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by Steve, Avignon,
on Nov 6, 2009
Is anyone surprised? No one should be. All of his actions are against capitalism and freedom of action. Government control, welfare state, advance minority agenda, suppress the middle class. Pelosi is not so far behind. Californians, WAKE UP and GET YOUR NOSE out of your Starbucks!
Not only is Obama showing his true colors, but Geo.W and his wife made a secret visit to Ft. Hood showing their true colors...red, white & blue.
So a former President who lives two hours away from the scene pays a visit and he's somehow more 'red, white, and blue' than the current President, with Presidential responsibilities, in Washington, D.C., who will be appropriately attending the memorial services?
To help me understand.........YES
"The Bushes, who have a 1,600-acre property known as Prairie Chapel Ranch less than 30 miles from Fort Hood in central Texas, spent between one and two hours visiting the wounded and their families."
How could he NOT go? He IS a former POTUS, 30 minutes away...
Sorry, I think you're stretching it big time on this one. President Obama is going on Tuesday.
I don't think that it's such a big deal that a former president made a "secret" visit to an military base? Maybe he had an stuffy nose and needed an antihistamine for free.
"Presidential responsibilities on Washington D.C." but he had time to go "lobby" for the Chicago Olympics.
So when he goes to a military memorial service as Commander in Chief, it's a photo op? Using that logic, I guess he shouldn't go at all?
In addition to having planned a trip to Chicago to lobby for the Olympics, he is planning a trip to the memorial services for the victims of Thursday's massacre.
You forgot to mention how pissed off you are that he's NOT going to the 20th anniversary of the removal of the Berlin Wall.
How frustrating it must be for you to try to keep track of all your different standards for the president's behaviour.
So let's compare this to when Bush Jr did an entire skit at the white house correspondence dinner joking about searching for those dang missing weapons of mass destruction around the white house. HAHA So Funny...we can't find those darn weapons anywhere! Ain't we hilarious!
When you criticize this, you can get all huffy about obama. Otherwise, stop trying to capitalize on a national tragedy to score political points against obama.
What in the HE** are you bantering about Bush & Obama. The ONLY thing that matters, is that this assassin told many people that as a muslim, he did not like the idea of personally fighting other muslims. He had understood upon entering that he wouldn't have to actually go 'fight'. Recently when he found out he was going, he rebelled. ( there is a chance this was his plan all along...must see his emails to the radical Muslim leader). The tragedy is there were plenty of available clues...that our 'politically correct' system would not allow to be checked. So accept the consequences or grow up and make rational, objective, honest decisions. Sh*tcan the BLIND, suicidal, PC c**p. We don't have to go overseas to find calculating enemies. Your choice. Deal with it, or not.
oh my you esplain everythin so good...how did learn to do it? hmmmmmmmm...
I guess it's easier to blame some abstract notion for the tragedy than anything else. I just find it amazing you can allude to him being a terrorist, while he's been in the US Army since 2001, I believe. If he is a terrorist, he's a domestic terrorist.
Are you kidding me with this PC crap. We throw people in Gitmo and torture them for the sole reason of being Muslim, and the US system is PC???
BTW, regarding the original topic. Bush made a point to say (to the media) that he and Laura still found something to laugh about regarding 9/11 when they went to bed that horrible night. Insensitive doesn't even cover it. He had no idea how inappropriate that was for him to say that. In addition, he did nothing but politicize 9/11 at every opportunity from then on.
Obama actually has a heart and a soul.
Janna, Where can one find where Bush said he found something to laugh about regarding 9/11 when he and Laura went to bed that night.
Here you go:
It's near the bottom of the page. I just can't imagine, especially on a day like 9/11, having a laugh about how you look if you really think your life is in danger and your being moved to a safe location. Something is just not right there.
Janna...your example is so lame.
Admit it, you hate Bush so much that you'll take any excuse and twist it against him. Get over it, Bush is no longer President and it Obama is responsible for the economy and national defense now. Both are in decline and the buck now stops with Obama.
In an earlier post, you revealed that you and family were having a personal challenge making ends meat. For that reason alone, you should seriously consider embracing more of a free-market conservative philosophy and mindset. Socialism (and its logical path to communism) leads to mass poverty.
If you want a better understanding of the ravages of socialism, I encourage you to read the classic "Road to Serfdom" by Freidrich von Hayek (Nobel prize winning Economist) >>> Web Link
Our President Obama is such a disappointment and not up to the job at all. Did you see the picture today of him making a 5 foot tall emperor of Japan look 7 feet tall by bowing to him. Our President is just crashing and burning. He is in asia while our economy is in turmoil. I guess it got to hot for him here so he needed to run off and hide or get some microphone time.
Bush took vacations constantly while we were at war no less. At least Obama is engaged in diplomacy. Get a grip!
I wouldn't waste my energy hating Bush. What's lame was him, over and over. If you find that behavior acceptable, I'm not surprised.
Whether you care to admit it or not, Bush is responsible for this economic nightmare, that yes, my family and I have been hit hard by. My husband lost his job under Bush's so-called free market, not socialism. Exactly, how is socialism supposed to be hurting me right now? The free market doesn't have much in the way of jobs, so I'm not sure how you claim it's working, unless a large portion of the populous is supposed to be unemployed under that philosphy. Unfortunately, the ideals of the free market don't take into account human suffering, but then neither do conservatives.
Janna, you just want to blame Bush for the loss of your husbands job. Bush is gone and probably had nothing to do with your husband losing his job. We all have problems and need to self reflect and fix our onw issues rather than expecting big brother to save us.
I agree with Rita, our President has no soul or spine. Remember him hammering Bush about New Orleans? Obama has only been to NOLA one time for 4 hours on his way to LA for a fundraiser. How many times has he travelled abroad? How many rounds of golf has he played, basketball anyone? He is terrible and unfortunately we are the recipients of his failures and it will continue.
I am 58 and was once a democrat with views identical to yours. So I understand your emotions. However, after a great deal of introspection and also a better understanding of economics, I came to the conclusion that everything I had been taught in my formative years about the difference between democrats and republicans was wrong.
I was raised in a family with modest means...father was a teacher and mom was a nursery school teacher part time. Ok...we had less that modest means. My parents were FDR democrats. I was told that Goldwater was a crazed extremist. Also, that democrats were for the 'little guy' while republicans - the party of the country clubbers - were for 'big business.'
After graduating in the early 70s with a degree in teaching from a small midwest town, I found out what it was like to stand in the unemployment line during the Carter years. I also found that I could either substitute teach or continue to collect unemployment ... which paid more than substitute teaching! Then it hit me that providing an incentive NOT to work was wrong for me and for the country.
I then began to evaluate the end result of other democrat programs, like minimum wage for example. I learned of the terribly negative impact of minimum wage on small business owners who cannot afford to hire...and on the impact of entry level job seekers who cannot find work.
It seemed to me that democrats...and the media were only viewing the democrat programs' intent...but not outcomes and end results.
Look at the end results of cities where democrats have been in power for decades...Detroit, New Orleans, Newark, Oakland... You said "conservatives don't care about human suffering" ... I submit to you that it is just the opposite. It is democrats who want to keep people dependent on them and provide huge barriers to success.
I am a strong believer that most democrats have good intentions...but they deliberately not to evaluate the outcome of their programs and of their philosophy. Because the outcomes of their programs are cruel. Yes...I said it...cruel.
One more example...if the nationalized healthcare program is passed and implemented...you will redefine what it means to suffer when you are denied the care you once had with your private insurance. Here again, democrats are cruel...rationing and denying treatment. In case you did not hear Robert Reich's clip, the democrats (like him) will deny you coverage in your later years and will let you die.
Do you call that compassionate?
Janna...I may have rambled on too long. However I am passionate that others re-evaluate their beliefs about the different outcomes between democrats and republican policies and philosophy. I submit to you that it is the republicans who are the compassionate ones who want to elevate the human condition and quality of life for everyone.
I could say the same about you blaming Obama for everything except he's been in office since January and Bush had 8 years to complete his damage. That argument is emaciated.
I have no health care, have already had care rationed to me by my HMO (when I had insurance) and worry that me or my husband will have a health problem that will forever bans us from getting insurance due to preexisting conditions. That is a reality I face everyday. Do you face that reality too? Republicans think that's just dandy when people die from lack of care. That's why they don't want reform and do nothing but stand in the way. They are obviously out of touch because they do not see the urgency, hence my next paragraph.
Republicans are compassionate!? That's some funny stuff!!!! I've never a met one. You are only compassionate to yourselves. Ha! From what I've seen, you'd walk around dead people dying from lack of access to care if they were lining the streets, which may be in your future. Except for things like war, republicans have no interest in Americans and their security or health. The audacity of complaining about deficits all the while spending billions on wars of choice. Too bad republicans will never choose to take care of our sick over enriching a business.
And if I ever considered crossing over to the dark side, I'd tell my husband to take me out back and shoot me, as surely I must have lost my mind.
You're right. Bush was a saint who even gave up golf in honor of the 9/11 victims. Silly me to think he sucked as a president.
I guess if you think Bush had nothing to do with the economy while he was president of it, then I guess you could say he wasn't somehow responsible. I'm not sure how that could be considered logical, but whatever. I know!!!Maybe it was the thought of Obama winning some five years before that sent our economy into the downward spiral it's in. (Rolls eyes). I'm sure you'll come up with something.
I am sorry to hear of your personal challenges. I don't know what your education, background, skills, experience is in the work environment, and of your husband's as well. However, given that this is a free country, you two have freely made certain decisions that have resulted in your situation. If you are unable to receive the assistance you need, there are some non-profit organizations that might be of help (example: United Way).
With the Obama Admin in office, however, the funds for charitable organizations will be dramatically reduced...since Obama is taxing us more and more. I cannot afford contributing as much to my favorite charitable organizations.
Therefore, where services of charitable organizations may have to be reduced or stopped the government may have to fill in...or not. If the Govt does pick up the slack, then people will just have to wait in line for their "efficient and effective" services.
You strike me as a very very bitter person who blames everyone but themselves for their current situation. Further, you also seem to have an 'entitlement' mentality that is so emblematic of the liberal democrats.
I wish you the best...for your "hope and change" . Don't hold your breath under Obama because he does not care about you.
I thought the rich were responsible for all the charitable giving? I heard several times that if we tax the rich more, they will stop giving and all the poor people will suffer. Now you're telling me it's the government? Huh?
I know you're trying hard, but you will never convince me that eight years of republicanism is not the reason our country is in the shape it's in. I do blame Bush for the economy. He spent all his time with his foreign follies and paid zero attention to the situation here. People were suffering here and he didn't care because he was the war president and blew our wad over there.
I know you're trying to imply otherwise, but I am an educated, thoughtful, well-informed liberal democrat and so is my husband. I have a job already that is unfortunately undervalued by our society, and pays no money and you want to imply I'm a liberal democrat who doesn't work hard enough and that we're all like that. That's just crap! I'm so sick of hearing of people aren't working hard enough.
What I think I am entitled to is for my husband to find a job. I don't consider that feeling entitled when a job is a necessity. You want to imply that people are bums, when there are thousands vying for few jobs. I guess blaming the person who is unsuccessful is easiest. Damn right I'm bitter. Scraping by and basically not being viewed as worthy in the eyes of people like you makes me that way.
This short 10min video is for you regarding the sequence of events that led to the financial meltdown last year.
These events are well-documented as fact. Do your own research if you still do not believe these events are true.
Warning...this video will challenge your beliefs about Bush causing the crisis. (Yes, by the way, he was not totally innocent...because he approved the bailout which was very very un-conservative. I was opposed to it and was upset at Bush for doing so!)
I look forward to your reaction to this clip.
People that got the ball rolling which lead to most of the financial mess we're in: Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Chris Dodd and Barney Frank...
They all thought everyone deserved "the American Dream"(owning a home), whether qualfied or not. Then the defaults began...
Clinton originated the idea - Bush and Obama kept the ball rolling...
Bush can be given some credit for finally seeing the light and warning Congress of the impending disaster with Freddie and Fannie, only to be rebuffed by Dodd and Frank(Remember Frank's, "Freddie and Fannie are in great shape" and Dodd killed a proposal to reign them in)...
If I'm wrong, I'm always willing to be educated...
You are close. The mess originated with Carter's Community Redevelopment Program and Clinton expanded this program exponentially.
Check the youtube clip in the previous posting.
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