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Judge delays Oak Grove ruling

Original post made on Feb 29, 2008

It's not over yet for the opponents of the Oak Grove project after Superior Court Judge Frank Roesch delayed making permanent an earlier tenative ruling that favored the development.

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Posted by Sue
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Feb 29, 2008 at 3:53 pm


Finally a voice of reason!

" Roesch's interpretation, at least in his tentative ruling, seems overly strict. If indeed it follows the state code, our legislators should review the law to see if that's really what they intended when placing these requirements on petition proponents. Calling for a referendum should be easier than what Roesch has initially ruled."


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Posted by wondering
a resident of Foothill High School
on Feb 29, 2008 at 4:09 pm

Right you are, Sue. To heck with actually following the law. Let's just make it up as we go! Let's not really read the law, or even really pay attention. Let's just decide what we want to do, and do whatever we want, then complain about how mean the nasty people are who suggest we broke the law.


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Posted by Sue
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Mar 1, 2008 at 10:21 am


I do not live near Oakgrove. I am not a primary supporter of the referendum nor do I share many of the concerns that they have. I do support their right to ask the voters to decide.
I have participated in past referendum. This grassroots group of Pleasanton citizens followed every good faith effort and the guidelines given to them by the City Attorney. The financing has been explained. No money was collected; a handful of citizens/neighbors paid independently as needed. They did not meet the threshold to file disclosure. There is no cover up; reasonably neighbors are typically the start of a call to arms.
The continued accusation of wrong-doing is malicious.
Frank, Stacey and Shelly you are bully's, we can not have a real community exchange of thoughts because no one reasonable wants to play with you.

Fast forward to childish response..................



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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Mar 1, 2008 at 11:11 am

What is more childish? Name calling or self-righteousness?


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Mar 1, 2008 at 11:13 am

Sue, at least I've had the courtesy to never call you names on a public forum or denigrate your name.


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Posted by Sue
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Mar 1, 2008 at 11:40 am



Stacey,
In review of your posts I regret including your name.
My apology.
Sue


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Mar 1, 2008 at 1:03 pm

Apology accepted. We all make mistakes.


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Posted by Questioning???
a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Mar 2, 2008 at 9:27 pm

Sorry Sue, but the handful of neighbors that paid independently as needed met the dollar threshold ($1000, less then the cost of one Weekly ad) for having to file an independent campaign expense disclosure just like political action committees. And i think anyone can reasonably question whether at least one of these neighbors was acting independently when he was pictured with Kay turning in signatures at City Hall. Which then means Kay needed to form a Committee.

What's interesting is that Kay in a very visable manner called for people to follow the money. Please explain why that shouldn't apply to her side? If there's no cover up then why not disclose who these neighbors are and how much they spent? Sorry but it seems to me that what's good for one side should be good for the other side, period. Particularly, in light of all the statements made at City Council meetings by the opponents of Oak Grove.


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Posted by Simple
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on Mar 2, 2008 at 10:15 pm

One word simple answer the the post above.

HYPOCRITE!!!!!


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Posted by confused
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Mar 2, 2008 at 10:27 pm

Hypocrite???? What?

Why is asking for transparency hypocritical? I don't get it? Where did the money for the ads et all come from? I would like to know.


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Posted by Questioning???
a resident of Vineyard Avenue
on Mar 3, 2008 at 7:34 am

I assume Simple is referring to Kay as the citizen's committee seems to have disclosed all their expenses.

Its like Councilmember McGovern saying she doesn't want any houses built in the hills (opposing Oak Grove) while she herself is living in a house on a hill.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Mar 4, 2008 at 4:45 pm

Just checked DomainWeb. No word yet from the court on a ruling. I guess the Council won't be able to discuss the issue tonight and therefore we're looking at the November ballot if there are no appeals and the judge rules in favor of Ayala.


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