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Graph of the Day

Original post made by Chris on Jul 9, 2010

Unemployment Under different U.S. House Majorities:

(Source for the unemployment figures: a spreadsheet taken yesterday from the Bureau of Labor Statistics website. Republican period: January 1995-December 2006. Democrat period: January 2007-June 2010.)

Graph >>> Web Link

Comments (25)

Posted by Cool, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2010 at 10:44 pm

Now, how about a graph super-imposed over this one, showing the Democratic vs. Republican presidents, perhaps with a 6-9 month delay to allow for their influence to take hold? What would we see then?


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jul 9, 2010 at 11:19 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

How to lie with graphs! Cherry-pick the dates on the X axis instead of showing an even spread. And how about dates prior to 1995?

What about Senate majorities or Congressional majorities?

I once saw a website a number of years ago showing that the economy was usually very good under Democratic presidents. Wish I had bookmarked that...


Posted by westsider, a resident of Foothill High School
on Jul 9, 2010 at 11:23 pm

Well 'cool' I guess you can spin the facts however you want. Hard to argue with this one very simple truth though, isn't it?


Posted by Ron, a resident of Downtown
on Jul 9, 2010 at 11:24 pm

Yep, republican financial policies triggered democratic unemployment.


Posted by Chris, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 9, 2010 at 11:43 pm

Stacey...you are one FLAMING leftist and WRONG.

When Democrat presidents were in office ... take Clinton for example...the reason the economy was vibrant was ...

1) Their lack of spending on the defense of our nation (e.g. Clinton passed on going after Osama despite his declaring war on America several times)

2) The Democrat presidents like Clinton WANTED much more government spending (e.g. HillaryCare) but the Republican majority congress held him in check.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jul 9, 2010 at 11:57 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Wow Chris,

I point out how the graph is constructed and you conclude I'm a flaming leftist. Amazing how you came to that conclusion. If you knew me better you'd know that I'm as far from the left as I am from the right. I've been frequently accused here of being both on the left and the right. You say a lot more about yourself than me when you write such posts. Here's a link for you: Web Link

Westsider,

Facts are facts. Graphs are drawings subject to context and visual design. Let's take away the dates after 2006 and which is the highest number? Or better yet, let's add in the data going back to the Great Depression.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jul 9, 2010 at 11:59 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Here's more charts for the fine folks who read this forum and like charts and graphs: Web Link


Posted by M., a resident of Downtown
on Jul 10, 2010 at 12:22 am

M. is a registered user.

Sounds like another "If you do not agree with me, you hate America" post.


Posted by Teri, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 10, 2010 at 8:00 am

Stacey,
I am very interested in your opinion about the following. Are you pleased with ...

1. Obama's presidency

2. The overall "change" he has proposed and implemented

3. His choices of people in his Administration

4. His Supreme Court picks

5. The decisions of his Justice Department

Advanced thanks for your opinions on these and any other related issues.


Posted by Jane, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 10, 2010 at 9:45 am

Why should Stacey reply to you, Teri? This thread is about selective statistical representations, not Stacey's positions on the peripheral issues you listed.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Carriage Gardens
on Jul 10, 2010 at 10:41 am

chis is one foaming wingnut! i thought that by now, you would have knawed away your toenails...


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Carriage Gardens
on Jul 10, 2010 at 5:44 pm

laugh of the day...


Posted by cant believe, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 10, 2010 at 8:52 pm

Stacy: just curious. You did comment about the graph, however why is it necessary to describe yourself as: "I'm as far from the left as I am from the right."?

If you have to say it, usually its not so. And since I don't know you, I have to draw conclusions based on what you say.

The graph may have not been the best,(I really don't know) however none can deny that the polices of this administration are anti-business thus anti job growth. To stay on this course will only make the unemployment numbers worse.

Truths become cloudy, logic is lost, and your comments are simply smoke and mirrors when you admit to "being both on the left and the right."

In this political climate today, that's just not a choice because the goals are are directly opposed to each other.







Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jul 11, 2010 at 9:28 am

Stacey is a registered user.

The only purpose Chris has in his response to me is to marginalize, not to engage in any debate. My approach to issues does not conform to any single ideology on either side. That's why I am frequently referred to as being both on the right and the left by other posters here. For example, "cutting spending" is a tool in a toolbox to address a specific problem at a specific time under specific conditions, not a goal for the sake of an ideology.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jul 11, 2010 at 9:31 am

Stacey is a registered user.

BTW, over 200,000 temporary government census workers are off the government payrolls now.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jul 11, 2010 at 9:39 am

Stacey is a registered user.

Get it? Government cuts spending (on census workers) and unemployment rate goes up! Go figure. Web Link

But in the meantime, the governor of Ohio is making videos singing to LeBron James to try to keep him with the Cavaliers. Because that's where American priorities really lie. Blame Obama all you want for the ills of America. It was no better than blaming Bush.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jul 11, 2010 at 9:40 am

Stacey is a registered user.

And no more constructive either.


Posted by Teri, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 11, 2010 at 9:57 am

Face it Stacey, a person who says she is no more on the right than on the left has no principles on which he/she bases decisions. His/her decisions are based on emotions only. Anyone who claims to have no political leanings...is certainly against the Constitution on which this Country was founded.

As far as I am concerned...you and people of your mindset are a principle reason why this country is in such a mess. You are definitely part of the problem.


Posted by can't believe, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 11, 2010 at 10:17 am

Teri: You captured exactly what I so poorly tried to say.


Posted by dublinmike, a resident of Dublin
on Jul 11, 2010 at 12:00 pm

dublinmike is a registered user.

Teri,

RE: "I am very interested in your opinion about the following. Are you pleased with ...

1. Obama's presidency, 2) etc"

I think you meant to type Geo. W. Bush...

I am not saying President Obama is doing a good job but I am saying that the problems happened under President Bush's watch, using your rationale.

However, in support of President Bush, he should not receive all the blame for a bad economy no more than President Clinton should all the accolades for a great economy.

And, keep in mind, we have a dysfuntional congress thanks to arcane rules and self-serving behavior REGARDLESS of political party.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jul 11, 2010 at 2:21 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

No, you face it Teri, it's people like you who are the real ruin of this country. You confuse principles with ideology, which is a road to the oppression of others who don't conform to the ideal. Your only interest is in identifying who you can marginalize rather than actual defense of the Constitution. That's why your earlier questions are silly and not worth answering. You have the nerve to reference the Constitution yet you completely lack any appreciation of the lengthy REASONING that went into its formulation. Your love of ideology is the complete antithesis to REASONING and that's why our country is being ruined.


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jul 11, 2010 at 2:31 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

And really, what is "anti-business"? The Founding Fathers were "anti-business" by today's standards. Remember the Boston Tea Party?


Posted by Stacey, a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jul 11, 2010 at 2:51 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

The Colonists got shat on by a government trying to socialize the East India Company's risk. Corporate welfare for the East India Company resulted in higher taxes on everyone else. Sound familiar?


Posted by Chris, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jul 11, 2010 at 7:10 pm

Your views and opinions on various subjects are all over the map which makes it extremely hard to identify any consistency with your values. Or maybe I am just reading you correctly in that your values on the same subjects change frequently.


Posted by M., a resident of Downtown
on Jul 11, 2010 at 11:44 pm

M. is a registered user.

So apparently people are angry because Stacey is not as easily identified as either left or right. Honestly why should anyone care what side Stacey leans to. Stacey please correct me if I am wrong.It appears that Stacey decides for herself on a case by case basis if she is for or against something/someone, as opposed to swallowing a party ticket hook line and sinker. Perhaps the rest of you should think about doing the same thing.

This entire post, or what it has turned into is a perfect example of how politics has turned into ideology.Opinions on matters of politics have nothing to do with someone's moral character, or moral values in most cases.

Stacey's point on how to lie with graphs is right on, graphs are easily manipulated, much like just about any kind of statistic, all of which is common knowledge. In the end the ideologically driven commentators have taken up arms against simple logic in a knee jerk reaction to someone disagreeing with them, or simply not taking their word for it.

As for you Chris,
"Or maybe I am just reading you correctly in that your values on the same subjects change frequently."

Values? The word is opinion. You have politics, morality, and religion all mixed up. Trust me they are not the same thing, no matter how much people try to act like they are.

M.


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