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Atheist loses court challengeagainst use of 'God' on pledge, on money

Original post made on Mar 12, 2010

An atheist who lost a challenge to the use of the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools yesterday said the case isn't over and has promised further appeals.

Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, March 12, 2010, 6:51 AM

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Posted by Anonymous
a resident of another community
on Mar 12, 2010 at 7:25 am


If this woman is an atheist she should just tell her child not to recite that part of the pledge of allegiance. Problem solved. At times I think some people are more interested in causing trouble than anything else.

Look at the problems that many of the california school systems are having. Layoffs are in the works in many school districts, even in cases where a parcel tax was passed. Why can't this woman take the same energy and put it into finding creative ways to deal with the school cutbacks? Why not work as a volunteer in the school system in one way or another? If this person has a day job that doesn't allow for flexible time off during the day or afternoon, then why not offer to help with things that can be done at home on the computer? (contacting other parents, coordinating programs, etc.)



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Posted by Unbelievable
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 12, 2010 at 8:57 am

"An atheist who lost a challenge to the use of the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance in public schools"

This woman is wrong and should not be allowed further appeals and waste of time and money for both schools and courts.

It is not the public school's decision for the Pledge of Allegiance to have the words "under God" - if the woman wants to challenge that, it should be at a federal level for everything: being sworn in when you testify in court, the president himself recited that during the inauguration, etc. Stop the nonsense!

I have a friend who is an atheist, and I myself do not go to church, but our kids still recite the Pledge of Allegiance and it does not hurt anything or anyone.

The woman could easily tell her kid that God does not exist or whatever her beliefs are, but what impose her beliefs on the rest of a school, district or nation?


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Posted by Wayne
a resident of Dublin
on Mar 12, 2010 at 9:35 am

Since president Bush I've just recited it "one nation under guard".

We spend so much on pretending to defend ourselves it just makes more sense.

Before Bush I would just recite "one nation under make believe".

Factually both are more accurate than trying to be under something only perceivable within the mind. I have yet to meet a follower who doesn't fear the perception they hold of their overlord.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Mar 12, 2010 at 10:00 am

Stacey is a registered user.

Here's the court's decision: Web Link


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Posted by SteveP
a resident of Parkside
on Mar 12, 2010 at 12:19 pm

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Thank God. The court should be looking to recover their costs in defending against this frivilous case.
Time to grow up and address issue tat really matter, like the deficit, jobs, national defense, etc.


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Posted by Anon
a resident of another community
on Mar 12, 2010 at 6:31 pm

Your nation was founded by Christians, populated by Christians and is still overwhelmingly Christian. the very basis of your Govt is that the majority rule but every one can have a say. If the majority are Christian as your founders were and the majority rule is it not anti democratic to allow a person who represents far less the one percent of the voting public dictate to the majority what will be done in regards to this and many other issues the majority are quite happy with?

For us outside your country it resembles the soviet union where the Communist party and your activist judges decide the country will do what it wants and to hell with democracy.

Maybe you guys need a mechanism via a referendum that allows your President to over ride court decisions of this nature placing the governance of the country back in the peoples hands not 3 or more judges.

We really wish you would get your act together in this regard because we inevitably end up with the same laws because everyone follows your lead, for what ever reason our politicians pick it up and run with it.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Mar 12, 2010 at 7:10 pm

look her Anon, you seem to know things...what exactly a luncheon law? students at a local hs wrote essays in support of luncheon laws? what the heck is that all about?

pleese esplain...


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Mar 12, 2010 at 9:32 pm

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Anon,

Well you're right in some ways when you write "to hell with democracy". The US is not a pure democracy and we've never pretended to be. We're a republic with representational democracy. I'd never support a national referendum law. It is so wholly contrary to what the Founders were trying to accomplish. Power is split between three branches of government that are set at odds with each other. Each branch has mechanisms by which to over ride the other.


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Posted by Cholo
a resident of Livermore
on Mar 12, 2010 at 9:43 pm

Anon: I mean it, what the hell is a luncheon law?

and, who pays for the food?


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Posted by lisa
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 14, 2010 at 8:12 pm

Whenever someone sues and loses they should have to pay for the cost of the entire trial.
This would stop alot of this nonsense.


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Posted by ??
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 14, 2010 at 9:11 pm

What the heck is Cholo talking about here with his/her "luncheon law" question that is directed at Anon, multiple times?


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