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Original post made by Save the disappointment, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on Aug 29, 2009

On another thread, someone posting as Disappointed Parent, expressed disappointment in this community for not passing the parcel tax, not raising enough funds during the summer fundraising campaign to reinstate all positions/programs cut this year, and made negative generalizations about Pleasanton residents who carry Coach purses and wear designer label clothes.

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Posted by Patriot
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 29, 2009 at 5:20 pm

We can now count this person as on the side of the terrorists. Stop living in fear and support the parcel tax. Opposing the parcel tax is exactly what the terrorists want. They want to destroy our schools by making us fearful that we will lose our money. They want people to remain renters to lower the net worth of Americans and make them lose faith in the system. Stop your shameful and emotion based posts. You should use reason instead of emotion.


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Posted by Save the disappointment
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 29, 2009 at 5:50 pm

(Disrespectful statements removed by Pleasanton Weekly staff)
There is no parcel tax measure to support or not support.


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Posted by Patriot
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 29, 2009 at 6:18 pm

"There is no parcel tax measure to support or not support."

With an attitude like that, you're not going to get anywhere. Of course there is a parcel tax. It is not yet on a ballot, but it is being put together even now as we chat so enjoyably.


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Posted by Patriot
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 29, 2009 at 6:20 pm

To "Save..."

What you need is a plan. First, get the money together for a down payment. Make sure you know your credit score and correct any problems. Then, fire your landlord and take that step.


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Posted by Save the disappointment
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 29, 2009 at 6:32 pm

@ "Cholo"
I don't have faith in the system that is PUSD administration. They bungled the parcel tax measure.
The people who don't have faith in the "system" are the same ones who successfully fought for integration, fair employment practices and many of the rights people take for granted today.
But if you want to continue to support the "system" that wastes the taxpayers' money, your choice. Go to Sacramento where you will find plenty of people who think like you.

Your posts have often been removed and remind me of something I once read about vulgarity being the province of those with small minds.
You're no cholo, but keep believing that you're fooling people into thinking you are or that you're some kind of rebel. It's all you have, isn't it?



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Posted by PToWN94566
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 29, 2009 at 7:43 pm

PToWN94566 is a registered user.

Patriot, don't you think you're going a bit over the line by calling people who voted no on G terrorists?

The other thread you started is quite shocking. You first discuss 9/11 then somehow find a way to compare No on G people as the people who flew planes into the towers. I voted no on G as did my parents who have been Pleasanton residents for over 38 years- none of us have any liking to get in a plane and fly it into a building. That is a bit much. If you want people to work together, it's a smart idea to not compare them to extremists. "Save the Disappointment" does have a point: if this parcel tax, that did not pass, was so important, why did they wait to have a special election? This has all been discussed before, but the plain truth is that it did waste money. Also, more people will agree to a future parcel tax if there are stronger conditions.


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Posted by Save the disappointment
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 29, 2009 at 11:07 pm

PtoWN94566 thanks for getting the point.
I can only imagine how frightening the world must be for you "Patriot." You could be living next door to someone who did not vote Yes on G - someone you consider a terrorist. What next? Anyone who does not share your religious beliefs? Your skin color? Your sexual orientation?
As for your tips on how to buy a house, thanks, but not necessary. Did things the old fashioned way - saved money, bought a house, paid it off long ago. But interesting how you enjoy trying to feel superior, isn't it?
Stand by my original opinion about your mental state which the PW staff deleted so will replace it with an equally non-vulgar statement. You sound like you have some bats loose in your belfry.
Now it will be interesting to see if the PW thinks that comment is disrespectful, but has no problem with Patriot referring to anyone who voted No on G as a terrorist.



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Posted by Patriot
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 30, 2009 at 9:53 am

I did not say that anyone who voted no on Measure G was a terrorist. I said voting yes on a parcel tax is a way to say no to the terrorists.


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Posted by Mary
a resident of Country Fair
on Aug 30, 2009 at 10:24 am

Patroit,

the parcel tax hasnothing to do with terrorism so do not try and mix the two up. what is going on in politics is terrorism


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Posted by Patriot
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 30, 2009 at 12:06 pm

Mary,

I have to disagree with you that a parcel tax has nothing to do with terrorism. It was the stated goal of the terrorist to change our behavior. To destroy our economy and our education system by making us fearful. They want us to be afraid. They want to divide us. By saying yes to our schools by giving, volunteering, or supporting a parcel tax we are saying yes to the community and no to terrorists.

I have read what some of these people say and they love it when they can turn Americans against each other. Now is the time to say no to them. If you have suggestions for an improved parcel tax, please suggest them. Let's work together on it. It saddens me to see some of the people on these blogs posting hateful and counterproductive posts.


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Posted by Dark Corners of Town
a resident of Country Fair
on Aug 30, 2009 at 12:07 pm

Patriot - In your original thread you said "Sadly, a small number of Pleasantonians gave in to the terrorists. Soon we will have another chance to stand up and be counted among those who believe in freedom. Vote yes and say you believe in freedom and America."

Please clarify what you think Voting No on G meant? Thanks.


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Posted by Patriot
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 30, 2009 at 5:38 pm

Voting No on G meant you voted no on G.


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Posted by PToWN94566
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 30, 2009 at 6:08 pm

PToWN94566 is a registered user.

Patriot you also stated "Opposing the parcel tax is exactly what the terrorists want."

To any person that analyzes your words, people who vote no on G oppose the parcel tax. Therefore, if we oppose the parcel tax, we are giving into the terrorists and simply giving them what they want; thus making people who voted no on G terrorists, or people that associate with terrorists. Is it that hard to see how words create a direct meaning even though you also state "I did not say that anyone who voted no on Measure G was a terrorist"? You words are simple A+B=C statements

As I already stated, pulling terrorists from 9/11 into a discussion of a parcel tax is uncalled for.


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Posted by Patriot
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 30, 2009 at 8:50 pm

People who voted no on measure G probably had many motivations. I don't think some people realized the consequences of their vote. I do think the people who want to harm America like to see Americans turn against each other, as they did on have on this forum. They enjoy seeing people turn against American institutions. They want to see people afraid to spend their money. They want to see people afraid to invest. That is the way they intend to destroy this country and her economic and educational system.

Let's pull together as a community and work this one through. We can do it.


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Posted by Homeowner
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 31, 2009 at 7:44 am

Patriot - have you ever heard of the term "non sequitur"...


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Posted by PTNative
a resident of Del Prado
on Aug 31, 2009 at 9:08 am

Patriot is just a troll, ignore him/her


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Posted by Patriot
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 31, 2009 at 9:16 am

term "non sequitur"...

It means "does not follow".

I don't see what you mean by that. I'm saying that by continuing to think positively, by continuing to shop, and by supporting local education measures, we are saying no to the terrorists. We are saying no to the people who want to harm America. Don't believe for one second that they are not out there, waiting for an opportunity. The question is not "if", but "when".


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Posted by Me
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 31, 2009 at 9:18 am

PTNative (me too)
Good call on the troll. Fortunately, most people are intelligent enough to see through this high school student’s facade. Patriot don't you have a class to be in (or did you drop out).


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Posted by Patriot
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 31, 2009 at 12:16 pm

Can we please keep this discussion civil? I feel strongly that we need to strengthen and support are community. Let's remember who that if we don't continue to shop, to buy houses, to support local school measures, we weaken our community. Our economy cannot be strong if we all pull back on stop spending. Our schools are wonderful. We should continue to support them.

The attacks on September 11 were meant to frighten us, and to weaken our economy. Let's not let them succeed.


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Posted by Original Joe
a resident of Downtown
on Aug 31, 2009 at 1:41 pm

"Patriot" wants to "keep this discussion civil" after calling people "terrorists"? Convulted logic at it finest.


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Posted by Patriot
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 31, 2009 at 6:29 pm

I never accused people on this forum of being terrorists. I only pointed out that the consequences of our actions may be exactly what the terrorists want.


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Posted by Wow...
a resident of Rosewood
on Aug 31, 2009 at 8:21 pm

We can now count this person as on the side of the terrorists.

This is a CUT AND PASTE from your post. You are calling citizens who don't think like you terrorists... and Patriot, I must underscore our History 101 lesson: The very definition of being an American is majority rule. I actually voted FOR the parcel tax --- I was a sucker. All I saw was "help the children" and I voted YES.

Two things about my VOTE: I wish I had done a little more homework before I voted because I would have voted NO. Secondly, and holy freaking cow, I’m embarrassed to have voted in line with someone who would refer to their FELLOW CITIZENS exercising their PATRIOTIC right to vote as terrorists. You just can’t throw that word around so lightly and expect to be taken seriously. That said, and I believe this to my core, "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.”

You should do the same. It’s what true Patriots do.


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Posted by Patriot
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 31, 2009 at 10:30 pm

I should have said something about unknowingly counted on the side of terrorists, which I believe to be the case. I'm sorry if that was interpreted the wrong way.


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Posted by Making Sacrifices
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 1, 2009 at 9:25 pm

Maybe when we are no longer paying for administration cell phone bills and car allowances, the tax will pass. But as long as there are so many of us taking cuts in our pay and giving up benefits,(and not even hoping for a raise) and not seeing rational cost cutting measures in the district, there is not a chance I am handing over one more cent to the district to spend frivolously.


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Posted by To "Making Sacrifices"
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 1, 2009 at 10:42 pm

Do you really think school administrators should pay their own cell phone bills for work related calls? Where have you ever worked that required you to use a cell phone but didn't pay for it? I've never heard of that?

I certainly hope PUSD continues to pay for cell phones for administrators. Heck, if they need to cell phones to get their job done, I'd pay for that too. Should we stop paying for office supplies? What about pens, pencils, or pads of paper? What could possible be "rational" about not paying for cell phones for official business?

What do you mean by "frivolously"? How is paying for cell phone use frivolous?


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Posted by To "Save"
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 1, 2009 at 10:48 pm

"the School District must tighten its belt and eliminate excess spending."

Show me some actual numbers or some "excess spending", and tell me how much it would save.

It is easy to say that we'll just "cut the waste", but it is a lot harder to actually do.


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Posted by Yes on the parcel tax
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 1, 2009 at 10:52 pm

Voting no on a parcel tax does nothing to "cut excesses", it only hurts our children.

Let's work together to pass the parcel tax. The terrorists want to tear our community apart. We should show them that we will not let them. Let's support our schools and support our community.


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Posted by Dark Corners of Town
a resident of Country Fair
on Sep 2, 2009 at 12:16 am

To 'Yes on the parcel tax' -
Who are the terrorists that want to tear Pleasanton apart?


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Posted by To "Dark Corners"
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 2, 2009 at 9:07 am

The ones who attacked us on 9/11/01. The question is not if, the question is when. They want to make us afraid. They want to turn us against each other. They want us to hoard our money and not buy, and destroy our economy. We must be increasingly on the alert.


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Posted by Bob
a resident of Country Fair
on Sep 2, 2009 at 9:24 am

Everyone seems so stuck on this parcel tax which lost at a time when the economy was better and I believe will really go down in flames now that the economy has really gone down hill. Has anyone considered a surcharge for service utilization? Basically, it means the individuals using the service pay a significantly larger portion than those who do not and also the more children you have using the service the more you pay?


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Posted by To Bob
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 2, 2009 at 12:10 pm

I don't know what the legal consequences of your suggestion would be, but since free public schools have been required by the California constitution for more than 150 years, I think it would probably take a change to the constitution.

A new parcel tax could do much better than measure G. Not all parcel taxes are equal.


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Posted by Bob
a resident of Country Fair
on Sep 2, 2009 at 12:43 pm

Currently educated is only funded by public money and that public money comes from taxes. Not all in this state pay taxes so that should be clarified. People who have children utilizing the program should pay more than people not using the program..........just common sense.


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Posted by To Bob
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Sep 2, 2009 at 1:44 pm

I think it is common sense for all taxpayers to support public education. It is vital to functioning democracy to have an educated electorate. We are all receiving the benefit of the service. That's why its been that way for well over a century.


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