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on Jun 29, 2010
Where was McNerney for the last 10 years? Outsourcing of American jobs to other countries by American Corps to save money and get the tax advantages should have been dealt with long before now!
McNerney is a typical "Johnny come lately" politician who has had his head in the sand far too long and now that is run is coming to a thankful end he decides to do something except in this case the barn door has been open and the horses are running the countryside!
McNerney do us all a favor and do nothing! Just like you did with Healthcare until the Inept one (Mr President) convinced you to act.
You were never a friend to your district or those you represented...time for you to go....so do us all a favor don't try and start to become something you have not been for the last many years! McNerney....Thanks...but no thanks!
Kudos to McNerney! This is a bill long overdue. Also the type of bill you will not see being originated by Republicans.
Love McNerney. He has my vote in November!
Jerry McNerney's horse has escaped, he is not trying to shut the barn door.
This would've helped before NUMMI moved 10's of thousands of jobs out of California.
How about a bill to prevent the US President from sabotaging US jobs?
GM pulls out of NUMMI after Obama comes into office, Jerry McNerney does nothing.
Toyota announces they are pulling out of NUMMI without GM support. Jerry McNerney writes a letter
Toyota shuts the plant down anyway, Jerry McNerney writes another letter.
After all is said and done, Jerry McNerney initiates legislation to prevent this from happening ever again.
Too little, too late. The theme of Jerry McNerney's congressional career.
Jerry - Do you know what a "Tax Haven" is? It is a place that has lower taxes than where you currently are!
If you endorse cap and trade, vote for massive deficit spending, pass health care reform with massive tax increases, and on and on, you are making other countries into tax havens.
Not trying to be a "smartass", but try cutting our taxes and make the US into the tax haven, then you will save US jobs Jerry!
that was supposed to be "he is now trying"
Good points Jim01,
You can also add to this list a couple of items near and dear to "Jerr's" heart.
- Windmills...did you know that approx 80% of the wind energy funds from TARP went to CHINA for them to build these incredibly expensive (and very unproductive) wastes of machinery?
ABC News interview by liberal Dianne Sawyer >>> Web Link
- CFL lightbulbs...the majority, if not ALL, of these bulbs which will be required in 2012 will be made in CHINA. There will be a massive number of jobs lost in America because of this ridiculous legal requirement. Not to mention...they are INFERIOR to Edison's invention!
Sobering videoclip >>> Web Link
Hey Jerry...what do you have to say about these 'wonderful' products you support??? (You flaming socialist)
A little late, don't you think?
Too little, too late. Just so he can say he's doing something.....
maja likes to talk through her hat...
Lahommed, "Where was McNerney for the last 10 years?" McNerney was elected in 2006.
Jim01, "How about a bill to prevent the US President from sabotaging US jobs? " I think you meant it to refer to Bush... bit late on that.
jim01, "Concerned" American, maja7, et al, once again the chant is: "I hate McNerney and all Democrats, not matter what they do"
The U.S.'s 41.6% is the *2nd* highest corporate tax rate in the world with only Japan's being higher. Compare ours to socialist France's at 34% or China's at 25%. As the former CEO of several U.S. companies I am now planning a new company with most of the hiring in Asia. Why? Because after I get done paying the 41% tax, and then the looming healthcare fees along with legal insurance to protect the company against all the frivolous lawsuits here in California, we won't be able to compete against foreign companies. None of our 401(k) or public retirement funds would ever invest in that kind of company. So rather than assume most Americans are that stupid, Jerry would be better off supporting lowering the tax loads on U.S. companies so we can keep jobs here. Maybe Jerry should take a trip to Detroit to see what high taxes and high labor costs did to employment in the U.S. auto industry.
We have a fantastic Congressman in Jerry McNerney and he is again as always going to bat for us hard working Americans. We all knew we elected the right person to rep us and Jerry has proven over and over again he is the right man for the job. Harmer should never be taken seriously for the job. He could never rep us as Harmer does NOT EVEN LIVE IN OUR DISTRICT!!!!
I was thinking about "Concerned" American's comment "ABC News interview by 'liberal' Dianne Sawyer" while watching her tonight... wrong again, Concerned, Dianne is a Socialist!! Worse... she looks like a Democrat! You can tell by the eyes, the hair style...
vintage10 is a phony. His decision has to do with cheap labor... you know, people without medical care, dental care, unsafe work conditions, no protections against abusive employers AND no political voice. Folks, I give you the new ugly-American: vintage10 - screw my fellow countrymen, it's all about me folks...
You can call me a Socialist (which I ain't) or some other convenient title but the fact is I support the capitalist system. Despite it's flaws, it does work (most of the time).
"As the former CEO of several U.S. companies I am now planning a new company with most of the hiring in Asia. "
I'm glad someone of your stature finds time to post the the Pleasanton Weekly Town Square. Or maybe these companies were lemonade stands and garage sales? Please, tell us about these companies.
I don't believe that you've ever been a CEO of anything...you have a funny fantasy life!
Cholo, You need to come up with a new put down....."(insert name) talks through her hat"
Heard it before. Come up with a new one so you entertain me. And, my point was........oh forget it...you don't want to hear it anyway.
Thanks for the one way conversation:)
maja7, you and Cholo should have your own private chat...
We live in a global economy, protectionism is not the means to compete.
you are right pleasanton parent and mike continues in the progressive mindset of distort and insult ad miss the overall point
stick to the issue ie protectionsm that mcnerney is promoting vs reducing regulation and cutting taxes to allow american businesses to compete
mike you say over and over you are for capitalism -- where do you fall on this?????????????
as the poll in the other harris thread indicated everyone can favor increasing our manufactiuring base
The way to stop the bleeding of jobs in CA is not to do initiate pretectionist ploicies which will only make us less competitive. We need a representative that will work to make CA more competitive and business friendly like it used to be. I can't find a single thing Jerry has done in this regard.
We lose jobs not only because of tax loopholes but because doing business in CA is way too expensive and restrictive compared to other places. Case in point, last year, Intel who is headquartered here added thousands of new jobs...guess what, none were in CA as Intel chose to create those jobs in more business conducive states...
McNerney is one of the bums we must get rid of this fall...He has no new ideas and his voting and legislation record are nothing more than attempts to advance the continuing failed policies of the Democratic Party while at the same time, touting to the people that he represents our best interest which he does not. But he continue to have have followers believing his lies...Where was Jerry in the Nummi lost jobs fiasco? He was too busy voting alongside Nancy Pelosi on social agenda issues...
Bye bye, McNerney!! In November, you'll be voted outta there! Good riddance.
Good God, everyone remember this guys name. FINALLY, a politican who sees a GIANT problem with America! Now a bill to TAX those who have outsourced and want to bring their product back. Then China, then E-Verify. This would amount to about 15 million plus jobs for Americans then we don't need unemployment.
After years of doing nothing but representing the DEMOCRATIC PARTY, NOT HIS DISTRICT, HE IS TRYING TO DO SOMETHING NOW THAT A VIABLE CANDIDATE IS RUNING AGAINST HIM. This awful congressman VOTED FOR THE HEALTH CARE BILL AND THE STIMULUS BILL AND IT CREATED NO JOBS. 860 BILLION DOLLARS DOWN THE DRAIN!
I wonder how much Mr. McNerny is getting to author this bill? He has been a great politician, always getting "something" for his action. Please don't confuse his "late to the table" methodology for incompetence. He waits to the last minute to make his vote more valuable. I think it's time for a change. I really don't care if it's a republican, democrat or some other party; we need to change Washington before we spend our country into financial oblivion.
What's next? States trying to get at people's money when they move out due to crushing taxes and artificially high cost of living? Maybe an attempt to prevent you from leaving at all? Silly suggestions, you say, but nevertheless fully illustrative of the mindset at work here.
As a taxpayer, I want government contracts executed as cheaply as possible. If that means outsourcing work to someplace where wage levels haven't been "set" through government force, or thuggish gang "negotiations," all the better.
McNerney needs to go. This is soft tyranny at work.
Thank you Congressman McNerney! You got my vote!
McNerney is awesome! He is on the side of the people, not the big thug Corporations!
He's certainly got my vote in November!
"The people"??? You mean ...
- the people whose jobs were eliminated by the democrat policies that McNerney voted for?
- the people who will be taxed more and more by the democrat polices that McNerney voted for?
- the people who will need healthcare but will have to pay more and more for healthcare that they'll not likely receive or will have to wait endlessly in line for ... that Obamacare that McNerney forced down our throats
- the people who longed for a series of face-to-face townhall meetings with McNerney and all we received were token one-on-one whisper sessions at his pathetic "Congress At Your Corner" (and where his definition of "corner" is between 6 and 7 at a True Value Hardware and in a corner of an extremely small coffee shop?)
- the people whose FREE SPEECH he is has voted in favor of TWICE out of TWO TIMES silencing?
He is an absolute JOKE and (mis)representative who is robbing us and our children from the American Dream.
McNerneyIsAJoke, McNerney was out in the public. I spoke with him about an issue and we disagreed civilly.
The problem with people like you and "throw the bums out" is that you are more like a bully. You people like to use shouting, name calling and extreme behavior to mask your inability to articulate you views. What do you think any representative should do, call out the police? Hell no, then you would use his protection as another way to attack him.
You people are so full of anger that you can't think straight. Your behavior is another incarnation of road rage.
Our country is being destroyed more and more every day by the Obama Administration. And it is hard and harder to remain extremely "nice" about it. McNerney is playing a big part in its destruction. We have been extremely civil in our Tea Parties, especially compared to Anti-American leftist democrats (witness the G6 in Toronto). I personally have been very civil toward McNerney. We will unleash our frustrations at the ballot box in November.
The fact that many people who love this Country, yet were fooled into voting for this marxist idealogue, continue to apologize and support him as he is ripping this Country to shreds leaves me to believe that these democrats are simply not paying attention to what is going on.
McNerneyIsAJoke wrote: "this marxist idealogue"
If you're going to invoke Marx, you should at least know what he stood for. He was quite critical of the kind of socialism supported by the left in this country.
"reducing regulation and cutting taxes to allow american businesses to compete"
So we can just bail out the financial sector with trillions of dollars again when the fail? That's what Bush did. Harmer even got bailout money and won't give it back. Privatizing profits and socializing risk doesn't work. When is David Harmer going to give back his bailout money and speak out against TARP and the Federal Reserve Emergency Lending Facility? I'll take McNerney over a deregulate and bailout Republican any day.
Stacey, would you provide a weblink to support "He was quite critical of ...socialism supported by the left in this country."
Sure! It's right in the Communist Manifesto where Marx explains what is wrong with the different forms of Socialism. He basically accuses socialist style programs (he was describing French socialism at the time) that make the proletariat condition tolerable (such as welfare, minimum wage, social security, etc.) as serving the interests of the bourgeoisie because they perpetuate the status quo (which is bourgeois rule). He advocated that only through revolutionary change can the proletariat overcome the bourgeoisie.
"2. Conservative or Bourgeois Socialism
A part of the bourgeoisie is desirous of redressing social grievances in order to secure the continued existence of bourgeois society.
To this section belong economists, philanthropists, humanitarians, improvers of the condition of the working class, organisers of charity, members of societies for the prevention of cruelty to animals, temperance fanatics, hole-and-corner reformers of every imaginable kind. This form of socialism has, moreover, been worked out into complete systems.
We may cite Proudhon's Philosophie de la MisÃ¨re as an example of this form.
The Socialistic bourgeois want all the advantages of modern social conditions without the struggles and dangers necessarily resulting therefrom. They desire the existing state of society, minus its revolutionary and disintegrating elements. They wish for a bourgeoisie without a proletariat. The bourgeoisie naturally conceives the world in which it is supreme to be the best; and bourgeois Socialism develops this comfortable conception into various more or less complete systems. In requiring the proletariat to carry out such a system, and thereby to march straightway into the social New Jerusalem, it but requires in reality, that the proletariat should remain within the bounds of existing society, but should cast away all its hateful ideas concerning the bourgeoisie.
A second, and more practical, but less systematic, form of this Socialism sought to depreciate every revolutionary movement in the eyes of the working class by showing that no mere political reform, but only a change in the material conditions of existence, in economical relations, could be of any advantage to them. By changes in the material conditions of existence, this form of Socialism, however, by no means understands abolition of the bourgeois relations of production, an abolition that can be affected only by a revolution, but administrative reforms, based on the continued existence of these relations; reforms, therefore, that in no respect affect the relations between capital and labour, but, at the best, lessen the cost, and simplify the administrative work, of bourgeois government.
Bourgeois Socialism attains adequate expression when, and only when, it becomes a mere figure of speech.
Free trade: for the benefit of the working class. Protective duties: for the benefit of the working class. Prison Reform: for the benefit of the working class. This is the last word and the only seriously meant word of bourgeois socialism.
It is summed up in the phrase: the bourgeois is a bourgeois for the benefit of the working class. "
See... Marx wanted to abolish the relationship between the bourgeoisie and the means of production. The left in this country has no desire to do that, only to provide oversight and regulate that production.
"By changes in the material conditions of existence, this form of Socialism, however, by no means understands abolition of the bourgeois relations of production, an abolition that can be affected only by a revolution, but administrative reforms, based on the continued existence of these relations; reforms, therefore, that in no respect affect the relations between capital and labour, but, at the best, lessen the cost, and simplify the administrative work, of bourgeois government."
I read the Communist Manifesto on my own back when I was in high school (and Ecotopia!). It was very apparent to me that the philosophy behind it was more prescriptive than predictive. It, like any ideology, requires people to act a certain way in order to achieve Utopia. The problem for these ideologies is that people act as they please. If you try to fit people into an ideology, that's the road to oppression and it doesn't matter if we're talking about the left or the right in this country. They both can lead to oppression.
HAHA just flipping through the TV channels and on Bloomberg the reporter just said, "Nine provinces in China are set to raise their minimum wage. Will it be enough to quiet unrest?"
I am shocked that you took my words as being "like a bully" "shouting, name calling and extreme behavior to mask your inability to articulate you views". I think you need to reread my post and apply your words to yourself. I find it hard to believe that you disagree that McNerney's voting methodology is anything more than politics. We can argue the merits of his voting record at another time, I am only interested in discussing the way he manipulates the system for his own gain. I am hoping that we will be able to get beyond "politics" and start fixing what is wrong in Washington.
So, back to the topic . . . we should throw Rep McNerney out so we can:
Get someone like Ms Fiorina who, as CEO of HP 1999-2005, laid off around 30,000 workers and sent jobs overseas? Who defended the shift of jobs overseas by saying, "There is no job that is America's God-given right anymore." (Washington Post, 1/2/08; Associated Press, 1/7/04).
Or someone like Ms Whitman who, as CEO of EBAY 1998-2007, sent nearly 40% of eBay's workforce was sent overseas? (Associated Press, March 20, 2008) Someone who didn't even bother to vote for years before she decided to get into politics?
I realize the neither of these ladies is running against Rep McNerney; unlike Ms. Whitman, I exercise my right to vote in every election. However, I would much rather have someone in office like Rep. McNerney who keeps plugging away at the things that are important for most Americans - unlike Ms. Fiorina or Ms. Whitman.
EBAY and HP are large corporations, and their CEO's do not make these decisions independently, but the buck stops somewhere.
That is what it is all about, the buck. The large corporations will do business in places where they have favorable conditions, i.e. where they can make a profit.
Carly Fiorina in the Senate and Meg Whitman in the CA governors office, just like David Harmer in the House of Representatives representing CD-11, will at least be able to make decisions with a keen understanding and perspective of the operation of a large corporation, and how the prosperity of our large corporations directly affects the prosperity of each American, unlike career politicians Barbara Boxer and Jerry Brown, who never met a government program they didn't like.
If our politicians insist on neverending expansion of entitlement programs, higher and higher taxes, and increased regulations, they will continue to push the Ebay's and the HP's overseas.
Jerry McNerney's protectionist legislation which penalizes US employers is absolutely a wrong-headed response, and will not improve business conditions or make America more prosperous.
The Ms's Fiorina and Whitman certainly have proven how their ability to "make decisions with a keen understanding and perspective of the operation of a large corporation" enabled them to personally amass multi-million dollar fortunes. We have evidence as well as how their personal prosperity "directly affect[ed] the prosperity of each American" under them.
Before she was forced to resign, HP's stock under Ms Fiorina's guidance dropped more than 60% in value; stock prices plummeted from $52 per share in 1999 to $21 in 2005. The negative effect to stockholders was on top of the 30,000 employees who lost their jobs during her tenure as CEO. During this same time period, HP competitor Dell's stock price increased from $37 to $40 per share. Web Link
Ms Whitman put what she had learned while serving on the compensation committee of Goldman Sach's board approving multi-million dollar bonus packages to work at EBAY as she amassed her own personal fortune. The collapse of our financial system led by Goldman Sach's, as well as the 40,000 jobs jost under her tenure at EBAY were just collateral damage to greed. Ms Whitman still has multi-million dollar accounts managed by Goldman; small wonder they donated $100,000 to her campaign. If elected Governor, she should feel right at home since Goldman, as the underwriter of $78.9 billion in bonds issued by the state since 2006, has major investments in California's state finance. Web Link
Although I'm having a hard time jumping on Jerry Brown's candidacy, California certainly can not afford the Fiorina/Whitman brand of prosperity.
As for Mr Harmer, there is no evidence that he has ever been associated with a "large corporation" in his search for a political office to hold. In fact, in his own words, Mr Harmer has run for office because he was "prompted by the Spirit." He believes it is "his obligation and calling as a free American Mormon" because "Mormon candidates have an understanding that is unique because members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints know we are all children of God." Hmmmm, on second thought, perhaps the Mormon Church is the "large corporation" upon which Mr Harmer will base his political decisions . . . Web Link
A serious question for you. The state is a financial disaster in part by the actions of big spenders like Jerry Brown. Can you tell me how his election is going to do anything to correct our situation? I mean we are now the laughingstock of the nation economically. Please let me understand what you think?
Unfortunately, with only Brown and Whitman to choose between, Californians will be screwed whichever way the election goes.
"If our politicians insist on neverending expansion of entitlement programs, higher and higher taxes, and increased regulations, they will continue to push the Ebay's and the HP's overseas."
Ebay's and HP's decisions to send engineering, software, and manufacturing jobs overseas had nothing to do with taxes or regulations. It was all about cheap wages. Wages for computer programmers and electrical engineers in India, China, or Russia are a fraction of what they are in the US. Even if the US had reduced the corporate tax rate to zero, those jobs would have gone.
The trouble with Goldman Sachs is that it enjoyed a tax payer funded bailout when it was failing in 2008. The company was not allowed to fail. Harmer also benefited from a tax payer funded bailout that, as far as I know, he has not paid back. This policy, supported by Republicans, amounts to privatizing profits and socializing risk. It makes more sense to me that if you are socializing risk, then you also have to socialize profit. It is a moral imperative that you get back the tax payer's money. McNerney is more likely to that.
Marx wrote about the different kinds of Socialism in the Communist Manifesto: Feudal Socialism, Petty-Bourgeois Socialism, German Socialism, Conservative or Bourgeois Socialism, and Critical-Utopian Socialism. I think we can add another to the list: Corporate Socialism. The Founding Fathers were pretty leery of Corporations.
""Corporate socialism" -- the privatization of profit and the socialization of risks and misconduct -- is displacing capitalist canons. This condition prevents an adaptable capitalism, served by equal justice under law, from delivering higher standards of living and enlarging its absorptive capacity for broader community and environmental values. Civic and political movements must call for a decent separation of corporation and state."
Glad to hear, wish this happened years ago thought when I lost my job to an overseas company.
Election year politics....he does NOT have my vote
Does McNerney really think we're falling for this? All of a sudden he is concerned about jobs being sent offshore? Did he just wake up? What a poor excuse for a rep, he's too busy with his pet projects to care about anything that is relevant to the folks he represents.
Which "pet projects" would you have Rep McNerney stop working on?
His sponsored bills in support of our military, veterans and wounded like the Quality Care for Veterans Act HR5145, or Caring for Veterans with Traumatic Brain Injury HR1546, or his Combat Pay Act HR4440?
How about his bills that support his constituents in CD11 like Family Farm and Small Business Tax Relief HR4015 or Small Business Job Creation HR4620?
Or maybe it's the bills he's offered on Healthy Communities Water Supply Act HR700, or Smart Grid Advancement HR1774, or maybe the Methamphetamine Education, Treatment, and Hope Act HR2818?
And now HR5622, his Stop Outsourcing and Create American Jobs Act.
I'd say that in his 3 1/2 years in office, Rep McNerney's has definitely been busy working on "pet projects" that are more than relevant to those of us in CD11.
A better question would be where's Republican support for our military, veterans and injured? the farms and small businesses in CD11? the environment? sending jobs overseas?
Oh wait, I almost forgot! The Republican Party's support is evidenced by their claims to support our military; too bad they don't back any bills for our service men and women's care and welfare. The Republicans are all about tax relief in order to cater to the Tea Party Nation, but when there is a bill that would provide actual relief where are they? Then of course, the environment is just fine, why advance alternatives to oil? Too bad we never saw all that oil we went to war for in Iraq.
According to our Republican candidates for Senator and Governor, we can trust them to keep jobs in California because they know how to do that. I guess it just wasn't important before the Ms's Fiorina and Whitman began running for office! It sure wasn't something they saw as necessary as they shipped 70,000 jobs overseas and helped create California's double digit unemployment.
Oh, and then there's Mr. Harmer, who's calling to politics is through his Utah-based church, doesn't live in CD11, and has received major funding from out-of-state . . . and we're supposed to believe his "pet projects" will have any direct benefit for CD11 constituents?
ah hah . . . gotta love politicians!
My feelings for this (mis)representative called McNerney, is that he is tantamount to a child abuser...in that his votes for quadrupling our national debt will be so overwhelmingly burdensome to our children that their quality of life will be much less than our generation. The taxes that they will have to as a percentage of their total income will at nosebleed level.
In addition, their quality of health care ... again thanks to this PATHETIC LOSER of a (mis)representative...will also be much lower than the quality they receive now.
McNerney is a LOATHSOME (mis)representative who needs to GO.
(And I haven't even touched upon his other pathetic votes ... namely for abolishing the 1st Amendment (Free Speech), maintaining his "executive" Congress-only healthcare plan while thrusting the plebian plan to us commoners, among other terrible votes.
We haven't seen this type of bill from a Republican, even when Americans have been thinking and hoping some representative would hear their voice and concerns. Congressman Jerry McNerney has my vote in November. Those of you not registered to vote, please do so. And, if your are registered to vote, get out and Vote! Otherwise the opposition steals your vote and your representation. Don't let the noise makers chant and shout over your vote and voice. Register to vote at your library, fire station and city office. Remember if you changed addresses, you must re-register.
May I ask you something?
Could you kindly view the following videoclip of former Lieutenant Allen West who is running for Congress in Georgia? I would love to hear your opinion of what he has to say.
Allen West videoclip >>> Web Link
Rae - Your post, again, is so chock full of falsehoods and misleading statements I don't know where to start.
When are you going to start simply sticking to facts, and sticking to an issue, instead of diverting (from the subject of the thread) and distorting (McNerney's pathetic record and Republican support for our armed forces, just to name two)???
Yes, pet projects, now there is an old saying, even a broken clock is right twice a day. McNerney, after several failed tries at supporting our veterans; the bills listed above all died in committee except for HR5145, which passed 413-2, which means 165 Republicans supported it.
HR4015 - died in committee: Web Link
HR4620 - died in committee: Web Link
HR700 oh very exciting passed the house - died in a Senate committee: Web Link
HR1774 - died in committee: Web Link
HR2818 - died in committee: Web Link
but instead of McNerney's pathetic 4 year record, lets talk about the future
McNerney has a 100% rating from the major labor unions and a 16% rating from the US Chamber of Commerce. Fact is undisputed that he votes with Nancy Pelosi and the progressive Caucus better than 95% of the time.
Never has a choice been clearer for the voters of CD-11, you can in November vote for taxes on CO2, taxes on your health benefits, higher income taxes, higher deficits, more government regulation.
Or you can help turn back the Pelosi progressive agenda and vote for David Harmer.
As you're well aware, my comments were addressed towards "AJ's" disparaging remarks towards Rep McNerney's efforts, or "pet projects" as he/she called them. I guess your response is that Rep McNerney should give up his efforts to get bills passed in the House that support not only our military, but those of us in CD11 because . . . well, I'm not quite sure why you're saying he shouldn't sponsor and co-sponsor bills that support our military, our environment and CD11 constituents.
As we all know from the news, HR5145 *finally* passed into law earlier this year. Thankfully, it included the contents of HR1546 Caring for Veterans with Traumatic Brain Injury. Rep McNerney originally introduced Caring for Veterans with Traumatic Brain Injury in 2007 the 110th Congress as HR2201. Why did it take so long to get this long overdue support for our severely wounded soldiers? Why is HR4440, the Combat Pay Act which would provide additional hazardous duty pay as well as combat-related injury rehabilitation pay, languishing in committee . . . again? This one was originally introduced by Rep McNerney as HR6686 in the 110th Congress, as were several of his other sponsored bills.
What is evident from his short time in Congress is that Rep McNerney doesn't give up. It doesn't matter that those in Congress who would rather play politics than pass needed legislation continue to throw roadblocks in his way. Rep McNerney has proven that no matter how Republicans try to lock up his legislation, he will continue to represent those issues that mean something to our military, veterans, the environment and CD11.
As for Mr. Harmer's "record" . . . other than his stated religious calling to politics and the Tea Party Nation platitudes he seems to have memorized, I guess he can always point to his time as the Campaign Manager and Finance Director for Utah Republican Mrs. Enid Greene Waldholtz as experience. That was the campaign where the candidate's husband illegally funneled $1.7 million through the campaign finances in a check-kiting scheme while Mr. Harmer was in charge of campaign finances. According to an interview in 1995, Mr. Harmer said "he repeatedly warned Enid Greene Waldholtz of cash flow and financial accounting problems caused by her husband." So, as Finance Director, he knew there were irregularities in the campaign financing, but not only did he not report the illegal activity to the law, Mr. Harmer stayed on in the campaign and became Rep Waldholtz' Washington Chief of Staff until the scandal made it clear that Rep Waldholz was not going to be reelected.
Thanks, but no thanks on Mr. Harmer and his shady political record.
More falsehoods from Rae. Have you ever given a response, or do you just want to keep guessing at what my "response" would be. Quit trying to twist my words to make a do-nothing Democrat Congress look good. I guess to answer what you asked, maybe you should ask all of the Democrats who head Democrat majority committees what tooks so long to get HR5145 passed. Maybe you should ask them why McNerney's other legislation is languishing (languishing is a generous term Rae, the more apt term is DEAD)
Shady political record? I will match you name for name on Democrat and Republican politicians who are crooks, no one would try to say that it is not a dirty game. Clearly in this case, Harmer made the mistake of going to work for a couple who turned out to be crooks.
But just as clear, Harmer took no part in these shenanigans. The whole things been exposed and tried in court, and the wrongdoers were caught. David Harmer was apparently never accused of or charged with anything.
Maybe that's why you take an extremely cheap shot at him, but do not back it up with any kind of document or link
Start reading about pg 206 of this book:
In fact, the way this book tells it, David Harmer played an important part in exposing the scandal. It is really pathetic that you try to link David Harmer to this crime, but arrogant progressives are known for sinking to nearly any level to maintain power.
To clear up another falsehood generated in Rae's version of these events: the book by Linda Killian and the news articles on the story make it clear that Harmer resigned his financial role in the Greene 1994 campaign after three months of asking for financial information and being stonewalled. He was asked to stay on in a campaign role and Greene was elected, David Harmer resigned at the 100 day mark.
You can continue to spin Mr. Harmer while you try to throw up a smokescreen of misdirection by calling me a liar, but I think Mr. Harmer's own words and actions speak much louder than your spin or name-calling tactics. Even the reference you provided backs up the information and references I've noted in several threads on the subject of Mr. Harmer.
"jimf01" said: "To clear up another falsehood generated in Rae's version of these events: the book by Linda Killian and the news articles on the story make it clear that Harmer resigned his financial role in the Greene 1994 campaign after three months of asking for financial information and being stonewalled. He was asked to stay on in a campaign role and Greene was elected, David Harmer resigned at the 100 day mark."
Fact: As was also documented in your reference, Mr. Harmer said in an interview in 1995 that "he repeatedly warned Enid Greene Waldholtz of cash flow and financial accounting problems caused by her husband." Web Link
Fact: As campaign Finance Director Mr. Harmer knew there were irregularities in the campaign financing and "was not permitted access to the books" (your reference pg 224). Yet, when asked to fill the position left by Ms. Loveland who did resign, Mr. Harmer not only stayed on in the campaign, but became Mrs. Waldholtz' Campaign Manager. From pg 210 of your reference: "Harmer would say later that he was ready to resign at that point along with Loveland, but when the Waldholtzes asked him to take her place as campaign manager, he decided to stay. "
Fact: Mr. Harmer remained as Campaign Manager through Mrs. Waldholtz' election, even though he knew there were irregularities in the campaign financing and his concerns were not being addressed. From pg 210 of your reference: "Enid assured Harmer that his concerns would be addressed and that an outside treasurer would be hired for the campaign, but that never happened."
Fact: Mr. Harmer not only remained with the Waldholtz campaign, when she was elected to Utah's CD02 seat in 1995, Mr. Harmer stayed on as her Washington Chief of Staff. From pg 215 of your reference: "They convinced Harmer to come to Washington as Enid's administrative assistant to run her office. It was a "pretty tempting" offer. The Republicans had just taken over Congress. It was going to be an exciting time on the Hill. Harmer accepted."
Fact: The financial improprieties continued, however, according to your reference pg 215, what finally drove Mr. Harmer to resign effective May 31, 1995, was that "It was the same story as the campaign." "he found it somewhere between difficult to impossible to communicate with [Rep Waldholtz]."
Fact: In 1996 when Mr. Harmer ran for her Utah CD02 seat, he distanced himself from the Waldholtz check-kiting scandal by saying "She has no one to blame but herself." Web Link Voters distanced themselves from Mr. Harmer when he ran for Rep Waldholtz' seat.
Fact: No where is it documented in either your reference or in Mr. Harmer's own words that "David Harmer played an important part in exposing the scandal." While it is true that he wrote one or more memos to candidate and then Rep Waldholtz regarding financial irregularities, he did not "expose" his concerns to the public or law enforcement during the time he was Finance Director, Campaign Manager or Washington Chief of Staff for Waldholtz. In fact, for months Mr. Harmer chose to ignore his issues and concerns and just kept taking the Waldholtz' up on their "pretty tempting" offers as he moved up in position.
So, "jimf01", you can continue to spin candidate Harmer's actions and call me a liar for presenting facts, but I don't think CD11 can afford the kind of political ethics Mr. Harmer has demonstrated.
Oh, and BTW, you sure sound a lot like Joe Waldholtz who, according to your reference pg 215, was "quoted in the Utah papers, complaining about the Democrats, who "were not telling the truth to the public."
unfortunately for you Rae, you are guessing that "he did not expose his concerns". You are also guessing Harmer chose to ignore issues and concerns. In fact, what you just restated, that Harmer asked repeatedly, in writing, for financial info shows that he did not.
You also guess that Harmer did not report concerns over illegal activity to the law.
I will not guess at that, because if Harmer informed law enforcement on the case and that started an investigation, that would likely remain a secret. But without any proof of any wrongdoing, making a false accusation could get someone into a lot of legal trouble. So that seems to be a mystery. If the truth on that is documented, I haven't seen it, and you haven't presented it, you've only created conjecture.
I present the facts, you present the spin here. Keep trying, here's a new one.Try to spin away Jerry McNerney's EVI boondoggle in my newest thread. There is a multi-million dollar swindle for you.
LOL!!! Sorry, but I don't think there's a politician alive who, if it served their purposes to get elected as in Mr. Harmer's try in 1996, wouldn't brag about how law-abiding they'd been in working with law enforcement to expose a $1.7 million campaign financing fraud, as they worked to distance themself from the scandal.
Nice attempt on the spin tho'!!
And I think that's it for me on this thread. I'll let the *facts* speak for themselves.
It seems that when you are on a sinking ship you will do any thing to stay alive.The democrates are on a sinking ship that has no life boats or life jackets so lets knock off all these made up attacks and run on the issues,like Obama care,stimulis bill,GM and Chrysler bail out,banking reform,bail out to Freddie and Fannie,cuts off drilling in the Gulf of Mexico and then gives money to other nations so they can drill in the Gulf and put Americans out of work.Most of these people in Washington D.C. do not know that we purchased Alaska for all of its resources which includes oil.We need term limits now.
The ONLY jobs McNerney is protecting and growing are GOVERNMENT JOBS!!!
THERE is NO...ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE, from McNerney's voting record that he cares one iota about private sector jobs!
In fact, the opposite is true.
- Obamacare is a job destroyer.
- Cap and Trade is a job destroyer.
- Raising the minimum wage is a job destroyer.
- TARP was a job destroyer.
- The union bills he voted for was a job destroyer.
- His votes for the FAIRNESS Doctrine was a job destroyer.
- His votes for the DREAM ACT was a job destroyer.
- His position for amnesty is a job destroyer.
McNerney is a VIRTUAL JOB DESTRUCTION MACHINE!!!
And JEB BING'S IS DISGUSTING FOR HIS LAPDOG BLIND UNQUESTIONING SUPPORT FOR THIS McNERNEY SOCIALIST. HAVE YOU EVER READ ANYTHING REMOTELY CRITICAL ... OR EVEN QUESTIONING, FROM JEB BING REGARDING ANYTHING McNERNEY HAS VOTED FOR???
Thetans, hear me! Harmer is the chosen one!
Do not be deceived by the lies of the McNerney followers. He clearly is supported by workers, veterans, educators, women's groups and minorities.
Who speaks for the white and entitled? Not McNerney!
Who stands up for corporate profits and freeing businesses from accountability? Not McNerney!
Who advocates for the wealthiest 2%? Not McNerney!
I, XENU, have spoken!
We can always count on McNerney to show strong leadership and judgement in pushing laws and programs that lead to jobs in our district 11
Am waiting with baited breath for you to list a variety of examples of the jobs created by McNerney's efforts. (oh yes, not govt jobs).
We must be Grateful to Meg; many are saying she will not Win. So let us say "Thank You very much for providing her portion $162 million dollar "Stimulus Package" contribution to "The Kalifornia Economy" For those that work in Political campaigning, Media, printing, air time, photographers, News People, Fuel, tires, Restaurants, Motels & more. "THANK YOU! Meg Whitman for Giving Back to California where Dreams can Come True!" Sincerely, Gary Schwaegerle
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