Driving around town Around Town, posted by Courtesy rules, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Dec 2, 2010 at 11:24 am
I'm always amazed by the rude behavior some drivers exhibit around town. Most are courteous, but when I encounter these displays of rudeness, it kind of makes one wonder... Today, I arrived at the intersection of Valley and Paseo Santa Cruz, where there's a four-way stop sign. I pulled into the left hand turn lane on Valley, with my left turn signal on. I waited at the stop sign for the car stopped across from me to proceed, then began my turn. The car that was behind the other car started honking at me as I made my U-turn (which the sign says IS allowed there), then sped past me on the left, still honking, even though I had arrived at the stop sign long before she had, since she was the second car in line behind the one that arrived at the stop sign across from me at the same time. Really nice way to start the day, Ms. Mercedes Sedan. She proceeded to tailgate other cars as she headed north on Hopyard. I hope she got wherever she was heading safely and had a better day after her coffee kicked in...
Posted by good driver, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Dec 2, 2010 at 8:46 pm
Maybe it wasn't about whose turn, but the frustration of watching or waiting on an incompetent U turner. So many are L turners, U's are smooth and rounded..,.to attain that, you gently roll forward , while at the same time crank your wheel. No turn can happen with your foot on the break. Roll and crank, crank, crank...smoother and faster. No L box turns. It's painful to be behind an L turner who thinks they'll just 'pivot' while standing still...it does not work that way. practice gently roll forward and cranking the wheel.
Rude drivers are disgusting...like parking a wheel ON a parking line...today had to try 7 spots, since I drive a whole car, but all the little sloppy RUDE parkers apparently do not know how to park, because they had tires ON the white line. they would fail the test...shouldn't have license.
Posted by Courtesy rules, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Dec 2, 2010 at 9:07 pm
Thanks for the tip, "good driver". I am also a "good driver" myself, having been driving 33 years, 60 miles a day to and from my job, and have never had one ticket, although I certainly don't slow-poke it along the highway. I just try to drive courteously, be observant, obey the rules of the road, even when moving along at a good 70+ clip. My high school driving instructor made very sure we knew how to whip out 3-point turns in 8 seconds, parallel park on the first try on both sides of the street AND execute U-turns without the slightest hesitation. He made it a challenge, and experience over the years has only honed those skills. I understand your frustration with less-than-competent U-turn maneuvers, and I don't take it personally that you assume that I am one of those folks!
Posted by Maria, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Dec 2, 2010 at 11:19 pm
I'm more concerned about impatient drivers vs. bicyclists and pedestrians. Big car>> little bicycle! There have been instances when it was MY TURN to cross on my bike (and yes, I use the crosswalks to avoid some of the hazards), signal and everything. People come whipping around the corners turning right and cut in front of me; I have almost fallen from my bike a couple of times. That isn't just dangerous, it's against the law; pedestrians ALWAYS have the right of way, and by extension that should apply to bikes.
It's frustrating. You can't expect the cops to hang around these spots waiting to catch people who do these kinds of things, but at the same time I just wish something more could be done. People will continue to drive like this as long as they know they won't get caught.
Posted by tire lines, a resident of the Mohr Park neighborhood, on Dec 3, 2010 at 8:46 am
Whats worse than the wheel on the parking line, is the people who take up two spots. While trying to park in an incredibly busy parking lot this last weekend. One car took up two parking spots, then just sat in there car. Now I do understand wanting to keep your car protected from others who don't car about others cars and ding there doors. I always park the furthest away from my destination so that I can avoid that issue. But taking up two parking spots especially on the weekend after Thanksgiving, is quite rude. Please people, if your worried about your car, then don't go out, or park as far away as possible. Others around you would appreciate that last parking spot available that you decided to take up.
Posted by Don, a member of the Harvest Park Middle School community, on Dec 3, 2010 at 9:27 am
I appreciate your comments & as a school crossing guard, I see many things during my work time that would amaze you. Impatient people do toot their horns a lot waiting for people to make the U turn on Valley. Every time someone toots their horn I jump, thinking a collision is about to happen. Most of the time it is because someone is over-cautious and will not turn or get into the traffic fast enough. I have seen cars sit for 5 mins. trying to merge or U-turn. My biggest complain and worry is people turning into the center of the street while I am crossing the children. This is very dangerous because if the car gets hit it could be pushed into the crosswalk. What we need is more police presence during the times the children are crossing and people need to SLOW DOWN.
Posted by Maja7, a resident of the Vintage Hills Elementary School neighborhood, on Dec 3, 2010 at 2:00 pm
I go to three schools in my morning routine & then again in the afternoon. I, like the crossing guard, feel like I've seen it all. Classic example,of rude/ignorant parent/driver.... double park their car (engine running) so they can run their child across the street to school and then, of course, they have to run back across the street to return to their car. Nevermind me I'll wait even though, I too have children to get to school. I'll wait for this morning ritual just to make your life easier (sarcastic). I absolutely LOVE when I see Pleasanton PD out around the schools in the morning or afternoon.I am not one to shy aware from using my horn it beats alot of other things I'd like to do and it's legal.
Wish I could say it's better during the holidays but you know, it's only worse. My Dad always told me "It's not you I worry about, it's the other drivers". I totally get that now.
Posted by Me Too, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Dec 3, 2010 at 8:29 pm
"What is the most dangerous, and beyond rude, are the drivers who turn their cars toward children in a crosswalk." What are the statistics of people who have turned their wheels and then been hit from behind resulting in injury to those in the crosswalk.
What makes you think this is the "most dangerous"? Cars that are pointed straight also have pedestrians in the crosswalk, should everyone turn their wheels to the right or something?
Yes, drivers should not be in the crosswalk while there are pedestrian whether turning a corner or not, but you seem a bit obsessed about this corner turning thing as I beleive you've posted a similar message a couple times before?
Posted by Lance, a resident of the Vineyard Hills neighborhood, on Dec 4, 2010 at 8:24 am
Message to Maria: Bicyclists are not pedestrians. Bikes are vewhicles generally subject to same rules of the road as motor vehicles. If you want to be treated as a pedestrian, get off your bike and push. As a bicyclist or pedestrian, however, keep your wits about you in traffic. You're right: car vs. bike, guess who wins every time?
Posted by Mary, a resident of the Del Prado neighborhood, on Dec 4, 2010 at 9:19 am
Another message to Maria and all bicyclists: As Lance says, Bikes are vehicles and should follow the rules of the road. If Maria did have her policemen watching intersections they would be arresting far more bicyclists than cars who do NOT bother to stop and check the traffic before zooming through their stop sign. I've had too many occasions where A cyclist will be behind me and then pass me on the right while I am making my left turn, because they simply did not stop (and are now passing!) They expect me to keep an eye on them so they are safe?!?
Posted by Mike, a resident of the Highland Oaks neighborhood, on Dec 5, 2010 at 3:24 pm
The problem is that people view the world from a self-centric perspective, seeing the situations they encounter moment by moment in terms of their convenience to themselves.
Everyone should adopt a more community-centric perspective: take a deep breath and realize that everyone is in a hurry and no one likes to be inconvenienced.
Living peacefully in a world with more than one person in it requires sacrifice; namely, allowing a few more minutes to do what we want or need to do as we rush to our final destination in the morning or evening.
If I'm late, it's more likely to be my fault than it is the drivers, bicyclists or pedestrians around me. So next time I honk my horn, please realize I'm honking at myself for being caught short rather than at you for being in my way.
Posted by nancy s., a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Dec 6, 2010 at 4:33 pm
@ Mike - Very well said. It really doesn't matter how long it took the original poster to make their U turn. It was THEIR turn at the four way stop and Ms. Mercedes should have waited her turn. Her time is no more important than anyone elses, and if she thinks it is, she is one of the many self centered, narcassitic assholes that are taking over the world. The problem continues if Ms. Mercedes has children, she probably isn't teaching them any manners (driving or other) either.