Posted by Ty, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Oct 19, 2010 at 9:23 am
"Several thousand attended the Pleasanton-NorCal Tea Party's Golden State Rally for America"
Who said several thousand people attended? Sounds like you got that number from the Bridget Melson hype machine. Not only did the Pleasanton PD say only around 200 people came, but the photos don't suggest "several thousand people showed up".
Posted by Mike, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Oct 19, 2010 at 10:26 am
There were definitely more than 200 people there, but that's also not factoring in the fact that people were continually arriving and leaving throughout the day. In other words, some people showed up for just the morning while others were there in the afternoon. Overall, there were well over 200 people in attendance throughout the day.
Posted by Compressed, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Oct 19, 2010 at 2:23 pm
....not a tea partier and was not at this event. However, anything that spread out is not good. Should have been compressed for just several hours, at most. People aren't going to come, not knowing WHEN their "favorite" was going to speak. They might come for an hour most, overlapping their favarite. Once you've done an all dayer, probably won't do that again for a year or two.
Posted by markm8128, a resident of another community, on Oct 19, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Now that Harmer has come out in favor of abolishing public schools, I think he will be losing ground rapidly. Because he won the Republican nomination, many people have not, yet, realized that he is not a mainstream Repiblican...but represents an extremist fringe group.
These people want to abolish Social Security and Medicare...some of the most solidly popular programs in America. Nothing is more amazing, than hearing Tea Party people come out in support of the Big Oil companies, who threw out all of the safety regulations...resulting in the biggest ecological disaster in American history, along the Gulf.
Anyone who has followed the Tea Party movement, from the beginning, knows that it has been fueled by a high degree of racism. I have yet to hear this group come up with answers to any problem, and I have yet to hear of any economist...whether conservative or liberal...who agrees with their silly ideological view of the economy.
Posted by Mary, a resident of the Country Fair neighborhood, on Oct 19, 2010 at 8:19 pm
Does it make you feel good to call people names or is it a way of communicating in the liberal world? I do not mean that to be disparaging but seem to detect that when impossible to express themselves with words people tend to resort to calling others names.
Posted by Mike, a resident of the Del Prado neighborhood, on Oct 19, 2010 at 8:43 pm
Bye bye McNutty. When you're defeated you can go back to your 'Windmill' company. You know the one where you never made any money. You are a farce and a disgrace to Congress just like all of the other Progressive Liberal traitors both Demoncat and Republican alike.
Posted by Seniors against hate, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Oct 19, 2010 at 9:11 pm
Electing a candidate who supports the values of the tea party (segregation, racism, prejudice, and homophobic) is frightning. These values have no place in our nations government. Our fore fathers would be turning over in their graves to hear their historic achievements now being hijacked by a group of people who are opposite of what they had hoped for this country.
If these types of politicians are in our future, the level of protest and rally will well outnumber the measly attendance at the fairgrounds. We can not go back to the times where the civil rights of our fellow citizens were taken away by rich white men. We have control of that now- it is in each of our rights to vote on Nov. 2. Vote to stop this madness.
Posted by I Don't Watch Fox (Faux) News, a resident of Dublin, on Oct 19, 2010 at 10:46 pm
On November 2, the Democrats will roar back with a reality check that this election can't be bought, stolen or Tea Partied into stupidity. One sentence sound bites and one liners only appeal to those who don't think critically. The Tea Party Hooligans, need to get off the "Herb" and smell the coffee. Social Security, 401Ks and Health Care needs to be protected for the people, by the people -- not the corporations who have hijacked the GOP and the blinded angry Tea Party for their own selfish-greedy-immoral-monetary gains. CHARITY is a good quality and value that many Democrats willing embrace for their countrymen, neighbors, citizens and non-Democrats. Sure, the government is bloated, sure the unions dominate in politics, yet the Tea Party doesn't recognize that Corporations influence politics, too. They're more convert about their political dealings and contributions. Take MONEY out of politics and we'll see change in this country benefiting all Americans, our way of life and the pursuit of happiness. There's more middle ground in this country, than the Democrats or the GOP want to admit.
Posted by Resident, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Oct 20, 2010 at 8:28 am
Fiorina endorsed Palin back in 2008. That is enough for me to NOT vote for Fiorina! Tea party members may have a point (democrats are not doing a good job and the deficit is out of control plus unemployment keeps growing), but being an extreme person is not going to help, it can only make things worse.
I was hoping for middle of the road republicans, but Harmer and Fiorina are simply extreme, and will not get my vote. I am an independent and I voted for Bush (sadly) and then Obama (yikes!) and I am so tired of always having to vote for the lesser of two evils, but this election will be that way, and Boxer and Mcnerney will be elected again not because they are good, but because the alternative is awful.
Posted by susan, a resident of the Pleasanton Valley neighborhood, on Oct 20, 2010 at 8:57 am
mcnerney is the worse congressman this district has ever had. HE VOTED FOR STIMULUS, OBAMACARE AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE LOSS OF JOBS IN CALIFORNIA. WE NEED TO DEFEAT HIM, AS OUR HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS GO UP, AND OUR SERVICES GO DOWN. HE VOTED FOR A 500 BILLION DOLLAR DECREASE IN MEDICARE SERVICES. VOTE FOR HARMER!
Posted by Dominic, a resident of the Del Prado neighborhood, on Oct 20, 2010 at 9:01 am
I continue to be astonished by individuals who are influenced by others such as the media do their thinking for them and continue to have prejudice against anyone who claims to identify themselves as Republican...Harmer will beat McNerney who has not been good for our community, state or nation and primarily votes like sheep following the Obama / Pelosi agenda - as he has done so 96% of the time...
If you believe BIG Oil is so bad, let me remind you that they employ many people in our great country and the largest american oil company pays more taxes than all of our citizens combined...ObamaCare and continuing to grow the Dept of Education with money are simply failed nanny state programs...we pour more money per student into public education than most countries yet the performance of our students academically is dismal by comparison.
The time has come to upgrade the representation we send to Washington...Harmer, Fiorina, Whitman, and other republican candidates stand for values more closely related to those values our country was founded upon and which greatness was accomplished...This same statement cannot be made for McNerney, Brown, Boxer whose main agenda is to grow government by having the people falsely believe that this in some way helps the indidual...
Dennis Prager is correct in his assertion, "The bigger the government, the smaller the individual."
Posted by Resident, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Oct 20, 2010 at 9:57 am
So you do not like national healthcare (neither do I), but you also complain about a decrease in medicare? You cannot have it both ways. Medicare is also a government run healthcare, so if you are against that, you need to also be willing to do away with Medicare.
It is like Harmer saying he wants to reform social security without stopping payments to current recipients. Well, that means future generations will not enjoy the benefits of social security but today they will have to continue to pay so the older folks continue to enjoy their monthly benefits.
You either want the government involved (leave social security alone and embrace national healthcare) or you do not (end social security and medicare NOW). You cannot have it both ways.
Posted by I was there, a resident of the Canyon Oaks neighborhood, on Oct 20, 2010 at 10:01 am
I attended much of the Tea Party event. There were considerably more than 200 people present at all times, and people did come and go throughout the 8 hour event. When we came back at the close to pick up things, there were close to 200 cars still in the general parking lot for the event. As I watched people come and go over the first five hours (before some of the prime speakers), I would say that the numbers sitting in front of the stage probably peaked at several hundred. Another hundred were milling about the many booths and the open area. I did notice many senior citizens, but I also saw lots of middle age folks and younger, and a few teenagers.
My wife and I were at the event to staff the Pacific Justice Institute booth, handing out information and talking to lots and lots of people. This group is not a political organization, and only exists to provide free legal services to Christians suffering discrimination by the institutions of our country. I was surprised at the number of people who were aware of the horrible discrimination against Christians that routinely goes on in tax-payer funded government/public schools, by local governments, by Child Protective Services, and even in the work place. It is scary how the first amendment of the constitution doesn't seem to exist anymore, at least for Christians.
Posted by Resident, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Oct 20, 2010 at 10:03 am
"Dennis Prager is correct in his assertion, "The bigger the government, the smaller the individual.""
Then that means that abortion should be left up to the individual, right? Yet Fiorina said a while back that she would vote to make abortion illegal. Which is it? Do you want government or not? If not, then leave issues such as abortion up to each person.
Republicans contradict themselves. They do not want big government, yet they want to make abortion illegal, continue medicare for those receiving it (seniors are a big voting portion), etc
Posted by Resident, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Oct 20, 2010 at 10:09 am
"I was surprised at the number of people who were aware of the horrible discrimination against Christians that routinely goes on in tax-payer funded government/public schools"
I have not seen this. In fact, one of the PUSD elementary schools have an after school club (which uses a room at the school and email lists from the room moms) which is a club where kids are taught the Bible. I don't see anything wrong with it, but I fail to see where there is discrimination against Christians. It is the only club of that nature at that school, by the way. It is a Christian club. It then moves to a middle school where meetings are held at lunch time (nothing wrong, but again I fail to see discrimination against Christians)
Posted by b, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Oct 20, 2010 at 10:46 am
Our forefathers owned slaves, didn't allow women to vote, sustained strict divisions between social and economic classes, etc. Our forefathers did a great thing by forming our country, but the Tea Party is deeply misguided to celebrate their values and advocate returning to them. As a nation, we need to move forward, not backward.
Posted by I Don't Watch Fox (Faux) News, a resident of Dublin, on Oct 20, 2010 at 11:21 am
I'm voting for Congressman McNerney again because I think a Health care system available to all its citizens should be a right and a privilege. We can't call our country civilized until it takes care of its own citizen's health, keep in mind we are one of the very last industrialized nations who doesn't! It's immoral otherwise. This stimulus package demonized by the GOP was first initiated by the Bush Administration with no regulations, oversight or conditions on future waste and fraud from Corporations. Instead, many corporations are hoarding this stimulus money for mergers and acquisitions even when they are making record profits. They aren't hiring, instead they are buying up competitors. In Econ 101, I remember that one way to grow our economy is when one or all of these three sectors purchase and in this order: Consumers, Businesses or Government. Consumers and businesses aren't spending, so it's up to the government to jump start the cycle of our "free market" with public works that indirectly starts the hiring cycle which begins the spending cycle. Sometimes, there are forces deliberately stalling the growth of this economy while hoping to sabotage gallant efforts by President Obama. This economic mess was handled to President Obama by George W. Bush who was asleep at the wheel on 9/11 AND our economy rapdily slipping into a great depression. Recognize that or not, that is the reality.
I wish some on this board who are frustrated or just hate to hate know that many Democrats are fed up with all levels of government and how public employees (federal, state, county and city) feed from the public trough (tax payers money.) The GOP may blame the unions for all it's ills while doing the bidding for Corporations who really identify with the GOP Party. Yet, one needs to remember that Corporations steal tax payers monies with over billing, one example is Halliburton. Yet, one can be sure there are hundreds if not thousands of other examples that can be cited here.
The citizens of the USA should have safeguards and a safety net towards their retirement and on health matters and I don't see the GOP Party sharing that perspective. Please consider voting for Congressman McNerney.
Posted by Able, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Oct 20, 2010 at 1:37 pm
I Don't Watch Fox wrote: "...Please consider voting for Congressman McNerney."
Not based on your faux facts.
Are you getting tarp and the stimulus mixed up? Why are companies left and right getting exemptions from Obamacare? Why is the government now saying in court that Obamacare is not a mandate but is a taxation? Aren't other countries having difficulties, protests and even violence (Greece, France, etc.: the peaceful forces of the left at it again) because of this cradle to the grave mentality of government care that has ballooned beyond any rationale or sustainability? What are their unemployment rates? What were their unemployment rates even before the current recession? Do these overly socialized countries have better economies than us? Have they had better economies than us? Is their productivity better? Has their business development and innovation been better? Are their citizens inclined to get off the public funds or inclined to stay on them? Weren’t Democrats the majority in congress before President Obama took office? And more and more and more…
Posted by 20 yr resident, a resident of the Old Towne neighborhood, on Oct 20, 2010 at 3:43 pm
I wonder exactly where a lot of you get your information. I also wonder what part of the Constitution you have read if any. Republicans and Democrats alike are spending our children and their children and their children into oblivion we have over $13 T of debt when you take into account the non-budget items like Medicare and Social Security which we 'borrow' from to pay our interest payments to China and S. Korea. So regardless of affiliation if you don't research your candidate you are the problem. Privatizing Social Security -- Please, read what was actually submitted as a plan -- less than 5% of SS would be privatized (ie under your control) heaven forbid that I should be able to control any of my money and by the way it was an opt in program so people who were too lazy to research anything could let the government continue to borrow their money with no interest. As for Health Care -- it really doesn't matter what any of you think specifically this is not constitutional. I wonder how many of you understand that our right to bear arms is to protect us from a tyrannical government not to shoot thieves. The US is the land of Opportunity not a land of guarantees. Remember what a Great Man (Thomas Jefferson) once said - a Government large enough to give you everything you want is strong enough to take everything you have and with little exception since Woodrow Wilson that is exactly what they have done. Vote the Constitution and the country and state have a chance, vote your conscious and we are doomed to continue the path of failure we travel down now.
Posted by Right here, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Oct 21, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Many of us have been here all along, complaining about an intrusive and fiscally irresponsible government for many years...through Republican and Democrat leadership. Do you think the Tea Party movement just materialized out of thin air? Either you have a short memory or you weren't paying attention if you don't think the Bush-era spending and bailouts weren't criticized by fiscal conservatives. Obama and the Dems escalated those same failures to a level that made many people wake up. Unfortunately you and your fellow travelers have chosen to defend your brand of politician with cries of "hate" and "racism". Good luck, friend.
Posted by b, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Oct 22, 2010 at 1:19 pm
I only cry "hate" or "racism" when I see actual indications of such. I've seen photos from previous Pleasanton Tea Party events, posted right here on PleasantonWeekly.com, where there actually were racist and hateful signs. Isn't it fair to call that racism and hate?
Quite frankly, I think that's a distraction. I think most Tea Partiers are well-intentioned, but misguided.
For my part, I am saddened that we are the only remaining civilized nation that doesn't ensure affordable healthcare for all our citizens. That's just barbaric, and certainly not consistent with Christ's teachings.
I also believe (as do most economists) that some level of deficit spending by the Federal government during recessions is healthy economic policy. That money doesn't just disappear into a black hole (unless the military drops a bomb on Iraq, which actually does go into a black hole). Rather, that money goes right back into the pockets of millions of Americans via government spending and the tax cuts that Congress and Obama gave you and me.
Maintaining and upgrading infrastructure has to be done at some point anyways. If you do it during a recession, it costs less (construction companies bid more competitively when they're desperate for work) and saves the jobs of construction workers who would otherwise be laid off. Federal stimulus funds have saved the jobs of Pleasanton teachers who were going to be laid off, and kept many cities and states out of bankruptcy. The effects of those layoffs and bankruptcies in the midst of this recession would have been far more devastating than having to later pay off this debt at minuscule interest rates.
Speaking of deficits, have you seen what the military spends on musicians? Go ahead, look it up. I don't understand why the military's budget is untouchable.
Posted by Marcia, a resident of another community, on Oct 25, 2010 at 10:03 am
Tea Party Patriot: "Not racist, not violent. Just no longer silent."
It is human nature to fear the unknown. I suggest to most of you above contributors to take time to get to know what the majority Tea Party enthusiasts are all about.
It's quite simply to bring back logic, common sense and fiscal responsibility to our country. To come back to the middle. Yes, most Patriots are just right of center but many are just left of center as well.
Few seem to realize that due to lack of these "traits", we Americans are getting more and more into the mindset that breeds socialism through accepting government bailouts and services (ObamaCare). That's where the government takes over the majority of our 'needs' but ..... it will be at a cost! To do this, it will take more than 50% of your hard earned money while taking away the drive to succeed. Research any socialistic country and you will find this. Sweden comes to mind as it costs 55% (last checked) of working Swedes money to support their government programs and not that well (ie, healthcare)!
Is this what you want? Tea Partiers see this coming and we can no longer stay silent. (What has happened in the last two years in our country is frightening!) To characterize us as racist, homophobes, etc is just (your) fears of the unknown coming out in what I see as a commonality of today's people and their lack of class.
Posted by Stacey, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Oct 25, 2010 at 10:31 am Stacey is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
I hear what you're saying regarding fear of the unknown and lack of class. As you point out, it is human nature. That's why we can see it coming from both sides of the debate. Danville Mayor Mike Doyle was wholly within rights to speak up about the lack of class from those who didn't like that he endorsed McNerney. Would that our public discourse weren't so vitriolic, but each and every one of us fosters it.