Home sweet home Comments on Stories, posted by Editor, Pleasanton Weekly Online, on Oct 9, 2009 at 9:01 am
There is no denying that John Madden's resume is certainly extensive, very impressive and speaks volumes to the success he's achieved. But Madden's crowning glory is the section of his resume which usually gets one line, buried in the middle of a lengthy story, but is the most important in his mind -- loving husband, devoted father and doting grandfather.
Read the full story here Web Link posted Friday, October 9, 2009, 7:21 AM
Posted by Another Gatetree Resident, a resident of the Pleasanton Valley neighborhood, on Oct 10, 2009 at 4:45 am
Hey!! Comments by "Interesting" were removed by Pleasanton Weekly Online staff as being "innuendo, hearsay or specific accusatory information unsupported by facts."
Can't the post by "madden nation" be classified as the same thing? I don't know that Madden is the best, therefore it is "hearsay." "madden nation" accuses Madden of being the best. What if Madden doesn't want to be the best? Unless Madden says he's "the best," then that statement is unsupported by facts.
Come on Weekly -- Be balanced for a change. Editing posts is childish and your methods **appear** slanted to those you are partial to supporting.
Posted by Another Gatetree Resident, a resident of the Pleasanton Valley neighborhood, on Oct 10, 2009 at 11:41 am
Qwerty -- Please do not misunderstand me. I like John Madden. I think he's an amazing guy and he has provided me with years of laughter as I watched him rant on the sidelines as a coach and then as a commentator with humor mixed with true knowledge of the game of football.
My issue is with the Pleasanton Weekly Online staff what I view as censorship hidden behind the mask of "innuendo, hearsay or specific accusatory information unsupported by facts."
Posted by interesting, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Oct 10, 2009 at 11:59 am
If you think that saying the Madden's are slumlords, or that their large Pleasanton apartment complexes are poorly run and have major mold, go check this out for yourself. Go to Royal Gardens on Vinyard, walk around the exterior and you can SEE major delapitated and mold infested siding. Then go talk with any resident that has young kids at Santa Maria Apartments on Santa Rita and ask if kids and or toys are allowed outside!
Posted by interesting, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Oct 10, 2009 at 12:04 pm
It's NO differrent than saying that Raileys has flies, because Railey's has Flies!
The Madden's are PROUD of their senior complexes that are in GREAT condition and run professionally, however they HIDE the fact that they own over 200 apartment units here in pleasanton that ere very poorly managed and in very poor condition.
The roofs at Santa Rita needed to be re[laced 10 years ago and it rains inside units at times. The manager does NOT let kids play outside with any toys and has evicted many who have let their kids do this. That IS familial discrimination.
The Royal Gardens on Vineyard have mold the size of baseballs! The previous manager was extremely un professional. Go walok the outside of the buildings with a stick. You can poke right through the mold and rot almost anywhere!
Posted by Qwerty, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Oct 11, 2009 at 10:21 am
To: "Another Gatetree resident":
I'm not disageeing with you at all. I'm siding in with you because I've seen similar cases where comments were deleted or IP addresses banned for who knows what reason. (sometimes no reason given).
If it is the case that the Madden owned apartment complexes are in poor condition, then it may be the fault of the management company. If the owner is very busy and far removed from the business, then they might not be aware of the situation. Most of them trust the management company to do the right thing. Then only way they would know otherwise is to get involved themselves. There is a HUGE range in the business practices of some of the management companies in this area. Some really do try to make repairs and take care of problems. Others seem to do the minimum required to keep residents from complaining. Then there are a few where they don't listen to anyone and then place goes down the toilet.
Posted by interesting, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Oct 11, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Well to be "far removed from business ventures" when the business gross in excess of 250,000 a month, and the business houses over 350 men woman and children, and the owners live within 2 miles of these apartments, that unacceptable.
Also, when the business owners are constantly applauded for their more posh ventures, but hide their not so posh ventures, that's just not right.
More so, the Apartments on Vineyard, where I live are dilapidated!
The maintenance for the property mangers say that the Maddens wont put out the necessary funds to do the extensive repairs.
If the City were to really inspect the 100 or so units, I am sure the buildings (Royal Garden) apartments would be RED TAGGED! The value is in the property and I am sure the "owners" are well aware that the buildings are infested with rot and huge amounts of mold.
Posted by interesting, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Oct 11, 2009 at 6:51 pm
Mike Madden, being on the Board of the Hauss School of Real Estate UC Berkeley, would be hard pressed to explain this "far removed" from the business and or health and other hazards, and or the actions of management, at family owned major apartment complexes in Pleasanton.
Haas School: Real Estate Sep 25, 2009 ... Fisher Center for Real Estate and Urban Economics .... Mike Madden, President Red Bear Property Management. Richard C. Mallory, Partner, ...
groups.haas.berkeley.edu/realestate/Fisher/PAB/index.asp - Cached - Similar
Posted by Rita, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Oct 11, 2009 at 8:53 pm
Sure is a lot of class envy going on up above here. I doubt any of it is true. Madden is a class guy and if there were a problem he would deal with it correctly. I think most are just envious of what he has accomplished and what they have not.
Posted by Jerry, a resident of the Oak Hill neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 1:49 am
Mayor John Madden - Sounds good to me...
Also, I would think if someone is living in the alleged conditions as stated by the poster, a simple phone call to the proper city department would be appropriate. After all, PUSD recently closed a school due to mold...
Better yet - Talk to the Maddens. His sons can be found coaching the Foothill Freshman team almost every weekday afternoon at Foothill High School...
A wise person once told me, "We're responsible for managing our own health care, not someone else"...
Posted by Qwerty, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 10:57 am
I don't think jealousy has anything to do with the problems stated here as one post suggested. Busy people like the Madden's aren't going to have time to investigate every business interest on a daily basis, which is why they hire a mangement company to take care of the apartments. On the other hand, if the residents are complaining and the management company is telling them that "no money will be spent on such-and-such repair", then that is a travesty. If that really is happening then yes, the Madden's should be held accountable.
Far too often, the owner's assume that the management company is taking care of everything but that is not always the case. Theoretically the owners should be more involved but either they don't live in the area and cannot do so easily or they are just simply too busy.
If they residents feel their complaints have fallen on deaf ears then they should call the city to complain. That might prompt the owners to get ore involved, particularly if the problems are so bad as to sully their reputation.
Posted by interesting, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Go to Royal garden aparments on Vinyard. Enter on the Vinyard drive way. Walk down the first path on the left. LOOK at the severely rotten and moldy siding at the bottom on the first two sheds. Continue walking and looking around. Ask a few residents about water enering their apartments etc.
Go to Santa Maria Apartments on Santa Rita. Talk to tennants there about the manager, kids,, evictions etc. The tennants are miserable.
Posted by interesting, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 1:01 pm
One last comment, the owners are well aware of all of the above and more. They get a free ride because of their status in the community. The building departments in Pleasanton and Livermore are in their pockets as well.
Posted by interesting, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Can we assume that you are the representative or property manager for the Madden's?
If so, why don't YOU post your full name, business and contact information.
I have lived at Royal Gardens for 3 years! It has literally rained inside several apartments as the roofs are in a severe condition of neglect.
There has been major leaking around windows. They maintenance guys have been replacing siding for years. One can put their hand right through the rotten siding all over the place. The MOLD is extensive and the size of baseballs, as evidenced in both the sheds, as well as a lot of the area's where the siding has been replaced, but the MOLD not addressed. This has been brought up many times to management.
When that contractor did the siding around our slider, we asked about the mold and the guy said he was only contracted to replace some siding and a shed.
WE have 3 family friends who have been kicked out of Santa Maria for their kids playing! Residents are terrified of the on site manager.
I truely think tha if you are the property management company, that you and the Maddens are WELL aware of all this.
Posted by interesting, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Sam, I posted EXACTLY where the MOLD is and maitenance and property manager and OWNERS are all WELL aware!
So, who are you kidding here? Several residence are doing a class action suit for familial discrimination against Santa Maria and residents at Royal Gardens are going past City Of Pleasanton to the Health Department.
Posted by interesting, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 4:37 pm
"The only dry rot is in some sheds that will be replaced at Royal Gardens."
"Both properties have been well maintained and there is no mold."
If the ONLY dry rot is "in some sheds" that why is their dry rot all over the buildings, of which some siding had been SLOWLY addressed, BUT NOT the baseball sized hunks of MOLD in the walls, that's just covered up! Also, if these "few shed" are "going to be replaced" then why were NEW fences that abut the sheds erected over two years ago, but NONE of the sheds replaced? You can lean on the siding in many places all over the buildings and go right through, you know that!
"The Owners do Care"
How do you know this? Are they just short on funds. When mentioning all the primo properties in the press, they NEVER mention these 200 or more junkie apartments.
"The Management Company does take care of issues when they arise"
What "issues" and on what timeline?
"There isn't any mold in the apartments"
That's just a flat out lie! Go walk around and you can see the damage and mold with the naked eye, let alone inspecting more closely.
"Its not discriminating against families if your children are doing something dangerous and someone says something...They have to worry about their liability"
Playing with toys, or riding a bike outdoors, or rather that being against the rules, is against the law.
" upon every tenant moves out the apartments are stripped and repainted....New carpet, new bathroom, new cabinets.....everything"
New cabinets, new bathroom, new carpet, everything? Then why is that not the case when new neighbors move in?
This is unreal!! Don't worry, there are groups of residents at BOTH complexes speaking with Lawyers.
Posted by interesting, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 4:45 pm
"If you are genuinely concerned, just email me any problems and I'll be glad to meet with anyone at Royal Gardens or Santa Maria. Again neither I nor the new manager nor maintenance men have seen or been told of mold." "All properties which we manage have pride of ownership and very little differed maintenance."
Are YOU KIDDING? If Maddens are that far removed from the $250,000 thousand a moth rents, and YOUR Management Firm is that FAR Removed to NOT know whats going on at either of the 100 unit plus properties, that that is just plain not right.
Get out there, take a look, take along a professional, talk to the residents!
Posted by interesting, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 5:09 pm
Look, As I said, get involved with the buildings, the problems and the tennants. What I mentioned is NO secret and you and the owners know that.
I have NO personal problems with the owners or management. There are groups of current and previous renters from both properties that are in the process of seeking legal representation from what I hear. I am not involved with those groups. The "eviction" rate at Santa Maria is a tell tale sign from what I have been told.
I just find all the press about the owners and their primo real estate and businesses etc., ironic, considering their IS a slumlord component and mentality with the MANY apartments they own, and that they work at keeping under the radar. These are easy to get into and the rent is low for Pleasanton, so people are mostly afraid to complain.
Posted by interesting, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 5:13 pm
This thread only started yesterday and I doubt that any of the tennants are focused on this forum. YOU know where the rot and mold is. Some has been relaced slowly and a whole lot of bad wood, rot and mold remains.
As far as Santa Rita, I have never lived there but have family and friends that have. GO talk to the tennants. They are terrified of the manager over there! In fact, a family stayed with us after ther were evicted, because their child rode a scooter on the sidewalk.
Posted by interesting, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 5:22 pm
There are literally hundreds of places where the wood has rot and there is a lot of mold in the rot. I did specifically mention a place to start! I think you are much more concerned withy damge control, than you are with the damage!
There have been several contractors as well as the in house maitenance crew over the years replacing wood siding and trim.
When the siding around my sliding glass door was replaced, the huge amounts of mold were just left there. I saw this to be the norm as they replaced more siding.
Are you going to continue to deny the replacing of the siding over time as well as the mold? The damage is so bad, that the entire buildings would need to be remediated to solve the problem.
Perhaps its the MOLD that you masy be unaware of? Take a handfull out of most any she, thats where you can gain access easily. Look around all the windows, all the siding, all the trim and take a stick to poke through the rot.
Posted by Roger, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 6:02 pm
The managers at Santa Maria Apartments don't even have a son. And we should know because we are the on-site resident managers. At the Santa Maria Apartments the kids are playing outside right now with toys. In fact the last I saw them they had put down their light-sabers and were break dancing on a piece of cardboard. The kids play outside all summer, everyday after school and most weekends. The management and the parents here work hard together to make this a very safe place for children and families. Come see for yourself. Our strength here is that we all work together to make our homes safe and enjoyable for everyone. Our complex is very culturally diversified and all the residents here are friendly caring people.
The roofs do not leak. In the past we have had situations were the gutters have become clogged and have overflowed due to an early unexpected rain. That situations was handled immediately. In fact because of that situation we have avoided that problem by having the gutters cleaned earlier in the season. Even though that means possibly having to clean them twice in one season. All maintenance issues are dealt with in a very timely manner. And we are very family friendly here. We wont dignify all these baseless negative hateful comments above with a reply. All we can say is that in a situation like this you must consider the source. And there seems to be only one source. And I do take note that all these comments are anonymous. Also we have no knowledge of any eviction regarding a child riding a scooter. Our neighbors know they have an open line of communication with the management of this complex. Not only do we work hard to make people feel safe it would be interesting to know why any of our neighbors would be afraid of the management. As I have said give us a call and then come see for yourself.
Posted by interesting, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 9:13 pm
Just checked with two friends again tonight that were evicted for their kids playing and not following your 6 pages of rules. Their are a total of 6 families as I understand that are filing suit.
Apperantly you type out rules constantly and post on the doors.
One of these rules is how to open and close a cubbord door!
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Public information straight from the Megans Law web site. Apperently he used to be called "uncle Dave" by all the kids he was friendly with, until someone discovered he is a registered sex offender, and he has maintained a low profile since. Do you deny that? If so, the public registry is LYING!
Further, it appears that YOUR son in law moved into a different apartment he wanted close to the road, in which a family was evicted because their kids were riding bikes and scooters.
If you wish to deny that you have excessive rules and that you make it VERY hard on families with children, the truth will come out.
I would ask that anyone with any doubts, talk with some tennants. Also look for reviews of Santa R$ita Apartments.
Posted by interesting, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Wow, just looked at some more recent reviews for the Santa Maria Apartments. GREAT reviews and they read almost identical to your wording above! Nice work! In fact BETTER overall reviews than ANY other apartments in Pleasanton! Genius!
Hopefully the property management company already resolved some of the major issues with your dictator management style and illegal rules more recently?
Good for you, if that is the case, but the tennants haven't noticed yet!
Posted by Stacey, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Oct 12, 2009 at 11:01 pm Stacey is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
To Qwerty and Another Gatetree Resident way back up near the top of the thread,
The difference is that there's something called defamation. Saying "John Madden refuses to watch horse racing on closed circuit TV !!!!!", while hearsay, has no obvious malicious intent behind it. Neither does saying "Madden is the best".
Posted by Stacey, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Oct 13, 2009 at 8:22 am Stacey is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
You wrote some opinion about Madden and his family mixed in there with a statement of fact that the average reader here has no way to verify the truth of. If you think a truth defense will protect you, good luck.