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Original post made by Johnny, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on Oct 31, 2009


From Naval Aviator, Commander Jerry Wilson
 

We lived in California during the winters of 2007 and 2008. We became
 addicted to Fox News and watched O'Reilly and Hannity and Colmes every night. When we got back home, we upgraded our cable to get Fox.

I watched the Presidential campaign very closely. Initially because I thought the Democrats would nominate Hillary Clinton and then in astonishment when they chose an even more hard-left candidate. All

of last year I told everyone I could that Obama was not a Democrat,

he was a Marxist. He is far to the left of any European leader and even our far left party, the NDP.

 I read Saul Alinsky when I was in the University. I studied him and

his writing carefully. When Bill Ayers and his idiot wife were bombing and killing people at random in the Weather Underground, the Weather Underground and the Black Panthers were closely allied. I read David Horowitz's account of changing from a Marxist to a conservative after seeing that the government was afraid to prosecute members of the Panthers for murdering his personal assistant. He suddenly understood the evil that Marxism really was. After the student radicals failed in creating a Marxist revolution in the United States by violent means,

they embraced Alinsky. You would be wise to read "Rules for Radicals" because it outlines how Hillary and Obama planned to get into power, and what they intended to do when they got it. 

 Socialism is not the correct descriptor for what Obama and theDemocrats are doing. They are going to be much more far reaching than anything Sweden has ever been able to do. Obama is following Alinsky's plans, those set out in"Rules for Radicals" and his other writings.

The Democrats are attempting to create one party rule in the U.S. and in achieving that, will create crisis after crisis by their own actions and use those crisis to nationalize the means of production in the U.S. You are in the middle of a communist revolution and few in the U.S. can actually see it for what it truly is. 

 The U.S. is now on the path of  financial destruction. The Constitution has been shredded and individual human rights are being trampled. In less than 8 months, Obama has used a recession to take over the two largest industries in the U.S.

He will debase the Dollar and is on the road to creating an incredible energy shortage that will allow him and Congress to take over the
energy industry. 

But by and large I think that by the 2010 elections, the Democrats will have gerrymandered electoral districts to the point that it will be impossible for them to lose control of both houses of Congress.

The incredible increase in the money supply is going to create Zimbabwe and Venezuela style inflation, and with it, controls on the currency and the amount of money that can be taken out of the country.

 I love America and I cannot believe how the ignorance of the American public has created a situation where by they are going to lose their Republic and slip into an age of repression and tyranny.

 I may be nuts, but so far I have been 100% in my predictions of what Obama was going to do, because I merely had to look at

"Rules for Radicals" to see what was coming next.

 I read Glenn Beck's book, "Common Sense" and in it re-read Thomas Paine's pamphlet with the same name. I recommend the book.

 When the storm finally hits (and it will), those of you who supported

the Obama administration will be affected as well. It won't just be us

gun owners or Flat-Taxers, or Pro-Lifers that get hit. You'll be right

there next to us.
 

You all thought the Conservatives were nut cases. You know, all of us who believe in God, small government, the Second Amendment, etc.

You thought you could just go back to sleep after the election was over.

In your world, America will continue as before. You'll still have the

same rights, the same nice house, the same big screen television. After all, your high school football team won and the other team lost "go team"! Even if you have bothered to look up from the daily grind since Nov 4th, you dismissed everything that has occurred as "politics as usual"the same old stuff. 

In the end, it'll all be OK won't it?

Not this time. 

There are a growing number of citizens in the US that are ready to fight to shut down the government's grab of personal freedom, it's blatant abuse of the constitution, and it's attempt to replace the American way

of life with socialism.

You have to listen carefully to hear them, but they are there. I won't

start that fight, but when it goes down I will join it.

 As for you, why, you'll be shocked because you didn't see it coming.

And eventually you'll be saddened when you see that we have truly lost the way of life with which you grew up. You'll be saddened that your children and grandchildren live in a socialist, government-controlled gulag where their every movement from cradle to grave is tracked by

the government.

But most of all, you'll be saddened by the death of friends and relatives who are brave enough to fight and die for something they believe in.

You know, McCain wasn't much of a candidate. I'll give you that.

He was the lesser of two evils for most of us. I don't blame you for not voting for him since, at the time, you didn't know what we all know now. But at least John McCain was an American. He was a supporter of the American way of life and he understood that you can't negotiate with terrorists.

He understood and appreciated the sacrifice made by my father and other members of the Greatest Generation.
 

Mark my words friends. All across America groups are forming.

They are forming out of anger and out of desperation at the thought

of losing America  .

 

They're not militia groups, terrorists as the Department of Homeland
security would have you believe; they are Americans, loyal to the
constitution. They are mothers and fathers and grandparents. They belong to groups like the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps, the Peaceful Resistance, the Constitution Party, the Young Conservatives, the 9/12 Project, and Grassfire. Right now they are fragmented, each focused

on their own cause.

 But sometime in the next two years, our government is going to do something really stupid and these groups will come together.

Watch for it, wait for it and get ready.

It will happen.

When that event happens, whatever "it" is, our great country is

going to plunge into chaos for a while.

I pray to God that we make it through that

time and emerge a stronger, smarter country. 

Comments (39)

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Posted by Patti
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 31, 2009 at 5:58 pm

yes and unfortunately I was a participant by voting for President Obama. I feel like such a fool for being used .


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Posted by origi posto bo
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 31, 2009 at 8:34 pm

patti,

since you seem to agree with a nutbag rant like this, how do you know you're not being used as a fool this time? Maybe foxnews will have a story about how to handle it since you now take your marching orders from them...


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Posted by !
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Oct 31, 2009 at 9:41 pm

Dear Orgi...
Have you ever heard of the "boiled frog syndrome?" If not, look it up. You are being boiled by Obama and you don't even realize it. When you wake up someday, it'll be too late.

I applaud Patti above for waking up, despite her support of Obama during the election.

I, however, knew about Obama and his socialist/marxist past. I am from the southside of Chicago, where he was steeped in his ACORN activities. He is a very dangerous person who is dedicated to the complete destruction of capitalism in America, hence the destrustion of America itself. His goal is for maximum chaos in America, which will really start heating up after we have food riots throughout the Country, as a result of food shortages. This is a main objective of his toward a more destructive end. Wake up.


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Posted by DaleG
a resident of Birdland
on Oct 31, 2009 at 10:34 pm

A very subtle yet telling quote from Obama came ragarding a large oil company when he said "they are not going to give up those profits easily." That one statement signaled the end of capitalism that this country has grown on. He doesn't care what it takes, Obama is ready to take any and all profits from companies in this country. He is the Robin Hood of 2009.


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Posted by mark
a resident of another community
on Oct 31, 2009 at 10:43 pm

Jerry, you are right about a lot of this, but I dont think you are seeing the whole picture. Obama is not calling the shots, he is just a puppet for the banksters just like Bush was/is. One could say that the banksters own all of Washington DC. They own both parties, therefore there is only one party. They also own the media which includes Fox news.

You said:

"The Constitution has been shredded and individual human rights are being trampled."

I totally agree with that, but it was the Bush administration that did the most damage there. In no way am I supporting Obama, I'm saying that Bush and Obama are owned by the same people and are pushing the same endgame scheme. Its the banksters (Rothschilds and company) that own the Federal Reserve Bank and they control everything in the USA and are calling the shots, and that is the fact of the matter. Check out the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 and Jekyll Island.

I commend you though for trying to wake up the sheople, I've tried to myself. The problem is these banksters own the politicians, the media, hollywood, education, and all the corporations. That is what happens when they control the nations money. The sheople are totally brainwashed. The biggest weapon of mass deception ever, the television.


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Posted by Think about it
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 1, 2009 at 12:22 am

If conservatives were so afraid of Obama, why did McCain elect Palin as his VP choice? I was planning to vote for McCain, but then he selected Palin, and that was it for me. I voted for Obama.

If conservatives are afraid of people like Obama, then they should select someone smart in 2012. I do not like Obama, but I am more scared of backwards, ignorant people like Palin, I am also afraid of the nuts out there (tea party express, questioning birth certificate, they sound quite racists as well, imo). Unless the conservatives come up with a good, smart candidate in 2012, Obama might just get re-elected, despite his bad policies. Someone like Palin would never get my vote. The extreme right is just as scary as the extreme left

As for the financial destruction of this country: don't forget that Bush is well, perhaps responsible?


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Posted by Patti
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 1, 2009 at 8:20 am

PB,

I guess I was just fooled by the smoke and mirror as they say. I believed in the hope and change thing. What I have seen is not hope at all but definitely change. Change which I believe will make the US far worse but will feather the pockets of people like our President and his Chicago crew. I was in Europe with my husband a couple of weeks ago and was watching an English comedian and he said something which is quite true....."Only in America can a person never work nor achieve anything, write a book about non achievement and make a fortune doing it!" and "Obama wants to change the very thing which made him money!" more laughter from the audience. We were there months ago and they idolized President Obama and now it seems from talking with people there in the cafes that they believe him unqualified for the job and says we/he look small as a result


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Posted by disgust
a resident of another community
on Nov 1, 2009 at 9:20 am

Facts about Obama.

1. He was not born in the US and is not a US citizen.
2. He will not say the pledge of allegiance.
3. He will not swear on the bible.
4. He is a Muslim.
5. He is a Marxist.
6. He hates America.
7. He will not condemn the attacks on America on September 11 and was known to have said "they got what they deserved."
8. He is a terrorist and got terrorist training in Pakistan from radical Muslims.

And the most terrifying of all:

8. There is now evidence that he was involved in the planning and providing material aid to the attackers on 911.

All of this is out there on Internet and has been fact checked. Do your research. People need to discover the truth.


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Posted by !
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 1, 2009 at 9:52 am

Dear Disgust:
I am with you on your points from 1-6 and wholeheartedly believe his intentions are to remake America as the economic equivalent of Zimbabwe.

However, points 7, 8 and 9 you may lose credibility if you don't back up those statements. Those are pretty strong and even with my anti-Obama position, I have not heard those claims. I encourage you to please re-post to substantiate your claims with the links you say are available on the internet.


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Posted by digust
a resident of another community
on Nov 1, 2009 at 10:53 am

To my great American friend,

Web Link

Web Link

The government doesn't want you to see these. The media is to afraid to get these stories out.


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Posted by origi po bo
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 1, 2009 at 1:24 pm

Let's go over the last 7 democratic presidents and what the right-wing in this country said about them:
- FDR is a communist. He hates the free market system that has made our country so great. So what if 30% of the country is out of a job, it happens. But it doesn't give him an excuse to impose undue burdens on our economy like a minimum wage, rights to form unions, social security (COMMUNISM!) and an oppressive tax burden on our hardest (only) working americans. He hates america and wants the russians to take over europe, which is why we need people like adolph hitler in germany to stand up to the soviet threat.
-Truman is a communist. He hates america and wants to see all our successes in europe turn to dust. He wants to hand western europe over to the russians and won't do anything to stop them. He didn't even kick them out of germany. And he lost China to the communists too. That's 1/4th of the world's population now communist because Truman is secretly in league with them. And he fired MacArthur too! He wants us to lose in Korea. He fired MacArthur because he was winning the war and Truman is too much of a wimp to use the bomb on the chinese (even though he used it on the Japanese). Why does he hate America so?

- JFK was a communist. He hated America. He wanted to surrender to the Russians. He gave up on Cuba. He let the russians put missiles in there just to scare us all into thinking he was tough on the russians, when really it was a big ruse to give up our missiles in turkey. He gave up on East Germany and was willing to surrender western europe to them. Not to mention south east asia...this is why i regret my vote for JFK and joined the john birch society.

- LBJ was a communist. He signed the civil rights act and enacted medicare and the great society. He's a socialist who hates america. He wants to destroy the free market system and replace all our jobs with jobs for the blacks and mexicans. He lost the vietnam war and surrendered to the russians there. So what if he's from texas, he still hates America.

- Carter was a communist. He hates america and has nothing but disdain for it. He says we're in a malaise. He wants us there so we'll surrender europe to the communists. Because he is one. And he lost Iran too and the entire mideast with it. He's driving up interest rates and gas prices on purpose so he can push his radical environmentalist philosophy. A 55MPH speed limit? Ethanol?!?! COMMUNISM! He's purposely destroying our economy so he can institute a radical form of socialism.

- Clinton was a communist. His economic reform plan of 1993 is going to destroy our economy. Just you watch, the dollar will tank and the socialists will take over (communists too, if they're still around). He's a drug runner and murdered vince foster to cover it up. He killed Ron Brown too to cover it up. And look at hillary. She's a secret lesbian, don't you know, with a plan to impose homosexuality on our schools and push a radical leftist ideology. His healthcare plan is a secret attempt to impose socialism on us. He wants us to fail. He didn't kill Osama Bin Laden either, so 9/11 is all his fault even though we all know his attempts at taking out Bin Laden were a distraction from his impeachment hearings. He hates America.

- Obama is a communist. He helped the terrorists on 9/11. He hates america and wants to see us fail. It's all part of a secret plot to bring our economy to ruin and then institute a radical leftist agenda to turn our country into a socialist state for the benefit of, of ...um...those people. He hates america and wants to surrender to the taliban and alqaeda and all the terrorist who he's secretly a part of as a secret muslim and someone who helped al qaeda carry out the 9/11 attacks...i saw it all in this blog post, so it must be true. The media just doesn't want you to see it because it's true and the media doesn't ever report anything that's true, which is why i watch fox news. Just check the links to these youtube videos that don't work. They'll prove everything, if they worked...


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Posted by origi po bo
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 1, 2009 at 1:37 pm

and as a secondary statement. Let's review the country's economic performance under democratic presidency versus republican since WW2.

Web Link

Democratic administrations experience markedly higher performance than GOP administrations. I guess this leaves us with one question. Why does the GOP hate America?

And another thread went through this ad nauseum, but if you took the performance of the last administration and applied it to Obama, I can then see how you might have a point that he hates america. Taking the national debt from 5.5 trillion (down 3 trillion under Clinton) and doubling it to 11 trillion in 8 years, getting us into 2 wars, essentially igoring the threat from al qaeda for 9 months, letting afghanistan smolder for 7 years instead of stabilizing it which has lead directly to the current mess there, allowing our infrastructure to degrade to such a degree that bridges are collapsing in Minnesota, levies are collapsing in New Orleans, and food safety grew so lax that people couldn't even eat spinach without fear of being poisoned. Not to mention overseeing the near collapse of our entire financial system and having the GOP's nominee say "the fundamentals of the economy are strong" at the very moment the system was collapsing around him. Yes, if all this had happened under Obama, I could see why you would say he hates america and wants to see it fail. The question is, why don't you say this about Bush and the GOP who had this all happen under their watch???


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Posted by origi po bo
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 1, 2009 at 1:50 pm

RE: ....."Only in America can a person never work nor achieve anything, write a book about non achievement and make a fortune doing it!"

Yeah. Obama never achieved anything. Except for graduating from Columbia, attending Harvard Law School, becoming the first african-AMERICAN to be president of the Harvard Law Review, turning down mulitiple offers from prestigious firms to work in the now apparently much derided work of community organizing (helping people exactly what wingnuts have been begging for for years...take care of their own and pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, etc.), becoming an instructor in Law at the University of Chicago (hardly a low-brow community college) before being elected to the Illinois State Senate, followed by the US Senate, and then Presidency. All this done on his own without any political legacy to take advantage of and purely through his own hard work and sacrifices by his friends and family.

Yes, everything was handed to him on a silver platter. As opposed to George Walker Bush who EARNED everything he ever got. Right? Like his legacy admittance to Yale, his strings-pulled deferments (and skipping out completely from his service) from vietnam, his oil companies financed by his father's friends that he ran into the ground, his admission to Harvard Business School with help of same connections, his connections that helped him buy a baseball team even though he put up little of his own money but made millions on the sale, his election to governor with the help of his father's political connections, his virtual theft of a US election with the help of his father's secretary of state and various republican appointees on the supreme court, etc etc etc.

Yes, it's so true that Obama has just been handed everything and hasn't had to work for a thing and has accomplished nothing. After all, it's so easy for an African-American to get elected president. ANYBODY could do it...


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Posted by !
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 1, 2009 at 1:51 pm

Orig...

I hope you feel better after your (fictional) rant.

For a non-fiction read...try this below

Web Link



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Posted by origi po bo
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 1, 2009 at 2:10 pm

punctuation mark,

Nice response. A link to a book with a review that states: "For those new to the Tea Party, Levin offers a handy roundup of conservative talking points, but anyone paying attention to talk radio over the past few years won't learn anything new. "

You sure put me in my place. If I wanted a handy roundup of conservative talking points, I'd watch Fox news. Thanks anyway.

In the end what this all shows is both the overwhelming lack of new ideas from the right wing in this country and an acknowledgement that the ideas you do have can't stand up to scrutiny. If anyone disagrees with you, it's not that they make valid points and have a different idea of what's best for this country, no, it's that they hate america and want to see it fail, because anyone who doesn't see the world as I do must hate it and must be rooting for its failure, for only my way is the right way and if you're not with me you're against me. Welcome to george bush's america.


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Posted by Be Positive
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 1, 2009 at 2:22 pm

Origi po bo

I think you said it in your posts why they don't say it about the GOP- they are blamers, not solvers. They can reference all the way back to Obama's past in Chicago, but no one can bring up last year's administration, and the tangible destruction it has cost our country.

The irrational jump to "the country is being taken over by our President" is unbelievable. Yet talk of Tea Parties,9/12 groups etc "taking back their country",over throwing the government, and "written" by a Naval commander, telling us to watch for it, get ready for it? I call this high treason and a real concern for the safety of America. How is this letter and the threats stated different from the claims made against our President?

My first reaction to the name calling (sheople), the paranoia (He is a terrorist and got terrorist training in Pakistan from radical Muslims.), and the lies (he hates America) was to laugh. These people can't be serious, I thought. As more people post though, it seems like you really believe these outrageous claims. My reaction now is fear- if this is the GOP talking- I am extremely afraid of your anti-American, terrorists threats. Do you hear yourselves?

Then again...keep up the crazy talk, there is no way your party can be taken seriously. It is doing wonders for voter registration.


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Posted by !
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 1, 2009 at 2:22 pm

You seem pretty edgy, Origi. Did the Fed run out of govt cheese for you today? Or did you have to stand in line for your handout a little too long today?

By the way, when Obama and his social dems, finish destroying the private sector, where do you think they and you will receive your next meal ticket? There is a book that even you might understand, called "The Goose that Laid the Golden Egg"...which I'd recommend if Mark Levin's book is too complicated for you.


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Posted by Janna
a resident of Dublin
on Nov 1, 2009 at 3:13 pm

Nice little hate fest you got going here. A perfect example of the Right Wing Nuttery poisoning our country. More of the same, Obama not a citizen, etc.

Must cut your hands grasping at straws so hard.


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Posted by Stay Cool
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 1, 2009 at 5:09 pm

Stay Cool is a registered user.

'!' - I thought it was the left who was so into dehumanizing their opponents.
I know you like talking about how you know all about how Obama operates because you're from the south side of Chicago, but you never did answer my question about the horse head. You wrote in a previous post:
Posted by !, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Oct 23, 2009 at 5:00 pm
"...where I am from which is southside Chicago...the same district as where Obama was deeply involved with ACORN, sending a horsehead to anyone is tantamount to a mafia-style death threat." First, was it actually you who posted that, or someone stealing your name? Second, I asked you if you really believed that Rahm Emanuel sent an actual horse head to the president of Fox News, and you never replied. I'm still curious as to your response. Maybe it was actually a big block of government cheese.


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Posted by Patti
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 1, 2009 at 5:17 pm

OPC,

Oh my! I had to go out for a few hours and see you have been having quite a little fit here. I was only speaking of President Obama and have not seen anything out of him yet other than failure on this and failure on that. I was not around for the other Presidents. Now that you mention it, coming from his humble beginnings how did he attend a private high school in Hawaii, private university, Occidental College in Southern California, Columbia University, and then Harvard with no money or job? You see I have been looking into his background, albeit late after voting for him but now checking.


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Posted by disgust
a resident of another community
on Nov 1, 2009 at 5:27 pm

Indeed the video is gone, but does anyone seriously doubt that either:

a. He was involved with the attacks on 911, or
b. if not involved he would have been if he could, and
c. in any case he thought the attacks were a GOOD THING

When well America WAKE UP!


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Posted by !
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 1, 2009 at 6:36 pm

StayCool:
Rahm Emanuel has sent an actual dead fish to a polster. When I read Krauthammer's article that Emanuel sent a horsehead to Roger Ailes of FoxNews, I did take it literally given Emanuel's temperment and loathing of Fox.

However, you set me straight. Thank you.


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Posted by Patriot Liberal
a resident of Downtown
on Nov 1, 2009 at 6:47 pm

"posted by Johnny, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Oct 31, 2009 at 2:23 pm"

*The copy and paste brigade strikes again! What Next!

(From Naval Aviator, Commander Jerry Wilson)

Well that was written by a (Naval Aviator Commander), so it must be so, right?

"All of last year I told everyone I could that Obama was not a Democrat, he was a Marxist."

"The Constitution has been shredded and individual human rights are being trampled. In less than 8 months, Obama has used a recession to take over the two largest industries in the U.S."



"You are in the middle of a communist revolution and few in the U.S. can actually see it for what it truly is."

"I love America and I cannot believe how the ignorance of the American public has created a situation where by they are going to lose their Republic and slip into an age of repression and tyranny.




"I may be nuts, but so far I have been 100% in my predictions of what Obama was going to do, because I merely had to look at rules for Radicals" to see what was coming next."

"There are a growing number of citizens in the US that are ready to fight to shut down the government's grab of personal freedom, it's blatant abuse of the constitution, and it's attempt to replace the American way of life with socialism."


"Mark my words friends. All across America groups are forming. They are forming out of anger and out of desperation at the thought of losing America"
______________________________________________________________

Check you self in for a psychological evaluation!












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Posted by origi po bo
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 1, 2009 at 11:51 pm

Mr Exclamation point,

You write: "You seem pretty edgy, Origi."
Perhaps having to spend time on these boards actually having to fight the ridiculous claims that Obama (and by extension anyone who supports him) hates america and wants to see it fail seems like a waste of time. For one thing, you're asking people to prove a negative. Instead of presenting any hard evidence that Obama hates america and the end goal of his aims is to bring down the destruction of america, you just point to how you disagree with his policies and therefore they must be trying to destroy america since your beliefs are the only true course to a successful country and anyone who disagrees must be a force of evil. This is the height of absurdist thinking.

Not even in the lowest days of the idiocy of the bush administration did I ever believe or did I even claim that Bush & Co. were trying to destroy our country. I just believe the policies they were pursuing would do more damage than good to this country, but I never questioned the intentions of the people who pursued these policies or questioned that they thought they were doing what was best for the country. In other words, despite the disasterous results, I never once have thought or claimed that bush's final intentions were to lead us into the mess that we're in. It's just, once again, right wing policies and beliefs put into action have resulted in disaster.

So like I've said before. If it makes you more secure in your beliefs to think that obama is evil, hates america, is the antichrist, or whatever, then fine. There's no point in arguing with someone whose beliefs have no basis in reality. We might as well be arguing over the existence of unicorns...

patti, you wrote: " I was not around for the other Presidents. "

Since part of my original rant included the clinton administration and that administration only left office 8 years ago (january 2001), then you've just placed yourself at 8 years old. How's 3rd grade going? Oh wait, I remember in a previous post you mentioned that both you and your husband hold post-graduate degrees. Hmm...very curious. I guess I must presume that you meant you weren't paying attention to politics until recently. I guess that explains why you're so easily duped by faux news and rightwing blogs questioning how a bank vice president (obama's grandmother) was able to afford the tuition for a private college-prep high school. And I would assume if you do have an advanced degree you probably used student loans to help pay for that degree and will be saddled with that debt for years to come. Considering Obama was only able to pay off his student loans from columbia and harvard after the publication of his first book, nearly 15 years after he graduated from harvard, then you can probably surmise from there how he managed to do it. But if you'd rather believe some blog post somewhere that claims the taliban paid his tuition or whatever, then go with it. You can believe whatever you want, but if you do, you should be kicking yourself for wasting all that money on your "education".


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Posted by !
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 2, 2009 at 6:06 am

Dear Origi (aka Poster Boy),
From your latest posts, I can assume that you tried to read my recommended book, "The Goose That Laid the Golden Egg" but realized that it was too difficult for you to understand.

There is no point in trying to have a logical debate when you use no logic.

Go ahead and worship your marxism since it has been "so effective" in other countries.

The anonymity in these boards are a very good thing for both reader and poster.


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Posted by Patti
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 2, 2009 at 6:37 am

PB,

I feel very sorry for you, so full of hate and you seem to just lash out with anger at anyone or anything which does not fit you paradigm. You seem so lacking in the the ability to objectively reflect on what is going on right now. In addition, you need to live in the present and not dwell so much on the past. You always seem to bring up the past for excuses for the now. By the way, neither my husband nor I borrowed a penny for our educations but rather worked and saved. Took while to complete but when completed was ours with no debt. Additionally, please do more research into how President Obama funded his education, you will be surprised. Have a nice day young man.


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Posted by Stay Cool
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 2, 2009 at 7:10 am

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To '!' and 'Patti,'
Again, you are trying to dehumanize OPB the same way you try to dehumanize Obama. You accuse him of "worshipping marxism," "having no logic," "lashing out with anger," being "full of hate," "dwelling on the past," etc. His reference to Bush was to explain that no matter how much he disagreed with his policies, he never thought he was "trying to destroy America," the mantra of the opponents of the current administration (read, a lot of people on these boards). To me, that is the truly hateful rhetoric.
Most remarkable is that in your posts condemning OPB, neither of you once contributed anything to the debate. Patti, if you are so convinced that Obama funded his education in some underhanded way, be prepared to present the evidence rather than making the claim and saying "look it up."
I was heartened when I saw '!' ask 'Disturbing' for evidence to back up his/her claims that Obama was actually involved in 9/11, etc. Those are some pretty hefty accusations, and I am glad they weren't allowed to go unchecked. We see what proof was offered...
My point is, we can have these discussions without trying to tear down the other side by implying a lack of intelligence or integrity. It really diminishes your presence on these boards.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Nov 2, 2009 at 7:13 am

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Patti wrote: "anything which does not fit you paradigm" and "By the way, neither my husband nor I borrowed a penny for our educations but rather worked and saved."

Well, isn't that just wonderful for you and your husband? If only EVERYONE COULD BE LIKE YOU... Unfortunately the world doesn't work that way, does it?


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Nov 2, 2009 at 7:19 am

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Some people's idea of how things should be is no different from Marx's. You see, Communism, as theorized, requires people to behave a certain way. The underlying assumption is faulty. Any ideology, both on the left and the right, that requires people to behave a certain way does not work because immediately it leads to oppression of those who do not behave in the assumed manner. Wouldn't it be wonderful if everyone could work and save for their own education, health care, etc.? Yes, it would. Is it possible? If it were, we wouldn't have these topics as major societal issues.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Nov 2, 2009 at 7:22 am

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Repeat and rinse.

Any ideology that requires people to behave a certain way does not work because immediately it leads to oppression.

This is why the right's social conservatism fails. This is why the left's social engineering fails.


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Posted by !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
a resident of Del Prado
on Nov 2, 2009 at 9:17 am

Stay Uncool and Spacey,

How stupid are you two? The answer is pretty stupid! Can't you read or are you just sitting there spewing the same marxist bs? The answer is sewing marist bs. Read PB's post as he was not talking about Bush he went back to FDR..........think about living in the past? Notice that there are only a couple of people who even respond to you anymore? That is because it is a waste of time to do battle with someone as tainted as you two.

"- FDR is a communist. He hates the free market system that has made our country so great. So what if 30% of the country is out of a job, it happens. But it doesn't give him an excuse to impose undue burdens on our economy like a minimum wage, rights to form unions, social security (COMMUNISM!) and an oppressive tax burden on our hardest (only) working americans. He hates america and wants the russians to take over europe, which is why we need people like adolph hitler in germany to stand up to the soviet threat.


-Truman is a communist. He hates america and wants to see all our successes in europe turn to dust. He wants to hand western europe over to the russians and won't do anything to stop them. He didn't even kick them out of germany. And he lost China to the communists too. That's 1/4th of the world's population now communist because Truman is secretly in league with them. And he fired MacArthur too! He wants us to lose in Korea. He fired MacArthur because he was winning the war and Truman is too much of a wimp to use the bomb on the chinese (even though he used it on the Japanese). Why does he hate America so?




- JFK was a communist. He hated America. He wanted to surrender to the Russians. He gave up on Cuba. He let the russians put missiles in there just to scare us all into thinking he was tough on the russians, when really it was a big ruse to give up our missiles in turkey. He gave up on East Germany and was willing to surrender western europe to them. Not to mention south east asia...this is why i regret my vote for JFK and joined the john birch society.




- LBJ was a communist. He signed the civil rights act and enacted medicare and the great society. He's a socialist who hates america. He wants to destroy the free market system and replace all our jobs with jobs for the blacks and mexicans. He lost the vietnam war and surrendered to the russians there. So what if he's from texas, he still hates America.




- Carter was a communist. He hates america and has nothing but disdain for it. He says we're in a malaise. He wants us there so we'll surrender europe to the communists. Because he is one. And he lost Iran too and the entire mideast with it. He's driving up interest rates and gas prices on purpose so he can push his radical environmentalist philosophy. A 55MPH speed limit? Ethanol?!?! COMMUNISM! He's purposely destroying our economy so he can institute a radical form of socialism.




- Clinton was a communist. His economic reform plan of 1993 is going to destroy our economy. Just you watch, the dollar will tank and the socialists will take over (communists too, if they're still around). He's a drug runner and murdered vince foster to cover it up. He killed Ron Brown too to cover it up. And look at hillary. She's a secret lesbian, don't you know, with a plan to impose homosexuality on our schools and push a radical leftist ideology. His healthcare plan is a secret attempt to impose socialism on us. He wants us to fail. He didn't kill Osama Bin Laden either, so 9/11 is all his fault even though we all know his attempts at taking out Bin Laden were a distraction from his impeachment hearings. He hates America."




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Posted by Stay Cool
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 2, 2009 at 9:39 am

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To !!!!etc.
Quit trolling.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Nov 2, 2009 at 9:42 am

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That's why I don't "do battle" seriously anymore with you. I'm having much more fun riling you up because your responses are off the wall. Please, continue to call me Marxist if it makes you feel more comfortable in the padded cell you built for yourself.


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Posted by origi po bo
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 2, 2009 at 9:48 am

multiple exclamation points,

You're awesome. Hilarious even! Thank you for the laugh and for reposting in its entirety one of my posts. Brilliant.

You say, "Can't you read...Read PB's post as he was not talking about Bush." Yes, in the post you copied I didn't mention Bush. But I did in a later post when I went on about how not even in the darkest days of the bush administration did you hear members of the left claim that bush hated america and wanted to see it destroyed. So I guess the question is, to paraphrase your eloquence: Can't you read or are you just sitting there spewing the same wingnut bs? The answer is sewing wingnut bs.

To clarify, which seems to be needed for hardluck cases as yourself. I was referring to all the rightwing rhetoric spewed forth by the wingnuts going back 70 years about every democratic president we've had. In other words, to put into perspective the wingnuts of today. Let's put side-by-side the claims made about every democratic president by the right wing on how they hate america and want to destroy next to the actual statistics that show the US economy performs better under democratic administrations. Once again, dealing with reality must be hard.


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Posted by jimf01
a resident of another community
on Nov 2, 2009 at 9:57 am

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I knew after reading the post that I wouldn't comment on it. What I am going to comment on is the comments. Whether or not the post contains some truths or not, those with an opposing viewpoint will simply pick out 1 statement (or distort something if they cannot find 1), and then it is a "nutbag rant" or "right-wing hate". Those who have decided they can no longer abide Obama do the same thing.
If we are going to be opposed, why not debate the actual issues affecting the country and how left and right politics changes things in this country.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Nov 2, 2009 at 10:36 am

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jimf01,

You are indeed wise.


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Posted by Chris
a resident of Civic Square
on Nov 2, 2009 at 12:21 pm

Good luck,

I have no dog in this fight but I can tell you Obama's programs are not working at all so we will just see but it does not look good at all. Did anyone hear about the current California budget forecast? I heard on CNN this morning that it is projected to be 26 billion dollars. I wonder if bankrupcy is being considered? Looks like the best bet to get out of those government rich retirement programs which are bankrupting us.


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Posted by Carolyn
a resident of Birdland
on Nov 2, 2009 at 7:57 pm

I do resent the hypocrisy of Barack & Michelle about family struggles for them to attend college. They both played the 'race card' to the max and their wishes were granted !!! Just like Cal today... Cal provides educations to athletes, rich, poor, and any monority from anywhere...legal or illegal. But a MIDDLE-class white male with high school 4.0 math major cannot get the assistance needed since Dad's furlough has made attendance pretty much impossible....UNfair to the student's work and goals. But it's tough sh** for white guys. And, to make it even harder Cal wants to discriminate MORE by charging MORE tuition for ENGINEER & Business majors...you know the white-guy classes that actually contribute to the GDP !! Since schools have that attitude, is it any wonder America doesn't have qualified MATH graduates...duh !!! African studies gets you a full free-ride! Both Chancellor & Pres at Cal are very vocal that their primary goal is DIVERSITY, VIOLATING prop 209...preferences are suppose to be ILLEGAL in CAL !! State should withhold ALL support until Cal obeys state law. Anyway, it would be nice to have just a little intellectual HONESTY from the Obamas and a big THANK YOU to American taxpayers. My grandsons won't be able to


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Posted by Stay Cool
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Nov 3, 2009 at 3:47 pm

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Carolyn,
WOW!!!!! Unbelievable rant! I mean literally, unbelievable! Several "white guy" (and "white girl") Cal grads that I know will be absolutely STUNNED by your observations! And your comments about "playing the race card" leave me speechless. It's too much.


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