cars, uniforms, and badges.
Posted by radical, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 23, 2011 at 6:00 pm
the quickest and best solution is to use a little of the vast open areas of land in California, with a mostly pleasant climate to build a tent city a la Sheriff Joe in Arizona = quick, cheap relief to overcrowding of prisons
Posted by Lillian, a resident of the Beratlis Place neighborhood, on May 23, 2011 at 6:42 pm
radical has the best idea. Thats brilliant. Only problem is that it costs to build a tent city, and the irresponsible ol' moonboomer will want to hire untold numbers of unaccountable tent builders and desert surveyers with salaries and pensions that are unfunded liabilities and unsustainable.
If we send them all to DC we habe to make the irresponsible Obamacare Man will make it a huge transportation boondoggel with no accountability. Before you know it will be faced with unsustainable liabilities. Look what happened with GetMo. None of the states would take them. Same thing here. How do you ship so many killers and rapists across state lines?
Posted by Fed Up, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on May 23, 2011 at 9:01 pm
The left wing Marxist Supreme Court got it all wrong as usual. We shouldn't be releasing the prisoners. They deserve to be is there with all the rest of em. We have to get rid of the dead weight. Too many unfunded liabilities in the prison guard ranks. We can't afford them and there corrupted unions. They run California just ask Jerry Che-Che Brown. Get rid of the unsustained liabilities that are bringing this state to ruination. To much unaccountability and irresponsibility to go around. Get rid of 2/3rd's of the unfunded guards and make the other one's earn there money.
Posted by Bottom Line, a resident of the Del Prado neighborhood, on May 23, 2011 at 9:11 pm
At the end of the day the reason for this is the same as everything else in this state. No tax revenue because we did and still are doing everything we can to chase out business and people who have money. At the same time this is going on we are pouring what money we have into government workers and their pensions. Who do we have to blame for this?...............us because we keep voting these idiots in.
Posted by Double Dee Disgusted, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on May 23, 2011 at 9:21 pm
Hold on there just one Montana minute there Bottom Line. Blame yourself if you want too but don't blame me. I didn't vote in nobody. I refuse to vote or particiapte in any thing that leads to no tax revenue because of the unfunded liabilities that YOU voted for not me.
Your right about one thing the prisoners are becuase of the businesses leaving the state. Fewer businesses to rob makes it easier for the irresponsible overpaid fat-butt police to capture the robbers who have a reduced poole of businesses to rob. Therefor: more prison inmates and more prison guards with unsustainable and unfunded liabilities for salaries and pensions. And we just keep chasing the businesses over to Neveda and Wyoming and the other responsible states. It all leaves me ... DD Disgusted
Posted by Parker, a resident of the Country Fair neighborhood, on May 24, 2011 at 4:45 am
Liberal activist judges. And we pay their salaries and pensions too all of which are unsustainable and add up to unfunded liabilities for the taypayer backbones of the country. Its a huge tax revenue burden. Whoever decided that judges should be tenured anyway? Elections are the way to go. That would keep some of the irresponsible and unaccountable activist creeps out. Businesses would return. Let the people judge. Let the people decide who goes to jail and who doesn't. I want my country back.
Posted by Florence, a resident of the Foothill Place neighborhood, on May 24, 2011 at 9:21 am
I also am sickened by this. I'm about to lose my breakfast. The thought of child molesters living in Pleasanton is almost too much to bare. Fortunately they make them wear ankle bracelets that glow in the dark and blink during the day, so you can worn your kids to run when they see them.
Posted by Curious, a resident of the Del Prado neighborhood, on May 24, 2011 at 9:58 am
Warning to all parents - PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE do not let your children have access to your passwords and computers so they can post on the PW forums. It is quite humorous to read their postings, but it really doesn't advance the discussion much.
Posted by Parker, a resident of the Country Fair neighborhood, on May 24, 2011 at 2:22 pm
The only thing childish about this discussion is that ""Curious"" doesn't have anything to add accept to call names. Clearly he doesn't want the discussion to continue. Well, it is truely unfortunate that the unions hire thugs to intercept our messages and bring everybody down like that. It didn't work with me!!!
Posted by TJCG, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 24, 2011 at 10:54 pm
I agree that this is messed up. But the problem is not a "liberal court" (given the makeup of the Roberts court that doesn't even make sense). As a society we continue to have our priorities out of wack! We continue to build more prisons instead of more schools; obviously that isn't working for us. Voters in our state have voted in too many unfunded or just bad laws via the inititive process. We should scrape that process and then actually vote LEADERS in who can/will solve our problems. That's what "republics" do. In addition, start having publicly funded campaigns & get all of the money (corporate, union, whatever) out of politics so politicians will only be beholden to voters not who gives them big checks! California was once the land of opportunity...but like the rest of the nation, money has greatly corrupted the entire process.
Posted by DD Disgusted, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on May 24, 2011 at 11:06 pm
We are agreed things are messed up. I don't know how you can claim that the Supreme Court is not liberal. Look at the prisoner ruling. And are we any farther towards saving millions of unborn babies from murder under the name of abortion? Have they ruled against Planned Abortionhood or gay marriage?
However; I'm with you about getting rid of the unfunded laws. They get shoved right down our throats, they're unsustainable and end up being liabilities that exhaust us beyond the pale. We don't need more laws, we need more leaders. Great leaders who will save us from the devastation we face from burdensome debt that is increasing every day of our lives. We have to think of our children and grandchildren.
Problem is who's there to lead us? Who will be our great leader and lead us back to greatness? That's the question of the evening if you ask me.
Posted by John, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 25, 2011 at 8:31 am
Geez! What do you want, people? You advocate for harsh and long prison sentences and when the prisons get overcrowded, you complain about the cost of building and running more prisons! This ruling is merely the logical result of our schizophrenic priorities.
No, the ruling did NOT order the immediate release of the prisoners. Only that we have to find a solution to the overcrowding that now constitutes "cruel and unusual punishment" (it's in the Constitution, people).
So, yes, we are forced to spend stRe money to house the prisoners we lock up based on the strict laws we all want fir our safety. How do you propose doing that without raising revenue in some way??
Posted by Wow!, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on May 25, 2011 at 9:01 am
Just another example of the corrupt public unions in the state. Prison workers salaries are out of control as are their pensions which contribute the the high cost of incarceration in this state. I say let some out early, reduce the workers salaries by 20% and eliminate their pensions and go to a 401K that they fund themselves, and there will be plenty of money left for prisons for those which truly belong there. In the meantime, I would let 15,000 inmates out and place them in the cities of San Francisco, Berkeley, San Mateo, etc. I think after a few months the liberals would be screaming (literally) for prison reform and reduction in pensions.
Posted by Just Another American, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 25, 2011 at 9:12 am
John sounds like he's being paid by the prison guard unions. They don't care about the crushing debt that is suffocating all of us. Wow! is right on. Reduce salaries by 20-25% percent and go to a 401K. Wow! was tasing us with his joke about San Mateo and other Marxist outposts. A more practical solution would be to send the Mexican inmates back to Mexico where they came from. They make up over 40% percent of the California prison system. Get them outta here!!! See how they like spending their days in a Tijuana hoosegow.
Posted by Awfulfarter, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 25, 2011 at 9:20 am
The first thing that should be done is to deport all the prison inmates that are illegal aliens back to thier home countries, with the understanding that if they are caught again in this country they will be immediately executed. I know the execution part is fantasy because this state can't even get the 1000 people we have on death row executed, but that is what should be done.
How about putting the 30,000 that must be removed from prisons on chain gangs doing road repairs, working on farms, and other manual labor we supposedly need all the illegal aliens for?
How about fencing off an area in the desert and housing some of these prisoners in portable housing?
OK, now you left wing loons can post your outrage that someone would suggest these things for those poor, poor defenseless criminals.
Posted by resident , a resident of the Laguna Oaks neighborhood, on May 25, 2011 at 9:25 am
Wow, John, an intelligent comment in this thread. Congrats. The logic of most of these posts is nowhere to be found.
Also, republican presidents have appoint 5 of the 9 justices. Two by Reagan, one by George H.W. and two by George W. Three of your biggest heroes. If you consider it a liberal court, it is not the democrats fault blame your party. Oh, how inconvenient facts are!
Posted by resident, a resident of the Laguna Oaks neighborhood, on May 25, 2011 at 9:33 am
Oh, and before you start ranting about what a liberal I am, I am venomously opposed to unions and feel that pension control is imperative to the future of the country. Just look at the problem with facts and logic. You can't have it both ways. By the way I know quite a few republican public workers who are just thrilled with their pensions and not fighting at all to get rid of or lower them. You act like all public workers are democrats.
So lets advocate for the really solution..pension reform instead of firing all the people who protect us to lower cost. It is the system not the people that is the problem.
Posted by mooseturd, a resident of the Pleasanton Valley neighborhood, on May 25, 2011 at 9:44 am mooseturd is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
John, I have a solution. Nearly 2,000,000 of our labor force are unemployed and seeking work. What we do is give each person drawing unemployment a prisoner to house and feed. These of course are the perfect-gentlemen criminals. They can be shackled so as to not present a security risk. The job seeker can draw the $100/day cost of maintaining a prisoner in addition to his/her unemployment aid. To be fair they must turn the criminal over to the next person on the list after 60 days.
Posted by Rational Voter, a resident of the Charter Oaks neighborhood, on May 25, 2011 at 9:44 am
I sense a consensus if beginning to form here. Perhaps we don't need to be as extreme about 20-25 percent salary reduction. It might only have to be 10-15 percent if we send the Mexicans back. 40% of our prison population being illegal Mexicans is nothing to neighsay.
Busting the prison union goes without saying. Don't hold your breathe waiting for the Supreme Court to rule the union thugs unconstitutional.
Resident makes a factual point about the appointments and appointers. But the appointers had to get their guy past a liberal Congress so it doesn't almost count in some ways. And at least 3 of the 5 have turned into turncoats. Where are we on abortion and the traversity of gay marriage and the unstaunched flood of illegals?
Posted by Resident, a resident of the Laguna Oaks neighborhood, on May 25, 2011 at 10:20 am
Oh and here is another non-liberal comment. If the Supreme Court is going to tell us to release prisoners, they should also order the immediate deportation of the estimated 19,000 illegals in our state system which cost the state an estimated 1 billion a year. Analysis of the latest Census data indicates that California's illegal immigrant population is costing the state's taxpayers nearly $9 billion per year. We have to do something in this country about immigration reform. It is a federal problem that the state's taxpayers have to fund and live with.
Posted by Lee, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 25, 2011 at 10:44 am
Release this many prisoners? To where? Send all the illegals back to their country; make stiff penalties if they come back. Then send the rest to work camps. We need infrastructure projects: roads, bridge work, dams etc. They are being housed and fed, why not put them to work? They can be split up to different states to do the work that is badly needed nation wide. Our water systems are a mess. Start there.
Posted by Johnny boy, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on May 25, 2011 at 10:57 am
If they are paroled they will be released back to the county in which the commitment offense was committed. LA, Alameda, and Sacramento will get the brunt of the prisoners released based on inmate population.
Posted by Johnny boy, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on May 25, 2011 at 11:01 am
and not usually the city in which the offense took place so as to keep you away from the environment in which you did the deed so to speak. I got in a little trouble in the 70's in Fremont and when I was paroled I was encouraged to go to Livermore which I did. Same county different city.
Posted by Just Another American, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 25, 2011 at 11:21 am
@The point about sending the 19,000 illegals back. Typo? I think the number is closer to 190,000, at least.
At any rate, we can send them back but Mexico will just release them to the drug cartells and then they'll be back up here in a Tijuana miniuto. We have to firm up our borders to keep the alien criminals out. Fences are expensive but once you set the posts you don't have to do it again every year. They're a sustainable expense for the American taxpayer.
Border Patrol is another matter. Just because their supposed to know Spanish they get paid triple figure salaries and take away 1/4 million per year pensions? And most of them are Hispanics which is pretty ironic when you think about it. Sneak in, become a Border Patrol, and then retire in 20 years with a pension between 1/4 and 1/2 million dollars. All at the expense of genuine Americans.
Land mines needs to be considered as a serious option. Drones like they have in Afganistan. Put it to the vote if need be. Millions of people in this country are fed up with the crushing debt piled on top of us by the unfunded alien liabilities. Truth is, the politicians don't have the guts to do what it takes to seal off all the pours along our borders.