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PW is the worst kind of PC - Censorship is alive and well at PW

Original post made by Dan Doerr on Nov 23, 2009

To stop the commentary on a very real and current issue, namely, how to interpret potentially very serious warning signs presented by extremists, Emily decided that we should no longer have the right to comment, as reflected in her cavalier and blatantly dishonest closing post:

Posted by Emily West, Pleasanton Weekly reporter, on Nov 19, 2009 at 10:57 am
Emily West is a member (registered user) of Pleasanton Weekly

These comments have run their course. Thanks for posting.



There are strings here that date several months. Why does PW lock this thread after 5 days? This is supposed to be a newspaper site. Free speech! Open discourse! Opposing points of view.

You already censor out what you find to be objectionable, without giving readers an opportunity to view the comments after having been warned that they too might find them objectionable.

Now you squash comments because "the comments have run their course"??? In fact the latest comment was posted only a couple of hours before you locked the thread.

Nearly every other thread on this site is still open essentially forever. When the comments have truly run their course the comments just stop. It is easy to see when noone cares any more. Why is this one different?

You know why, and so do we.

Yet, this is exactly what we should be discussing in an open manner. Many of the Fort Hood Shooter's former collegues from Walter Reed have been quoted as saying that the red flags were there, and they would have reported them, but they didn't want to appear to be discriminating against a Muslim.

Now our governement is spending beacoup bucks investigating just exaactly why none of the warning signals were heeded and people had to die.

What do you think those investigators would do upon hearing the facts of this incident? Censor discussion?

Oh, sorry for asking this question. Emily doesn't want it asked, let alone answered here. After all, this is the PW.

Shame on you Emily. And shame on your management for allowing you to do this and not firing you for it.

Comments (11)

Posted by jimf01, a resident of another community
on Nov 23, 2009 at 2:47 pm

jimf01 is a registered user.

Take it easy on Emily, the thread was locked after 7 days, not 5, and there is another thread still open on the same exact topic.
The PW editors appear to not want to have to police multiple threads for the inflammatory stuff people post here anonymously.
In addition, users are allowed to post new threads on the same story, so censorship is hardly a term you can use to describe the thread locking and comment deleting that occurs here.
Granted, I think in forums on many news sites, PC does come into effect, i.e. commenters can get away with saying things about one religious group or politician that would be deleted if it were said about a different religion or politician, but that reflects California culture and America in general.


Posted by Dan Doerr, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 23, 2009 at 3:18 pm

Sorry You are right. It was 7 days especially if you count from midnight till 11:00 am as a day.

Doesn't change the fact that the reason given is total BS and it shouldn't have been locked at all. Previous comment was only a couple of hours previous.

And the other thread - also locked. Just not with the dishonesty in Emily's post that the "comments had run their course"


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 23, 2009 at 4:12 pm

Did Emily hurt your feelings hurt dd?






Posted by Dan Doerr, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 23, 2009 at 4:34 pm

cholo

I have noticed you a lot on these boards. You generally contribute nothing except personal attacks on legitimate posters. Here you go again!

I won't expect you to understand but argumentem ad hominem is a fallacy of reasoning.

You should leave grown up matters to grown ups.

OK?


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 23, 2009 at 7:19 pm

what i suspect is that emily hurt your feelings...right?

you don't like muslim and somebody gets that you're about spreading hate...

how come you hate muslims?

now, did emily hurt your feelings...tee hee hee, tee hee hee...homo...nem?


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 23, 2009 at 7:22 pm

clap clap...dani doer has fallen down and he can't get up...clap clap!


Posted by cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 24, 2009 at 9:36 am

I humbly apologize for my behavior. I often use vulgarity in my posts, attack other posters, and accuse anyone who holds a different opinion than my own as being racist.
The truth is I am a lonely person. I have no friends and posting on these blogs is the extent of my social life.
I deliberately make inflammatory comments to get attention.
DD, you are right, I need to grow up.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Nov 24, 2009 at 9:51 am

Nice try! dd...were you so hurt by Emily's actions that you have now become a Cholo wannabe? tee hee hee, tee hee hee...go ask mommy to kiss you co-co and everything will be OK again...you betcha!


Posted by Curious, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 24, 2009 at 10:12 am

Cholo, your comments add no value. Get a life and become a productive member of society.


Posted by Really?, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 24, 2009 at 4:18 pm

You complain about censorship, then in the same post attempt to censor someone for posting something you don't like.

"Free speech! Open discourse! Opposing points of view." <----Your rant

Now it is up to Dan Doerr to decide what is of value on this site. I seem to remember many who did the same to the prattle and tattle gentleman.

Interesting. Sounds like you don't mind censorship after all.


Posted by 40 year resident, a resident of Highland Oaks
on Nov 25, 2009 at 12:47 am

You know I've noticed this Cholo guy constantly bashing people and taking comments too personally. He does post alot too, but I think he is a senior citizen not a youngster. I don't know many young people whom read PW and I know of NO Livermore residents that do. He's amusing at best and pathetic at worst. He also employs a technic that is used by extremist, "you hate Muslims". Making inflammatory comments with no basis in facts. Let him drone on.


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