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One in Seven Americans Living in Poverty-Wake up Pleasantonians

Original post made by What a Shame on Sep 17, 2010

This topic is not a GOP or Dem bashing platform, it's a wake up call.

1 in 7 Americans in poverty in 2009, census says

September 17, 2010 Chicago Sun

A report Thursday showing that the ranks of the working-age poor in this country have climbed to the highest level since the 1960s came as no surprise to those who assist the poor in the Chicago area.

In 2009, the Census Bureau said, the overall poverty rate hit 14.3 percent -- or one in seven Americans -- with 43.6 million people living in poverty. That was up from 39.8 million, or 13.2 percent, in 2008. The 2009 poverty level was set at $21,954 for a family of four.

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Posted by What a Shame, a resident of Carlton Oaks
on Sep 17, 2010 at 2:43 am

Two Views

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Posted by Jerry, a resident of Apperson Ridge
on Sep 17, 2010 at 10:14 am

I take a look around town and still see 6 in 7 people driving fancy cars, playing with iphones/ipads, flashing LV bags and Rolex watches, and/or sipping on $4 Latte. What poverty???

Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Sep 17, 2010 at 2:01 pm

Janna is a registered user.


I'm pretty sure you missed the point. What a Shame was saying that people living in Pleasanton should notice what's around them outside of Pleasanton. Actually, now I think you made his point. Congrats!

Posted by Dana, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 17, 2010 at 4:24 pm

Democrats are definitely not happy with 1 out of 7 in poverty.

Their goal is to have at least 5 out of 7 living in poverty...with the 2 remaining working for government.

Wake up America.

Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Sep 18, 2010 at 10:19 am

Janna is a registered user.

The GOP would rather spend money killing people.

The fact that they can withhold financial assistance from American citizens makes them all warm and fuzzy.

They can now kill people WITHOUT spending money. Their wildest dreams have come true!

Posted by Dana, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 18, 2010 at 1:34 pm

I agree that if there were one party that was responsible more for killing people that would be cause to re-evaluate one's beliefs and ideals.

Both parties have death as an outcome of some of their policies...
(conservatives more with justifying war and the death penalty...while liberals support largely justify abortion, infanticide, euthanasia...and many other reasons)...

However, I submit to you that it is the Democrats that are the predominate party that is responsible for more "killing" in this world...

- abortions
- infanticide
- euthanasia
- the unscientific banning of DDT (Rachel Carson's book "Silent Spring" triggered this). BTW: Did you know that a San Jose State U. professor used to consume spoonfuls of DDT during his lectures to illustrate DDT was harmless. Literally millions of children have died in Africa and elsewhere due to malaria and other diseases that would have been prevented by DDT. Millions.
- the CAFE standards -- placed on American car makers by Democrats -- have made them lighter and more dangerous have resulted in more deaths than the Iraq war.

Here is a book "The Party of Death" that might get your attention...(tho maybe not, because I have a strong sense that your ideals are unshakable)

>>> Web Link

Posted by Tea Party Patriot, a resident of another community
on Sep 18, 2010 at 2:19 pm

Janna, when you said "The GOP would rather spend money killing people," that was a gross exaggeration. I'm pretty disappointed in you.

What you should have said was "The GOP would rather spend money killing dark-skinned people."

Posted by Tea Party Patriot, a resident of another community
on Sep 18, 2010 at 2:25 pm

Oh, and Dana: your DDT information is...interesting.

If it's safe to eat, would you back that up with a demonstration, please? I'd be very interested to see this. In fact, I'd be willing to vote for anyone you like in the upcoming election if you back up this claim.

You should probably let me know how you'd like me to vote BEFORE you start shoveling in the spoonfuls, though.

Posted by Dana, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 18, 2010 at 2:42 pm


Re: consuming DDT, here is an excerpt of an article linked below...

A German chemist by the name of Othmar Zeidler had first composed this chemical compound in 1874, but did not suggest a use for it. In Switzerland, in 1939, Dr. Paul Muller was looking for chemicals that might kill insect pests when he came across Zeidler's written directions for preparing DDT. Muller perfected it, applied it, and in 1948 received the Nobel Prize for his work with it.

Had Gordon Edwards been in a position to cast a vote that year on Muller's behalf, he surely would have done so. While on duty in Italy in 1944, he and the other soldiers in his company had been plagued by body lice. This lice was spreading typhus among the troops, a disease that had killed 3 million people in Europe during and after the previous war. To check the developing epidemic, the chemists at Merck & Company in New Jersey produced the first 500 pounds of American-made DDT, rushed it to the airport, and flew it to Italy.

There, Edwards got the order to dust every soldier in his company with the DDT powder. For two weeks straight, he did just that, breathing the fog of white dust as he did so. Much to everyone's relief, the DDT worked, and the epidemic was checked. The surgeon general estimated that the DDT had saved the lives of 5,000 soldiers. After the war, inspired by this experience, Edwards went on to get his Ph.D. in entomology from Ohio State University and eventually headed out to San Jose State University where he taught medical entomology courses for more than 30 years.

Carson's iconic status never slowed Edwards down. In a series of articles and very public presentations, he exposed Carson and others like her who would deceive the public to advance their cause.

When Carson alludes to increased bird deaths during the DDT era, Edwards responds, "Is it possible that Carson was unaware of the great increases in mammals and game birds." Her claim that robins were on the verge of extinction because of DDT and related chemicals he reveals to be transparently untrue. Observers, he points out, spotted 12 times more robins in the DDT era than before. As to her claim that DDT was originally tested as an "agent of death" for man, this he calls "despicable." At the end of the day, beyond all reasonable doubt, Edwards revealed Carson's claim that DDT is "deadly" to be "completely false."

Not afraid to put his mouth where his moxie was, Edwards took to swallowing a tablespoon of DDT on stage before every lecture on the subject. In September 1971, Esquire magazine pictured Edwards doing just that. The accompanying text explained that Edwards had "eaten 200 times the normal human intake of DDT." He did not even consider this gesture risky. In the one year of 1959, for instance, unprotected workmen had applied 60,000 tons of DDT to the inside walls of 100 million houses. Neither the 130,000 workmen or the 535 million people living in the sprayed houses had experienced any adverse effects.

source >>> Web Link

Posted by Tea Party Patriot, a resident of another community
on Sep 18, 2010 at 2:44 pm

so it's a deal, then?

Posted by Dana, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 18, 2010 at 3:04 pm

I'd have zero worries in consuming what the professor consumed. I'd have more worries riding in those ridiculously dangerous democrat "Smart Cars" which are no more than lawnmower-powered tin cans on wheels.

Posted by Tea Party Patriot, a resident of Canyon Creek
on Sep 18, 2010 at 3:17 pm

Okay, great! Where and when should we do this?

Posted by Patriot, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 18, 2010 at 3:40 pm

"the CAFE standards -- placed on American car makers by Democrats -- have made them lighter and more dangerous have resulted in more deaths than the Iraq war."

You might want to check your facts on this one. Traffic fatalities are far lower today than before CAFE standards were passed.

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Posted by Dana, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 18, 2010 at 3:53 pm

Hey Patriot (Not),
Take your pic of these resources,
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I'm done with go do your homework for middle school.

Posted by Tea Party Patriot, a resident of another community
on Sep 18, 2010 at 4:03 pm

Dude, Patriot--you have to admit you had that coming. ;-)

Posted by Pablo, a resident of Downtown
on Sep 18, 2010 at 4:57 pm

Actually I believe Janna to be a troll, as no one could be that stupid, her only goal is to rile up the masses, and this she does.

Posted by Patriot, a resident of another community
on Sep 18, 2010 at 5:42 pm

To Dana,

You might want to read a _real_ news source for a change, like the link I supplied above.

Here's a quote from the article:

"The steady decline in highway death rates has coincided with a slow but dramatic turnaround in the auto industry's approach toward safety technology.

For decades, auto makers resisted calls for new standard safety equipment such as seat belts and airbags, citing costs.

During the 1980s and 1990s, government pressure and consumer demand pushed the industry to take a different approach. "

Funny how the GOP sided with the auto makers every step of the way.

Here's another:

"For years, auto makers have been focused on adding safety technologies that have the biggest impact on the most people, and we're seeing the results in the actual numbers and statistics," said Dave McCurdy, president of the Alliance of Automobile Manufacturers."

Dana, I hope that you expand your horizons and diversify your sources of news and information. If you rely on Rush Limbaugh or the for all your news, you'll end up with a fairly biased view of the world. Best of luck to you.

Posted by Tea Party Patriot, a resident of another community
on Sep 18, 2010 at 6:48 pm


Do you want to do the DDT demonstration at some place like Cold Stone on Main, maybe? I'll buy you some ice cream after--I'm sure, safe as it may be, that the DDT doesn't taste very good. It's the least I can do!

Posted by what a shame, a resident of Canyon Oaks
on Sep 18, 2010 at 9:58 pm

Very intelligent comments! This isn't A POLITICAL RELATED TOPIC That I started!

Pleasanton wake up! Your acting like politics is the ends to the means. No comments on POVERTY!

Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Sep 20, 2010 at 2:53 pm

Janna is a registered user.

The democrats should certainly be on the hook for giving W. all that money for his wars of choice, that is how they have allowed killing.

Your other examples are just lame. Democrats responsible for all the abortions in our country....LOL!!?? Plus, they've been going around committing genocide (huh?) and euthanasia (when did euthanasia become legal?) Dana, you are horribly a confused conservative.

Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Sep 20, 2010 at 2:58 pm

Janna is a registered user.

Ok, let's talk poverty.

Repubs stand in the way of any assistance, whenever possible (laughingly in the name of deficits) for U.S. citizens whose jobs have been eliminated or off-shored to India or wherever. Thus causing those citizens who are unable to find a job to become impoverished. The GOP thinks its always each persons' fault and therefore they do not deserve help.

However, corporate welfare and bailouts are just fine with them.

Posted by Blue Collar, a resident of Downtown
on Sep 21, 2010 at 10:10 am

The statistics don't surprise me at all. Many people can no longer support themselves because decent jobs are not thereanymore. Most Americans are working-class, and the living wage manufacturing jobs have been shipped overseas for the last several years, starting with GM in the early 80's. Big business is only interested in the bottom line--profits for stockholders, not providing employment for labor. I hope that Obama will do what he said while campaigning--to offer incentives to businesses that will manufacture and employ people here in the states. When my HP computer gives me problems and I call for tech support, I am connected to a technician in India who I can barely understand. Thanks, Carly. That tech person is probably working for 5 bucks an hour. This situation, along with the financial shenanigans of Wall St., is what has brought on so much poverty in the US. I look forward to seeing what Elizabeth Warren will do now that she is head of the new Consumer Financial agency.

Posted by Ironic, a resident of Downtown
on Sep 21, 2010 at 10:23 am

No, Republicans happily accept unemployment benefits when they loose their jobs and they happily accept help from the Gov and Tax payers when they accept mortgage assistance to save their homes, (after heavily drawing equity loans to keep up with the Jones), by way of loan modification, forbearance and reduction of loan principal on the taxpayers and shareholders dime. Republicans drive on or socialist sponsored roads and educate their children in our socialist schools. Then they go into retirement and draw SOCIAL SECURITY!

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