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Teen charged with felony afterschool fight

Original post made on May 5, 2010

What started as an afterschool fight between "five or six kids" led to a felony charge of assault with a deadly weapon against a 17-year-old Village High student, according to Pleasanton police Sgt. Mike Tryphonas.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 6:19 PM

Comments (31)

Posted by omg, a resident of Ruby Hill
on May 5, 2010 at 8:48 pm

omg. i saw this. it was kinda scary.

Posted by Journalism?, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 5, 2010 at 10:39 pm

It's been a few years since I've taken journalism courses or have been on a school or local newspaper, but I remember that FACTS such as date and time were crucial to good journalism. Nowhere in this article is there any mention of WHEN this incident took place, either which day or the actual time of day. Of course, by the time you read this comment in the morning on Thursday, the editor will have corrected this article to include those FACTS and there will be (if past practice serves as any example) no modification to the timestamp on the article to let you know that he/she has "fixed" the missing facts, so you might think that I just happened to "miss" those facts when reading the article, so I'll paste the article here, just so we're all on the same page... no date or time is reported.

Article as of 10:30pm 5/5:

Teen charged with felony afterschool fight

by Glenn Wohltmann
Pleasanton Weekly Staff

What started as an afterschool fight between "five or six kids" led to a felony charge of assault with a deadly weapon against a 17-year-old Village High student, according to Pleasanton police Sgt. Mike Tryphonas.

"There were some Village High kids that came onto the Amador campus after school," Tryphonas said, adding one Amador Valley High student was hit with an object and received minor injuries.

Tryphonas would not say what the object was because the investigation is continuing.

The teens scattered when police arrived, but one was caught and charged. His name is being withheld because of his age.

Tryphonas downplayed the idea that the fight was gang related, describing the fight as a personality conflict.

"These are people who don't like each other, he said.

Posted by Sarah, a resident of Birdland
on May 6, 2010 at 5:18 am

It says it was an afterschool fight, most people can infer a timeframe from that.

Maybe the date isn't explicit but the weekly is usually pretty on top of their news so it would be a good bet that it was the same day. If you really were that concerned with knowing the date of the event, perhaps you could send them an email rather than criticize the report someone was working on late at night. And really...does the date actually matter? Does the fact that the journalism skills weren't up to your par matter? I think there are a lot of other more important things to worry about.

Other times, people will complain to the Weekly for not reporting things quickly enough, i guess it's just hard to make everyone reading the FREE news online happy.

Posted by Bravo Sarah!, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 6, 2010 at 8:15 am

I echo Sarah's sentiments. The Weekly often posts breaking news and then goes back in to fill in greater details. Thanks, Sarah, for being the voice of reason--something we rarely see in these blogs.

Posted by Shar, a resident of Golden Eagle
on May 6, 2010 at 8:54 am

Thanks for timely news. Sarah said it all.

Posted by Steve, a resident of Foothill Knolls
on May 6, 2010 at 9:00 am

To Journalism?:

With a story like this the only thing you can think of is how the FACTS of date and time are not reported?

You need some help my friend.

Posted by Mary, a resident of Del Prado
on May 6, 2010 at 9:30 am

The fight was Tuesday afternoon, just around 3:30 PM. Word on campus is that it was "gang" related. We don't like to think of there being gangs here in Pleasanton, but there are! Let's hope the kids at school are wrong and the PPD is right about this.

Posted by resident, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 6, 2010 at 10:01 am

Here we go again, convicts-in-training from Village HS are once again on the loose. That school is nothing but a gathering place for losers and hoodlums who get out of school and roam the nearby neighborhoods looking for an opportunity to commit a crime or intimidate someone. That school belongs behind locked gates and not in a downtown neighborhood. The principal should be accountable for the vandalism and other crimes done by his students. In California there is already a law that can hold schools accountable for the actions of the students between leaving school and arriving home. How about it Pleasanton PD -- feel up to enforcing that law? If the school was held accountable it would most likely end up closing and what a relief that would be for anyone living within walking distance of it.

Posted by Woah!, a resident of Amador Valley High School
on May 6, 2010 at 10:25 am

Not hang on just a minute, resident. Village High School is NOT a place for convicts in training or hoodlums. It's an incredibly nurturing environment for kids who for MANY reason aren't making it in the mainstream high schools. These are kids from OUR community, and many of them find exactly what they need at Village and go on to college, trade schools and good jobs precisely BECAUSE they were able to succeed at Village instead of failing at Amador or Foothill.

If a Foothill kid came onto the Amador campus and a major fight ensued, would you brand all the kids at Foothill and Amador as hoodlums?

Posted by Jon, a resident of Birdland
on May 6, 2010 at 10:30 am

resident you are a moron! So far off base it is not even funny. I hope that one day you have the pleasure of meeting some of the student body there. They are good group of kids with an excellent staff. I know kids at Amador and Foothill that have done much worse. Kids in an after school fight, wow never heard of that before. Those things never happen at other schools. I would bet you are the same guy that says no one good lives or comes from Oakland. Ignorance is bliss isn't it. And you don't even know the whole story. Pathetic!

Posted by a mom/teacher from Pleasanton, a resident of Stoneridge
on May 6, 2010 at 10:30 am

Dear resident--
Your ideas about the students of Village are biased and only partially correct! Not ALL students of Village are there because of vandalism & crime. Some students are at Village because they have different LEARNING styles and can't learn in the traditional environment. Feel blessed if your children learn like the "norm"...if you even have children! Attacking the principle for the students' action is cowardly and ignorant. Crime happens everywhere--believe it or not, EVEN here in Pleasanton!

Having said that I feel deeply sad for those attacked at Amador. I pray that they can feel safe again. I do feel the students at Village have too much time after school (they get out earlier than Foothill or Amador). I wish people like you could donate some time to get to know the youth that don't conform to your norm! I suggest the best way for you to do that is show up and help instead of sharing your biases of a program that you know nothing about!!!

Posted by Bill, a resident of Happy Valley
on May 6, 2010 at 10:35 am

"Journalism?" is right. Another sloppy article where facts are left out... No reason Glenn Wohltmann couldn't have included the date, he spoke with the police already. And Sarah, this was posted at 6:19 PM, hardly light at night unless you are 96 years old.

We have to remember this is the same "reporter", Glenn Wohltmann, that posted an article a couple weeks ago accusing a young Pleasanton man of raping a girl he didn't get along with- a man presumed innocent and maybe even falsely accused from what was presented. But Glenn listed the name of the man and included his photo- no journalistic need for it and only leading to harrassment to the boy and his family. They should have never posted it in the first place, it supposedly happened in Davis, not Pleasanton.

Pleasanton Weekly got a lot of criticism over the article, but instead of responding properly they censored and removed all of the posts, leaving the article and photo. None of the posts were offensive in any way, only critical of PW. No freedom of speech here...

Posted by Gary, a resident of Las Positas
on May 6, 2010 at 10:41 am

mom/teacher, you are right, crime happens, even here in Pleasanton. Though I think we all can agree that if these students at Village High were all locked up we'd have a little less of it. Certainly would have had less on Tuesday. Some people are an asset to society, some are not.

Posted by resident, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 6, 2010 at 11:18 am

Jon: "I hope that one day you have the pleasure of meeting some of the student body there. "
I have met plenty of them and not a single one with any redeeming qualities. I spend much time walking in and around the downtown area and have had more encounters with these creeps that I care to remember. Generally it involves trying to simply walk on the sidewalk and having a group of them, 3 or 4 abreast, slam into me as they refuse to give way for anyone else to pass. All of this while smoking, swearing and trashing the yards of those whose homes they walk past. Good group of kids my a**! They are not good kids, they are not contributing to the community and they are definitely not wanted there. As Gary, above, stated "Some people are an asset to society, some are not."

Posted by Jon, a resident of Birdland
on May 6, 2010 at 11:40 am

It is amazing how you can walk passed someone and know who they are and what school they go to. FYI... Some kids from Foothill just got busted for trashing some yards. Those creeps should be locked up! Right? Keep typing, because the more you do the more you look like an idiot.

Posted by Jon, a resident of Birdland
on May 6, 2010 at 11:50 am

Correction..... I meant "Past".

Doing too many things at once. I guess it is time to get off here and focus on my work. Something worth my time, Which resident clearly is not.

Posted by Gary, a resident of Las Positas
on May 6, 2010 at 12:26 pm

Jon wrote "Some kids from Foothill just got busted for trashing some yards. Those creeps should be locked up!"

I agree Jon. If kids are going around trashing yards they should be locked up no matter what school they go to. Not forever, but long enough to teach them a lesson, prevent them from influencing others, and to keep our yards clean.

Posted by Jon, a resident of Birdland
on May 6, 2010 at 12:38 pm

Come on. Locked up? You guys are ridiculous. I guess you guys never did anything as a youth that you might regret now. Move to a community where kids are not allowed. You are way too up tight.

Posted by cheaptalk, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 6, 2010 at 1:43 pm

i thought you had something else to do Jon

Posted by Marine Mom, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 6, 2010 at 1:56 pm

"resident" you REALLY tick me off. My son graduated from Village, became a United States Marine (Infantry) and is a war hero with a Purple Heart AND a Silver Star. That school is an absolute gem. Guess what they say is true - he fought so that people like you can look like fools (paraphrased...).

Posted by Jason, a resident of Sycamore Heights
on May 6, 2010 at 4:27 pm

Jon, you are the one who wrote those creeps, from Foothill who trashed yards, should be locked up... Others are only agreeing with you...

Marine Mom, the school might be a gem, but the attendees are not, at least ot when they enroll, or they wouldn't be there. It is good that your son turned his path around, but you say "he fought so that people like you can look like fools". Disappointing that he did not have better objectives in mind when he joined the marines.

Posted by guest, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 6, 2010 at 5:00 pm

you all criticize village students, but how about all the oh-so-great amador/foothill students who've gotten drunk and rapped their cars around a pole and died. i haven't seen that level of stupidity out of any village kids.

Posted by coco, a resident of Valley View Elementary School
on May 6, 2010 at 5:55 pm

Students end up in Village from poor academic records and behavior problems. I drive past Village on a daily basis. Do any of them seem like normal high school students?

I don't care about what those students do after high school or the people they become. There was a reason why they were forced to study at Village.

Posted by anon., a resident of Amador Valley High School
on May 6, 2010 at 6:34 pm

There are definaltly gangs in ptown...

Posted by resident, a resident of Birdland
on May 6, 2010 at 8:17 pm

Just an FYI- 1) Some children choose to go to Village. They just want to learn in a smaller environment and not be judged on appearance. 2) You drive by Village and think the kids there do not seem like "normal high school students". How sad that you are judging people on just the way they look. 3)I was just at Walgreens and there was a big group of kids who I know go to Amador and they looked just like any kids that I have seen at Village. There were 12 kids sitting right in front of the store smoking and hanging out!! Imagine that-they go to Amador! 4) I am sorry to tell all of you people, but they kids at Amador are not different than the kids at Village! 5) I guess all of the teaching of the children in these high schools and middle schools about respect, integrity, compassion, etc. sadly does not carry over to the adults in this community.

Posted by Follow Pleasanton Resident, a resident of Danbury Park
on May 6, 2010 at 8:19 pm

If half of you spent time working with the youth of our community insead fo knocking them maybe they all could rise to your expectations. Isn't it easy to cast the first stone. Become involved, create change and most of all give back, don't just sit on the sideline and complaim.

Posted by Keenan, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 7, 2010 at 1:45 pm

Stundets at village highschool vary in their lifestyle decisions. Yes there are some poor decisions made from some students there, but anyone who judges the school based on that is ridiculous and ignorant. Anyone who actually scratched the surface and saw what an excellent program and staff they have there would be stunned. People need to realize there "perfect little pleasanton children" arn't so perfect. Help your kids, pay attention to them. They are more important than money stop ignoring the real problems. Obviously i'm not afraid to show my name, so feel free to argue with me.

Posted by Keenan, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 7, 2010 at 1:46 pm

plus we've probably done more community service than kids at amador or foothill will EVER do in there lives.

Posted by Amador Parent, a resident of Amador Valley High School
on May 7, 2010 at 6:30 pm

My son said he saw the fight and, while there was plenty of blame on both sides, he says the majority of kids were Amador students. And, he adds, they walk around campus slamming into people, swearing, and bragging loudly about who they're going to beat up next. If Resident were to watch kids letting out at Amador he would see plenty of them with piercings, black clothes and cigarettes. He'll also see well-dressed kids with short haircuts driving BMWs. I'm sure he'll assume the former are hoodlums while the latter are great kids. The truth is there are great kids in both groups. But my son tells me the 'preppies' are the ones who drink and do drugs because they can afford to.

I've known kids who were struggling at Amador and ended up at Village. One was the most respectful child I've ever met, but suffered from anxiety and depression. She thrived in the less stressful, more supportive environment at Village. I guarantee she wasn't smoking or trashing yards, but Resident obviously never met her. Another was a hands-on learner who just couldn't do well in read-and-test classes. He did fine at Village, too, learned productive skills and for all I know he's fixed Resident's car and called him sir. But Resident didn't know he was a Village grad.

I thank God my kids have done well at Amador. But I also thank God that Village High School is there to help those who need it so they can find a productive path instead of dropping out.

So go ahead, Resident. Shake your cranky fist at 'those damn kids' all you want. Many of us in this community know that your predudices and assumptions are not supported by the facts.

Posted by wade, a resident of Foothill High School
on May 9, 2010 at 5:24 pm

To the people that made the negitive comments about village students,you are all a bunch of fools.I grew up in pleasanton and the same kind of stuff was going on back in the day.pleasanton people like to think they live in a perfect town,but they don't.theses people,I'll bet have kids going to amador/foothill doing the same stuff.Theses people do not want to admit the fact that there own kids are screw ups.I can say,that when I went school here I was not the best student.I did get into my fair share of trouble,but now am a productive person in in closing,to people that live near and around village school grow up and stop living in a glass house.Your kids are doing the same thing but covering it up better.I have met teachers and students that are at village.They are great people and do a wonderful job.just remember that school is there to help kids along rather than shove them aside.That seems to be waht pleasanton people waht to do.pleasanton people try not to be the problem but the solution and HELP!!!!!!

Posted by resident, a resident of Birdland
on May 9, 2010 at 7:56 pm

I agree with Keenan. There are some poor decisions made by children. But I wouldn't limit that comment to just children at Village. There are plenty of poor decisions made by children at Amador and Foothill also. Probably even more of the time! Village has a way more positive environment and attitude toward children than Amador of Foothill ever will. Village appreciate kids for who they are and not what they look like. They are not judged by appearances there like they are at the other 2 high schools in town. I think if you took the time to actually speak with anyone at Village, you would find them to all be wonderful kids!!

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