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what's happening to the old Nob Hill store?
Around Town, posted by puzzled, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 15, 2011 at 5:35 pm

I received a postcard in the mail yesterday stating that Walmart might be moving into the old Nob HIll store on Santa Rita. The postcard was from unnamed residents who are opposed to the move, and wanted others to lobby city council to issue a conditional use permit so that council could reject or approve any prospective tenant.

Has anyone heard anything about this?

I am puzzled that Walmart would even be interested in the property. It is much, much too small for a real Walmart, and there is one very close by, off Owens Drive near Kohls.

It would be great to attract some kind of teen-activity oriented business to that location. A Dave and Busters type place... or maybe a rehearsal and small performance space for bands and improv groups.

Any other ideas about what you'd like to see in the old Nob Hill store?

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Posted by Stacey, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Apr 15, 2011 at 7:59 pm
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I'd like to have seen more information about what is being proposed at the website listed on the postcard. I can't picture a Wal-Mart at the Nob Hill site so there must be more to the story.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Apr 15, 2011 at 8:07 pm
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Perhaps what is being considered for the old Nob Hill site is something like this: Web Link

"Speculation has Wal-Mart opening more of its Neighborhood Market grocery formats along with its smaller Marketside by Walmart concept. Typical Neighborhood Markets have run about 42,000 square-feet, but the company is testing smaller 20,000 square-foot versions in the Southwest, along with 10,000 square-foot Marketside stores, which are more akin to large convenience stores. The company is said to be looking at new locations in Chicago, Detroit, Los Angeles, Reno, Sacramento and the San Francisco Bay area. "

Kind of interesting because Tesco's Fresh & Easy just opened up this week.


Posted by lance, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Apr 15, 2011 at 9:26 pm

if something would move in that would be a great move. I know everyone hates anything Wal-mart related, but its a whole lot better than an abandoned building sitting there. It would be completely wrong for Pleasanton to reject a wal-mart grocery store, just because it is wal-mart. It would be really hard to argue that the city doesn't want a grocery store there even though there was one their before.


Posted by Foodie, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 15, 2011 at 9:42 pm

WalMart will not move into that space. It is too small a footprint for a WalMart store. Other retailers have looked into the space but I understand the rent is extremely high. Raley's who is the mother company of Nob Hill had many cut backs last year that included their corporate office in Sacramento. It was just part of the cut backs and not the only Nob Hill to close. With Fresh & Easy, Ranch 99, Sprouts coming to Dublin as well as Grocery Outlet...we have plenty of options. It would have been nice to see Trader Joe's go in that space but not an option any longer.


Posted by Surprised, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 15, 2011 at 10:33 pm

Yes, Trader Joes belongs in that location. Last year I thot WholeFoods was going in the field across from Mimi's Cafe. Trader Joes would be wise to leave that tight intersection and move to Nob Hill, for parking and dig deeper into Pleasanton.

after going back to Frash & Easy today, they aren't going to cut into TJs for me very much.


Posted by Vinelander, a resident of the Vineyard Avenue neighborhood, on Apr 16, 2011 at 7:57 am

It is my understanding that a smaller Walmart grocery store is moving into the space and that it is a done deal.


Posted by Yet Another Teacher, a member of the Hart Middle School community, on Apr 16, 2011 at 11:58 am

I'd like to see the Pleasanton Trader Joe's move into that location. Its current location has a very difficult parking situation--anybody who's shopped there knows what I'm talking about.


Posted by War with Walmart, a resident of the Pleasanton Meadows neighborhood, on Apr 16, 2011 at 12:20 pm

Walmart would not be able to change a thing at the existing store or other buildings, including the current city stipulated requirement that at that particular location in the city, stores cannot be open during the middle of the night.

The Pleasanton Meadows neighborhood worked with the developer of the site originally to have this stipulation be made part of the original permanent site restrictions.

If Walmart thinks they are going to open one of those 24 hour stores, they are out of luck. If they go to the city asking that 'the open during the middle of night restriction' be removed, that change is referendable and Pleasanton Meadows will collect signatures for a referendum. The existing Nob Hill borders multiple residences in the Pleasanton Meadows neighborhood.


Posted by annonymous, a resident of the Amador Estates neighborhood, on Apr 17, 2011 at 10:08 am

I know for certain (can't say how) that WalMart is definitely planning on opening a grocery store in this site.


Posted by Guest, a resident of another community, on Apr 17, 2011 at 11:35 am

I heard Trader Joe's is moving to that site- which they should! Pleasanton's is so small! I live in Walnut Creek and while this one isn't that much bigger, it's not as tiny and crowded as the one in Ptown.


Posted by Surprised, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 17, 2011 at 2:50 pm

Wow, withing a mile TJs, Fresh&Easy, and a small WalMart grocery ???? Not much reason for Safeway. Is that why they are going down to Bernal & 680 ??? Please don't tell me Valley & SR will be a ghost store ! !


Posted by unclehomerr.., a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Apr 17, 2011 at 4:27 pm

Yo, Surprised!!

You forgot Ranch 99 Market, and the expanded grocery section at CVS [Longs].

unclehomerr..


Posted by unclehomerr.., a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Apr 17, 2011 at 4:29 pm

Yo, LongTimeResident:

Did that post to Surprised surprise you????

unclehomerr..


Posted by researched, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 17, 2011 at 9:49 pm

There is NO application before the city on that site and no conversations with the city at that site by walmart or any subsidiary of walmart. not sure how this rumor got started...


Posted by Ellen, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Apr 18, 2011 at 11:45 am

Just called the city and ask them about this. This is not true. They have not received anything from Walmart nor have they even been contacted by them.


Posted by Jill, a resident of the Highland Oaks neighborhood, on Apr 20, 2011 at 8:44 am

I would be interested to know WHO sent the postcard saying that.

How on earth do these rumors get started anyway.

Why not just check with the city before making a post like this. That way the true facts would be used.


Posted by csc, a member of the Fairlands Elementary School community, on Jun 17, 2011 at 4:23 pm

Another flyer is being circulated today...door to door. It claims that Wal-Mart wants an additional store to the one on Owens. This was sent to me

However, as of JUNE 2011 THEY did submit a plan to the city AND the city is most likely going to approve it. This would not be good. I plan to move.

PLEASE WRITE TO AND SAY NO...or better yet, lets move on in their neighborhood and let them deal with it!!!!

To: Cheryl Cook-Kallio <ccook-kallio@ci.pleasanton.ca.us>

Cc: citycouncil@pleasanton.ca.us

I just wanted you to know that there have been no plans submitted to the city or

discussions of any kind concerning the Nob Hill site and WalMart. I heard a

rumor a number of months ago and checked on it and asked to be updated if

anything materialized and nothing has come forward.

I have seen the postcard and read the emails generated from the website and I am

not sure where the author got the information. Most importantly, one can not

discern who the sender of the postcard might be and therefore no citizen has the ability to check on the source or the accuracy of the information.

I am committed to an open and transparent dialogue. Like you, I live here and am concerned over issues facing all of us. Please contact the city or me personally if you EVER have questions about any city discussions or plans.

Thank you for taking the time to write.

Sincerely,

Cheryl Cook-Kallio

Vice-Mayor


Posted by csc, a resident of the Las Positas neighborhood, on Jun 17, 2011 at 4:58 pm

Here is the contact that is keeping an 'eye' on them. lets hope someone is getting the facts correct. It does not seem like our government is listening.

www.pleasanton.org


Posted by our city government lies~!, a resident of the Stoneridge neighborhood, on Jun 30, 2011 at 10:54 am

Dear Ms. Cuellar:

Thank you for your e-mail regarding a potential WalMart store on Santa Rita Road. The City has received an application to use the former Nob Hill location as a grocery store. The applicants have not indicated that it is a WalMart store, but we believe it is a new format for a small grocery owned by WalMart. We will evaluate the proposal when we receive the project description to determine whether or not it is consistent with the list of permitted uses and conditions of approval for this shopping center or if a Conditional Use Permit and public hearing would be required.

Thank you for your interest in the future of the City of Pleasanton.

Janice Stern, AICP

Planning Manager

City of Pleasanton

925-931-5606

Fax: 925-931-5483


Posted by Helen, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Jun 30, 2011 at 4:35 pm

I would love a Walmart store at that location. It would bring some tax revenue into the area and also help those small stores over there. The dry cleaners told me that without the traffic that Nob Hill provided they have no business and hope someone big like a grocery store moves in there.........go Walmart.


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