UCSF-letter-concerning-health-risks-of-full-body-scanner-TSA-screenings State, National, International, posted by Elizabeth, a resident of the Mohr Park neighborhood, on Dec 1, 2010 at 12:44 pm
I'm one of the lurkers on PW forums. I have no idea about the validity of this, but thought some of the more well read members of this forum might know something. It is being passed around FB and email lists. It seems to be an older story, so it might already be a dead horse.
Posted by Yemen, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Dec 1, 2010 at 2:09 pm
There are two different kinds of scanners, one uses radio waves, and seems to be harmless. The other uses x-rays. Of course they are supposed to be low dose x-rays, if the machine is working properly. The x-rays are absorbed by your skin.
There are two kind of machines only because the TSA wanted to have two companies in competition and make prices come down.
We could have had only the radio wave scanners.
Some of our elected officials have stock in the companies that make these scanners.
Only now, in 2010, are all passenger names being checked against the Do Not Fly list. This was not being done before.
Until just recently, the TSA required airlines to check the Do Not Fly list every 24 hours. Now it's every 2 hours. The names on the list could go to the airlines instantaneously, but our government doesn't want to pay for that technology.
The bombers and potential bombers have a lot in common. Why are we not profiling for these individuals? We'd rather have the TSA groping 4 year olds than profiling for terrorists, and we're all stupid enough to go along with this.
Posted by Maja7, a resident of the Vintage Hills Elementary School neighborhood, on Dec 1, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Why are we not profiling? I'll tell you why....political correctness. We are at a point in the society where "everything" must be measured against how it may or may not offend a culture or religion. As a Christian, I may be offended by someone or something (latest is the depiction of Jesus covered in ants; said to be ART)but I'm not going to act out against it.Until we get over this fear of offending other religions or cultures, we are only victimizing ourselves.
Posted by Kyle, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Dec 1, 2010 at 6:32 pm
I haven't met one person who's against profiling. It makes sense. The present situation does not make sense. This process of x- raying and groping every single American is inefficient and laughable. We know the demographics of the bombers.
Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin, on Dec 1, 2010 at 6:54 pm Janna is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
Are you actually talking about profiling Americans? That should go over well. All American citizens created equal unless you were born with a certain skin color that makes us think you're a terrorist. Huh?
How would that have worked out for finding Timothy McVeigh and Eric Rudolph? Would you have profiled them to be terrorists? Of course not.
Posted by Yemen, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Dec 1, 2010 at 11:37 pm
I'm talking about taking the characteristics, behavior patterns, gender, country of origin, history, etc. of all known terrorists who have bombed, high-jacked, or attempted to bomb our planes, and create a profile of this type. Then subject people who fit this profile to extra attention at airports.
Posted by Meredith, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Dec 2, 2010 at 8:35 am
Have you noticed that anytime the subject of profiling comes up that left-wing loons immediately inject "race" into the conversation. Of course, that fits with their general modus operendi to inject the race card at every opportunity, and in so doing are being racists. Sophisticated profiling for security has little to do with race.
Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin, on Dec 2, 2010 at 8:46 am Janna is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
If you can't answer as to how profiling, and yes it is racial, would have helped catch either of the two domestic terrorists I mentioned, that's okay, but don't tell me I am the one injecting race into it. That would be your side.
Posted by WHAT?, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Dec 2, 2010 at 9:24 am
Since when is profiling based on race? have you even travelled? I am talking outside the North/South American region. Profiling is a science based on human reaction to questions. It is a reading of body language, what a person does with their mouth, their eyes, their hands, feet, breathing patterns, etc. It requires extensive training and is very costly. The cost is the primary reason that the TSA doesn't do this. If you travel in Europe you will experience it. The experts are in Israel....it is quite an experience. Non-intrusive, but when you are done, you realize the implications of the questions. As a non-threat you have no reason to worry...if you are hiding something? They will figure is out very quickly. As in all things nothing is 100% BUT having said that, it is way more effective than the current situation here. My personal belief is that the TSA should buck up and get these people trained properly.
Posted by Beth, a resident of the Mohr Park neighborhood, on Dec 2, 2010 at 10:47 am
We should have the Israelis teach TSA how to make a secure airport. Of course that would make sense, and when in the last 100 years has anything the government done made sense. Personally, I've been boycotting any flights through America. Even drove cross country with kids to avoid it. Much easier to drive through the border into Canada and take a flight from there to Europe. At least I don't feel molested.
Posted by Lou, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Dec 2, 2010 at 10:41 pm
Meredith, you're really generalizing. I would probably be a person others would describe as 'liberal' and I am all for profiling for terrorists at airports. I don't care who it offends, it makes sense. I'm also against the death penalty, for abortion rights and for gay marriage.
Posted by Pleasanton Neighbor, a resident of the Castlewood neighborhood, on Dec 17, 2010 at 2:32 am
The actions of the TSA(DHS) are a disgrace to all that is great about America. I teach my children that no one is allowed to put their hands on their bodies, much less inside their underwear (yes, the TSA is really doing that). My father didn't enlist in WWII to end Nazi rule so we could create a police state here at home.
We need to return to a "no touch" policy at the airports: dogs-OK, GE-made puffer/sniffer machines-OK, metal detectors and wanding-OK. Forcing our families to be seen naked or have their breasts and or genitals touched by TSA...? Heck no. I'm thrilled to see so many rising up against this outrageous Orwellian nonesense! Write and tell the airline executives you won't fly and go to www.wewontfly.com Let's help them get a billboard up by SFO and OAK!
On profiling: many people in the middle-east are caucasian in appearance, so by definition, any profiling would have to be behavioral or country of origin-based, NOT race based.