How to stop speeders in residential areas? Around Town, posted by james, a resident of the Pleasanton Meadows neighborhood, on Sep 1, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Does anyone know who I can contact at the Pleasanton PD about this issue? I live on Churchill Drive in Pleasanton Meadows, and the speeders have become an epidemic. Fairlands is the main street one block over, but Fairlands is narrow and Churchill is very wide which gives some drivers the impression they can go faster. Some are as much as 15 to 20 mph over the limit.
the speeders vary in age from young people driving pickups and jeeps to older people driving SUV's and beamers. but regardless of age or vehicle, all of the speeders are putting the neighborhood residents at risk. we have a lot of children playing, a lot of elderly walking, and a lot of pets.
It's only a matter of time before tragedy strikies and it would be nice to try and avoid that with maybe a police crackdown on the speeders. I see other neighbors yelling at speeders which I think is not the wisest thing to do in this age of road rage.
Posted by Tango, a resident of the Vineyard Avenue neighborhood, on Sep 1, 2009 at 8:27 pm
We have the same problem on Bernal between Kottenger and Palomino. We also have a big problen on Touriga. They are both raceways. Another problem is the bike lane comming off Bernal going towards Livermore on Vineyard. At one point it is very wide and people think it is another lane even thoygh there is a solid line there. How do I get the city to paint another bike lane symble in the wide area so I don't have people comming up on my right just before I am going to turn right. And yes I am signaling for a right turn for what ever good that does me. I have almost been hit twice, and have had people honk at me when it is my right of way.
Posted by Grace, a resident of the Highland Oaks neighborhood, on Sep 1, 2009 at 10:22 pm
I think that if you and a few of your neighbors, or your Neighborhood Watch representatives contact the Pleasanton Police Dept. and express your concerns for the safety of the children and residents of your neighborhood, telling them that it's become a speedway, they might (should?!) temporarily install one of the portable devices with the digital speed read-out. On top of that, either the PD or the traffic engineer (I believe) can have the sensor cables installed so that the actual speed can be measured and stored for analysis.
It doesn't hurt to ask, although I don't know for sure that my suggestions are the correct path. Seems logical, though.
Posted by Karen, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Sep 2, 2009 at 8:22 am
Tango - You are so right!! We used to live right there on Palomino/Bernal and the speeders were out of control!!! I used to be so happy when I would see Pleasanton P.D. at the bottom of the hill in the parking lot pulling folks over. I wish they'd put a stop sign at Palomino. It would force people to come down that hill slower.
Why can't people just slow down!! It is so frustrating. I love the Pleasanton traffic officers!! You guys rock!! Unfortunately, there are just not enough to slow everyone down.
Posted by aargh, a resident of the Mohr Park neighborhood, on Sep 2, 2009 at 8:29 am
Careful what you wish for. People on Kamp Dr complained about speeders so the city put in two stupid traffic circles (oops, traffic calming circles they called them). Since we aren't as rich as the Ruby Hill people, we can't get ours removed, so we are stuck with them. The good news is that they were planning to put FOUR circles on the half mile long street but never got around to the other two.
Posted by Alex, a resident of the Happy Valley neighborhood, on Sep 2, 2009 at 8:44 am
We have had this problem before as well. My wife went and bought one of those brite yellow "Slow Children at Play" signs from Toys r us and put it in the middle of the road. Then when cars were speeding down the street they would slow down for the sign, right before they got to the sign she would roll a ball out in the street. Every car would come to a complete stop and most of the time the drivers face had some priceless look on it. You could just tell their heart stopped. Funny as hell. Best part was at the time we had no kids. Worked like a charm.
Posted by Tim, a resident of the Ponderosa neighborhood, on Sep 2, 2009 at 9:03 am
You should understand that when going down the hill, the gravitation pull will speed up your car - even when your foot is off the gas padel. Cops at the bottom of the hill catching speeders this way is just dirty and sneaky.
To Alex, your solution of putting out the fake children at play sign is as bad as playing a dirty prank on drivers. What if someone swurf and hit the curb? Your taste is just as bad as the same numerous post above.
Posted by Trevor Tooze, a resident of Livermore, on Sep 2, 2009 at 9:16 am
In response to aargh, I say what is wrong with traffic roundabouts(Circles), they do slow the traffic down. Sedona, Arizona are changing to traffic roundabouts to replace many traffic lights, and 4 way stop signs. The people there love them. What is more frustrating than coming to a stop at 4 way stops, when there is no traffic on the road, at least with a roundabout, you only need to slow down to 15mph. Please learn how to use them properly.
Posted by Doc Feel Good, a resident of the Val Vista neighborhood, on Sep 2, 2009 at 9:18 am
Those of us who do have kids, dont consider the signs a dirty trick. And as a fellow driver, I watch my speed up and down hills, its called driving. If you get caught by an officer because you were not watching your speed, who is to say you would have been watching for kids at play? If you are not PAYING ATTENTION you SHOULDNT BE DRIVING.
Posted by Alex, a resident of the Happy Valley neighborhood, on Sep 2, 2009 at 9:20 am
Spoken like a true speeder. The sign was not fake and there are kids in the neighborhood playing. Just not mine. If someone sees the sign and is still going so fast that they "Swurf" and hit a curb then they get what they deserve. The point of the sign is to slow them down.
And by the way with your "Gravity theory" That's what a brake pedal is for. Using a brake pedal slows the car down so you can still do the speed limit. Try it some day.
Posted by Tim, a resident of the Ponderosa neighborhood, on Sep 2, 2009 at 9:55 am
To Alex, the creepy person - don't try to deny the pranks you are pulling on drivers. Let me remind you of your words above:
"...right before they got to the sign she would roll a ball out in the street... drivers face had some priceless look on it. You could just tell their heart stopped. Funny as hell. Best part was at the time we had no kids."
Need I say more? And I'll learn to use the brake pedal when you learn how to post on this site.
Posted by Jerry, a resident of the Oak Hill neighborhood, on Sep 2, 2009 at 10:45 am
There could be legal consequences when intentionally tossing an object into the street in front of a moving vehicle...
If the vehicle had slowed to an appropriate speed, what was the purpose of the "rolled ball"...
That "priceless look" could have been horror at the thought of a child running out in front of them. I would be careful using this practice, you just might roll the ball in front of someone that didn't appreciate it as much as the "roller"...
Everyone should realize kids reside in residential areas and adjust their speed to fit the occassion. This should also applies to areas in and around schools. There shouldn't be a need for a sign in the street or a rolling ball...
Posted by Speed no more, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Sep 2, 2009 at 12:06 pm
Linda... i don't think you would agree with Tim if a member of your family was killed by someone speeding donw a hill or anywhere...I would actually like to shake Alex's hand maybe if he did this in my cousins neighborhood he would still be alive!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by tyu, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Sep 2, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Churchill is a road most only used by residents of that area and the pool users. TALK to your neighbors or make a flyer and shove it in their mailbox. Theses speeders aren't random people from out of town like speeders on say Stanley or Bernal. These are you inconsiderate nebs.
Posted by Circles My Rear, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Sep 2, 2009 at 12:18 pm
Come on! Traffic circles or roundabouts are a huge pain in the rear. A classic example are the traffic cirlces on Valley between Bernal and Sunol Blvd. They were inentionally put there to slow down traffic. Better to have designed that whole area so include a 4-lane street to move traffic, and don't put schools next to thoroughfares (like they did there or the middle school on Las Positas.
Hopefull, the City Council got the message that if any more trafic circles go in, Council members approving them are going to get ousted.
On of the biggest problems concerning vehicle speed is that Pleasanton has done a poor job of providing roads that are designed to move traffic expeditiously. Therefore, this traffic winds up on neighborhood streets. Expending resources on police, traffic circles and speed bumps is rediculous, and they are a serious irritant to people that have to get somewhere in a reasonable amount of time. Pleasanton needs to put some effort into building streets to move traffic. BTW, Livermore and Dublin are worse in this regard than Pleasanton.
Posted by Jerry, a resident of the Oak Hill neighborhood, on Sep 2, 2009 at 12:21 pm
If motorist understood this is a residential street and "people adjusted their speed to fit the occassion" there shouldn't be a need for a sign in the street. But is sounds as if that could be wishful thinking...
Posted by Speedy Old Far*, a resident of the Kottinger Ranch neighborhood, on Sep 2, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Circles My Rear,
You are so right. Curse traffic circles! It seems we now have traffic-circle loons popping up again, when we have our hands full dealing with left-wing loons. My guess is most of the traffic-circle loons are also left-wing loons. Oklahoma or Texas are looking better all the time.
Posted by Bright idea!!!!, a resident of Dublin, on Sep 2, 2009 at 12:46 pm
I don't have speeder problems where I live in Dublin but I like to give my 2 cents. Instead of life-size cardboard cut out of kids, how about a life-size cardboard cut out of a motorcycle cop.
Circles My Rear,
I don't see the links between traffic circles and left wing right wing. America is a free country. Go ahead, move to Texas and Oklahoma if you like.
Personally I don't like the traffic circles. I was in Paris a few months ago and there are a lot of these things. I can tell you guys things can be quite confusing and if the traffic is a bit heavy, you just stop there until it's clear to go. It's not like STOP signs where you have your turn.
Posted by bobart, a resident of the Danbury Park neighborhood, on Sep 2, 2009 at 1:36 pm
We have a "your speed limit" sign that does not an any way stop or slow some cars from speeding. Most of them are cutting through to miss the light at Santa Rita and Valley. Although some live here. It is on the same street as the park...quite scary with all the activity. I have seen some speeds posted at 43 mph in a 25 mph zone. There is a stop sign at Morganfield and Kolln that gets missed more than cars stop and yes it is all ages. There is no respect for the damages even a slow car go do. Add texting, calling and many other distracts and that leads to trouble.
Posted by D W, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Sep 2, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Could we have all of Pleasanton's Neighborhood Watch representatives get together and meet with the Chief and his PD lieutenants? Maybe we need a speeding equivalent to the terrifying Text Crash video made in London weeks ago.
The 'need for speed' has been way out of hand for at least 3 generations, if not 4. And it's been more too much human nature than any car song or movie could influence.
Posted by Doc Feel Good, a resident of the Val Vista neighborhood, on Sep 3, 2009 at 7:50 am
To all the 'Speeders, or peeps in a hurry'
Speed if u want, pay your fines, just dont do it around kids and homes. If you want to take your life in your own hands thats one thing, some other persons life is another. Residential streets dont = Sears Point/Baylands (for the older crowd)
Posted by Steen, a resident of another community, on Sep 4, 2009 at 12:11 pm
Before we spend money on any traffic calming measure, let's do the research first. There is a reason why cities across the country are ripping out speed bumps and replacing them with other options. There are quite a bit of research done on the topic. www.informationdisplay.com has a collection of links to over a dozen government studies on traffic calming. Many show that radar speed signs - those speedcheck displays that tell passing motorists their actual speed - are highly effective around school zones and neighborhood streets. And unlike speed bumps, they don't increase traffic noise, impede emergency vehicles or simply divert traffic to quieter streets. Please - let's do the research first.
Posted by tyu, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Sep 6, 2009 at 6:06 pm
People have onboard speed telling machines called speedometers so I really don't know whay an exterior sign telling a car's speed is neccesary or useful. Maybe they work, I don't know. If traffic circles work I have no idea. I do know about speed bumps or humps though because I once lived with one in front of my house. They incourage people to hit their brakes, and sometimes the brakes are very loud and squeeky, they hit the bump and small drops of oil fall off causing an oil stain and slippery section invariably. The cars then hit the gas on the other side of the bump causing more noise. It only slows them down for about 20 feet and has the above mentioned problems so I think they are useless frfom my experience.
Posted by Ryan, a resident of the Mohr Park neighborhood, on Sep 22, 2009 at 3:21 pm
for the guy who thought it was funny to through that ball in front of the cars, if i were you i would not do this if i was that driver i would have put you in the hospital without question or hesitation!!
Posted by ryan, a resident of the Mohr Park neighborhood, on Sep 22, 2009 at 3:24 pm
i was driving near the rear of the fairgrounds last week about 830 in the morning and there were some youg children riding there bikes in the road and when i drove by they yelled slow down, i was driving the speed limit, to the parents that have taught there parents to do this this is not a good idea!!!!!!!!!!!