CORE Campaign Video- Please donate $150 and forward to your friends Schools & Kids, posted by Concerned Parent, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 24, 2010 at 11:28 am
If you have children that attend a school in Pleasanton but havenīt made your $150 donation to the CORE campaign, please watch the following video and forward to your friends. We might be just a click away of reaching our fundraising goal. All schools and parents need to get together in benefit of our children.
Posted by Why give ?, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 24, 2010 at 1:15 pm
The fundraising is for items many don't agree with. Valuable programs were cancelled and not included in the fundraising. The money is to pay the salary of the librarians and tech support person - given that other more valuable programs were eliminated, and there are no plans to use any of the money for them, why should we donate?
Upper grade students have been affected - their programs eliminated in order to fund elementary programs.
It is up to the elementary parents to donate. Upper grade students by now know how to use the public libraries as well as be computer savvy. It is the young kids that need the help, and since the elementary parents managed to keep all their programs at the expense of the upper grades, I will not help them raise money for libraries and computers as well.
Posted by Why give, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 24, 2010 at 1:32 pm
"High schools generally have higher operational costs than elementary schools."
One of the programs eliminated cost 442K (cost for both high schools). This was one of the items eliminated (concessions) in order to fund, among other things, 930K of elementary programs (music, PE, science specialists)
In another post, Sandy P. asked how we can avoid dividing the community (grade levels) - how about not taking money from one grade level to give to another?
Colleges do NOT look at whether a student took Music or PE or Science with a specialist. They do, however, look at how competitive a high school curriculum is, what the SAT scores are.
What is going to happen next year? The money from concessions is only good for one year. What then? Continue to take from one grade to give to the other? Why not freeze step and column instead? Why not reform spending in the district?
I will not give to CORE, and I have a child in elementary. I know she does NOT need specialists for Science or Music or PE.
I wish people stopped harassing us about giving. They stand in front of the schools, they send emails, and now a video? Give if you agree with the nonsense, and stop asking the rest of us to give
Posted by Perhaps..., a resident of the Golden Eagle neighborhood, on Apr 24, 2010 at 10:53 pm
PPIE thinks they are smarter than the rest of us so they just randomly decided to raise money to fund programs and staff that not many people really care about. If they were using those donations to reduce class size, I would happily donate more than $150.
Posted by To "Just the facts", a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 25, 2010 at 6:20 am
"Elementary programs were cut heavily. Class sizes were raised."
Class sizes were also raised in the upper grades, and btw, that was all for the 2009-10 school year. For this coming 2010-11 school year, class sizes will not be raised and will be staying at 25. And in elementary, no programs were cut other than those affecting all grade levels (librarians, tech for instance). However, in order to keep the union's negotiated prep periods, the board voted to eliminate programs for upper grades and use the money to fund PE, Music, Science specialists in elementary.
All districts in the bay area raised class size, even districts like San Ramon, etc which had passed parcel taxes specifically for csr. Not all districts, however, chose to take money from the upper grades to fund programs in k-5, but PUSD did, and now they are raising money for the WRONG thing.
Posted by Stacey, can you provide numbers?, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 25, 2010 at 7:32 am
"High schools generally have higher operational costs than elementary schools."
They also have more students (2000+) compared to an individual elementary (700 at most), the campuses are bigger, and if I am not mistaken, districts with high schools only (9-12) receive more funding per student than k-8 districts. There is a reason for that: a bigger campus with more students is more expensive to run. That does not mean that the extra money should be taken away from high schools to give more per student to elementaries. It would be like having two houses, one is 1200 sq ft and the other 4000 sq ft: you do not allocate the same amount of money for electricity for both, unless you are dumb.
Stacey, can you tell me how much money PUSD receives per high school, middle school and elementary students?
I find it hard to believe that all expenses are bigger at the high school. Librarians for instance. We only have two high schools, so two librarians at most. We have however 9 elementaries, so how many librarians?
Of course a bigger campus with bigger facilities will cost more to maintain. That is why it is so much nonsense to take needed money away from the upper grades to give to elementaries.
Oh yeah, and as far as I know a k-5 student has only ONE teacher, whereas 6-12 students have a different teacher for each subject. You are not suggesting to have only one teacher for the upper grades, are you?
Posted by Stacey, can you provide numbers?, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 25, 2010 at 7:43 am
One more thing:
Stacey, please provide the cost of running ONE high school; that way we can multiply by two and figure out how much it costs to run the high schools in PUSD. Please include the cost per student as well as how much money PUSD gets per student.
Also provide the cost of running ONE elementary; we can then multiply that by 9 and figure out the cost of running elementaries. Include the spanish immersion school as separate, as I am sure that costs more to run. Please include the cost per student as well as how much money PUSD gets per student. Here please include the cost of k-3 and 4-5 students (CSR is very expensive and only provided in k-3, once a student gets to 4th grade they get placed in classes with up to 35 students, and that was the case even before the budget cuts)
Provide numbers because I have seen your statement in other forums, you always say that but have never provided facts. I am not saying I do not believe it (again, a bigger campus with more students would be more costly, that is a no brainer; of course, who knows how much they really allocate for that since elementaries seem to be loud and getting what they want mostly because of union obligations) but it would be good to see numbers and facts.
Posted by Stating the obvious, a resident of the Golden Eagle neighborhood, on Apr 25, 2010 at 9:25 am
Children build their foundation and habits in learning during the elementary years. Once they're in middle and high school, they have already acquired the skills necessary to work independently in school. Consequently, allocating more fundings to the elementary level make sense.
Posted by So then...., a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 25, 2010 at 12:46 pm
"Children build their foundation and habits in learning during the elementary years. Once they're in middle and high school, they have already acquired the skills necessary to work independently in school. Consequently, allocating more fundings to the elementary level make sense."
Middle and high school students can work independently, but they still need to have the classes available to them. Taking the funds from them does not make sense. Getting rid of classes and programs for them does not make sense. I do agree that they can work independently, so you may want to email the board with your input, that way they will know that we do not need: AVID, remedial math, remedial English, librarians.
We do however, need to have the classes available, the periods available. College entrance should be a goal.
By the way, a good teacher should be able to teach what the science specialist does because Science at the elementary level is very basic. The focus needs to be on reading and math. Obviously, PUSD is not doing a good job for everyone because many kids end up in the remedial math classes, and AVID program, and use Barton. Maybe if the elementaries got rid of the extra nonsense and focused on the basic, students would actually be prepared to move on to the upper grades.
My kids are thankfully great students and do not need help, but we know some people whose kids struggle and they have been struggling since elementary.
Rather than being held back, these students were promoted to the next grade, where they only fell behind more and their classmates suffered as well because of the pace of the class.
Elementary students do not need science specialists, their main teacher can take care of that. And no, taking money from the upper grades to fund elementaries is wrong. Maybe we need to have three "general funds" : one for elementaries and one for middle schools and one for high schools. That way each grade level does what they can with what they get from the state, rather than allowing a grade level to steal from another.
Posted by letsgo, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Apr 26, 2010 at 2:12 pm
Its called a donation, so you don't have to do it. If you feel your money would be better spent elsewhere, I'm sure you can find the program of your choice privately. The district made decisions and those are what we have.
"PPIE thinks they are smarter than the rest of us so they just randomly decided to raise money to fund programs and staff that not many people really care about. If they were using those donations to reduce class size, I would happily donate more than $150."
They are a private organization that can raise money for whatever they want. You can start raising funds specifically for class size reduction. You can also join the PPIE board and help make these decisions. These are volunteers in the community offering their time and services to help make the schools a better place. I'm sure many of them are smarter than the rest of us.
Posted by Techie, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 18, 2010 at 2:55 pm
Don't complain too loudly when your students come home and have to do their powerpoints, research papers home as homework (egad!!!!) because the computers have fallen apart in their labs because there are no site techs to there to maintain them!
Good luck to the schools that have spent thousands of dollars of PFC or PTA funds for those spiffy smart classrooms...there will be no one there to maintain that investment. More money down the drain!