Union picketing Castlewood today after country club locks out hourly workers Comments on Stories, posted by Editor, Pleasanton Weekly Online, on Feb 25, 2010 at 12:11 pm
More than 40 pickets from the UniteHere! Local 2850 hotel workers union chanted and marched at Foothill Road and the entrance to the Castlewood neighborhood this morning after management at Castlewood Country Club locked out its unionized workforces.
Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, February 25, 2010, 7:58 AM
Posted by D W, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Feb 25, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Mr. Frietas got the shaft from union leaders. The union leaders, unfortunately didn't seem to take all members' ideas into consideration. Nor did it seem like they took the Mayor's suggestions when she tried to calm both sides down.
And the union world wonders why they may have a bad rap? There's a clear gap between leaders and members, and now it has dominoed into distracting Foothill High morning traffic. This is one example why most Weekly readers and bloggers are so upset with this particular union and in some cases Castlewood management and why they don't trust either or both sides.
I suggest that Hegde and Shuber at least try and listen to Frietas' points of view and find middle ground. I am sick and tired of hearing people, whether they are the story or are the bloggers, trying to score political points instead of trying to help both sides. What's wrong with making problem solving more fun than disagreeing? If a better effort is made, then a solution can be just as entertaining if not more so than shouting out at each other through the internet. Let's hope Hegde and Shuber listen better.
Posted by Resident, a member of the Lydiksen Elementary School community, on Feb 25, 2010 at 6:03 pm
Originally I supported the Castlewood workers, but this morning when I had to wait 15 minutes at the stop sign going south from Pleasanton to Sunol on Foothill Road, I changed my mind. On my return trip (my daughter was late to school due to the delay), I rolled down the passenger window of my car and politely spoke to a militant woman with a megaphone. I told her that purposefully creating a traffic jam (they were crossing the street making the cars purposefully have to wait in the intersection, causing a delay for everyone going that way, was not the way to get the community to support them. She said rudely "what do you expect us to do, this is an Alameda County Sheriff sanctioned event". I said it caused my daughter to be late to school, and I was going to be late for work as a result. She could care less. I moved on to avoid any further delay.
As I turned the corner, there was an Alameda County Sheriff in his car in the golf course parking lot. Why would the County Sheriff allow these people to create a traffic jam on Foothill Road? I'm all for free speech and making sure workers get good pay and benefits, but when people have a complete disregard for my job and my time, I can no longer support them. My job is important to me and my family too. I feel the Sheriff should have done a better job making his presence at the intersection, which was instead just observed by some private security patrol from Castlewood homes. I hope we don't have a repeat of this tomorrow...maybe I'll have to take the freeway.
Posted by Lily, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Feb 25, 2010 at 10:06 pm
Yes, you should take the freeway tomorrow, because we will be there, so if your job is important, how about our jobs, when the club just locked us out because the GM Jerry Olson thinks that it was not his problem if people decided to get married and have kids, but he has a wife and two kids. Sheriff can't say anything because we are free in this country thanks to God.
Posted by Puck, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Feb 25, 2010 at 11:10 pm
Just so the truth be known, there were only 3 out of 57 Castlewood employees who bothered to show for picketing this morning. The rest were professional picketers that are paid to come out and harass people. The union does not represent the best interest of the employees but rather the best interest of the union at the expense of the employees. Guess who is still drawing a paycheck while the people they represent can't pay their bills. You got it, Ms Huber and her cronies are still eating well.
"UNITE HERE is a leader in “alternative” organizing methods that avoid traditional elections in which every employee is afforded a personal, private vote. The union’s president, Bruce Raynor, has actually said “there’s no reason to subject the workers to a vote.”"
Posted by Andy, a resident of the Stoneridge neighborhood, on Feb 25, 2010 at 11:31 pm
Why is the union even needed at this club? From my understanding, it is the only club in the East Bay with union affiliation. Also, it sounds like the union leadership is out of touch with the employees it is paid to represent. I support Castlewood is exercising its rights. The union leadership has been defiant in its communication and direction with club management. Ms. Hedge is a fraud and is not serving, nor is she concerned with the best interests of the employees that pay her wage. I feel bad for the workforce that is being incompetently represented. They deserve better from this corrupt, ignorant, out of touch union leadership. Hopefully this useless union relationship is dissolved. Let justice prevail.
Posted by BillyB., a resident of another community, on Feb 26, 2010 at 8:51 am
In this case the Union is NOT representing the true needs and opinions of the Castlewood Workers. The Union Leaders, with this un-necessary show of force, are only trying to further their own socialist agenda.
The Employees of Castlewood should vote the Union OUT, and apply the monies that they save in UNION DUEs towards their Health Care. The workers themselves will 'never' recover wages and benefits lost due to this unnecessary strike.
Posted by Resident, a member of the Lydiksen Elementary School community, on Feb 26, 2010 at 9:10 am
Yes, I took the freeway today and it was good. We were not late to school and work. I see here that most of the picketers were paid, their gathering looked more like a marching band as some picketers had instruments.
So happy to see they moved it to the golf course area, which is so much more appropriate and hopefully they will respect the traffic going through and not impede it. If they do, they might find that people will support their cause (a honk, a wave, bring some sealed food or beverages).
I do understand your situation, it is bad, so don't bash my post that simply asks for your courtesy in exchange for my support. You are not the only ones paying union dues and not getting good representation these days. The unions have lost so much power in our country. Yes, we are free, but really think about it, how free are we?
I hope your situation improves, and yes, I understand it is hard to be out there. Your efforts may help others, so stay courteous and keep up the fight for what you think is right. I have been out on a picket line daily, and not professionally, for myself and my co-workers. We were out for almost 3 months. Good luck.
Posted by Warner, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Feb 26, 2010 at 9:15 am
Fight the power!! You conservatives can whine all you want about "socialism" when all you really want is corporate feudalism! You conservatives could care less about the workers, because you are too busy worshipping altar of corporations and CEOs. You would be ok paying these workers 50 cents an hour if you could get away with it.
Posted by Roger, a resident of the Foothill Knolls neighborhood, on Feb 26, 2010 at 9:33 am
They can get together on a deal, in this economy everybody has to participate in cuting back. The imported pickets are not helping anybody, they just foster resentment. Let the employees work it out with management, keep the union out of it.
Posted by Concerned resident, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Feb 26, 2010 at 9:33 am
A number of issues both human and community are being overlooked, in some cases by both parties. The CWCC union workers do indeed work hard, just like other workers in our society. The dialog about wages and benefits is important, but I am sure that when what is currently being discussed is added up and communicated truthfully by the union, the public would have a much different perception.
The UniteHere union membership is made-up of similar culinary workers in the Bay Area and in the State/nation. Castlewood CC is a "non-profit" organization, unlike the other "for profit" in the Bay area. This said, the next time you venture out to eat anywhere in the Tri-Valley area, ask your server what "benefits" he or she gets from the restaurant you're eating in. If you are really bold, ask what is their salary. Forget tips for now. If you were to really ask the question, there is a stark difference between what the local eateries pay their kitchen and wait staff in the form of salary and benefits from what is currently paid to CWCC UniteHere members.
Finally, what does CWCC contribute back to the Tri-Valley community. Free golf to the local men's and women's high school golf teams. Access to the Club's facilities, often at cost, for local and regional charities such as Valley Care, Special Olympics, City of Hope, just to name a few. This Club, the Clubs' members and the Club's employees, both union and non-union have in the past, and will in the future continue in the future to "give back to the local community". These activities should not be overlooked. But, for all of this to continue, it must be within an economic framework that makes sense to CWCC members and is within the economic compensation levels of the local community.
Posted by Scott, a resident of the Castlewood neighborhood, on Feb 26, 2010 at 9:34 am
Unions are the core of alot of our problems, yet the lemmings continue to contribute dues. Dues for what? Ask the steel workers who no longer have an industry much lesss a job. And the autoworkers have you been to Detroit lately. Think about how the teachers union has screwed California. Think about the public employees unions that have negotiated unbelievably stupid pension contracts that are now bankrupting the state.
Look at the fool in the White House that is taking the nation down the same path as California....BANKRUPT financially and morally!
China sends their thanks! And appreciates the jobs that your unions are sending their way!
Posted by Arroyo, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Feb 26, 2010 at 12:22 pm
Unions breed mediocrity in work performance by protecting those who are poor workers, while demoralizing those with a better work ethic.
Also, Union "Leaders" do not know how to negotiate, but only know how to intimidate and dictate. And, they will intimidate their own non-aligned members as quickly as they will attempt to intimidate employer management.
I do not think that Castlewood will have any problem replacing the union members if they are actually paying $12.50 plus the fringe benefits stated in the article. Let the union hired pickets stay out there and freeze their butts off.
Posted by Crystal, a resident of another community, on Feb 26, 2010 at 3:22 pm
I am the daughter of one of the employees that is "Freezing their butts off" out there, and I find it very rude and disrespectful that that comment was just made. My mother has worked her entire life to support us. And she is more than a hard worker. And for your information not all of the conditions of the so called proposal that Castlewood made to the employees are stated in any article. In their proposal they also want the authority to be able to cut shift hours down as low as three hours. Yet they need 112 to qualify for medical insurance. Yeah a dollar raise sounds perfect but it's only offered to those who qualify, how is that fair? So some of these employees, if not the majority of them, will end up with no medical insurance and with no raise. That doesn't sound like a very fair deal to me. So the employees get screwed either way. The only thing that the employees are asking for is an honest working environment. They don't want any freebies.Also, I suggest to the members of the club to ask to see what their money is being spent on because last I heard the employees weren't even being provided the proper cleaning products to clean their so called prestigious club. I don't know about you, but to sit on a toilet that is just being wiped down with windex doesn't exactly spark the safety or sanitary flame on for me? Or the fact that floors are being mopped with just plain water. Aren't those also violations? Having a work area that is unsanitary? And to Steve Frietas, you are a 62 year old man who is probably close to retirement so of course all of these conditions are irrelevant to you. You are a heartless man who is enjoying working long shifts and making more money than the majority of the employees as you sit to the right side of General Manager Jerry Olson kissing his rear end. And to threaten and scare your own co-workers into signing your petition shows how poor your character really is. To the community: I understand that situations like this can be very distracting, and I know for a fact that these people don't want to burden anybody with their problems. But please try to put yourselves in their positions. A lot of these families have very sick family members and rely completely on their medical insurance. If someone in your family was ill and you were not able to provide them with the proper care because of one selfish man's personal opinion how would you feel? Jerry Olson, the general manager of Castlewood, made a rather disturbing comment, he said that it is not his fault that these people decided to get married and have kids. What kind of a person says that? He says that it is his personal opinion that he does not want to insure people's families. I thought that he was working for Castlewood, not the other way around. So to the people that disagree with what is going on, if it doesn't affect you save your negative comments. And to those understanding people thanks for the support.
Posted by Mary, a resident of the Castlewood neighborhood, on Feb 26, 2010 at 4:38 pm
Crystal begins her post by accusing others of making "rude and disrespectful" comments. She then goes on to chastize Steve Freitas (a two time Purple Heart awardee) as "selfish", "poor character", "heartless" and a butt kisser. Mr Frietas I apologize on her behalf and thank you for your service to our country.
Frankly the protesters made me sick, photographing a food delivery truck leaving Castlewood (are you going to bully that company now?) and deliberately crossing Foothill Road back and forth so that 40 cars were backed up and , yes, my kid was also late for school. They reminded me of the protesters that went after my friend's company - a hard working guy that happened to be non union and was bullied and picketed for months by the union but guess what - his employees WANT to be non union, they get paid more and they work constantly.
These workers earn more than my daughter with a college degree. Phase 'em out Mr Olson and give the jobs to some non union people who want to work.
Posted by Monica, a resident of the Castlewood neighborhood, on Feb 26, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Crystal, GREAT, GREAT, you're the only one who said the truth, members must ask how the club uses the money. They need to know that we don't get enough utencils to work. About "Mr. Freitas" he spent hours with the Managment planning what their next peticion would be, also for last weeks he got all the overtime he wants because he's their "guinnea pig", so they wanted to have him be happily ever after. Mr. Freitas is 62 years old, so he must get early retirement, play golf and be far away from us, we are tired of his approach to us, and is just trying to scare people, he got paid his hours that he was supossed to work,but if any of us do any different than our work we will be in trouble, so it's not fair, Mr. Freitas leave us to work with the company and the union to get this contract fixed. We do not need you..........THANKS WE REALLY APPRECIATED.......
Posted by Puck, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Feb 26, 2010 at 5:13 pm
"A lot of these families have very sick family members” That is a crock of BS. The union stated in their very first press release that there was an employee who had a daughter with Leukemia. That too was an outright lie. My friend that works at Castlewood said management attempted to locate that person in order to offer them assistance and the person does not exist.
I think it needs to be made clear from what I've read/heard is that every employee that works 28 hours a week would have full health coverage at no cost to them. Now where else in the world does a part time employee get full medical benefits for free? They need to pay the difference if they wish to insure a spouse or family and then Castlewood would pay up to an additional $80. Where do I sign up for this gravy train???
Posted by Employee of CCC, a resident of another community, on Feb 26, 2010 at 7:39 pm
Shame on you...You have no right to judge Steve Freitas. You comment that what is being said is rude and disrespectful. Obviously you know nothing about respect young lady.
Either Mommy doesn’t know the facts or she is just plain ignorant. THE CONTRACT IS VERY CLEAR ON THE 3 HOUR ISSUE. This was resolved long ago in fact the unions was and is still using this to try and keep employees on their side. NEVER was the intent to reduce shifts to 3 hour as you indicate. The intent is to pay employees a minimum 3 hour shift if in any case the event is cancelled or perhaps business is slow. If you think about this what other company gives there employee’s compensation for just showing up? The truth of the matter is we just want to vote. The Union WONT LET US! They think by holding out something positive is going to come out of this. Did you notice your mommy and 2 other CCC employees are out there holding signs? Where's the rest of us...? Hiding, embarrassed and ashamed to be a part of this! That's real postive!
As far as your comments on the cleaning products. Who is your MOMMY...I work there that’s a blatant lie...I will tell her to her face if ever given the opportunity. Again this is where ignorance comes in. And lastly regarding Jerry Olsen. He is man of integrity he doesn’t need Steve or anyone else to fight his battles. He is doing what should have been done a long time ago. He's DONE playing games and frankly so are the majority of the employees...
Little girl perhaps you should be surfing the net looking for a job for your mom because comments like this will bite her in the --- down the rode!
Posted by Sammi, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Feb 26, 2010 at 9:26 pm
Maybe you just can't handle the truth, all she is saying is true. Steve Freitas deserves worse than what Crystal said and I support her. But I guess that until you actually live what the employees are going through then you will realize why everything that is happening is happening. You know what, they are scared because they don't any better than to cower and some people may not attend because they are busy somewhere else, or are far away. And you know what that comment is just plain rude, but then again people only say stuff like that when they have no other way to let their angher out and maybe what you just said will bite you in the back at the end. CRYSTAL I SUPPORT YOU AND YOUR MOM, and what the employee said was something that I know you don't deserve.
Posted by me, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Feb 28, 2010 at 12:39 am
Crystal and sammi. Please get back to us when you have experienced the real world... Unions need to go away, ALL OF THEM. I used to be part of a union and fortunately quit before they could sue me for quitting. I hope Castlewood eliminates the union completely, Hire back the people who quit the union and are worthy enough employees to get the job. Nothing should be for free, I do not have health insurance and save about 10,000 dollars a year by paying out of pocket for healthcare.
The unions were vital 100 years ago to get us where we are today, we are here, now the unions only help destroy our economy. Also, since when is a buisness in existence solely to employ people, if that buisness is not making money, how are they going to pay their employees???
Crystal and Sammi, when you open a buisness, please get back to us on it's success on your principles you have demonstrated here.
Posted by Kelly, a resident of the Canyon Meadows neighborhood, on Feb 28, 2010 at 5:51 pm
Castlewood is hiring? Yes! There are so many people out of work right now who don't support unions or their bully pulpit. Castlewood, fire the union workers and re-hire non-union. For after school and weekend jobs there are several local High School students looking for jobs NOW!
Write Castlewood and let them know us local citizens support them. Get rid of the union!
Posted by Elaine, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Feb 28, 2010 at 6:01 pm
My young daughter was recently studying for a test in biology and asked me what the definition of "parasites" is. I told her it was an organism that attached itself onto a "host" system and sucked the lifeblood out of it...while not contributing anything positive to the host.
As examples, I included leeches and roundworms...and was very tempted to tell her about "unions" as well.
Posted by truth, a resident of the Bridle Creek neighborhood, on Mar 1, 2010 at 9:18 am
For those that don,t like the issues created by the picketers,call ICE and have them do a drive by the area. Most of the illegal immigrants that work there will leave or be deported. There is an ICE office in Oakland with field Officers in our area.
Posted by Resident, a resident of the Vintage Hills Elementary School neighborhood, on Mar 1, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Once again UNIONS cause unnecessary problems. Whether it's with the auto industry, the school district or a small private country club! By the way, why is Castlewood using union employees? I'm sure there are enough people out of work that would be happy to take those jobs without a union backing. People who really want to work. The other comment I have is - what jobs exist today where the employee doesn't contribute to their healthcare premiums. Every person that I know pays big bucks (right or wrong - that's another forum) for the healthcare premiums. Why do you think Obama and company are trying to get some new ideas across regarding healthcare costs.
Posted by Jackson, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 1, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Isn't this the same guy with the megaphone in SF picketing the Hyatt Hotel? In a nutshell there are 47 million people in the US without health benefits whatsoever. Those left with jobs pay for their employer supplied health plans for their families or in total. People pay for their own private insurance or go without.
My spouse is a member of the Cal-Pers Union. We found that WE were paying $1,000 per month MORE for our family coverage health care through the employer, than we could from the EXACT same insurer with the EXACT same coverages. When the HR person was presented with the same brochure from the insurer providing the Union policies, they shrugged their shoulders. That's $12,000 per yaer for Union Admistartive Fees! Multiply that by the one hundred thousand plus union members and you can appreciate the "strength" (dollars, availed by this union. Needless to say, we pay for ALL of our insurance ourselves because it is less expensive than paying Union admistrative fees. Maybe that's what the CCC employees should look into...? Don't be so head strong that you will not take responsibility for your own livlihood and care of your families. What is best for you may not come from this or any employer, especially a union that makes money from your earnings and does't have your best interest at heart. There are always three or more sides to EVERY story, so make sure that you keep an open mind to ALL of the POSSIBILITIES available to you. Maybe you don't need CCC or the Union! Godspeed in any event.
Posted by innocent bystandard, a resident of another community, on Mar 1, 2010 at 6:30 pm
I also got stuck in traffic on my way to a meeting and yes there are other ways to go picket without blocking traffic I will not deny that it did bother me. However..I was raised here in California that most diverse state in the U.S of A and strongly believe that you should fight for what you believe therefore I support the picket line. I have had the pleasure of being a guest of this mentioned country club and I must say that I found the employees to be very devoted to their job from the bartender to the waiters right down to the janitors. I honestly cannot not afford to be a "member" of this club and find it hard to believe that with those membership enrollment/monthly dues paid by the current members that something like providing health care to their employees is an issue. For the individual that mentioned about calling ICE..I do want to say that was a rude and unnecessary comment. Some of if not most of the "illegal workers" do jobs for an amount that I think most of us would not even consider, issues like this only bother us when they affect us otherwise as long as its benefitting us we turn a blind eye. I also agree that a company must do what a company must do to stay in business and the Gm's should be able to sit down with employees and work something out have the employees vote and then give the results to the union and work from there. I do not know the facts, again I was just driving through town but when I saw the comments being made on this site I was really surprised at some of the "out of line" comments that were being thrown around. We live in a country that allows us, gives us the freedom of speech and I believe that everyone is entitled to post their opinion without getting spoken down to. I really hope that both sides can come to agreement and end this unfortunate situation that has deprived a great country club of some great workers. Best of luck to all.
Posted by Patty, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Mar 1, 2010 at 10:33 pm
Innocent, Thank you so much for your comment, you are one of the person that see the two sides. I am a worker; people don't know that have this situacion is stresfull, this is not a fun activity and probably we don't need the UNION. I know it's not a good cotract, but now is the most important are jobs. About people want to call the ICE, I want to know how many of people born in this country want to wash dishes? I didn't born in here and I am American Citizen and I don't want to wash dishes.... honestly. We just want to finish this situacion..........
Posted by No Longer Needed, a resident of San Ramon, on Mar 2, 2010 at 3:00 am
I would just like to say good for Castlewood. As we all no unions are a thing of the past, This Country has no use for them any more. All a union is good for is bleeding money from there members and causing a wedge between employers and there staff. To all the union employees out on strike right now just ask your self's this; What has the union done for me? I mean you thought they would have jobs lined up for you but do they? you thought they would listen to you but have they? So again I ask you, What has the union done for you other then take money from you and not held up there end of the deal.
I no some employees that work (worked) at CCC and feel for all of them as times are tough and jobs are far and few. I also no that some of the employees concerns about management is warren, But as I use to say to coworkers in the past who would complain about every thing "If your not happy, then quit and go some were else". Even the worse jerk of a boss, just might be a fair jerk and if you don't think so then like I said before then look for some were else that makes you happy. That's the great thing about the U.S. if your a hard worker then there is always work for you. As for these post that say the work been done by the people of this club is work that most American won't do, well your kinda right. Just because you wash dishes or clean toilets and you think no one else will do it doesn't give you the right to do it half a*#ed. There are a lot of hard working employees working at CCC but for every two HWs there is or was three that lived under the umbrella of the "you can't fire me cuz am union" and would work at the half a#& pace. You hard workers should have talked to the slackers a long time ago and it's because of them that all of you are now were your at.
Last thing I want to say. Just think of this, some medical benefits is better then none at all. As most people who work in the culinary industry will tell you, Med benefits are usually not very good. So to have what the club was offering is better then not having any at all. As for Jerry Olsen comments am sure it was probable taken out of content. He has worked hard to get were he is today and be able to provide for his family by moving up in the world. With promotion comes benefits, you don't just expect them to be handed to you do you. I would like to think that Mr Olsen is a fair man but he is a club manger and has to look out for the best interstice of the club and some times it may make him and others look like jerks. As for Mr Freitas, I believe he was doing what he thought was right for the employees with out really listen to them. As you get older you begin to realize that youth will win out. With age come wisdom, but self preservation is human nature.
I hope that Castlewood CC can work this out so that all the hard working, caring, and reliable employees can be back at work soon. Good luck to both sides.
Posted by Outside the box, a resident of another community, on Mar 2, 2010 at 11:58 pm
I do not know all the facts, but from what I've gathered, it sounds as if there are plenty of people unhappy with the union, the workers and the effects of the picketing. I've read plenty of comments complaining about the traffic and back up the picketers are causing, children being late to school and so on. While I'm tempted to argue that those living in that area likely do not know stress and struggle like many of the castlewood employees do and almost want to say stop complaining about TRAFFIC, traffic! Instead I will refrain and not attempt to blame these people for the injustices of the system at large, as they (and all of us) only know what we have been born into. Also, if that is a genuine interruption in your day and your children's education, I will respect that as meaningful to you. In the mean time I might perhaps suggest leaving a bit earlier to avoid this problem.
In response to Puck's comment, "Just so the truth be known, there were only 3 out of 57 Castlewood employees who bothered to show for picketing this morning. The rest were professional picketers that are paid to come out and harass people. The union does not represent the best interest of the employees but rather the best interest of the union at the expense of the employees."
First, those complaining about the picketers should keep in mind that it is likely these professional picketers that are causing you the most distress with traffic or whatever your complaints are today, and the actual workers are likely out there working hard to find another job or already have another as the food on their children's tables is not being provided while out there picketing!
Second, for those actual workers out there on the line, it is likely that all they understand or believe is that the union is there to support them when they are being discriminated upon..I would like to believe this too if union dues are coming out of each paycheck!
Lastly, I encourage everyone to keep in mind that this has grown into a battle between castlewood management and the UNION, while there are probably employees dedicated to the union and believe in it, I have no doubt that there are PLENTY of employees who are simply trying to earn a paycheck and never had a say in whether they were part of a union or not, let alone that signed up for being locked out!
I do not know nearly enough about the contract that was proposed or the arguments on either side, and do not attempt to bash castlewood management or "Steve Freitas" whomever that is. I only hope that those who are holding strong for one side or the other can try to simply think about it from the others point of view, which is not necessarily the union leader's point of view, or simply Mr. Freitas' point of view, try to think what may be going on behind the faces of each arguement.
I hope this can be settled very soon because it is hurting far too many people for a variety of reasons. Best of luck to everyone.
Posted by Tina, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 3, 2010 at 9:35 am
Why is the Union associated with socialistworkers.com? Is this really the members points of view, or just the Union management?
I sincerely beleive that any society requires SOME socialst programs to care for those that are not able to care for themselves.
The ideology that the Union has aligned themselves with can only damage their dwindling following. I can't fathom that the majority of the workers support a socialist/communist political agenda.
As far as the ICE comments, there has not been mentioned that the Union negotiation requires that CCC hire back the workers that were let go because of fraudulent citizenship documentation, which from my understanding is a Federal offense deserving mandantory investigation. This should be investigated by Homeland Security as to why this was allowed to happen... Read the articles about the parole officers in charge of the Dugard case and imagine what happens when someone doesn't follow through on their job description when evidence of a real crime is discovered...
Posted by mary, a resident of the Castlewood neighborhood, on Mar 3, 2010 at 7:51 pm
I have to agree with angry driver! Why should people who are not members of Castlewood Country club be inconvenienced by these picketers.
Do they think this will get folks to support their stance on this issue by making them sit in a traffic jam? Castlewood employees need to de-certify the union and get back to work with out the union. How long do they want to be without a pay check? You know those union executives are getting paid.
Posted by Mary, a resident of the Castlewood neighborhood, on Mar 5, 2010 at 12:11 pm
Well todays picketers are also band members at they are playing for the golfers. They are not very good. Not sure why the union believes that doing this to the golfers is a way to get them to pressure the GM and the board. Can't wait to see what they do next...
Posted by Unions past, a resident of the Pleasanton Heights neighborhood, on Mar 5, 2010 at 12:55 pm
These people should just thank God that they have a job and if they don't like the work they are doing then simply work your aS@ off and make their dream a reality. Nothing worth anything ever just comes by getting together and yelling about it. My dad always taught me never to take a hand-out---that's only for bankers and lawyers not housekeepers and grocery workers. And if you don't like the system then go to another country, even if you served in the military. Long live you Fox Americans, gutless wonders too scared to raise a voice.
Posted by Member, a resident of the Laguna Oaks neighborhood, on Mar 5, 2010 at 4:45 pm
As a member of Castlewood, let me say a few things for the union to consider.
Castlewood is a private club, which means when you are out there playing your band instruments you are aggravating the owners of the business. The golfers are not customers who will go elsewhere, nor will they decide to not use the club that they pay for every month and have a vested cash interest in. The people that you are blocking in the roadway are residents who have zero influence on the club, if they are not members they cant play there any way.
All you are accomplishing right now is polarizing the ownership of the club and the residents of the community against you. This may be one of the dumbest protests I have ever seen, it is really quite comical.
When you have aggravated everyone to their limit, the only thing the members and the residents will want is to insure this never happens again, which means getting rid of the union. As long as there is a union at CWCC, the possibility for this non-sense will exist. I will pressure club management hold out as long as it has to to ride the club of the union plague, whatever nonsense we need to put up with in the short term.
The union days are over, employees should drop out and come back to work independent. We want you all back, but with out the union.
As far as health care contributions, everyone has to pay, its just the way it is... unless your one of the 18% of Americans that are unemployed.
Oh, and to the clown that set up a BBQ in our parking lot last weekend, I will personally file trespassing charges if you do it again.
Posted by Your friendly neighbor, a resident of the Castlewood neighborhood, on Mar 8, 2010 at 11:36 pm
For all those that think that unions doesn't work, why? You studied and got a degree? Because you earned your weekends off? you earned vacation? you earned holidays? For all those ignorants that think that they studied but obviously they didn't do it well, they didn't get all that because of their brain, a union already fought for them, that is the only reason that we all have rights. Two things, the first one is that only ignorants can say that this is not true and the second thing is that I couldn't careless if you like it or not. I'm just stating facts so you can start making comments just proving how ignorants you are. Peace.
Posted by Puck, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 9, 2010 at 3:35 pm
to Your friendly neighbor
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You ask why Unions are bad and here is the answer: Unions are not out to protect their members, they are out to protect themselves. This is proven by the fact that the majority of Castlewood employees want to vote on the contract that has been offered by the Club but the Union WILL NOT let them vote. Because of the Unions stance the little guy is no longer getting a paycheck. However Ms Huber and her Union cronies will not miss a beat while their unemployed members continue to pay their monthly dues to support their lifestyle.
Posted by Member, a resident of the Laguna Oaks neighborhood, on Mar 9, 2010 at 6:45 pm
It appears that the dialog has wained here, but I wanted to ask a question maybe someone might know the answer to.
Sunday, I heard the the union protesters were trespassing on Castlewood property, blocking golfers between #1 and #10. Then later on I heard that they trespassed not only on the property, but into the Valley Pro Shop.
Does anyone know why we are not pressing charges against these criminal trespassers?
I think once they have breached demonstration and moved into criminal activity we should be getting these people arrested, booked and fined.
We have security cameras, can we ID them and have them arrested next time they show up?
Posted by Member, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 9, 2010 at 8:25 pm
Unfortunately for the member resident of Laguna Oaks, this situation cannot and won't be resolved in that way. Based on legal cases that have been in court before; they are allowed to be within the premises. I saw the whole thing on TV, and I didn't see them doing all the terrible things that you say. What I saw is the third most powerful man in California trying to speak with Jerry Olson but he refused to talk with him; also it was mentioned the word coward. If you believe everything that you hear; then you have a very narrowed mind. You have security cameras, you can ID them; good luck.
Posted by Member, a resident of the Laguna Oaks neighborhood, on Mar 10, 2010 at 2:08 pm
In regards to the legality of trespassing on private property while picketing, I was able to find some cases back to 1968 where it was determined that it was legal since the private property was generally accessible to the public at large. (shopping center) I cant find any decision that say it is legal to trespass on private property that is not open to the general public. I would appreciate it if you could direct me to the cases you refer to that allow demonstrators to trespass on private property not open to the general public.
Posted by Member, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 11, 2010 at 10:29 am
Please, just think that the so called trespassers were little kids, it is more criminal the person that called them like that. I understand that it is a private country club but I would have to think it twice before calling them like that. I'm not saying if it is good or not. Have a good day.
Posted by Puck, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 11, 2010 at 11:17 am
It is criminal that parents would put their children in that position. The parents are the ones that need to be cited, not the children that the parents are using as a shield. The assemblyman that trespassed is really full of himself with his bloated ego of self importance. He was nothing more than a leader of a mob in someone else’s private home.
I think the Union will lose this battle; it is just too bad that they are destroying the employee’s lives at the same time. There are only 5-7 Castlewood employees that were there and they are the same ones that always show. Where are the other 50 plus employees? If the union didn’t pay for professional picketers they wouldn’t have anyone there.
Posted by Member, a resident of the Laguna Oaks neighborhood, on Mar 11, 2010 at 2:28 pm
I was able to link off the unions facebook page some video shot by KTVU which shows clearly several adult criminal trespassers. I agree with Puck that I do feel for the kids there, being they had the misfortune of being born to parents with no regard for the law, but there is no requirements to conceive children. You have to get interviewed to adopt a cat however, to ensure you are a fit owner....
And who is this Fremont democrat that showed up for a photo op? Unions and politicians, the root cause I would surmise. Stay in Fremont, we didn't elect you... at least I don't think so.
Since we are already paying the Pleasanton Cops to be there after the union starting breaking the law, why not start arresting them? I know the club doesn't want to escalate things, but since there is no way the club can back down now, after the crap the union has done, it seems all but inevitable that this gets brought to a boil and finished.
In the old days, when I hired someone it was very difficult to find out an applicants criminal record, and expensive. Now, a quick check on the web, for practically nothing, allows me to screen anyone from my employ that has a record. There are too many good people who need work out there, that have respect for the law, to ever consider people like these. Lets give them additional lines on their record, and we can also ensure they are working in the US with proper credentials.
You don't negotiate with people who cause issues for innocent parties, to extort their own agendas. (sound familiar?)
There is no place for a union at Castlewood, if they stay this will happen again. Whatever it takes, now is the time stand up and to end it for good.
Posted by John Lehman, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Mar 11, 2010 at 9:47 pm
As a longtime resident of Pleasanton, I think Castlewood's actions disgrace our community. Castlewood's membership does not need to pinch pennies to the degree of taking health care away from children. And for those annoyed by the protests - just keep in mind that the workers did not choose to go on strike! They were thrown out on the street by their managers, who are trying to starve them into accepting a poor contract. What other choice do they have but to protest?
Posted by CCC Member, a resident of another community, on Mar 11, 2010 at 10:51 pm
John Lehman, a guy who has no money in the game telling those that do on how to play. That is the type of entitlement thinking that has gotten this country into the mess that it is in today.
The employees were not "thrown" out into the street by management but rather by their own Union who refuses to let them vote on a contract that they in fact want ot vote on. It may be too late now to reverse the course on eliminating the union completely.
Posted by Member, a resident of the Laguna Oaks neighborhood, on Mar 12, 2010 at 9:55 am
The villian in this story is skyrocketing health care costs, coupled with the entitlement mentality of the union. Companies can not absorb the costs. The days of unions, pensions, free health care etc, are long gone. This is just the process of eliminating it. I don't like it any more than any one else, but it is reality, it is what it is.
This little skirmish is over. The union, by not allowing the employees to vote on the contract, which they would have passed, got the employees replaced.
The service is fine, the food is the same, and the place is clean.
The picket is a little more than a nuisance, a little funny, a little sad, but totally futile. Like dogs howling at the moon.
Let them march around, arrest them when they break the law, because ultimately they will revert to criminal acts to get attention. You can not yell at the problem and make it go away.
The union got the employees replaced, are they better off now? I think it would have been much better if they accepted the offer, and then if the job and compensation does not meet the needs of the life they choose to live, or support the kids they choose to have, look for somewhere else that pays more. At least they would not be unemployed now in the worst economy most of us have experienced in our lifetime.
Why doesn't the union put in place a insurance policy for their members? Then negotiate a competitive labor rates with independent contractors and bid for the work. What exactly do the union dues pay for anyway? Drum sets, megaphones, and signs?
The employees should be picketing the union....
The root cause, health care costs and union entitlement mentality.
Posted by Member, a resident of the Laguna Oaks neighborhood, on Mar 12, 2010 at 10:11 am
To John Lehman:
The disgrace in Pleasanton is the Meth Lab off operating just outside of downtown. Maybe a better use of our police is taking care of the town rather than sitting outside of Castlewood keeping the criminal trespassers of the union off of private property...
Posted by Locked out CCC employee, a resident of another community, on Mar 12, 2010 at 6:45 pm
To John Lehman:
You have no idea what you are talking about. We were not thrown out by management rather we were forced to be thrown out by a Union made up of women representatives who's mentality is to battle. We have requested both verbally and in a petition to vote on the contract... in fact the majority are willing to except the contract WHAT PART OF THEY WONT LET US VOTE DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND? Our only hope at this point is that the Labor Board expedites our request to De certify !!! Say a prayer .... Wish us luck!
Posted by Member, a resident of the Castlewood neighborhood, on Mar 12, 2010 at 9:20 pm
I wonder how Ms. Huber would feel if we paraded in front of her Condo on Macarthur...In Oakland...How do you think her neighbors would feel about it? Do you suppose they would be sympathetic to the cause?
Posted by Castlewood Member, a resident of the Laguna Oaks neighborhood, on Mar 17, 2010 at 9:00 pm
I agree with all the posts that feel everyone should contribute to their health care costs. So why doesn't Castlewood ask all employees to pay? All single employees (or employees with a spouse who have their own coverage) get a free ride with health care. They contribute ZERO towards the cost. Employees with a spouse pay in the $300/mo range; if you have a spouse and a child you pay in the $700/mo range.
Posted by ccc member, a resident of the Castlewood neighborhood, on Mar 19, 2010 at 2:02 pm
The employees are picketing for the wrong cause. It is no longer affordable health care it's now can we get our jobs back. At the club the service is now better (the 2 new guys in the grill are great) the food is better and the atmosphere is wonderful. A word to the former Castlewood Employees, The bottom line is "your gone, you've been replace, we have moved on and you should too"
Posted by smiling on the inside, a resident of the Bridle Creek neighborhood, on Mar 20, 2010 at 9:44 am
to the ccc employee, the member is right the food and service is a lot better and everything is 10 time's cleaner, then what it was with the union employees working there. it's good to see that ccc is no longer babysitting the crappy employee who come to work just to fill a void because they aren't educated enough or are just to lazy to find another job.so to those employee's that think they are missed by the club you are so wrong. you should start realizing that your union is lying to you and that all they care about is lining there pockets with your hard earned money. ask your so called leader's if there still getting a full paycheck when there out there on the picket line's with you.
Posted by LOCK OUT EMPLOYEE, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 20, 2010 at 1:39 pm
I feel sorry for those who give their opinions WITHOUT knowing the truth. We got information from our confident people o what they heard happened, but it is totally different from YOUR truth. The club is dirty, you need to go to the back of the house where you can see what really happened which is the reality.... YOU DON'T KNOW THAT THE MANAGERS ARE STRESSED OUT BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO DO OUR JOB. SOON YOU WILL LOSE YOUR MANAGERS TOO. BECAUSE THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE REALITY.
Posted by another ccc member, a resident of the Golden Eagle neighborhood, on Mar 20, 2010 at 8:40 pm
Dear "LOCK OUT EMPLOYEE"
Keep beating your drum and walking around in a circle like a hampster. My playing group will make sure none of you ever work at Castlewood again as long as Here Local 2850 is involoved. So keep follow Wieding, and stay unemployeed, or vote the union out so many of you can come back to work.
Posted by another ccc member, a resident of the Laguna Oaks neighborhood, on Apr 11, 2010 at 9:42 am
Dear ccc member, resident of the Golden Eagle neighbor. (Mar. 20th)
Wow, didn't know one member and his playing group had so much power at the club that they could make sure none of the lockedout workers "will ever work at Castlewood again as long as Here Local 2850 is involved." (this is a direct quote but I felt I should correct your spelling)
You must belong to a VERY powerful playing group. Why don't you tell all the ccc members your names so we will be sure to never cross you! Either that, or just keep these nasty threats to yourself (oh, you can share them with your playing group). I am sure it makes them feel as tough as you do.
Posted by Christopher Long, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jun 13, 2010 at 7:02 pm
Truely! How dare such people go to such legnths to pursue healthcare for their children. I am in total agreement. They should know their place in life and accept the scraps that are thrown to them. God forbid someone is delayed 15 minutes due to the picketing. If anyone is not able to secure healthcare due to low wages, well that is a function of natural selection at its finest. They should have had the good sense of being born to a higher class of privilege and wealth. We should all look to India's caste system in crazy times such as these. The only end that these people were created for by our heavenly Father was to serve the members of this club so we might better enjoy our recreation. We should be thanked for extending them the opportunity to work at any wage. If you ask me, it is the labor laws that are ruining this great nation. We cannot stay competitive in a global market if we have to extend basic human rights to our citizens. If the club were to offer affordable healthcare to its workers it might not be able to extend the same level of luxury to its members. IS THE WHOLE WORLD LOSING ITS MIND!? Even though through private schools, tutors, access to resources and affluent friends, not all citizens are afforded the same opportunities to excel in life, these people are just plain lazy and need to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps! They are too busy sleeping eight hours at night when they could be working a second or even third job to make up the gap that they are complaining about. And what about child labor laws! If they need healthcare for their children then put their children to work. I do not see why a five year old child could not shine shoes when he or she was done with kindergarten or a thirteen year old catch up on some janitorial work after his or her middle school was done for the day. Let's be frank, that is all that these children will amount to anyway.
Posted by Possum, a resident of San Ramon, on Mar 22, 2011 at 12:55 pm
How's that membership value treating you right now...$12.5K!!!
It is so cheap (and don't blame the economy), that I could even join the club...Except I could not co-habitate with the aloof, "Judge Schmales" members that make up the majority at CCC.
If I were a member, I would be VERY DISAPPOINTED at CCC management for the value of my memebership being reduced to a fraction of its original value...
The arrogance, anger and racist overtones in your posts makes me wonder if the club should change its name to Kastlewood Kountry Klub.
Not a union member. never have been, don't intend on it either, but in California the employees have the right to organize...and the vote proved that the employees wanted to...I still think CCC is shocked that they could not dissuade the employees to end the union and now doesn't have a "Plan B".
At the end of the day, both sides need to negotiate "in good faith" and try to put an end to the nonsense..."In good faith" appears to be the issue holding up a solution...
Lastly, do you inhale or exhale in your backswing?...nevermind!
Posted by JP, a resident of the Castlewood neighborhood, on Aug 30, 2011 at 11:10 am
Anyone ask Ms Huber what the Union employees at Castlewood would make under the last proposal? and what they would make at similar establishments? This union leadership owes it's member's the right type of representation and that is fair pay for fair work--and that comes from what other opportunities and similar jobs pay. Not that Castlewood has been overly generous in the past. Their compensation should not be based upon the amount of disruption they can create or revenue damage to the employer-- that amounts to nothing more than holding the employer and the surrounding community for a ransom-- and no Unions/ nor union members should be compensated based upon the amount of destruction and annoyance they are capable of creating-- we'd all be sending the wrong message if that were the case. Send notices to your congressman to change courts/laws that allow such abusive behaviour (by this Union imparticular) to occur.
Posted by Joe Hill, a resident of the Valley Trails neighborhood, on Aug 30, 2011 at 11:17 am
"imparticular"???? Another one of Pleasanton's fine intellects.
Yes, by all means, write your representatives and tell them all about the magnanimity of employers who lock out their workers and the abusive behavior otherwise known as a labor strike which is a response to the magnanimity.
Posted by JP, a resident of the Castlewood neighborhood, on Aug 30, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Joe, how is Castlewood behaving magnanimousy? in offering work to those willing to work for a fair wage? Do you think these employees are underpaid? let's look at what's on the table and see if wages and benefits are competitive....if so is unite2850 and Ms Huber remiss in not allowing their members back to work? Allowing "labor strikes" to the magnitude that this Union has taken it should be criminal. Is the Unions case not so strong to derive community and vendor support without strong arm tactics that make the place of their members employment an undesireable place to be and do business? Should they be allowed to do anything to get what they want-- regardless of the facts? because they have the means to be an annoyance??? Strike yes, get your word out, and the facts, even hold your banners with signs respectfully (if right,there will be the support)....but to take your fist and put up to your employers nose??? Cmon, where's the common sense--courts and law have to be more dilegent against abusive union gatherings...period. Union laws are out-dated