What happened to "Quiet" at the Library Comments on Stories, posted by More Quiet at the Library, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Jan 27, 2010 at 3:25 pm
All of the comments some months ago about our very noisy Pleasanton Library brought some temporary results, but the noise is back. The voices are at too high a level for a library. Doesn't the Library have any staff that can occasionally walk around and tell people that don't seem to know, that a library should be relatively quiet, and loud voices/conversation are inappropriate. I can understand whispered conversations, but it is very loud conversations, in all of the adult sections, and no Library staff seem to be able to ask people to keep their voices low because it is a library. I have been in other local libraries and I don't see that kind of behavior tolerated as the Pleasanton Library tolerates it. What message are we giving people who disrespect others with their loud voices/conversation at a Library???? If library staff is not willing to tell people about "quiet please" maybe many, many, many, signs on all the tables and all the computer stations and anywhere you can find a spot to place a sign in all the adult sections might help.
Posted by no surprise to me, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Jan 27, 2010 at 4:52 pm
Are these adults or kids making all of the noise? Somehow nothing in this town surprises me with regard to ill-mannered people. They are probably the same ones who yap on their cell phones in theaters and while driving. Pleasanton, the land of the entitled.
Posted by Kim, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Jan 28, 2010 at 8:36 am
I agree with no surprise to me. It seems that ppl think if they live in Pleasanton they are privlidged to do/say whatever they want. I am appalled at what these kids get away with and most of the time it's right under their parents noses! Bring back the 1960-1980 when people had manners and followed rules.
Posted by Quiteitplz, a resident of the Pleasanton Valley neighborhood, on Jan 28, 2010 at 9:24 am
I do not think it is the Library staff responsibility.. They are not there to babysit. It should be parents, grandparents, etc. that teach respect of "quite" in a Library atmosphere. I was always taught that by my parents to be quite and respectful in a Library. Don't you think it is time we put some responsibility on parents, Grandparents etc?
Posted by no surprise to me, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Jan 28, 2010 at 9:38 am
Thank you QP! Mary, your logic is exactly what is wrong with kids now! It is not the responsibility of ANYONE but the parents/guardians to teach manners to kids. It certainly is the responsibility of the library staff (or teachers or coaches or whoever) to ENFORCE the rules but kids should be taught at home how to act like humans.
In my profession I have had more than a few occasions to tell a parent to remove their child until or unless it can behave. I generally also tell the parent that I should never be the one who has to tell them to do that, it is their responsibility to control their children.
Posted by A Mom, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Jan 28, 2010 at 9:57 am
"In my profession I have had more than a few occasions to tell a parent to remove their child until or unless it can behave"
Unless IT can behave? Seriously? I hope I never have the displeasure of running across your path if you refer to children as 'its'.
And just to add a point, my children are all well-behaved. I'm often told that they're a rarity because they say please and thank you. Sad, and I agree that kids by and large are rude these days, but I take issue with the PP's word choice.
Posted by parent, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Jan 28, 2010 at 10:23 am
I stopped using the Pleasanton Library not only because it's so noisy, but because so many people use their cell phones to have conversations which really ought to be private.
I'm amazed at the number of people who don't seem to realize that when they're on their cell phones, they're not in a phone booth, and everyone around them can hear every word. It became frustrating to keep moving away from cell phone users - and useless because it seems that no matter where you go in the library, someone is on a cell phone, not speaking quietly, but in an everyday voice. It just became easier and less embarrassing to use other local libraries.
I've seen well mannered and not well mannered children in the library. But I can say the same about adult patrons.
If the Pleasanton Library would start enforcing rules for quiet, and particularly require patrons to put their cell phones on vibrate, and go outside to take or make phone calls, I'd gladly go back to our city library.
Posted by Carlos, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Jan 28, 2010 at 10:33 am
Who else is getting sick and tired of people like "no surprise to me" complaining about the residents. I have lived in Pleasanton for 4 years now and I have never been been happier. The people here (for the most part) are considerate and polite. This feels like, how a town is supposed to be. Everywhere I go I see nice neighbors, polite workers, and a general effort to be...pleasant.
Now everytime I go on this site, there seems to be ungrateful, unhappy people complaining about the "entittled" people and their privileges'. Sure, your going to have the occasional rude person that thinks they are better than you. Although, every city has those people, right? I travel the whole bay area and I see people driving on the phone all the time. I see people driving expensive cars and they might look "snobby" but I don't it to be true, and I definitely don't hold the city that we're in accountable. I believe thats childish.
You have to open up your curtains in your house once in awhile and see the world. Step away from your computer for a minute and have a conversation with a real person.
PS Don't assume you know anything about anyone by simply knowing their zip code.
Posted by Love the Library, a resident of the Carriage Gardens neighborhood, on Jan 28, 2010 at 5:38 pm
The library staff can't be everywhere at once and are usually very busy. If someone at the library is too loud and you are unable to concentrate all you have to do is notify a library staff person and they are always more than happy to ask people to quiet down, ask them to quit talking so loudly or ask them to move to a different area. I have always found the staff to be very helpful when I've asked for assistance of this kind. If all you do is complain on this site but don't actually do anything when at the library you can't expect anything to change.
Posted by June, a member of the Alisal Elementary School community, on Feb 5, 2010 at 10:47 am
I was appalled when I visited the library on a weekday mid-afternoon. The library was the stopping grounds for all the PMS students coming home from school. Now these kids were not studying. It was socializing, running around, making noise. Kinda like killing time for a couple of hours until their parents could pick them up after work. Im sure the librarians are overwhelmed and feel like its not their responsibility to tell people to be quiet. WOW, have things changes. When I was in middle school, all the librarian had to do was give you the look, or they'd escort you out of the building if you werent quiet. We will not visit again, EVER.