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VIVA ARIZONA, VIVA ARIZONA

Original post made by Joe on Apr 26, 2010

For having the GUTS to finally stand up and do something that the CLINTON, BUSH AND OBAMA administrations had no stomach for. The American race is not here to support the Mexican people and if the Mexican people have a problem with their govenrment, then it it is time for their REVOLUTION. Change your homeland and don't try to drag America down to your level...if you don't have the "guts" to change the problems of your homeland, then why nwould we want you here?...WE DON'T!

Comments (65)

Posted by Joe, a resident of Downtown
on Apr 26, 2010 at 6:58 pm

PS...I forgot the tee hee hee because I know that the little squirt will just have to chime in on this.


Posted by Pleasanton Mom, a resident of Birdland
on Apr 26, 2010 at 7:55 pm

Kudos, Joe, for speaking up for the American race!


Posted by letsgo, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 26, 2010 at 8:04 pm

I'll be honest, I'm not well informed about the immigration process, but I have known quite a few immigrants that are here legally (requiring visas and/or other documentation) and then became citizens or left. Why are there so many that seem to only want to be here illegally? Is it that difficult of a process?


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Apr 26, 2010 at 8:22 pm

Janna is a registered user.

PM,

LOL! The American race????? OMG! I've never heard that expression before. Please tell me what it means without using a color or the word American.


Posted by jimf01, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 26, 2010 at 8:27 pm

There you go again, Janna, with your bleeding-heart, PC, leftist, liberal drivel. I think you know that Joe means the non-Mexican population and DEFINITELY not Obama.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Apr 26, 2010 at 10:19 pm

jolene and family enjoying a warm bath! Web Link tee hee hee, tee hee hee...



Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Apr 26, 2010 at 10:33 pm

Web Link jim #2's Breakthrough movie as a lemur! tee hee hee, tee hee hee...

should he be stopped or plain ole deported? Please vote.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Apr 26, 2010 at 10:45 pm

in a way, maybe you should be more worried about one of your residents who is a student at UC Davis...a RAPIST? Web Link sad sad sad...


Posted by LMAO!, a resident of Golden Eagle
on Apr 26, 2010 at 10:51 pm

I just love listening to the uneducated babbling about an "American" race. Sorry to burst your bubble but I suggest you wake up and smell the taco. There is no American race...never had one and probably never will. Unless you have Native American ancestry in your blood, your family immigrated here just like the rest of us AMERICANS. Like it or not, this is an immigrant country, so deal with it.


Posted by Joe, a resident of Downtown
on Apr 27, 2010 at 1:49 am

There is an American race, Churchill knew it, and if you don't then it's time to leave "Golden Eagle" and "fly home"!


Posted by Sandy, a resident of Castlewood Heights
on Apr 27, 2010 at 8:58 am

American Race...that's pretty funny. If your post doesn't scream, "Angry towards Mexicans" I don't know what does! I'm not saying I don't agree with you - if you want to live in this country do it legally like every other hard-working American - and it pisses me off that these women cross the border just to have their babies in the US and they automatically become American citizens. We need a change and I commend Arizona for starting one. But American Race...come on. What is that? You're smarter than that. If you really think about it, what is American? I'm a US citizen but I don't consider myself American. I'm from Italian descent who's great great grandparents immigrated from Italy. Let's get a little bit more intelligent here.


Posted by stevep, a resident of Parkside
on Apr 27, 2010 at 9:20 am

The only groups that have trouble with AZ's new law are those with either:
1) something to hide;
2) Dems pandering for more dependent losers to vote for them;
3) bleeding hearts with no regard for our country's existing laws;
4) lawyers who stand to benefit from fighting sovereignty laws.
5) leftists who hate their country.


Posted by Pleasanton Mom, a resident of Birdland
on Apr 27, 2010 at 9:57 am

I did not post that comment above, someone used my name. I have not posted anything in three weeks.


Posted by jimf01, a resident of another community
on Apr 27, 2010 at 10:06 am

jimf01 is a registered user.

Someone is really bored. I did not post the above comment with jimf01 on it


Posted by jimf01, a resident of another community
on Apr 27, 2010 at 11:13 am

jimf01 is a registered user.

For everyones notice, you ought to read the legislation before you believe the nazi and papers please and racist charges being made against Arizona and the legislature there.
Web Link

The law specifies, off the top, that existing federal law is to be enforced everywhere in Arizona, and that immigration status is to be checked when "lawful contact" is made by AZ law enforcement. The major point of that is that a "let me see your papers" scenario is not lawful contact.
Arizona did not create the crisis of violence and crime taking place there, as the Governor of Arizona has stated. The federal government is not doing it's job, President Obama admitted that much in his statement criticizing Arizona for trying to take up the slack.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Apr 27, 2010 at 11:46 am

Web Link In my humble opinion, it is time to raise the ole Red, White, & Green! photo for your enjoyment!!!

As soon as I return to CA, I will be sharing pics I have of protesters in Arizona. Until then, have fun with the f l a g...tee hee hee, tee hee hee...

The US is UNABLE to STOP the illegal flow of immigrants into the US. Keep it simple!

tee hee hee, tee hee hee...


Posted by SteveP, a resident of Parkside
on Apr 27, 2010 at 1:03 pm

SteveP is a registered user.

Whatever happened to the border fence and the sniper towers? The drugs and violence can be stopped pretty quickly with lots of razor wire, a few well-placed hollow point rounds and the word of mouth taken back to Mexico to avoid sneaking into the U.S because they actually are going to enforce the existing border laws. Honestly, how can anyone have sympathy for the lawbreakers invading our country?


Posted by LMAO!, a resident of Golden Eagle
on Apr 27, 2010 at 1:25 pm

"Honestly, how can anyone have sympathy for the lawbreakers invading our country?"

And honestly, how can anyone have no sympathy for other human beings who are trying to make a better life for themselves and their family? To suggest that we sniper them for merely wanting a better life...I'm totally speechless and disgusted by all the hatred in our town. All you haters should be ashamed of yourself.

Let us not forget what some of ancestors saw when they came to this country...

"Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"


Posted by Dark Corners of Town, a resident of Country Fair
on Apr 27, 2010 at 1:42 pm

There is a well-known and well-used process for human beings who want to make a better life for themselves and their families by legally immigrating to the USA. The rest are (the correct term used is) 'illegal'.


Posted by LMAO!, a resident of Golden Eagle
on Apr 27, 2010 at 2:15 pm

Legal or illegal is only a matter of policy. That status does not make your so-called "illegals" any less human than you and me. Perhaps what we really need is immigration amnesty. Let's make these so-called "illegals" legal so they can realize their American Dream like the rest of us.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Apr 27, 2010 at 2:16 pm

The party is on the way: Web Link

VIVA! VIVA! VIVA!

ps the party will arrive in Pleasanton sooner than you think! tee hee hee, tee hee hee...


Posted by Rae, a resident of Mohr Park
on Apr 27, 2010 at 2:59 pm

The ONLY "American race" is that of Native Americans. Unless you're descended from the "people", everyone else came from somewhere else and is an immigrant to the United States.
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One of the most controversial provisions of Arizona Senate Bill 1070 is the requirement that people must prove they are legally in the U.S. when asked by a police officer. The *only* requirement for "lawful contact" in the new law is a "reasonable suspicion"..."that the person is an alien". Once contact is made, the police *only* have to make what they deem to be a "reasonable attempt"..."when practicable to determine the immigration status of the person" being questioned.

Although the new law "does not apply to a person who maintains authorization from the federal government to remain in the United States", *anyone* stopped by a police officer and asked for immigration status must ensure they have the appropriate paperwork on him or her or "shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall upon conviction for each offense be fined not to exceed $100 or be imprisoned not more than thirty days, or both." In addition, "A person who is sentenced pursuant to this section is not eligible for suspension or commutation of sentence or release on any basis until the sentence imposed is served."

So, if you're an American citizen (naturalized or born) living in or traveling through Arizona, and an AZ police officer has a "reasonable suspicion" that you must be an "alien" (oh for grins, let's say it's because you're *not* blond and blue-eyed), and you aren't carrying the appropriate "identification papers", you will be guilty of breaking AZ law and liable for a fine of up to $100 and 30 days in jail without the possibility of release.

Does this remind anyone else of scenarios that played out in Europe in the not so distant past? Not so surprising when you know that AZ Sen. Russell Pearce, the author of Arizona Senate Bill 1070, considers "aliens" to be "invaders, that's what they are. Invaders on the American sovereignty and it can't be tolerated." In 2006 he called for a reinstatement of a 1950s deportation plan called "Operation Wetback" which began in California and Arizona and involved "police sweeps of Mexican-American neighborhoods and random stops and ID checks of "Mexican-looking" people in a region with many Native Americans and native Hispanics". And then there's the West Virginia-based white supremacist group National Alliance article entitled "Who Rules America? The Alien Grip on Our News and Entertainment Media Must Be Broken" that Sen. Pearce e-mailed to his supporters. I wonder if Sen. Pearce's positions on immigration "reform" are one of the reasons he's a favorite AZ Tea Party speaker?

Web Link


Posted by J.G., a resident of Del Prado
on Apr 27, 2010 at 4:12 pm

Rae, Janna, LMAO,

Your racism is showing. Your support of importing and exploiting poor Hispanics to take the jobs of poor and mostly black Americans is truly disgusting. I imagine you do or have hired some of these people to do work at your homes at less than prevailing wages so that you can save a buck.


Posted by jimf01, a resident of another community
on Apr 27, 2010 at 4:18 pm

jimf01 is a registered user.

The *only* requirement for "lawful contact" in the new law is a "reasonable suspicion"..."that the person is an alien".

This is incorrect. The law states:

FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL...OF THIS STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN WHO IS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES

(caps are in the document, not mine)

The law does not state or create any definition of lawful contact (but lawful contact is well defined in existing law and legal precedent). The law further states that the immigration status is to be determined in accordance with existing federal law.

The governor also signed an executive order mandating training for all law enforcement on implementation of the law.
Web Link
The governor also released a statement repeating her "steadfast support for enforcing the law — both AGAINST illegal immigration AND against racial profiling."

If the people of Arizona do not like the conduct and statements of a state legislator, they can vote him out.

Also this is not true:

if you're an American citizen (naturalized or born) and ...you aren't carrying the appropriate "identification papers", you will be guilty of breaking AZ law and liable for a fine of up to $100 and 30 days in jail without the possibility of release.

This entire scenario applies to the USC sections 1304(e) OR 1306(a). These are existing federal law stating that aliens must register and that they must carry an alien registration card at all times. If you are not an alien, this doesn't apply to you.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Apr 27, 2010 at 4:21 pm

Rabbi Hier: Web Link Jewish leader weighs in on new Arizona law!

Thank you Rabbi Hier.


Posted by jimf01, a resident of another community
on Apr 27, 2010 at 4:21 pm

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The governor further states here:

Web Link

Despite erroneous and misleading statements suggesting otherwise, the new state misdemeanor crime of willful failure to complete or carry an alien registration document is adopted, verbatim, from the same offense found in federal statute.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Apr 27, 2010 at 4:47 pm

The law will be put to a test...be patient! Discrimination will NOT PREVAIL!


Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin
on Apr 27, 2010 at 4:48 pm

Janna is a registered user.

JG,

Huh? When did anyone say anything racist? I think you're really confused.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Apr 27, 2010 at 5:04 pm

The fight is about to start. Students will now have a golden opportunity to understand how the US Constitution will guide our country through this mess!

Hopefully, it will eventually lead to sound US immigration policy!

VIVA AMERICA! VIVA!

Re: JG = Donkey! tee hee hee, tee hee hee...


Posted by jimf01, a resident of another community
on Apr 27, 2010 at 5:07 pm

Janna - JG's point, and I agree, is that acceptance of illegal immigrants living and working amongst us is tacit acceptance of racism. It maintains a group of second-class citizens we all take advantage of, because we all patronize businesses that hire illegals, whether we are willing to admit it or not.

Many business owners, politicians and citizens want to continue the wink and a nod policy of allowing illegal immigrants to continue living amongst us, separate and unequal.

Why is doing the ethical and humane thing so tough? Enforce existing law with regard to public services and employment-based verification of legal status. No jobs, no welfare, no schools = no illegals.

Simultaneously, establish a fair guest worker program. Why should immigration reform include any advantage for people who broke the law to come here? Joining a guest worker program should only be possible by returning to the embassy in the home country of the immigrant. That would be fair for all immigrants, regardless of country of origin. It would also enable tracking of legal presence and identification of who is entering the country.

Of course, securing the borders is required, or we might as well forget the whole damn thing.

The reason why it will not happen, money and power. The business lobby will not allow their cheap source of labor to go away, and the Democrats will not allow a potential bloc of new voters to go away, not to mention alienating all of their legal friends who are currently voting.


Posted by LMAO!, a resident of Golden Eagle
on Apr 27, 2010 at 5:24 pm

@ jimf01 and J G: That is precisely why I strongly believe we need immigration amnesty. So-called "illegals" will become legal U.S. residents/citizens and pay their fair share of taxes. It's a win win for everyone.


Posted by jimf01, a resident of another community
on Apr 27, 2010 at 5:32 pm

It is inherently unfair, especially to people like my family members who have been waiting in the legal line for YEARS. Just because an ocean separates their country from ours and they cannot walk in to the United States and they decided to obey the laws, they will be forced to wait even longer while we give amnesty to law breakers? Shameful, absolutely shameful.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Apr 27, 2010 at 6:22 pm

poor baby jimmy....tell your family to go back to where their ancestors are from...AMNESTY is on the way! HOORAY!

it breaks my heart to hear all about your honest family members...tee hee hee, tee hee hee...


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Apr 27, 2010 at 6:25 pm

Web Link In my humble opinion, the teen in this video is who needs to be deported...PRONTO!


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Apr 27, 2010 at 6:45 pm

I can just see these tweety birds singing' up a storm at Farmer's Market on Sundays...precious or what? Everybody could offer a tip and then say More More! HOORAY!

It would be soooooooooooooo much fun...don't you agree? Web Link Hmmmmmmmmmmmm...


Posted by Rat Turd, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 27, 2010 at 7:34 pm

jimf01:

First you claimed that the law does not simply allow authorities to check papers based only on reasonable suspicion, but then you copied and pasted the wording from the bill IN ALL CAPS that says just that. OOPS! Maybe Pleasanton Mom can give you some tips on how to cut and paste selective bits of propaganda.

Then you wrote: "acceptance of illegal immigrants living and working amongst us is tacit acceptance of racism. It maintains a group of second-class citizens"

Jim, do you understand that illegal immigrants are NOT citizens? If so, why on earth do you object to them being treated like "second-class" citizens? Or are you arguing that they SHOULD be treated like citizens? Or...what?

Oh, and please explain your logic that those who oppose Arizona's law are racist. How is it NOT racist to profile people by their ethnic heritage? Some might say that was the definition.


Posted by jimf01, a resident of another community
on Apr 27, 2010 at 9:09 pm

No, it does not say that, read the legislation. The law does not say that, and the statement from the Governor, and the instructions for implementing the new law do not say that.

But you have to have an understanding of what lawful contact is, so I will excuse you on that one RT.

The use of word citizens after second class may have been a poor choice, but they are living here, and people are OK with them being separate and unequal, so they are de facto citizens we are discriminating against because of their illegal status. They are FLAUNTING our laws. Does that not mean anything to anyone?

I am arguing that the current situation has to change, and I think you know that. I depart from the views of many conservatives in how to change that situation. I think I explained the "Or..what" you are asking. Or did you not read and understand that either RT?

1> secure the borders, and that is not just fences, etc. lots of people who did not come across our northern and southern borders are overstaying tourist visas (some of the 9-11 terrorists came in on tourist or education-based visas)
2> establish a guest worker program to enable immigrants to do the "jobs Americans will not do" and pay taxes, etc.
3> enforce immigration laws which are on the books

The new AZ law would have never become an issue if our federal government, going back to well before Obama was our President, had taken care of business and enacted legislation that the American people want. It is a perfect illustration of the total dysfunction of our Congress.

This is another issue that boils down to corruption and campaign money. Congress will not do the right thing because the special interests that finance their campaigns tell them to ignore the will of the people and enact ANOTHER(and that's important too, we did amnesty already in 1986, and we are back in the same place) amnesty program.


Posted by Rat Turd, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 27, 2010 at 9:16 pm

"(some of the 9-11 terrorists came in on tourist or education-based visas)"

So now Mexicans living in the US with expired visas are equivalent to the 9/11 terrorists.

You're quite a piece of work, my friend!


Posted by jimf01, a resident of another community
on Apr 27, 2010 at 9:23 pm

you are making things up now dude, it is just another good reason to tighten up the visa process, come on get real


Posted by Rat Turd, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 27, 2010 at 9:44 pm

Are you claiming that those weren't your words, "dude?"


Posted by Jen, a resident of Canyon Oaks
on Apr 28, 2010 at 7:45 am

I just have one question....who's going to take my order at Taco Bell now?


Posted by Rae, a resident of Mohr Park
on Apr 28, 2010 at 8:01 am

"jimf01"
Not only is the AZ law NOT "reform", it does *nothing*, let me repeat that, *nothing* towards "secur{ing] the borders", " establish[ing] a guest worker program" or " enforc[ing] immigration laws which are on the books".

If you really believe that all the AZ Gov has to do is wave her magic wand and say "reasonable suspicion is not racial profiling", then why didn't she just use her wand to say "you will enforce the immigration laws which are on the books"?

Arizona already has a law on the books, also written by Sen. Pearce, entitled "Legal Arizona Workers Act". This employer sanctions law "allows the state to severely punish — even revoke the license — of businesses caught hiring illegal aliens and requires them to verify workers' legal status." It's already been through the federal courts and has been upheld. Why then, is this law not being enforced?

Evidently, "it doesn't give county prosecutors charged with pursuing violators civil subpoena power to examine personnel records that could help prove illegal aliens were knowingly hired. This sort of subpoena power is granted to other administrative agencies that enforce similar statutes, the frustrated prosecutors in Arizona's 15 counties say. Without it, authorities are forced to rely on the voluntary disclosure of crucial personnel records by the very businesses being investigated. Not surprisingly, all the accused have opted not to cooperate." Web Link

So, bypassing an opportunity to shore up the gaps in a law already on the books that goes after business owners, AZ has chosen, instead, to basically say anyone of Native American or Hispanic descent is under "reasonable suspicion" of being illegal unless they can prove otherwise. Heaven forbid that a Republican govenor in a red state p*ss off the voting business owners.



Posted by jimf01, a resident of another community
on Apr 28, 2010 at 10:06 am

jimf01 is a registered user.

point by point:

RT: Are you claiming that those weren't your words?
I am claiming you twisted my words; persons living in the US with expired visas are NOT equivalent to the 9/11 terrorists, and I didn't try to imply that in any way. It is an additional reason to tighten up the visa process, germane to the topic only in that way.

AZ law is NOT "reform",
it does *nothing*... towards "secur{ing] the borders",
nothing to "establish a guest worker program"

all correct - but see that is the old Clinton trick where he would run down a proposed law in Congress by saying what it did NOT do. Any law can be derided in a similar manner, by saying what it does not do. It is silly. On top of that, an individual state has no authority to create law pertaining to much of what you are saying that this AZ law does not do, so the points are quite moot.

enforc[ing] immigration laws which are on the books".

that is incorrect, in fact that is mainly what it does

If you really believe that all the AZ Gov has to do is wave her magic wand and say "reasonable suspicion is not racial profiling", then why didn't she just use her wand to say "you will enforce the immigration laws which are on the books"?

OK, kinda nonsense since I didn't say anything about a magic wand, but I think you are trying to get at that just because the Governor says it does not make it so. True enough. But what this AZ law does, mainly, once again, is enforce federal law that the federal government is failing to enforce.

As for the other law you refer to, I don't know much about it but what I quickly read just now, if the AZ created legislation that is full of fail and loopholes, then they are a lot like the US Congress in that respect.
I agree with your suspicion of the motive of the AZ Governor and legislature to not want to PO business owners. As I said in other posts last night, our legislators (state and fed) have been failing to do the right thing for a long time now due to corruption and special interests influence.
Of course, we are going to disagree in many cases on what the 'right thing' is.

President Obama went out yesterday and said this:

"you can try to make it really tough on people who look like they, quote, unquote look like illegal immigrants. One of the things that the law says is that local officials are allow to ask somebody who they have a suspicion might be an illegal immigrant for their papers - but you can imagine if you are a Hispanic American in Arizona, your great, great grandparents may have been there before Arizona was even a state. But now suddenly if you don't have your papers and you took your kid out to get ice cream, you're going to be harassed, that's something that could potentially happen."

Web Link

That is just an unbelievable statement from our President. It is highly irresponsible for the President to accuse law enforcement of harassment that hasn't occurred (2nd time he has done that, i.e. Cambridge cops acted stupidly). Obama refers to "your great, great grandparents may have been there before Arizona was even a state", he is portraying someone who is a descendant of a Mexican who lived in what is now Arizona before it was part of the USA. And to 'imagine' something that 'could potentially happen', it is just beyond the pale for a POTUS to be giving speeches envisioning a scenario such as that, IMO. It is fear-based politics, wrong on both sides of the aisle.


Posted by Clueless, a resident of Heritage Oaks
on Apr 28, 2010 at 10:29 am

"It is highly irresponsible for the President to accuse law enforcement of harassment that hasn't occurred"

Law enforcement harassing the innocents? No, that NEVER happens in this wonderful country. Thank GOD we have a president who understands. Long live Obama!


Posted by jimf01, a resident of another community
on Apr 28, 2010 at 10:32 am

jimf01 is a registered user.

Well, I'll be! Right after Obama made this outrageous statement, he endorsed almost exactly what I wrote above needs to be done.

1 - make them register,
2 - make them pay a fine
3 - make them learn English (this got applause)
4 - make them take responsibility for the fact they broke the law
5 - make them get in the back of the line (greeted with silence)

he left out securing the borders, but maybe it was there in the endorsement of a 'comprehensive approach'

What do you think are the chances this will ever see the light of day as Federal legislation? And if passed, what are the chances it would be enforced?


Posted by jimf01, a resident of another community
on Apr 28, 2010 at 10:33 am

jimf01 is a registered user.

here is the link Web Link


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Apr 28, 2010 at 12:11 pm

Web Link tee hee hee, tee hee hee...

Where there is a will, there is a way!

ILLEGALS ON THE MARCH!


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Apr 28, 2010 at 6:25 pm

Web Link Multiple Jewish groups nationwide speaking out against the Arizona immigration law.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Apr 28, 2010 at 6:30 pm

Web Link VIVA Israel! VIVA!


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Apr 28, 2010 at 6:34 pm

Southern Poverty Law Center weighs in on Arizona Immigration Law: Violates the US Constitution! Web Link

The Constitution of the United States will trump unjust state law!

VIVA AMERICA! VIVA!


Posted by frank, a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Apr 28, 2010 at 8:55 pm

"american race". Actually, I understand if you do DNA testing on true Americans you will find two haplogroup sequences that are unique to Americans. These sequences are J-I-M-F-O-1 and P-L-E-A-S-A-N-T-O-N-M-O-M on the DNA chain. Lack of their presence is 1 in a trillion chances they are American. Therefore, Arizona law should have included DNA testing as required documentation on anyone stopped by police suspected of being an illegal immigrant.


Posted by jimf01, a resident of another community
on Apr 29, 2010 at 8:10 am

Thanks for the race-baiting troll attempt frank, you have a great day!


Posted by Maria, a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Apr 29, 2010 at 9:39 am


California should follow Arizona's lead.

Protect our country from the mess that is Mexico!!!!


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Apr 29, 2010 at 12:46 pm

Don't count on it Maria!


Posted by Anonnymous, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 29, 2010 at 1:25 pm

I don't see what the big deal is? If you're not an illegal immigrant, then you should be able to prove it. How else are we supposed to catch people that are in our country illegally, we have to ask them. As far as profiling goes? Thats life! When I drove a beat up gangster car, I knew that I was going to be pulled over? When I go certain places and I wear a black hoodie and a beanie, then I know that the police might want to see what I'm up too. I don't stand there and cry that I'm being picked on, and "profiled."
The only time I was against being checked by authorities, was when I had something to hide. If you are legal, then there shouldn't be any problem with showing documentation. Let the authorities do their jobs.


Posted by Stating the obvious, a resident of Golden Eagle
on Apr 29, 2010 at 1:44 pm

"When I drove a beat up gangster car, I knew that I was going to be pulled over? When I go certain places and I wear a black hoodie and a beanie"

Those are choices you can make. You can't "choose" to look non-Hispanic. When you have cops profiling people based on skin color of individuals, that violates their civil rights, PERIOD!


Posted by Anonnymous, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 29, 2010 at 2:46 pm

Thats just sily. Are you telling me that they are going to question every single hispanic they see? There isn't enough time in a day to do that. Look, Mexico is a different coulture and they have different nuances to the way they dress, speak, and act compared to the spanish speaking citizens in this country. So to clarify, they are NOT going solely off skin color. I know plenty of mexicans (from mexico) that are alot lighter skin toned than me. If the authorities see someone that gives them reason to believe they MIGHT be illegal, then they should have the right to investigate. Thats what they're job is, and thats what they get paid to do. They are trained and taught to know these differences. It's unbelievable that someone would say that its wrong for the authorities to ask for identification or documentation. So the next time a police officer asks for my ID, I can deny him and claim my rights were violated? Thats what you're saying. How do you think that would work out for me?


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Apr 29, 2010 at 3:58 pm

duh...stumps me!


Posted by Clueless, a resident of Heritage Oaks
on May 2, 2010 at 7:01 pm

"If the authorities see someone that gives them reason to believe they MIGHT be illegal, then they should have the right to investigate."

That's really the problem, isn't it? If EVERYONE is required to make their pass visible at all times, that is fine. We're not singling out anyone based on their looks or race. But if only a certain population of a minor group is targeted because of their race or the way they look, that is plain wrong.


Posted by PC, a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on May 2, 2010 at 7:17 pm

Let's allow this to continue to spill into our country. We will be nice and PC while they kill people.

Mexican drug violence claims 24 lives in 24 hours
All the slayings occurred in public places, including a bar.
Violence result of battle between two cartels, said attorney general's spokesman.
Web Link


Posted by PC, a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on May 2, 2010 at 7:17 pm

Let's allow this to continue to spill into our country. We will be nice and PC while they kill people.

Mexican drug violence claims 24 lives in 24 hours
All the slayings occurred in public places, including a bar.
Violence result of battle between two cartels, said attorney general's spokesman.
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Posted by Clueless, a resident of Heritage Oaks
on May 2, 2010 at 7:29 pm

@PC - you're way off topic

Don't support a law that discriminate against our Hispanic American citizen. If we tolerate that, then which minority group is next? Are we going to do the same with our Canadian neighbors also?


Posted by Janet, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 2, 2010 at 8:02 pm

Well it seems to me that if you are here legally then there is nothing to worry about. Case closed.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on May 3, 2010 at 2:39 pm

Web Link Ethnic Chinese ILLEGALS in Arizona!


Posted by Dark Corners of Town, a resident of Country Fair
on May 3, 2010 at 5:06 pm

SB1070 would apply to *all* illegals.


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