Posted by Wlftng, a resident of the Deer Oaks/Twelve Oaks neighborhood, on Dec 4, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Too bad this had to happen...but hey, free groceries...although I'm sure that many people will go back and actually try to pay (seems like it would be difficult to remember exactly what you got if you had more than a couple items)
Posted by Anonymous, a resident of the Amador Estates neighborhood, on Dec 4, 2009 at 10:07 pm
It is very odd to have a bomb threat at a local store in a small town like Pleasanton. I hope the police share more information at some point. I don't like the idea of weird things going on and information being withheld. What exactly was this "pipe"? Something about it must have looked odd, because a plain pipe doesn't normally make people freak out and call the cops. What exactly did they mean by "shredded ends" on the endcaps of the pipe? Were wires sticking out? What else could it have been?
Maybe it's someone from Lucky supermarket who was jealous of safeway and decided to play a trick on them. Lucky is a business full of promises of great prices but a big disappointment. Most stuff I want is higher than than at other places. Safeway is nicer. People are lucky's are elitist and stuck up. One of the cashiers had a very snobby attitude when I went to shop their for the first (and last) time. I'd rather shop at safeway.
Why couldn't the bomb threat have happened at the bagel shop? they too tell lies. If the garbage they sell is a "real NY bagel", then President Obama is a republican.
Posted by safeway empolyee, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Dec 4, 2009 at 11:10 pm
yes, us employees have been coached to say "everything is ok" but, please trust us, if it wasnt, we would not be in the store.....safeway has lied today about the "bomb" because of customer concerns and sales aka money, they have and will continue to spin this story. we as employees are not allowed to talk to the media, i can tell you, we all wish the whole and true store will come out. i have worked at the pleasanton safeway for over 10yrs and within the past 6yrs we have had several bomb threats, but this was the first reall bomb. please feel safe to shop, and trust when we say everything is ok. for if it wasnt, we the workers, would not be there. we hope the person or persons responsible for this will be brought to justice, we are a family and it deeply saddens all of us that even as a joke someone would put us thru this. and YES there are camras in and around the employee break room!!!!!
Posted by Anonymous, a resident of the Amador Estates neighborhood, on Dec 4, 2009 at 11:22 pm
If it was in fact parts for a real bomb, then when is the PD going to come out and say so? We are citizens in this town have a right to know what went on. I will refuse to shop at Safeway unless they stop lying and say exactly what went on.
Posted by safeway empolyee, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Dec 4, 2009 at 11:51 pm
we all simythis with you concers of safety shoping at our safeway store. all tho this was as reall as it gets, it scares ALL of us. please do continue to shop at our store. if it wasnt safe we would not go to work and our union would shut us down, what people do not know is our (employee) hours go by store sale, and the lower our sales mean the lower amount of hours we are able to work and support out famillies, eventho we are all mad about safeway spinning the truethe we count on your buissness. if you have more concerns feel free to contact us privetly at:: firstname.lastname@example.org
Posted by tyu, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Dec 5, 2009 at 12:08 am
Ok, I won't (or any of my family) be in any Safeways until this story is cleared up. Not worth getting blown up for. My money will still be spent at local stores and that money will go to pay for local salaries.
Posted by Anonymous, a resident of the Amador Estates neighborhood, on Dec 5, 2009 at 9:21 am
If it is true that employees at Safeway are given hours based on store sales, then I feel very sorry for them. It's a tough situation. I like the employees at Safeway as they are very friendly and helpful. I wouldn't want them to suffer in any way through indirect pay reductions (ie from fewer hours worked). However, I would think that the union should put pressure on Safeway to do the right thing and come clean about what happened. Yes, I would like to support the employees, but on the other hand I don't want to be inside a store that covers up serious issues such as this.
Perhaps the Safeway executives think that by discussing the story they would scare the public away if in fact this was part of a real pipe bomb. They are actually doing the opposite. By not coming clean about what really went on, the management has convinced me that they don't really care about the people who shop there. It's only a facade. When the government comes out and says "trust us, you are safe", without providing details, it makes me suspicious. Just look at the health issues of people who worked cleanup at the WTC disaster. some of them have cancer and other problems that were likely caused by all the debris and chemicals at that site.
Posted by Anonymous, a resident of the Amador Estates neighborhood, on Dec 5, 2009 at 9:32 am
Here is another thing I find odd:
Lt. Elerick from the Pleasanton PD had the following comment:
"No reason at this point to think that this was a purposely planted item," said Elerick. "... It doesn't appear that someone tried to make us believe that it was an explosive.""
First of all, according to the news reports, this was a pipe with shredded end caps. What were we supposed to think? What, that it was someone's lunch box? Of course people are going to think that is a suspicious item and a potential bomb, that's why the cops got called in the first place! Secondly, regarding the comment that the pipe didn't appear to be "purposely planted", what is such an item doing in an employee locker? This is clearly NOT an item that any of the employees would need to have at work. What kinds of things would people leave in the lockers during a normal workday? Probably a backpack, purse or other type of bag. Items that you do not need to access would probably be left in the trunk of your car.
Posted by Anonymous, a resident of the Amador Estates neighborhood, on Dec 6, 2009 at 6:50 pm
To "safeway employee":
Yes, we understand that the pipe did not contain explosive material. HOWEVER, what has upset people is the fact that Safeway isn't coming clean about what went on. The statements from the police don't make sense. See my earlier post. This sounds like something that was placed in order to get a strong reaction from people. If Safeway continues to act like "everything is ok" without telling anyone what really happened, then I'm not going to trust them enough to shop in the store.
On the other hand, if they came out and said "the police found something that was made to look like a pipe bomb, but wasn't in anyway dangerous because it didn't contain explosives", then I might consider shopping at the store again. It's their spinning that bothers me the most, not the actual pipe with shredded end caps. I mean come on, shredded end caps? How were we not supposed to react to that?
Posted by tyu, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Dec 7, 2009 at 9:19 am
Ok, the bomb wasn't real, I'll accept that for now as a given. Why was it there? Was it a warning? Is it a "Next time it will be real" thing? Is there a nut loose that is unpredictable? Someone who plants fake bombs is not someone I want to be around. All it takes is a reasonable explanation, Safeway going the Tiger Woods route here.
Posted by Claire, a resident of the Vintage Hills Elementary School neighborhood, on Dec 7, 2009 at 9:36 am
My guess is it's an employee who's mad at Safeway. This person probably just did this for attention. Safeway probably hasn't commented because they are investigating this person. It certainly didn't stop people shopping there yesterday. The place was packed. They could have used more employee's who were acting a bit sheepish about the whole thing. However, I do agree, they need to say something and soon. Nobody like a coverup.
People get very stressed this time of year and do bizare things. I've noticed a strange guy, probably "under the influence" hanging out at the bus shelter by Safeway also.
Posted by Anonymous, a resident of the Amador Estates neighborhood, on Dec 7, 2009 at 10:31 am
Speaking of strange people, what's up with the guy who hangs out at the Starbucks around the corner from safeway? He sits in there watching DVD's on a small dvd player. I see him in the morning and sometimes he's still there when I go in later in the day? He never seems to do anything other than watch dvd's. Is he homeless?
Posted by Anonymous, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Dec 7, 2009 at 11:23 am
To the person who was talking about the guy at Starbucks, who cares if he sits there and watches DVDs. Is he hurting anyone, NO. To many people in this town get paranoid over stupid little things. My god, if people don't look like they can afford a million dollar home, the citizens panic. This isn't Maybury, this is the real world.
Posted by Anonymous, a resident of the Amador Estates neighborhood, on Dec 7, 2009 at 12:03 pm
To the "other" anonymous:
Well, when a smelly and dirty person stinks up an otherwise nice establishmen, then yes, we are correct to question what is going on and why he is allowed to stink up the place and ruin everyone else's experience there.
Posted by 188IQ, a resident of the Oak Tree Acres neighborhood, on Dec 7, 2009 at 12:15 pm
I always wonder how some of you survive without simple reasoning and common sense. First of all, in any situation like the bomb scare (whether real or a hoax) those in charge will get everyone to safety and then feed info on as needed basis. This is so as not to overly alarm and cause panic among the masses. But rest assured, the public safety concerns have come first. If some of you won't shop at a certain place because of a "scare" then you might as well as stay in your home 24/7/365...because anything can happen anywhere without warning...that is life. Secondly, those of you who do not realize that employee hours are based on customer sales must live in your houses 24/7/365. Labor is the single greatest expense in any business. (Wages, training, taxes, etc) ALL retail stores monitor customer counts so that they can cost effectively staff their stores. So, yes if people stop shopping at Safeway because of this scare, employee hours will be modified. Same goes for schools...if there are not enough kids filling up a school...then they need to consolidate schools and layoff teachers...same goes for public transportation,etc.,etc., etc....so sharpen up your reasoning and common sense skills and you'll survive in this world a whole lot better....
Posted by Anonymous, a resident of the Amador Estates neighborhood, on Dec 7, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Your reasoning is incorrect. We have choices and if an organization is not performing to the degree that they should, then plenty of us will take our business elsewhere. It's as simple as that.It has nothing to do with reasoning or survival. It's about patronizing establishments that offer quality services and are honest and forthright.
Posted by tyu, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Dec 7, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Posted by Anonymous, a resident of the Amador Estates neighborhood, 48 minutes ago
What you said to "188IQ" is true.
"will get everyone to safety and then feed info on as needed basis". During the event that was carried out, people were evacuated and the police were notified. Here's a question that is need to know, is it now safe? Nowhere is safe, true, but is there a continuing situation beyond the normal dangers of a suburban griccery store? It's not a hospital or even the DMV, there are many stores to pick from here in town that sell the same items. If we shop at Nob Hill we hurt the Safeway and vice-versa. Anyway Safeway can handle it as they want, and so can shoppers. They think they are doing what is best for sales that's it. If it works it works, but it is a stategy based on money, not on what is best for a shopper. If they are truthful and forthcoming it might hurt or help them, but that seems to be plan B.
Posted by Great Granny, a resident of the Danbury Park neighborhood, on Dec 8, 2009 at 8:35 am
Thank you for a very well written and intelligent post. You sound logical and you make sense!
However, please drop the high IQ label. I used to date a man who was a Stanford PhD (plus a few Masters under his belt), member of Mensa and a member of two other even HIGHER IQ clubs. And, what did it get him? It didn't get him ME!!!
Posted by Anonymous, a resident of the Amador Estates neighborhood, on Dec 8, 2009 at 6:50 pm
To "Great Granny":
You are incorrect in saying that "188" has an intelligent post. Well written perhaps, but the information presented by that person is incorrect. "188" is more interested in pontificating than engaging in thoughtful discussion.
Posted by 188IQ, a resident of the Oak Tree Acres neighborhood, on Dec 8, 2009 at 9:10 pm
No, Anonymous of Amador Estates, I was not pontificating. I was expressing my opinion. I did not plan on having a discussion with anyone, I was posting my opinion. However, how is the information I presented incorrect?
Posted by 188IQ, a resident of the Oak Tree Acres neighborhood, on Dec 9, 2009 at 7:44 am
Anon...I read your earlier comment. My facts were correct. I did not say people didn't have choices. I said that people wouldn't be allowed back in the store if it weren't safe. And that this type of action could happen anywhere at anythime. What many of you are not realizing is that the police need to investigate the incident fully before making detailed public statements. They cleared the scene, it was safe to go back into the store.It was announced there was no explosive. Why do you need to have every bit of detail? The Pleasanton Police and the Safeway corporation didn't/aren't putting their work load/profits before your safety. So they didn't give every bit of the details, bottom line it was safe to return, if you wanted to.
Posted by Anonymous, a resident of the Amador Estates neighborhood, on Dec 9, 2009 at 8:21 am
to 188: There's no sense in repeating the same discussion. See my earlier statements. You are conveniently leaving out the places where you personally attacked people and criticized others for their opinions. Point closed.
Posted by NLJ, a resident of Livermore, on Mar 30, 2010 at 7:16 pm
In true Pleasantonian fashion, this discussion designed to promote the sharing of knowledge has turned into a pissing contest between those whose opinions of self are elevated much higher than they need to be. I hate you people, you are the reason working retail is a good reason to commit suicide. Your shit stinks too.