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Both McNerney, Harmer in Washington as 11th Congressional District vote count continues

Original post made on Nov 16, 2010

Both 11th District Congressional candidates in the Nov. 2 General Election are now in Washington, D.C.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Tuesday, November 16, 2010, 8:50 AM

Comments (35)

Posted by michael marcuse, a resident of Danbury Park
on Nov 16, 2010 at 9:13 am

I'm very impressed by the balance achieved in this story. The story also shows much objectivity by providing a forum/ad/commerical for Harmer to request more money. Also impressive is the metaphor taken by Harmer's wife, and mother of four. It takes great intelligence and moral sensibility to compare a democratic election loss to a woman having her newborn baby taken from her. Bravo!

Posted by Pro-Law, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 16, 2010 at 9:46 am


I agree 100% about the balance in this article.

Posted by Walter, a resident of another community
on Nov 16, 2010 at 10:22 am

I would like to know who is paying for both of these people to fly back to DC, hotel, meals, etc... because the way I see it, right now the looser better be paying out of his own pocket... talk about GOVERNMENT WASTE!!!

Posted by kickthebumout, a resident of Harvest Park Middle School
on Nov 16, 2010 at 11:37 am

maybe they hitched a ride on pelosi's plane. i hear she has alot of room.

Posted by G. Marino, a resident of another community
on Nov 16, 2010 at 12:05 pm

So, "balanced", eh? Not a single quote from Rep. McNerney? I agree that this publication provided "ad space" for Harmer to plea for money for a recount effort. But how in the world is that "balanced". Perhaps in the Fox News sense ...

Sorry. I have nothing at all against Mr. Harmer; in fact, he seems like he would be a fine congressman, and I do think having solid republican representatives in the House (not idiots ... Ms. Bachmann from MN comes to mind) is a good thing. I'm just saying that I don't see the balance here in this article, so let's not pretend that.

Posted by herbert horkheimer, a resident of Downtown
on Nov 16, 2010 at 12:24 pm

yes, 'balance'. dominated by harmer's and his wife's quotes. free advertising provided to the failed harmer political campaign. an unbelievably insensitive set of remarks by the wife, counterposed with her husband's platitudinous references to the founding fathers. yes, absolutely. reads balanced to me and all my friends in glenn beck world. i wonder, by the way, what john quincy adams would have had to say about carpetbaggers, seeking to represent the 11th district while not being a resident of that district?

Posted by reality check, a resident of Danville
on Nov 16, 2010 at 12:24 pm

Uh, folks? Marcuse was being sarcastic in his first post. If you can't see that.....

Posted by I've seen Valley and Hopyard during elections, a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Nov 16, 2010 at 12:39 pm

Reality Check,

Thanks for the shot to the head, I confess to taking it at face value. Pleasanton has been a special place, with the ascendancy of the Tea Party. No opinion, as long as it is derived, is beyond logic.

Posted by max benjamin, a resident of Dublin
on Nov 16, 2010 at 1:15 pm

Yep, the article offers yet another fine example of that darned liberal media at work. It is rather amazing how the myth prevails, no?

Posted by Eric Benjamin, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 16, 2010 at 3:33 pm

G. Marino,
Since the Republicans have marched virtually in lock-step since 1994, I'm wondering what possible differences you might care to point out between Harmer and Michelle Bachman. In doing so, please consider how Harmer has floated the idea of privatizing schools, and how he's gone on record saying that a progressive income tax is a communist idea -- and then lying about how the idea of a progressive income tax is advocated in Marx's Communist Manifesto. Is this your idea of a 'solid Republican'?

Posted by Chet, a resident of San Ramon
on Nov 16, 2010 at 6:08 pm

Harmer is on a junket wasting GOPers money. Harmer does not seem to understand that the percentage he is behind has not changed so as they count more votes he is falling further behind or picking up a very small number of votes.

This afternoon Nov 16th from the State of California

*Jerry McNerney (Dem) 111,338
David Harmer (Rep) 109,581

Harmer is now losing by 1757. It is not possible with the votes that are not counted for Harmer to make us this difference.

Posted by Bugs Bunny, a resident of Happy Valley
on Nov 16, 2010 at 8:37 pm

What a bunch of maroons.

There's a quote in there from Jerry: "The lead is insurmountable". Haha, with thousands of votes left to count. He's likely correct but an idiotic statement from someone who should know better.

Posted by Educated, a resident of Foothill High School
on Nov 17, 2010 at 9:18 am

Pleasanton Weekly endorsed McNerney. They have given him TONS of coverage. This article makes up just a miniscule amount for all of that.

BTW, I don't see any quotes from Harmer's wife, who by the way is an amazing person in her own right. Perhaps PW succombed to the pressure in the comments and edited the article???

Posted by walter fromm, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 17, 2010 at 10:26 am

Yes, Harmer's wife's insensitive remarks, which suggested a deficient moral perspective, have since been edited out of the article -- this for the protection of? More news objectivity at work!

Posted by Steve, a resident of Dublin
on Nov 17, 2010 at 11:01 am

In an "anyone but a democrat" climate, Harmer still can't win. Maybe Harmer should take it as an indication that he's just not very likable.

Posted by John, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 17, 2010 at 12:34 pm

Well, it does appear to be a clear plurality of conservative votes if you throw in those for Christensen (You could say the same thing about the 2000 presidential election if you piled Nader's votes on top of Al Gore's). But that's how things work out in three-way races. Ranked Choice might have made a difference, too. McNerney's statement about the insurmountable lead is simply mathematics from a man trained as a mathmetician. He knows whereof he speaks. In any case, he returns to Washington in a changed climate (so to speak). His opportunities to do what he has done so far for his district are likely to be regularly stymied by the Republican majority. His middle-of-the-road attitude, though, I think suits this district quite well. I wish him well in DC.

Posted by Researcher, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 17, 2010 at 12:35 pm

For the previous version of the story with the comments noted above, check here:
Web Link

Posted by PJ, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 17, 2010 at 3:41 pm

I was hoping McNerney would not win this one. He wants to shut down or make it very hard for us to do business in Livermore. I work at the lab and he really wants us out of here. What he doesn't realize is that we have many alternative energy projects that will revolutionize the energy industry. Unfortunately for us there is no money in it for him, and therefore he doesn't want us around.

Posted by Chet, a resident of San Ramon
on Nov 17, 2010 at 5:27 pm

Today's vote count reported by the State of Calif. McNerney is keeping his lead and it is not possible for Harmer to win.

Jerry McNerney (Dem) 111,338
David Harmer (Rep) 109,581

Posted by Lisa, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 17, 2010 at 9:43 pm

Reality Check...I think people were agreeing...if you can see that.

Sometimes it should be called the Pleasanton Weakly.

Posted by dublinmike, a resident of Dublin
on Nov 17, 2010 at 10:13 pm

dublinmike is a registered user.

Lisa, a resident of the Another Pleasanton states "should be called the Pleasanton Weakly" Okay, so why don't you establish your own blog/website and show us how it's really done? Create an environment for expression of thought, then deal with the reality that some don't agree with your forum.

Educated, PW gives him "tons of coverage". Duh, he's our Representative?

PJ, "make it very hard for us to do business in Livermore." Really? Strange, I spoke to him and he recognizes that alternative sources of energy are necessary.

But, you did not mention what these "alternative" sources are. Since you work at the Lab, are you referring to nuclear? Are you referring to solar? Please clarify.

Posted by joan, a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Nov 18, 2010 at 9:45 am

If Mcnerney wins it is not a overwhelming victory for him I HOPE HE GETS THE MESSAGE THAT HE IS REPRESENTING THE 11THE DISTRICT AND NOT PELOSI OR OBAMA.

Posted by Chet, a resident of San Ramon
on Nov 18, 2010 at 11:16 am

New election results today 11-18. Same percentage lead for McNerney leading today by 1783 votes. It is not possible for Harmer to win.

Posted by Voter, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 18, 2010 at 11:25 am

Does anyone else see a long protracted recount and court battle coming up? I notice there's been no update to the story of the GOP going to court to get their "observers" to watch the counting. I wonder if they still believe there are "irregularities"?

Posted by citizen, a resident of another community
on Nov 18, 2010 at 12:11 pm

Haven't heard yet if ACORN was behind alleged (no specifics) irregularities. We'll have to wait and get the scoop from FOX news. Meanwhile, if Harmer has enough campaign funds left over for junket to DC (family along, too?), he'll surely have enough money to force a recount. And if he doesn't, perhaps a FOX news report on ACORN will provide motivation for true patriots to donate to the cause.

Posted by a, a resident of Dublin
on Nov 18, 2010 at 1:00 pm

Let me break it down for all of you....

Jerry Brown/McNerney/Most of CA - Bought by public unions
CA - 500 BILLION dollars in the hole just to public union pensions
500 BILLION - you and I nor our kids can pay this off
Unions and their pension policy - fleecing tax paying, private sector working Americans
Union Power - No politician from CA can ever do anything about this.
CA - Going down.
Me - Participating in the CA exodus.

Posted by joan, a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Nov 18, 2010 at 1:26 pm


Posted by PatrioticResistance, a resident of another community
on Nov 18, 2010 at 2:51 pm

It seems that the people of this 11th District are needing to acknowledge the power in McNerney's efforts to overcome former incubant, Richard Pombo! It is still active because this challenger, David Harmer, has put up a fair measure for a rally.

If their is one thing which hindered McNerney's race this campaign it was that he broke only one promise from his previous platform: that on keeping spending limited, he turned around and voted for very expensive military technology. Whether or not it was necessary, such as quickly exiting from Iraq or accelerating the advantage against Al Qaida, is not so important except having to acknowledge that he has had increased dramatically the spending by voting for one issue alone!

As for shutting down some of the Livermore Labs projects, I am inclined to say that this nation has been digging a hole it cannot get out of by conducting experiments upon anti-matter! Yes, alternative energy is neccessary if you would consider a paraphrase from the Mentinah Archives of the Nemenhah Records: it states that wen the M.A. comes out before the public in the gentiles' language(English), then is when a great calamity commences and then is when a very large drought begins, one so large that it shall effect everywhere from the great plains into the desert mountains and unto the Pacific ocean. It states that it shall get so bad regarding the agriculture in Utah that many of its residents shall move out to somewhere else!

What I feel is the biggest requirement from the apparent winner, Jerry McNerney, is how he shall respond to the need to confront Mr. Obama about the factual Kenyan birth certificate which was finally put online but 34 days ago! People of the 11th District where are your ethical values hidden about Barack Hussein Obama lieing unto every voter and unto the news reporters althroughout his campaigns for public office regarding his eligibility for serving as the Chief Executive of the USA?

Now, I've written to the Honorable Conressman McNerney and he is apparently trying to turn a blind eye against the Americans' right to have a Presidential representative who actuall has the same feelings as ourselves! That is why it is written up in the Constitution of the USA, the qualifying laws for an individual to serve as the Chief Executive, so that we the people can have someone of ourselves representing our feeling and values.

Mr. Obama may be a descendant of Anglo-Americans but he is not born here, here may have Indonesian citizenship disqualifying him from serving in public office, and his mother could not have legally qualifyied him since it was necessary for B.H. Obama to have waited until after his mother's 19th birthday for paperwork to process according to the laws of the land at that time(5 years after her 14th birthday)! Yet, Obama's falsified [Supplemental Birth Certificate] was constructed upon the date of his birth rather than after his mother's 19th birthday; and, it was probably peformed by his communist maternal-grandfather!

Mr. Jerry McNerney, how are you going to act because until now you have been ignoring the fact! Also, consider how close to an upset you have nearly become defeated by the challenger.
Representative McNerney, you need to wake up and give truth a chance before this all turns upon your head. Amen. Amen. Amen.

Posted by michael b dykle, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 18, 2010 at 4:44 pm

Fortunately, big corporate bucks cannot find enough of the ilk of PatrioticResistance to do their bidding. Thank god for public education, which reduces the degree of such zaniness. Unfortunately, misguided souls want to blame unionized workers because they've succeeded in negotiating relatively decent wages for themselves and their families. Unionized workers have worked hard and fought hard for their successes. Maybe hard-working private sector workers (as in Dublin above) should think about unionizing themselves instead of stewing in resentment. Workers shouldn't be directing their anger at other workers. Top 1% of U.S. wealth owns over 20% of economic pie. The likes of Judge Judy makes $40 million+ per year, and some joker wants to begrudge unionized workers who make less than $100 grand? You've got to be kidding me. Did you notice how much Harmer was making before he was let go and he began collecting unemployment benefits? Sheesh!

Posted by Johnny, a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Nov 18, 2010 at 8:22 pm

Hey, Tea Partiers: Take heart. You may well have carried the election night results. It's the vote-by-mail and provisional ballots that are swinging the results. Why? Because many "Tea Partiers" are new to voting, so the simply showed up at the polls. More experienced voters often vote absentee; it would appear that the latter are making the difference.

Posted by Barry, a resident of San Ramon
on Nov 19, 2010 at 5:38 pm

Harmer is now a two time loser. Love it.

Posted by Donna, a resident of San Ramon
on Nov 19, 2010 at 7:23 pm

No surprise here. California is the only state that continues to vote the liberal/progressive agenda despite the fact that it has driven this state into dire straits. Why ??? I have come to the conclusion that we have become a state of entitlements; freeloaders with the union mentality of working as little as possible while taking as much as possible. Barry from San Ramon, be careful, you are going to get what you wish for and Michael Dykle from Livermore, you are totally deluded and a wonderful example of the union mentality. Gimme, gimme, gimme mine. After I take my break that my union says I am entitled to, after working for 2 long hours . Pathetic.

Posted by joe hill, a resident of Dublin
on Nov 20, 2010 at 2:16 am

Right, Donna, on your logic, it appears CEO's should get even more than they do, and workers desiring a home to rest in, a car to get to work in, and food and clothing for their families should take less. Yup, you sure seem to have your priorities straight! Blame workers while Mr. and Mrs. Moneybags claim to be middle class -- just like you and me -- while stuffing their off-shore bank accounts. Oh,yes, and no more breaks for workers! That's what the Founding Fathers would have wanted, right?

Posted by Livermore or less, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 21, 2010 at 1:40 pm

Where on earth do these folks like the one quoted here below get their "facts"? (I think I can guess it is a dark an warm place). I also work at the Lab and I volunteered for the Congressman in his re-election bid and I know for a fact he treasures the Livermore Lab being in the 11th district. He knows like the rest of us that the Lab contributes mightily to local employment and the security of the Nation. He also is a former businessman himself and really understands the struggles and value of local business. He also understands the need for working people to have labor and consumer protections.

We can and should have these things along with vibrant business and the two are not incompatible. Look at Canada: They have a relatively healthy business climate, lower unemployment (8%, thank you), and health insurance based on citizenship rather than the right employment or ability to pay. Nobody goes bankrupt in Canada because their kid gets sick. They also have a work force that is 40% unionized as opposed to our pitiful 7%. Eight per cent unemployment.


"I was hoping McNerney would not win this one. He wants to shut down or make it very hard for us to do business in Livermore. I work at the lab and he really wants us out of here. What he doesn't realize is that we have many alternative energy projects that will revolutionize the energy industry. Unfortunately for us there is no money in it for him, and therefore he doesn't want us around."

Posted by Awwwwwwwwww, a resident of Downtown
on Nov 21, 2010 at 6:20 pm

Livermore or less,

Hold on a little bit here about the Canadian thing because I just came back after living there for 8 years and some of what you said needs correcting. Canada depends heavily on exports to the US. 76% of their economy is based on exports to US. The corporate tax rate in Canada is only 22% compared to 39% in the US therefore it is better for business to operate in Canada than the US. Canada has tort reform meaning you cannot sue your doctor and reap huge rewards, why? because they government of taxpayers in Canada pay for it. In Canada you only get fundamental medical insurance but no vision nor dental. Companies have to go out and buy insurance because what is offered by the government is very lacking. If you have kids who need shots they have what you want but if you are really sick, have cancer, need a PSA test, heart, kidney, liver transplant you are cooked and will just be given pain medication until you die. It is not out of the ordinary to wait 6 months or longer for a MRI. These are many of the reasons why private health providers are springing up in Canada. Most of the people in unions in Canada are in the government and the debt going forward is a huge concern for them. Less than half of the current Canadians were born there and the growth is from Asia and the middle east.

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