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Finally...A California School Board with Guts...

Original post made by Dark Corners of Town on Apr 24, 2010

...to respond intelligently to the economic environment.
Web Link
A permanent 10% cut in salaries.
I'm sure teachers unions across the country are paying attention to trends in Florida, New Jersey and others of addressing the reduction in revenue with a reduction in expense cost structure in order to protect services.

Comments (17)

Posted by Way to go board!, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 24, 2010 at 1:21 pm

"Nearly 600 substitute teachers were hired to supervise classrooms."

The unions of course do what they do best: picket, make noise, demand and cost money.

Do you realize how much money it costs to hire 600 subs? Even at a low pay of 100 dollars/day (common in most districts) that is 60000 just for one Day!

I am glad to see there is a board/district out there who is not afraid of making the right financial decisions. I guess the people knew better than to elect "yes" men or non-college-degreed members to their board (unlike people here in Pleasanton)


Posted by Pete, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 24, 2010 at 3:58 pm

To Way to go board! Much of our Country's foundation was built with self educated men and women. It is the Professionally Educated Idiots(like yourself)who got us in this mess in the first place.At least you know basic math. Non-college degreed members is not the problem.


Posted by Dark Corners of Town, a resident of Country Fair
on Apr 24, 2010 at 10:22 pm

And another.....Oakland Unified imposes contract (Web Link) and teachers will strike April 29th.
For grins, go to the teachers' blog about the strike (Web Link) and find the misspelled words.


Posted by Oakland Teacher, a resident of another community
on Apr 26, 2010 at 2:33 am

Hear in Oaklande, we don't have no problam with speling. I teech 4th grayde and I can do good in teh clasroom.


Posted by Larry, a resident of Deer Oaks/Twelve Oaks
on Apr 26, 2010 at 8:48 am

It's about time, what is it that the Unions don't get. No Money means no money.


Posted by Joe, a resident of Danbury Park
on Apr 26, 2010 at 9:05 am

Good thing the teachers don't work for Castlewood! They would be locked out if they did not like the new salary/benefit package.


Posted by mumof2, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 26, 2010 at 10:04 am

No money means no money and it is not going to get any better in the future. The pledge drive many school districts are having is only a temporary fix. What will happen the following year? Another pledge drive? Everyone (including my family budget) needs to make cuts, save and hold on tight for a rocky ride.


Posted by Question?, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 26, 2010 at 12:48 pm

The article says the following:

"[Oakland] School Board President Gary Yee said the board imposed the contract to avoid a return to state receivership. At the same time, Yee said the board did not want to cut teachers' salaries, which start at about $39,000 and average about $55,000.

By contrast, credentialed teachers in San Francisco start at $50,000, with average about $62,000."

What are the starting and average teacher salaries here in P-ton again? I know it's been discussed, but I can't recall the numbers. Thanks.


Posted by Edward, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 26, 2010 at 12:53 pm

It's unbelievable how people whine about the compensation that teachers are getting, but don't seem to have any problem at all with giving outrageous compensation to policemen, firemen, prison guards, and the dolts that work in Sacramento. In many of the countries that are kicking our collective a**es right now, teaching is the most respected and highly compensated profession.

Here the K-12 education system is what it is because of:
1) Tuned-out, lazy parents
2) Incompetent school boards
3) Incompetent administrators (often teachers that couldn't cut it in the classroom).

My stereotype of the tuned-out parent is the dope that is knocking down $400,000 a year, lives in a $2 million home, drives a Beemer, spends his entire weekend boating on the Delta, takes his kids out of school for 2-3 weeks a year to go on a vacation, thinks the most important thing for his kids to do is play sports, doesn't have a clue as to whether his kids are doing their homework or attending class, and his favorite sport is bitching to teachers because his kids are flunking and teachers are earning too much.

Teaching is the most thankless profession there is, so keep on bitching. The more you bitch, the fewer people there will be that want to put up with the bitching dolt parents and incompetent administrators.

And, in case you are wondering, I am not a teacher (thank God).


Posted by Mary, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 26, 2010 at 1:18 pm

"It's unbelievable how people whine about the compensation that teachers are getting, but don't seem to have any problem at all with giving outrageous compensation to policemen, firemen, prison guards "

While I agree that something must be done about the compensation plans, and specifically the ridiculously generous pension packages, those positions all come with a significant degree of risk. The biggest threat in a Pleasanton teacher's day is the box of doughnuts in the lounge.


Posted by letsgo, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 26, 2010 at 2:07 pm

"ridiculously generous pension packages"

I'm curious as to what is so ridiculous about the pension packages?

I don't know much about them other than the teacher puts in about 8% of their salary and the district about the same. I may be wrong, but I don't think the district has any financial obligations once the employee leaves the ditrict, the pension is all through CalSTRS.

As far as I know the pension, while considred slightly underfunded, has never needed additional outside funding from the state in fact, the state borrowed 2 or 3 billion a couple years ago. I would also guess with the large number of reduced teachers in the state the the pension fund will actually get healthier.


Posted by teacher, a resident of Golden Eagle
on Apr 26, 2010 at 2:21 pm

Edward: AMEN!!

Mary: We haven't received a box of doughnuts in quite some time now but what a treat that would be! If that were our biggest threat, wouldn't that be lovely. My biggest threat would be the layoff notice I received. All those doughnuts you must be eating have gone to your head...


Posted by Police Wife, a resident of Country Fair
on Apr 26, 2010 at 2:47 pm

Think again please. The most thankless jobs that come first are the Police and Firefighters. Police very seldom get thanked, get spit upon often, yelled at up against danger at any given moment, talked nasty to, try to calm or arrest unruly and unreasonable people etc.. They place their lives on the line for us everyday and night. They work longer days, different shifts, weekends and try to fit their Family life into their professions. Many times, they are forced to work double shifts and on their days off. Time with their Families is limited, so when they do have time off (while their kids are not in school)they make the best of the time they have with their Families. Because of the type of environment they work in, plus the daily stress recived from seeing abuse and even death, they often become cynical. This all plays on their physical and emotional health. Most tragically, sometimes they never come home again! They more than earn their pensions and benefits.


Posted by Police Wife, a resident of Country Fair
on Apr 26, 2010 at 2:57 pm

I am re-writing this, as I unfortunately noticed that some words were misspelled in my original post. I apologize.
Think again please. The most thankless jobs are Police and Firefighters. Police very seldom get thanked. They get spat on, yelled at, and face danger at any given moment. They place their lives on the line for us every day. They work longer days, different shifts,and weekends. Time with their families is limited, so when they do have time off (while their kids are not in school) they make the best of their time with their families. Because of the type of environment they work in, plus the daily stress received from seeing abuse and even death, they often become cynical. This all plays on their physical and emotional health. Most tragically, sometimes they never come home again! They more than earn their pensions and benefits


Posted by Thomas Paineful, a resident of Downtown
on Apr 26, 2010 at 4:55 pm

Hm, people are outraged at the cost of substitute teachers ($100 a day), but not at the parents who pull their kids out of school for family vacations, etc? That costs a school district ADA (Average Daily Attendance) money and things such as "senior skip days" cost PUSD thousands of dollars a year!

But yeah, let's blame the teachers. I hear the teachers' unions also caused global warming and the eruption of that volcano in Iceland.


Posted by bogart, a resident of Amador Estates
on Apr 26, 2010 at 7:19 pm

I hear the teachers union colluded with George Bush to cause Hurricane Katrina and steer it into the poor areas of New Orleans.

Please stop lumping policeman and fireman into the same category of dangerous jobs. Policeman live with the uncertainty of not knowing who they are dealing with every time they make a traffic stop, people (criminals especially) hate police and have no problems trying to inflict harm. Who hates firefighters? No one is going to jump out of a fire and start shooting at them. And the firefighters in across all 10 districts in the LPFD only respond to a fire incident on average a little over once per day.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate all the work they do, but there is a whole different realm between police and fire fighters. There are areas of the country where I'm sure its more dangerous to be a teacher than a fire fighter


Posted by Mary, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 26, 2010 at 11:16 pm

I was referring to the three point pension system. Teachers are not part of that package. And I was trying to point out that dangerous work that demands 24/7/365 coverage can hardly be equated to the part time profession of teaching in public schools.


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