Chemtrails: The Consequences of Toxic Metals and Chemical Aerosols on Human Health Crimes & Incidents, posted by mark, a resident of another community, on Jun 6, 2010 at 2:19 pm
"It seems almost unbelievable that millions/billions of people could look up at the sky and not notice the dramatic changes that have occurred from what it was, for instance, in the mid-1990s. Then our sky was a gorgeous, deep blue. Clouds were a beautiful assortment of shapes. The sun was glorious. But people under 30, may not have a real sense of recollection about looking up every day and seeing this panoramic magnificence. Most of them are too busy texting or chatting on their cell phones. There are other issues to consider, as well: People are in their own comfort zones; and denial is a very powerful human emotion. In the hustle and bustle (now quite out of hand, for reflective time), how many people look up at the sky? It also takes huge courage, a very deep, internal willingness to examine politically motivated corporate controlled media spin, and search for the real answers. Humans like their regular routines. To re-examine what we think we know, based on new evidence, takes a willingness to think outside the proverbial box; to want to find out the truth –not the pervasive Orwellian doublespeak that pervades our society. If everything in our daily routine belies what is truly going on, it requires fortitude to explore the unknown –to question the litany."
Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore, on Jun 6, 2010 at 5:57 pm
Your real issue is Islamic Genocide against Christians: Web Link
The current regime in Turkey is a radicalized Islamist bunch of nuts. If anyone as much as admits to Turkey having committed Genocide against Armenians and Greeks, the present Islamic leadership plans to repeat the Genocide.
So much for not understanding a peaceful lunatic religion.
Posted by Andy, a resident of the Siena neighborhood, on Jun 7, 2010 at 10:36 am
Chemtrails????? Are you talking about the water vapor that is left behind by jets when they fly at altitude? If you think these are "chemtrails", then it's time for you to replace your tin foil hat.
I'm over 30...well over 30....and I notice that the air is CLEANER today then it was 30 years ago. Did you ever fly into any airport in the Los Angeles area back in the 70's and 80's? It was so smoggy that it looked like rain clouds! The air has been cleaned up, and today is another gorgeous day in Pleasanton. I'm so sick of whiners in their Prius' and "Coexist" bumper stickers!
Posted by mark, a resident of another community, on Jun 7, 2010 at 3:27 pm
If you actually believe that contrails are the same thing as chemtrails you are delusional. Contrails disappear within 15 - 30 seconds. Chemtrails linger for hours, sometimes all day long, when they merge with other chemtrails to form chemtrail clouds.
Posted by June, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Jun 7, 2010 at 8:32 pm
How about indoor air? Do just a little googling on indoor 'air fresheners' and you will find that they are indoor air pollutants. Pregnant women and children (particularly those with asthma and migraine headackes) should not be exposed to them.
Posted by An Aerospace Engineer, a resident of the Bonde Ranch neighborhood, on Jun 8, 2010 at 8:48 am
Contrails are a result of aerodynamics; caused by an aerodynamic body of whatever passing through the earth's atmosphere at certain altitudes and speeds. You can also see them in wind tunnels or even on TV car commercials. They are also called vapor trails in some circles. Actually, the vice pres of Rockwell Intl (when it existed) called them vector trails! (Shrug, go figure.)
Chemtrails are a result of "dirty" engines. The DoD has the most dirty engines, even new ones are "dirty."
The stuff from the engines can and does mix with the dynamics of the air passing around the wings. Hence, Chemtrails.
Mark, I'm with you on your comment(s) and quest. Yet, I too, grew up in LA during the 60s and 70s. The air then had record levels of particulate matter making it look a lot dirtier then than now. Here in P-Town, I don't "see" that at all (thanks to California's air quality control). Compared to the 90s, which was your date of reference, now is likely more toxic, although not visibly dirtier. And, BTW, a few years back, I read that Livermore has the 8th most polluted air quality in the nation. It seems that it experiences the same inversion dynamic as in LA and Riverside.
So, I'm sorry Cholo, perhaps you should care rather than throw chaff into the discussion. And, you all know what chaff is, don't you?
Posted by Andy, a resident of the Siena neighborhood, on Jun 8, 2010 at 12:07 pm
The reason I mixed "chemtrails" together with "contrails" is because the "chemtrails" crowd first got on this bandwagon by listening to Art Bell about 6 to 8 years ago. I used to listen to Art Bell as well, until he got on the "chemtrails" topics. So just to clarify for those of you who don't understand this "conspiracy", people who are chemtrail believers are people who will look up in the sky and see a long white "trail" (or trails) going across the sky. Obviously, this long white trail is made by a jet going overhead and is natural, normal process. The white line may stay for 2 minutes and then disappear, or may remain for a half hour and not move. It all depends on the winds aloft and other meteorological conditions. There is a rocket engineer (seriously) that I went to high school with, and she is on my Facebook page. She is regularly posting pictures of "chemtrails" and believes that the government is sending planes up to purposely poison the human population. The pictures she posts are usually when the white contrails criss-cross each other. Well it just so happens that she lives below a very active jet route (airplane highway in the sky), so planes will ALWAYS be criss-crossing and leaving contrails ("chemtrails") above her house.
I hope this make sense.....but just go back and read what I said about flying into the LA Basin in the 70's and 80's, and compare it to today. And how about the news release yesterday that the tap water quality in Las Vegas is BETTER than bottled water? We are doing fine, and like I said, you Prius drivers with the "Coexists" bumper stickers have a lot to learn.
Posted by Downtowner, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Jun 8, 2010 at 2:00 pm
I remember that one of the "chemtrails" conspiracy sites posted "SECRET PROOF" of special airplanes being sent up to disperse toxic chemicals or drugs. It was an aircraft that flew over his house in a town in New England. He knew it was SPECIAL because it had RED ENGINES, and he got a picture of it with the date and time.
Looking at the picture, and consulting an airline schedule and a map, it was revealed that... it was a Virgin Atlantic 747 flight from Philadelphia to London. (Virgin Atlantic planes have red engines.)
This is the level of reasoning and investigation you get from the chemtrails conspiracy sites. Toss it on the heap with little green men, Ancient Astronauts, astrology, the Mayan 2012 Doom Prophecy, Scientology, and the faces of Jesus people see in tortillas.
Posted by mark, a resident of another community, on Jun 8, 2010 at 4:23 pm
Here is a link to a full page add placed in a Redding newspaper by a grassroots group of concerned citizens regarding Californias drinking water. The ad links "off the chart" levels (according to CA state certified labs) of aluminum, barium and strontium in Northern California to chemtrails in the area. Living in denial is absurd.
Posted by mark, a resident of another community, on Jun 8, 2010 at 4:42 pm
The chemicals that we are being sprayed with have nothing to do with the jet engine nor it's exhaust. Anyone that portays that it does is flat out lying or flat out ignorant in this regard, and if the latter is the case, would be better off saying nothing at all instead of broadcasting their negative intelligence level.
Watch this video, and for the deniers, try and provide facts to dispute anything in the video. Good luck!!
Posted by mark, a resident of another community, on Jun 8, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Uh, Stacy, is it that you cant admit it when you are wrong or are you part of the cabal? Why dont you address the facts as presented instead of taking cheap shots like a professional fraudster and or mind guard? Your reply was pathetic at best, giving you the benefit of the doubt at that.
Posted by mark, a resident of another community, on Jun 8, 2010 at 10:48 pm
Stacy/m, you continue to misrepresent the facts and the content of the links that I provided. Your actions certainly make it appear that you are here for the purpose of controlling the direction of this and similar threads and to conceal from the public certain facts of life here in the USA and abroad.
Fact - Chemtrails are not Contrails
Fact - Chemtrails are Carcinogenic
Fact - The US Government spray us almost every day with poisonous Chemtrails
Fact - You are trying to Conceal these facts
There is a ton of factual evidence that proves what I listed above available on the internet for anyone seeking the truth. Anyone with an open mind that researches the issue, that is capable of critical thinking, will agree with me on the subject of Chemtrails. Agree with the facts, that you seek to conceal from all.
So my question to you is, exactly, who's agenda are you promoting? And why?