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Prop. 8 opponents end testimony in SF federal court case
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on Jan 23, 2010
After nine days of trial, two same-sex couples who want to overturn Proposition 8 presented their final witness in federal court in San Francisco Friday, clearing the way for defense testimony to begin on Monday.
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posted Saturday, January 23, 2010, 8:32 AM
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Posted by Sam
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on Jan 27, 2010 at 7:40 pm
Though any family, no matter how ungodly or terrible they might be, is better than no family at all, it is not the issue of how suitable parents are, but what God says about it, considering those who believe in a literal Bible. If you do believe in a literal, 100% perspicuous Bible, then it is clear that practicing homosexuality is a sin. This would preclude a gay couple from adopting, much like practicing liars, or practicing robbers. So, the Bible does not need to specifically address adopting to homosexuals, since hopefully, it is already clear that it is disdainful to God.
As for Paul, I believe in 2 Timothy 3:16 that states, "All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness." I believe it to mean that Scripture, all of it, including the writings of Paul, are infallible and all of it is profitable for today, even if the cultural context is not directly profitable. Paul's point about women not speaking in church is directly related to the natural inclination of women. It is also geared towards women not teaching men in church, since as Paul reasons, Adam was ordained first by God to lead. So it is not Paul who's ethics to question, but God Himself. If you do not believe that the entirety of Scripture is infallible, then I'm afraid we have no biblical common ground with which to discuss anything on the matter.
In terms of what directly or indirectly affects me, homosexuality itself has nothing to do with me, and has no direct connections to me. It bears no negative affect on my walk with my God. However, once I must offer services involving human beings whom I have a responsibility before God to look after, then it becomes personal, not just for my morality, but between God and myself. At the Great White Throne Judgement, I do not want God to look at me and say, "why did you give away this child to those who even you believed could not properly raise them?" I could be accountable for it, and I would rather die a thousand deaths than offend my God in a way I know was preventable.
Now then, I hope you do not think I believe homosexuals to be sub-human. I have homosexual friends. We disagree, but we get along fine. I disagree with them just like I disagree with you, and I believe that you are just as human as me and them. As for your KKK analogy. I understand what you are saying. And the analogy fits, with one exception. Right now, interracial adoption is allowed and the KKK cannot deny a couple of any ethnicity an adoption. However, as of right now, I have the ability to deny a gay couple adoption. That is my right. I have it, and I do not want to give it up. So the analogy is different in the way that gay marriage will take away a right I've had for my entire life. But also, since this is not about morality, then being right or wrong doesn't matter. It is about how somebody's actions negatively affect another. Somebody, in this case, will be negatively affected no matter what. If it is decided that no literal-Bible believing Christian should work in an adoption agency, then so be it, but it is just the wolves deciding to eat the lamb who voted against them.
Being accountable for everything I do before my God, I cannot adopt to a gay couple. You are right, that every Christian can just quit adoption agencies. I guess that just does not sit well for me with the outlook on the degrading morality of the USA. What will Christians not be able to do next? Hopefully not what Canada is into, seeing as how they already arrested a number of Catholic priests for preaching that homosexuality is wrong.