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McNerney voted "YES" to protect pedophiles (H.R. 1913)

Original post made by Sara, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on Aug 10, 2010

Doubt me? Here is info about this bill which passed. Tho it is called a "Hate Crimes" bill (Democrats are always deceptive in naming their bills), it specifically protects pedophiles...like our alleged pedophile Livermore "Hummer Mom."

The bill was introduced on April 28 in the U.S. Senate as S. 909. Violating equal justice under the law, the bill adds "sexual orientation" to a list of extra-protected groups under federal law.

Seem ok thus far? Well read on...
Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, offered this very simple amendment to H.R. 1913 in the House Judiciary Committee:

The term sexual orientation as used in this act or any amendments to this act does not include pedophilia.

It was rejected.

Info about the Pedophile Protection Act >>> Web Link

Info on House vote >>> Web Link

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Posted by Fred
a resident of Del Prado
on Aug 10, 2010 at 10:57 am

...and in other news, Sara has no life beyond posting right-wing garbage. She needs to go back down to her Glenn Beck doom bunker.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Aug 10, 2010 at 11:17 am

Stacey is a registered user.

Here's the text of the bill: Web Link:: (thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/D?c111:4:./temp/~c111iwbt6a::)

I can't find the word "pedophile" anywhere in there. Can you?


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Posted by Sara
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 10, 2010 at 11:29 am

Stacey,
You either missed the point inadvertently or deliberately.

Of course there is no mention of the word "pedophiles" because the Democrats rejected specific exclusion of them.

If a pedophile approached your kid and either you or they hit that person, then they (i.e. the victim or parent trying to protect against the pedophile) would be charged with a "hate crime."

Pedophiles and other sexual deviant would enjoy an elevated level of protection, while children, seniors, veterans and churches would not.

Read more closely >>> Web Link


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Aug 10, 2010 at 11:45 am

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Sara,

Only those who define "sexual orientation" as "pedophile" would make such claims. It only looks like that would be a debate in a courtroom. Would a jury consider the definition to be the same?

As for your link, I do not agree with it that pushing away someone's unwelcome advances constitutes a hate crime. A hate crime is defined there and in other government code.


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Posted by Sara
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 10, 2010 at 11:54 am

Stacey,

From the above link,

"...It would also elevate pedophiles as a special protected class " since the term "sexual orientation," which has been added to the "hate crimes" legislation, includes them in the American Psychiatric Association's definition of various "sexual orientations" (30 of these APA "sexual orientations" are listed in a fact sheet provided by the Traditional Values Coalition).

Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, offered this very simple amendment to H.R. 1913 in the House Judiciary Committee:

The term sexual orientation as used in this act or any amendments to this act does not include pedophilia.

It was rejected. "


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Aug 10, 2010 at 12:27 pm

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Also from your link:

"And having reviewed cases as an appellate judge, I know that when the legislature has the chance to include a definition and refuses, then what we look at is the plain meaning of those words."

In other words, it would be up to a courtroom, as I stated above.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Aug 10, 2010 at 12:30 pm

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Here's the Merriam Webster definition of "orientation". I find it interesting that they include "sexual orientation" in the definition. Web Link

Main Entry: ori·en·ta·tion
Pronunciation: \ˌȯr-"-ən-ˈtā-shən, -ˌen-\
Function: noun
Date: 1839

1 a : the act or process of orienting or of being oriented b : the state of being oriented; broadly : arrangement, alignment
2 a : a usually general or lasting direction of thought, inclination, or interest b : a person's self-identification as heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual <sexual orientation>
3 : change of position by organs, organelles, or organisms in response to external stimulus

" ori·en·ta·tion·al \-shnəl, -shə-nəl\ adjective

" ori·en·ta·tion·al·ly adverb


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Posted by Sara
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 10, 2010 at 2:23 pm

Frankly Stacey,
I expected your usual defense against the loathsome democrats to be much fiercer and stronger in this case. It is just limpid. The is very little defense for anyone who understands this bill and its potential negative consequences.

It defends the predators vs. victims.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Aug 10, 2010 at 2:55 pm

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That's because I'm not defending anything. That's your mistake to assume so. So you found a weakness where the bill lacks a definition where you feel there should be one. So what? I'm pointing out your spin, making false claims that the bill somehow defends predators. The bill supports law enforcement activity against violent crime. Let's turn the spin back on you. You support violent crime because you'd vote no on this bill.


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Posted by Sara
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 10, 2010 at 3:56 pm

I never could understand why we need specific "hate crimes" laws when the laws already on the books against violent crime are sufficient.

BTW: Your comment that I "support violent crime because I'd not vote on this bill" is a familiar tactic by the left...because they feel that the title of the bill tells all. The devil is in the details of bills and in this case, the details defend pedophiles vs. victims.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Aug 10, 2010 at 3:58 pm

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Sara wrote: "I never could understand why we need specific "hate crimes" laws"

I'm with you on that one.

"a familiar tactic by the left."

It was YOUR tactic! Your spin is no different.


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Posted by Chet
a resident of another community
on Aug 10, 2010 at 4:30 pm

Our fine Congressman Jerry McNerney did not and would never vote to protect pedophiles. Any such posting is complete miss-information. We are all wasting time on this discussion.


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Posted by Sara
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 10, 2010 at 5:00 pm

Chet,
Sorry to burst your bubble over your beloved Marxist McNerney.

He did vote "YES" for H.R. 1913 which protects pedophiles.

Here is more info from an article entitled "Pedophiles A Specially Protected Class " Thanks To Democrats"

article >>> Web Link


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Posted by Chet
a resident of another community
on Aug 10, 2010 at 9:14 pm

Sara,

Your article link is not a factual report on H.R. 1913 and I am not surprised you would link to such miss-information. Nice try.


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Posted by mark
a resident of another community
on Aug 10, 2010 at 11:24 pm

Sara, I believe you are correct. Although I didn't research then, it was about a year ago or so that there was much talk on the internet about the District of Criminals passing the exact same thing. What I have researched though and there is a lot of evidence that proves that many of the DC Criminals are pedophiles and/or homosexuals/bisexuals. The fact is many of the worlds biggest players in the private and public sectors are not what they portray themselves as sexually. The fact is some of the most powerful "men" in the western world just finished another 2 week all male love in just north of here at Bohemian Grove. I just typed "bohemian grove h" in Google and listed first for that was "bohemian grove homosexuality" with 9,910 hits/results. There is plenty of evidence out there that proves this.

This is what Richard Nixon said after his attendance one year. it's the most faggy goddamn thing that you would ever imagine." Hear from his mouth: Web Link

This is what wikipedia says about the membership and attendees.

"The membership list has included every Republican U.S. president since 1923 (as well as some Democrats), many cabinet officials, directors and CEOs of large corporations including major financial institutions. Major military contractors, oil companies, banks (including the Federal Reserve), utilities (including nuclear power) and national media (broadcast and print) have high-ranking officials as club members or guests.[11]"

But their actions are much worse than that. They worship a 40 foot tall concrete owl, Molock, with the "Cremation of Care" pagan ritual. It includes a mock human being, as being sacrificed in effigy. If you think I am making this up, you will find that the phrase "bohemian grove cremation of care" has 12,400 hits on google. That by itself proves nothing, but the facts contained in many of those hits do.

Some will laugh this off, and they are the ignorant ones. What goes on there every year is much more sinister than what I have mentioned. It is not hard to find more than enough evidence to prove this. And it is directly related to the degenerates in Washington. This is just one example of many that this country is being run by the criminally insane. It's too bad that most people in and around Pleasanton have not tasted the implosion yet and remain clueless as to the train wreck that is inevitable.

Here is a little something that the media has covered up, "Boys Town Abuse" Web Link
Reagan, Bush, the White House and a child sex ring. Typical for the Powers That Be!

Here is a quote:"The following archive paints a chilling portrait of what is really going on in the upper echelons of the ruling elite here in America. The story involves children from orphanages in Nebraska being flown around the United States by top Republican officials in order to engage in child sex orgies with America's ruling elite. It is a fact that during the 1980's, child sexual services were provided by top Republican officials to key, bureaucrats and diplomats but most importantly, there is a chilling proximity of all of these events and personalities, to the President of the United States at the time, George H.W. Bush. And there have been victims who claim that the President himself engaged in the activities. It is a tale of child sex, murder, espionage, blackmail, and huge payoffs. And all the players are involved. From the White House to the CIA to the media barrons to the Republican elite - right down to the orphanages where they procured their victims."

WAKEUP! And yes, both Bushes are regulars at Bohemian Grove.

And yes Sara, Staceys bad faith actions here are deliberate. Anyone that supports her is "questionable" or..........


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Posted by mark
a resident of another community
on Aug 10, 2010 at 11:37 pm

Do tell, Chet sounds an awful lot like the one and only, Stacey.
Sara, do not let whoever this is misdirect and/or discourage you like they are trying to do. That is their job, to spread disinformation and to conceal the truth.

Stacey, you certainly faked on the "Explain this dublinmike" thread.
The traits of the traitor. You, cholo, dublinmike, and now Chester? Go figure, did you just make this up, Chester the what? Defending pedophiles? Only in Amerika.


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Posted by Chet
a resident of another community
on Aug 12, 2010 at 8:44 pm

Mark- It would be impossible for you to be any more wrong. Nice try.


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Posted by Right
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 12, 2010 at 9:45 pm

Incredible the lengths some people will go to to smear one's name and intention. Mark, I think most people know that Representative McNerney did NOT vote on this bill to "protect pedophiles" and most people realize that there is no wording in the bill to "protect pedophiles" in any shape or form. It's just downright deceit to suggest that this is the case. One of the intents of the bill is to allow the legal system to recognize and label a blatent case of bodily injury to a gay person as a hate crime, which I believe we have all seen happen, either locally or in the national news.

There is NOTHING to protect a known perpetrator, such as a pedophile, from prosecution.


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Posted by lisa
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Dec 23, 2010 at 9:12 pm

McNerney won...sour grapes.
This is ridiculous.
Rape and pedophilia are not sexual orientations.
They are aberrations.
Consenting adults, in a loving relationship, who become victims of hate crimes deserve protection.
Shame on you for spreading lies and misinformation.


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