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McNerney, We'll be Watching Whether You'll Vote to Continue Funding ACORN

Original post made by April, Amador Estates, on Sep 15, 2009

Mr. McNerney,

With ACORN very exposed on FoxNews these days (but you won't here this story on the mainstream media), your District 11 constituents will be watching whether you'll vote to continue the funding of this criminal enterprise when the vote comes to the House.

My guess is that Nancy Pelosi will be pushing Democrats hard to continue funding ACORN. Will you oppose her and "do the right thing" by voting to defund this organization whose legal counsel was once Obama?

We'll be watching for your vote.

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Posted by poster boy
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 15, 2009 at 10:44 pm

Rep McNerney,

Don't worry, the only constituents who'll be watching to see if you continue funding ACORN are the wingnuts who watch that fantasy show called faux news and won't be voting for you anyway, so just keep doing your thing. You know. Representing your constituents and their best interests. Much better than what your predecessor (Rep. Pombo) did who represented every greedy corporate interest you could think of.

Keep up the good work!

(side note to the orignal post and all other wingnut posters. You guys have got to get over this ACORN thing. It's silly. No one cares. It's only a big deal to the nuts who believe Americorps is a secret paramilitary army obama is building, blah blah blah. Please, for the love of god, go to more than one source for your news (beck, foxnews, hannity, worldnetdaily.com). 15 years ago you were probably ranting about the clintons killing vince foster and bill clinton running drugs through arkansas...now it's ACORN. Obama is a natural-born american citizen who received nearly 70 million votes. You'll have a chance in 3 years to vote him out if the american people so choose. Until then, he's the president, get over it, deal with it, do whatever you have to do, but respect the desires of those 70 million people who chose to follow the policies he promoted. Time to rejoin reality, already in progress...)


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Posted by Jerry
a resident of Oak Hill
on Sep 16, 2009 at 2:30 am

I can't believe someone would believe "it's silly, no one cares" and, apparently, no big deal when representatives from an organization that receives federal funding gives advice on how to beat the tax code, as well as how to set up a brothel for 13 to 15 year old children(girls). Please tell me this isn't true...

I would hope Democrat, Republician, Independent, or whom-ever would be concerned this is happening. If this isn't criminal, it should be...

This isn't some "Wingnut" scheme. It's all there on tape, word for word, for all to see...


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Posted by Poster boy
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 16, 2009 at 7:23 am

Jerry,
Sure, it's on tape so it must be true. I saw it on youtube, after all! I'll tell you what, i'll get one of my friends to put on a Mccain/Palin t-shirt and do something on tape saying sarah palin likes to rape kittens, then i'll post it on youtube and send the link to you as proof that sarah palin rapes kittens. It must be true, it's on youtube!

The point is you guys seem to think ACORN is on the verge of overthrowing our society. Name for me a single person that you know of, or a person who knows a person who knows a person who might in any way be possibly involved with ACORN. <tick, tick, tick> They're a small time nickel-and-dime advocacy group, but they sure seem to work well as the boogie-man for the glenn beck's of the world.

What's silly is that you think that Obama and the democrats are actually setting up an organization to give people advice on how to setup brothels across america for teenage girls. I mean, seriously. Do you honestly think Obama is trying to set himself up as Pimp-In-Chief? Time to return to reality...


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Posted by Bob
a resident of Foothill Farms
on Sep 16, 2009 at 8:12 am

Poster boy,

Hey now slow down there fella and get yourself in a program.


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Posted by Hank
a resident of Amador Estates
on Sep 16, 2009 at 8:27 am

Dear Poster Boy:
You say ACORN is a "small nickel and dime" advocacy group. Are you aware that ACORN may be receiving $8.5 BILLION (that is Billion with a "B") in funding?

That is a lot of nickels and dimes from taxpaying citizens.

ACORN = Obama
Obama = ACORN


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Posted by Janna
a resident of Dublin
on Sep 16, 2009 at 8:41 am

Faux News got punked! Those ladies were messing with the obviously poor acting abilities of those at Faux (what can you expect?)

The reason republicans don't like Acorn is because they empower poor minorities to get out and vote. The republicans know that poor minorities probably won't be voting republican. It's not that hard to understand. If Obama gets the apathetic involved, the GOP will be a vague memory. That's why they're trying to connect Obama and bring them down.


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Posted by Poster boy
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 16, 2009 at 8:54 am

Bob, these people seem to think ACORN is on the verge of taking over our country, and you want me to get in a program? oook...

Hank, since 1992 ACORN has received a total of 53 million dollars. That's barely 3 million per year over that time. That's about .00001% of the total budget. You claim they're about to receive 8.5 billion. Problem is that both houses of congress have cut off their current funding and had no intention of giving more, and you know it. Move on to your next paranoid fantasy, please...


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Posted by JimF
a resident of another community
on Sep 16, 2009 at 9:12 am

The immediate telltale sign of deranged,Kos reading lefties is attack the attacker. Aside from the jaw-dropping statement by PB above that "it's silly, no one cares" that ACORN personnel in 4 (and another coming today! tune into to hannity for the tape) different offices are now documented independently offering to assist with obtaining government funded housing for an illegal brothel, maintaining a child prostitution ring, and offering unsolicited tips on tax evasion.
To prove his point, he attacks the messenger.
Problem is PB, fox and their employees are only the mass medium of the images, the investigation was conducted and funded independently by two twenty somethings. PB, go check back with huffpo and Kos for some dirt on Hannah and James, you might find out that they were caught stealing lunch money from their high school.


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Posted by JimF
a resident of another community
on Sep 16, 2009 at 9:15 am

And yes, Rep McNerney, I am your constituent, and we ARE watching. Will you back an investigation and full forensic audit of ACORN and Project Vote?
Will you go along with your Senate colleagues to put ACORN funding on hold until such an investigation is completed?
We ARE watching.


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Posted by Poster boy
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 16, 2009 at 9:56 am

JimF,
The telltale sign of anyone suffering from hannity/beck/rush-derangement syndrome is the mere mention of the word ACORN. You take a nickle and dime, small time virtually ineffectual operation and try to blow it up into the second coming of the communist party, then try to attach it to Obama in the hopes it'll become his version of Whitewater. Keep trying. If you think with all the problems going on in the world that the fact a few rogue members of a hack organization that's been funded to the tune of barely 3 million per year for the past 17 years went out and were acting stupidly (with one of them blatantly playing your 20-something heroes as fools - sorry, despite her claims, she didn't in fact murder her husband) and think that that makes any difference whatsoever to the millions of people out there struggling to get by or that they even remotely care ("it's silly and no one cares"), then you've gotta get your head out of the hannity blogs and start dealing with reality. To prove the point, congress cut off funding of ACORN without batting an eye. *yawn* It's silly, doesn't make a bit of difference to people's everyday lives, and no one cares, except for those who can't get over the fact that obama received nearly 70 million votes and is our legitimate president.

And another note to Rep McNerney, whom I'm *sure* is reading this thread, ignore the paranoid rants of a constituent whose vote you never had in the first place. He may be watching you, but feel free to ignore him.


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Posted by mark
a resident of another community
on Sep 16, 2009 at 11:11 am

McNerney, why haven't you signed on to Ron Paul's bill HR 1207 to audit the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank?

Since he won't answer that, why don't you Poster Boy? You seem to have an answer for everything, tick tick tick.


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Posted by ACORN is nuts
a resident of Birdland
on Sep 16, 2009 at 11:17 am

Sorry Poster boy but ACORN is going down. Even Jon Stewart on the Daily Show has devoted time to this astounding revelation of corruption. Keep watching MSNBC if you want to have the company of lunatics who think this is no big deal. This story is not going to go away. Only 7 democrats in the Senate opposed pulling any funding from this group of criminals. You might want to consider counseling.


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Posted by poster boy
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 16, 2009 at 11:43 am

Not exactly sure where in this entire thread anyone got the idea I was defending ACORN. I could give two spits about ACORN. My point is that the wingnuts out there are trying to make a mountain out of molehile, expand it to be this grand leftwing conspiracy to open brothels for teenage prostitutes in every neighborhood, and then attach this to Obama is some sad attempt to discredit his presidency. If you can explain to me how an organization that received a total of 53 million dollars over 17 years constitute such a threat to our society, then i'll accept this as a big deal. Otherwise, it's just more noise being bounced around in the wingnut (beck, oreilly, hannity, rush, drudge) echo chamber.

As for the Ron Paul rant, I can't speak for McNerney on that, and that was quite a tangent to take us down. But if you feel it's so important to audit the federal reserve, then sure, have a field day. Maybe it'd be a good idea to not have ACORN handle the audit...deal?


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Posted by ACORN is nuts
a resident of Birdland
on Sep 16, 2009 at 12:24 pm

"Not exactly sure where in this entire thread anyone got the idea I was defending ACORN."

Maybe it was this comment: "You guys have got to get over this ACORN thing. It's silly. No one cares." Do you even understand the issue?

You aren't concerned that $53M in taxpayer money....and Billions more in the works, to an organization that is telling people how to cheat on their taxes isn't a big deal?


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Posted by JimF
a resident of another community
on Sep 16, 2009 at 12:32 pm

Work on those talking points PB: Us wingnuts aren't attaching Obama to ACORN, Obama attached himself to ACORN
"I've been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career. Even before I was an elected official, when I ran Project Vote voter registration drive in Illinois, ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it, and we appreciate your work."

Today White House spokesman Gibbs felt it necessary to distance Obama from ACORN, and the ACORN CEO is scrambling: "ordering a halt to any new intakes into ACORN's service programs until completion of an independent review."
So they (who are not part of your growing wingnut cabal) feel this "silly" issue is a problem.
The fact is that taxpayers need to watchdog an organization receiving any amount of tax $. When that organization has ties to our new President going way back, it raises an additional red flag: "Acorn, Obama and a team of Chicago attorneys won a 1995 suit forcing the state of Illinois to implement the federal "motor-voter" bill. Obama had a previous role as an Acorn "leadership trainer". WSJ today also reminded us that in August 2008, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reported that the Obama campaign paid more than $800,000 to an Acorn "offshoot" for "get out the vote" projects.
If this "nickle and dime, small time virtually ineffectual operation" who registered 1.3 million voters prior to the 2008 election is shown to be systemically corrupt and in fact a large criminal enterprise, it will make Watergate look like a game of tiddlywinks.


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Posted by April
a resident of Amador Estates
on Sep 16, 2009 at 12:48 pm

Good post, JimF!

And then there is the "small" matter of the July 23, 2009 Report entitled ...

"Is ACORN Intentionally Structured As a Criminal Enterprise?"

...produced by the BI-PARTISAN Committee on Oversight and Government Reform headed by Darrell Issa (R-CA).

Though I doubt Obama supporters like PosterBoy above will actually READ this report, let me give you an abbreviated answer to the question raised in the title.

The answer is YES...It IS intentionally structured as a criminal enterprise.

Here is a link to the report...

Web Link




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Posted by Bossk
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 16, 2009 at 4:04 pm

Poster Boy,

You mention the Clintons killed Vince Foster but you conveniently forget to mention how the Clintons killed Ron Brown and everyone else on that airplane.

I am not sure how this is in anyway relevent to this thread.


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Posted by Poster boy
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 16, 2009 at 5:23 pm

Bossk, Thanks for proving my point. Yes, the clintons had ron brown and several dozen other national and international diplomats killed on that plane. I totally forgot about that paranoid delusion too, thanks for the trip down memory lane, er fantasy land.

JimF, you prove my point as well. That you guys are grasping at straws trying to turn every possible little thing into the next whitewater or (delusions of the ultimate grandeur) the next watergate. "[ACORN] registered 1.3 million voters prior to the 2008 election is shown to be systemically corrupt and in fact a large criminal enterprise, it will make Watergate look like a game of tiddlywinks." Yes they registered 1.3 million voters...mostly minority and inner city voters...that must really grate your GOP nerves knowing all these brown people are going around exercising their civil rights...grrr...If you can make a claim that ACORN is structured like a criminal enterprise, then the same claim can be made for operation rescue or for that matter the southern baptist council or for that matter, *yikes*, the catholic church??? And I go back to where it started. If you can show me how something like this can be equated to the Nixon whitehouse attempting to place listening devices in the democratic party headquarters, getting caught, then ordering the CIA and the FBI to collude in covering it up for a period of 2 years, having Nixon's VP Spiro Agnew be forced to resign for tax evasion for not reporting the income from the bribes he received, and then finally resigning in the face of impeachment and conviction by the senate (this, btw, is what watergate was, since you seem to think ACORN is the next watergate), then good luck to you.

And for the record, Issa is the ranking member of the oversight committee, not its head, and the report you refer to was not issued in a "bipartisan" manner, it was a minority report issued by that committee's ranking member, not voted on or endorsed by the entire committee. In other words, the GOP is not in control of the house, therefore committee chairmanships fall to the majority party. The minority party lead is known as the "ranking member". Try to get at least the minimum amount of facts straight.


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Posted by JimF
a resident of another community
on Sep 16, 2009 at 6:37 pm

Oh man, this is becoming a real story, hurry, I need fallback talking points, OK mock Christians and inject race into the story with "brown people", heh heh that got em.
FAIL


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Posted by Stay Cool
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 16, 2009 at 7:00 pm

JimF,
Poster Boy makes some pretty compelling points, backed by supporting arguments, in his post. Your "fallback" talking points idea is pretty weak, given what you selected to comment on from the post. There is quite a bit more substance there than what you cherry-picked out.


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Posted by poster boy
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 16, 2009 at 7:50 pm

still can't explain why this ACORN story matters, not to mention it rising to the levels of a watergate. Maybe I can get the 1.6 million people who showed up at the tea bagger rally this weekend to support me on this. Oh yeah, that was all made up too. EPIC FAIL


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Posted by JimF
a resident of another community
on Sep 16, 2009 at 8:46 pm

I have listed a fraction of the scandal with ACORN, you can read much more in Issa report, if 1% of that report and the new information reported since then is true and proven, then it is a major scandal. All you have done PB is make straw men and knock them down. In post after post here, you twist everything into something different and then refute it.
The reason this thread was started is that there are major allegations which our mainstream media has failed to investigate, and our Congress is equally failing to do their job


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Posted by Bob
a resident of Foothill Farms
on Sep 16, 2009 at 8:57 pm

JimF,

I agree with you and will go a bit further. If Obama does not come out soon and banish them like he did reverend Wright then his presidency is over for all intents and purposes especially after the Van Jones thing. Obama was a lawyer for Acorn, trained them on how to be community organizers, paid them $800,000 out of his campaign funds to work for him, and when campaigning publicly stated that "if elected Acorn will have a seat at the table with me!". They are a very dangerous group and unless he is with them he better distance himself and soon.


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Posted by Stay Cool
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 16, 2009 at 9:07 pm

JimF,
Doing a simple Google search, I find no lack of information regarding the ACORN scandal in the "mainstream media." Additionally, on Monday the Senate voted 83 - 7 to stop granting federal housing funds to ACORN.


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Posted by Bob
a resident of Foothill Farms
on Sep 16, 2009 at 9:21 pm

Stay Cool or whoever you are going by these days,

Maybe nothing in the left wing media but attached is a link from CNN as they have been reporting on it everyday as has FOX. CNN and FOX have most of the viewing audience anyway. WSJ also did a piece on it.

Web Link


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Posted by Stay Cool
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 16, 2009 at 9:44 pm

Hey Paul, I mean Jen, I mean Bob,
Right, that's my point. It *is* being reported in the mainstream media; my post was in response to JimF's claim as follows:
"The reason this thread was started is that there are major allegations which our mainstream media has failed to investigate, and our Congress is equally failing to do their job."



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Posted by Bob
a resident of Foothill Farms
on Sep 16, 2009 at 9:51 pm

JimF,

Looks like Arnold is asking California to investigate Acorn as well.


Web Link


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Sep 16, 2009 at 10:09 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

JimF wrote: "The fact is that taxpayers need to watchdog an organization receiving any amount of tax $."

I hope we start watchdoging Monsanto, Halliburton, Blackwater, Bechtel, all non-profits, etc. I hope you get my drift. You know, like the agribusiness corporations making all those profits while taxpayers subsidize their water purchase from the State while the actual small family farmers these subsidies were intended to help get the short end of the stick (google for california water subsidy)!


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Posted by poster boy
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 17, 2009 at 12:09 am

And the EPIC FAIL gets more EPIC. Typical foxnews, called out by the target of their supposed sting, blatantly fails passing themselves off as pimp and prostitute, and an ACORN employee goes along with their scam saying the most outlandish things available like claiming she'd run a brothel herself in the past and she'd had her husband murdered. Punk'd. Typical gullible idiocy from the wingnutsphere. No wonder a majority of wingnuts continue to believe obama was born in Kenya and that the world is 6000 years old.

Web Link

I'm STILL waiting for someone to point out to me how 1) this makes any difference to the average american. how does this have any affect on my day-to-day life? As opposed to, oh, I don't know, healthcare reform? and 2) how this has anything to do with obama and the operation of his administration and for that matter poses any threat to him having to resign, as nixon did in watergate. If you want this to rise to the level of watergate, you better find a tape of obama giving orders to his aides to give orders to the leaders of ACORN to do whatever they can to make it easier for pimps to set up brothels for the teenage el salvadorians they're smuggling in. (Remember, nixon was caught on tape ordering his aides to coverup administration connections to the watergate breakin.) And if your response is that Obama would never be stupid enough to actually say that on tape, you're right....

Sure the Obama campaign gave 800k in GOTV programs to ACORN. I'm not sure if you noticed, but Obama raised and spent over 250 million on his campaign over 18 months. 800k is about, oh, .5% of that. ACORN registered 1.3 million voters with that money. Of that you can't guarantee that every single person actually voted, and of that you can't guarantee that every person who voted voted for obama. Any of those voter registration forms that were fraudulent were later thrown out and those people never could've voted anyway, so get over that meme. And minus that, obama still won the election by margins far and above what ACORN could've delivered, so any attempt to claim voter fraud by ACORN delivered the election to Obama is yet another FAIL. After 8 years of Bush's "faith-based initiative" that became essentially Karl Rove's slush fund for funneling campaign funds to right wing religious groups to push GOP candidates, spare me the gnashing of teeth over a liberal group receiving federal funds not being non-partisan.

So you guys trumpet a supposed sting of a woman supposedly giving advice to a young pimp and prostitute on how to use federal funds to setup a brothel without even clue-ing into the fact that SHE WAS MESSING WITH YOU. So in 7 - 10 days when this supposed ACORN scandal fades away and is replaced by some other wingnut delusion (can we go back to Obama being a secret Muslim...that was fun!), I'll be here to refute that nutiness as well.


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Posted by April
a resident of Amador Estates
on Sep 17, 2009 at 11:49 am

Since I originated this thread, I wanted to circle back to readers. I am a staunch conservative and have been quite critical of McNerney for his 95% democrat party line voting record...not representing any conservatives in his district.

However on this particular subject of whether to continue funding ACORN, I wanted to thank Mr. McNerney for doing the right thing by voting against the continued funding of this organization. His vote was cast today.

On the other hand, Pete Stark...our far left representative voted, not surprisingly, to continue funding ACORN.

There were a total of 75 congresspeople voting to continue funding ACORN...and ALL 75 were Democrats...(again not surprisingly). Pathetic...but I wanted to say thank you to those Democrats who voted to stop the ACORN funding.




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Posted by JimF
a resident of another community
on Sep 17, 2009 at 11:53 am

PB, cannot believe it took you that many posts to get to Bush and Rove, you forgot to get Cheney in there, you really need to brush up on your talking points.
Oh, I don't know, when you have been to numerous ACORN housing offices in different cities, and the personnel there offer to not only assist you in setting up a brothel and import underage illegals for the sex trade, one MIGHT start thinking that they wouldn't put ANYTHING past these people, and that there is in fact systemic corruption withing this organization.
But, shoot, hey, it's silly, no one cares about victimizing children. No one gives a hoot about publicly funded organizations offering advice on evading taxes! Hey, I am feeling my own moral code melting away. I think I will go down to ACORN, so I can pay for sex with 13 year olds and avoid paying taxes. It's all good!!


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Posted by Stay Cool
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 17, 2009 at 12:04 pm

Here is an interesting perspective on the ACORN situation:
Web Link


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Posted by JimF
a resident of another community
on Sep 17, 2009 at 12:18 pm

At least 20 states are now investigating fraud and potential voting regularities by the taxpayer-backed group. California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger announced a state probe of ACORN late Wednesday.
"Any group needs to have scrutiny that is applied to it," Pelosi said at her weekly briefing with Capitol Hill reporters. "It is totally unacceptable and inexcusable in my view. Hundreds of people have embarrassed ACORN. We have to have our own investigation. It's up to the (House) Appropriations Committee to scrutinize them."
Remember this day, Arnold, Nancy, Jerry and JimF agree on something. Only difference is I am actually outraged and our politicians are merely playing along, making a good show of calling for an investigation.
I am fairly certain that someone in Nancy's office communicated with someone in Bertha's office to let ACORN know where this investigation will lead.
Just to comment back to Stacey, I do not have blinders on when looking at ACORN and I agree with you, I hope we get some politicians some day who will actually root out corruption in all places. As I have commented in other forums, one good step toward that will be to vote out all current incumbents, Republican and Democrat. They are completely dysfunctional at this point.


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Posted by Bob
a resident of Foothill Farms
on Sep 17, 2009 at 12:37 pm

JimF, Julie, etc.,

In addition to voting out all incumbents what are the thoughts on establishing term limits? Seems to me that 2 terms should be enough.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Sep 17, 2009 at 1:42 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

I have mixed feelings on term limits because I'm concerned about the loss of experience and the problem of legislator rubber-stamping of lobbyist-written law getting worse. The goal is to find a way for representatives to reconnect with the realities lived by private citizens. The Founding Fathers' idea was that a summer recess would do that trick. I think it hasn't worked well. Term limits also don't reach that goal because in a lot of cases the "freshmen" are already politicians from another level of government. Perhaps our legislators need to be given longer recesses from government, like rules that disallow a two term representative or senator from running again for the next term, but they can run again later after a break.


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Posted by Bob
a resident of Foothill Farms
on Sep 17, 2009 at 7:39 pm

I would be for term limits because they are just in there to long and also they are to close to lobbyists and just look at their net worth before and after they leave office.


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