Posted by PToWN94566, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Jan 20, 2010 at 12:39 am PToWN94566 is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
Lisa, I think this story is great for people of Pleasanton to read. This town is rampant with homophobia and it's disgusting to see how adults act towards people like myself that are gay or friends. There are more gay people in this town than most realize. From what I've heard from friends that live here and aren't completely out of the closet, they would rather live in silence because of the comments people make than having to deal with derogatory statements. This Prop 8 trial goes a bit deeper than just simply asking for civil rights. However, being granted civil rights (which is a shame that I have to even state this, 'grant rights') will hopefully lesson the taboo and social stigma. And yes, a large portion of citizens in this town want gay be to be "hush hush." I went out to lunch recently with a friend and we were discussing my ex and being gay; the looks I received were amazing but all I can do is smile back and show people that I'm not some freak. Better yet, the people that go out to Redcoats, Sunshine, or Popi Lounge are even worse.
Anyway, as I stated already this trial brings more lessons to life than simply politics and how our government works.
Posted by Sky, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Jan 20, 2010 at 4:47 pm
Okay - I personally don't care who a person loves, that should only be between the two involved BUT (ya knew it was coming right?) BUT - I don't agree that it should change the current definition. Marriage is the HOLY (church related) service - so if you don't fall within the guidlines of the church you don't get the title they apply.
Come up with a new term - garriage maybe - for gay/marriag) and leave the holy people with their term. You get what you want and so do they. I believe in the "state " recognizing the union - I don't think the church needs to be forced to comply. It's the religious part - you don't comply with them and they shouldn't be forced to comply with you. The state on the other hand should recognize your connection.
Maybe it should just be called "coupling". Legally coupling. ???
Maybe you come up with a different religion - the mormons did ... can't you just try it from that angle. I think these people don't want to be force fed to live by someone else's rules. Same issue as abortion if you ask me - it's mostly religious morals right????
I dunno - it's just another dumb opinion to try to make peace - BUT then I guess neither group is looking for peace. Accept each other as you are. Stay out of peoples bedrooms.
I don't go around deliberately showing people how hetero I am. Live in peace.
Posted by PToWN94566, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Jan 20, 2010 at 11:45 pm PToWN94566 is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
Gunslinger, not everybody is going to like you or your behaviors but you don't see people standing on street corners demanding you to give up your rights. I don't think gay people are asking to be "liked"- we want civil rights and to be recognized by this Nation. There are many people recognized by this Nation, but does every single person like everybody else? No. I've never once demanded respect for someone else- all I believe in is treat others the way you want to be treated. However, when I go out of my way to make polite conversation with people I went to high school with at a bar and then I get nasty, homophobic comments and reactions, how do you think I'm gonna react? Do you think I'm going to get on my knees and be inferior to people? No, I'm going to continue to smile and be polite, even if that person is rude and homophobic.
As for this marriage issue- if anyone looks up it, you'll find many definitions. There is not one sole definition that says marriage is a religious act. What do you say to the people who were married in a court house? Or to people who eloped and are married for 45+ plus years? Are they not entitled to call their union ship a "marriage" just because they didn't stand on alter with a priest, praise a higher being (God), and follow some book with "rules"? The definition of marriage is a social construct and not everyone is going to fit into that mold- gay, straight, bi or whatever. Gay people ARE NOT asking for all churches to recognize their relationships. As I've said before, I would never want to get married in a church or place of worship that doesn't accept people that are gay.
Instead of me and the rest of my community needing to get over it, I think people that continue to tell other's how to live their lives need to get over themselves. Gay people DO NOT CARE if you don't like us. We will NOT invite you to our gatherings, ceremonies, weddings, birthdays, anniversaries etc. We will NOT have some magical power that will make people think "O my, my life changed- a gay person got married."