Posted by Debra, a resident of the Foothill Knolls neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 3:03 pm
It just shows to prove that there are always people that think that they are superior to others.
Hate crimes are still happening. We heard about other such events as early as last few years at Stoneridge Mall.
Some of these people cannot face up to the fact that all races that are here belong here, everyone's ancestors came from other countries, and they belong here just as much as they do. I have yet to figure out where they learn such hatred? Criminals!!
Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore, on Aug 28, 2009 at 4:10 pm
In my opinion, this is just the beginning of violence against people of color. If you listen closely to many FOX NEWS commentators, you may have noticed that they couch their hostility for people from different cultures by complaining about how the shade of the US is changing and they support violence against others who are undesirably different.
As a Jew, I am greatly disappointed in Mr. Goldstein if he is in fact a Jew. It is against Torah to engage in such violence against innocent people. If I can determine that he in fact Jewish, I will notify as many Jewish newpapers and Blogs about his cowardly behavior, in the US and in Israel.
He is rubbish and must now be held accountable for his crimes. This is a HATE crime.
Posted by Me Too, a resident of the Canyon Creek neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Why do people have to do this????
My only problem is, why do we have designations of "hate crime"? Is it really that much worse if some white people beat a black taxi driver or if they beat a white taxi driver? Do you think the white taxi driver or his/her family feel any better knowing it wasn't a "hate" crime?
Yes, I understand that some crimes are provoked by color, religion, etc, but does that really make the crime worse? To look at an extreme example, if your white child were killed by a black man who outwardly stated he hated white people, would that be worse than your child being killed by a white man who just killed children for "fun"? Of course its horrible to think of, but its horrible to think that one crime is worse than the other just because of the skin of the perpetrator or the victim.
Posted by Me Too, a resident of the Canyon Creek neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 11:03 pm
And by the way, if we go back to second grade...sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me. Don't worry about names that people call you, they are idiots. You have family and friends that actually care about you, what difference does it make if a drunk moron calls you a name? And believe me, I've been called many names by many stupid drunk people and I'm ok with that, because most of them are in prison.
Posted by M, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 11:38 pm
I just now read this story and I am shocked to find out that the taxi driver who was beaten is a close friend of mine. Jaswinder is one of the most gentle people I have even known, he would never raise a hand in anger. He is also a deeply spiritual man who actual adheres to his faith, which is quite a statement about the degree of character this man has. Jaswinder has young children and not only works to support his family here in the states but also sends a good deal of his money back to his family in India, and takes care of his elderly, and less financially well off relatives with his moderate earnings from driving his cab every night, not because he has to, or because he is asked to, but because he, in his heart wants to. In the end however Jaswinder would hold no grudge, or harbor ill feelings or intentions for these two men.
For that, and many other reason, Jaswinder is a far better man than I.
It is a real shame that these two people decided to let out their rage on Jaswinder, or anyone for that matter.
Posted by M, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Aug 29, 2009 at 2:30 am
Thank you for your comment MeToo
I am quite tempted to rant about people seeing others a disposable for various reasons, but I will save that for another day. All I can think to say is that the people who beat Jaswinder up must be so consumed with rage that they simply can not think or act correctly, especially once they get alcohol in their systems. To imagine living life with so much rage and hatred is a terrifying and saddening prospect. Now they will have to answer for their actions and enter a new world that is far less forgiving than the world of free men. It also saddens me that my friend had to endure the brunt of their taunts, fists, and feet in order for this lesson to be had. Will they learn anything, one can hope. Perhaps this is why good people must suffer at the hands of those who seek to harm others. Who can say.
Posted by Frankly,, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Aug 29, 2009 at 7:57 am
Frankly, all crime is a hate crime. And since when was black crime on whites not hate? Studies have always shown that those crimes were the result of unresolved hatred over unrelated slavery, etc.
Yes, that was inflamatory, and I am mad about these two men beating the taxi driver. It probabaly IS a hate crime and needs to be treated as such. I just don't like that crime against whites will never be called "hate crimes".
Posted by Lynn, a resident of the Ruby Hill neighborhood, on Aug 29, 2009 at 12:34 pm
A good rule to follow is: believe in 50% of what the media reports. Why does the race card have to be pulled all the time? To the media: just for one day try reporting incidents without naming the race, religion, or color of any perps or vistims........imagine that we would all be described as people, humans, men and women and then perhaps we would begin to see each other as that too.
Posted by PToWN94566, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Aug 29, 2009 at 2:09 pm PToWN94566 is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
Lynn, why would two white males beat up a taxi driver? The driver didn't threaten them, he was simply doing his job. If they wanted to ride and didn't want to pay for it, they could have jumped out of the car and ran. The driver that was beat up was described as a man, which last time I checked is a human, so what more do you want? Do you want people to not bring up the truth? Do you think this guys would have beaten up a mid 30's white taxi driver that seemed "hipped"? I highly doubt it.
This is considered a hate crime probably because of what was said to the driver. People are using their prejudices to justify why they physically beat up someone. It's different than if some loon walked off the street that is mentally unstable and started hitting people because "God told him too." If a black person killed an all white family because he didn't like white people, that is a hate crime. If a white person rapes an Indian person because they don't like Indians, it is a hate crime. No crime is ever better or worse than the other. It comes to down to determining why people act out; some do it because they don't know better and others do it for reasons of pure hatred (simply because "I don't like such-n-such ethnic group).
Posted by Lynn, a resident of the Foothill Farms neighborhood, on Aug 29, 2009 at 10:11 pm
PT0Wn....you are right I agree with you not saying that any beating is justified I just think regardless of any crime the first thing most people judge is race/religion and sometimes that is not the case.
No beating is EVER ok by anybody...period.
And, you must hold more information than what has been published in the papers because you refer to "what was said to the driver". Do we actually know what was said that would in fact prove this was a "hate crime". What if the two drunk idiots were just that, drunk idiots and would have reacted the same way regardless of what the taxi driver looked like-does that make it a hate crime or just a crime and what the heck is the diff? Wrong is wrong in my opinion.
The main point - there are ALWAYS two sides to a story and there should be NO ethnicity, race or religion which is deemed more believeable than another....so believe a mere 50% of what is published (especially from a breaking story).
Posted by Very Sad, a resident of Livermore, on Aug 30, 2009 at 10:56 pm
The two men that beat Jaswinder : Both of them have batchelor degrees' and work in the same company as realtors. One holds a high standing in the company as well!!! They beat a man who is very innocent, & speaks very little enlgish. Having two baby children & and a wife that cannot understand english very well, Jaswinder is very heart broken from the treatment he received for doing his duty as a taxi driver. He works at night to get paid more than the day shift, to take people home safely as a taxi driver in this country to provide for his family. Jaswinder cannot sleep well b/c of the tremendous harm done to his body, and face by these two men.
Posted by Paul, a resident of Dublin, on Aug 30, 2009 at 11:45 pm
Pretty sad. I actually know who the guy is that was assaulted. They apparently were yelling racial slurs such as "Taliban". The fact is by the is not even Muslim. This really roots back to how we need our education system improved to learn about all cultures. Pretty sad, these 2 guys are brokers for Colliers-Parrish and probably will hire some big wig lawyers. This is America people, the melting pot of the world.... moreoever this is the Bay Area, the beauty is our diversity. Sad to see, I hope these guys learn their lesson. I would like to see them come and speak at in our community or come and learn about our community before anything else. The older guy has a family, try explaining that to your kids buddy. Go Bless America!
Posted by KC, a resident of the Country Fair neighborhood, on Aug 31, 2009 at 9:03 am
no matter the race, religion or whatever...these 2 men should be prosecuted. i dont care what color anyone is...no human deserves that. i feel for the cab driver just doing his damn job. my heart aches for the victim. sad to think that we have such nuts living so close to us. but then again, the world is full of them.
Posted by LK, a resident of the Mohr Park neighborhood, on Aug 31, 2009 at 9:13 am
What despair I feel when I read news like this. I hope the two low lifes go to jail for an extremely long time, that their friends and family SHUN THEM for their SHAMEFUL behavior. I am ashamed to have them in the human race.
I have compassion for the driver, and hope he knows that good people stand with him. Hopefully this will not instill fear in him and stop him from earning his living, driving the cab. He shouldn't have to have worry about this animalistic behavior happening to him again.
Posted by Bobby, a resident of the Del Prado neighborhood, on Aug 31, 2009 at 9:38 am
I am not saying it excuses it but if you read up above the is translating into hate crimes, religious stuff, anti semitism etc. I thought they were like 27 and 33 but you say they are middle aged? Maybe I read the article incorrectly and they are older. I am just saying that people do things drunk that they would never do sober and they should get in trouble no doubt but I wonder how much time they will get for this. Afterall, Michael Vick got 2 years for killing dogs.
Posted by K, a resident of the Pleasanton Valley neighborhood, on Aug 31, 2009 at 9:49 am
This is posted on the Colliers_Parish Website as their core values...they work in the Stockton office...Goldstein is the managing partner, Billingsley works for him
We are a people centered company that continues to be built by identifying people who have a "similar heartbeat". We believe in the dignity of people and therefore aspire to treat each other with love and mutual respect. We believe in "self responsibility" and therefore do not blame others for what happens in our lives. You can describe our environment as one of integrity, caring, nurturing, trust, closeness; and one of chiefly givers rather than takers. We operate in a "family atmosphere" and are all for one and one for all. We believe in giving the "benefit of the doubt" rather than jumping to conclusions. We believe in the value of continuing education to build and maintain the highest level of competence. How we deal with issues comes from the inside out. Our word is our bond and we believe in never burning a bridge. We look at the company as "our" company. It's a place where we all experience both "professional" and "personal growth" and an environment that brings out the best in each of us.
Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore, on Aug 31, 2009 at 9:55 am
In my opinion, they deserve to be in prison for their cowardly acts. In prison they will learn that what goes around comes around.
So what if they were intoxicated? They committed a HATE CRIME against an innocent man and they were arrested. In time, you will understand what constitutes a HATE CRIME. This incident is clearly a HATE CRIME and that will make a difference when it comes to sentencing.
I look forward to their sentencing. They have indeed tarnished the reputation of the real estate agency where they worked. sad...
Posted by James, a resident of the Highland Oaks neighborhood, on Aug 31, 2009 at 9:59 am
This is a detestable crime.
But Cholo, you are completely out of line to implicate Fox News for any involvement. I am really getting sick and tired of the left-wing loons in this oountry blaming Fox News for everything they can think of. The fact is, Fox News and The Wall Street Journal are two of the very few news sources that are relatively unbiased in their news coverage.
" The experienced professionals of Colliers will create solutions for all of your real estate needs. With our professionals, you can be assured of excellent service no matter the type of requirement or location."
Posted by Bobby, a resident of the Del Prado neighborhood, on Aug 31, 2009 at 2:18 pm
That is truly amazing. Those guys look more like victims than assailants! Well I imagine they will be in big time trouble with their employer except they cannot be fired until such time as they are convicted in this state otherwise they can sue the real estate company........strange world. I wonder what type of time they can expect for something like this if any?
Posted by D W, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Aug 31, 2009 at 3:02 pm
Fox News unbiased? HA! That's a bloody laugh! Which network has had the most influence on these all-yell-no-debate protests at town halls? It's not even close. Pity the fools who continue to raise the ratings for a clearly hate-filled network. And I could care less about most of the other side's media - NY & LA Times, Chronicle, and so on as well as foot-in-the-mouth Sharpton et al. Also, please stop buying all of these empty-headed heartless hate-filled books by the Malkins, Levins, etc. No wonder civility is becoming extinct! Please help bring that back!
Posted by Michael, a resident of Livermore, on Aug 31, 2009 at 3:04 pm
If it is their first non violent conviction or felony warrant then the DA will plea bargain and each will get a fine, probation, and mandatory anger management classes. The prisons are to over crowded.
Posted by Bobby, a resident of the Del Prado neighborhood, on Aug 31, 2009 at 3:28 pm
So after you concluded your hate filled rant against what you perceive to be hate filled rants could I ask a question? Can you give me some examples of things put out on Fox News which are not factual? Usually libs as I believe you to be lash out against things they cannot logically refute so please give us some examples.
Posted by J, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Aug 31, 2009 at 4:42 pm
M- Please extend my wish to Jaswinder for a speedy healing and that he soon feels safe again. It is sad that in this day, where we are supposed to be so much smarter and more culturally aware, that this type of crime still happens. We obviously have not come so far as we believed.
I sincerely hope that the authorities take into account the fact that this attack was unprovoked and that this gentleman was providing two inebriated men a safe passage home when they chose to attack him. This was not a random attack on the street, he was providing a service to these men when they chose to abuse him.
I intend to contact family members living near the realtors office these men work for and ask that they give them no business as long as they employ "thugs"
Posted by John, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Sep 1, 2009 at 11:00 pm
I went through school with Mike and he was never the type of person to do something like this. I have to believe that his behavior and judgement must have been influenced by alcohol (not to say that is a legitimate excuse by any means), and that there must be more to this story than is being reported. I'm sure he is filled with regret and embarrassment about what he allegedly did that night. Throughout junior high and high school Mike was always a good person that never hurt anyone.
Posted by Srv, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Sep 4, 2009 at 11:40 am
I grew up with Jacob in high school and know him well. While I sympathize with the victim and agree there is no excuse for assault this incident is not a hate crime. The article is quick to point out the racial slurs the victim was called but failed to mention how the incident escalated. As an ethnic man myself Jacob has always protected me and looked after my best interest. I believe there were incidents not reported in this article that led to an assault. Other articles report that the situation escalated after being denied the use if a credit card as well as the driver ignoring the specified route to the requested location which infuriated the defendants.
Opinions based soley on the this article are ilinformed. The media does its best to sell papers. Why the author chose to not report on the entire incident and focus on race is beyond me. Racial profiling and hate crimes seem to be at the forefront of the media. This incident, however, is not one of those cases.
Posted by appalled, a resident of the Pleasanton Valley neighborhood, on Sep 4, 2009 at 1:57 pm
I've read the article and read all of the comments. I find what the two assailants did appalling. However, even more appalling are the comments left here in this article. It saddens me to read the comments left by my peers demanding retribution despite the lack of facts this article provides. Clearly this is not the whole story and there were events leading to the incident.
Apparently we're in an age where one is guilty until proven innocent regarding hate crimes. At what point do these readers feel the need to act upon an article by means of calling their employment and leaving nasty comments. The readers expressing great rage should consider that both assailants are college educated with no priors and have families.
It's irresponsible as a reader to attack them, their work, and their families at any time especially before the police investigation is complete and without the complete story.
Posted by LoveMakesTheWorldGoRound, a resident of San Ramon, on Sep 4, 2009 at 7:06 pm
I am so sorry for this innocent victim... I hope he will be healthy soon. Mike Goldstein and Jake Billingsley are thugs and treat everyone with disrespect including their real estate customers with Colliers International.
Posted by Seth Jaspin, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Sep 7, 2009 at 9:37 pm
There are always 2 sides to every story and this is no exception. We live in a very messed up time, where anything you say or do can be considered racist. We have a black presedent now and anything that is against a person of color is a hate crime. This is bull. I have been called cracker, whitey, nazi, kkk and many other things just because i am white. If I called the police it would not be considered hate at all. I know cause I have called. This is crap and the cabby probably deserved getting his face kicked in.
Posted by Pleasanton, a resident of the Pleasanton Valley neighborhood, on Sep 8, 2009 at 4:15 pm
I have had many taxi driver's argue with me for no reason at all. Of course I did not beat them up but I'm not saying they didnt make me upset and want to. In my opinion this story could be very one sided. I don't know to many people who will punch someone for no reason at all. Maybe it's possible the cab driver was the one having a bad night. But since he was the one who ended up being beat up at the end of the night everyone seems to think he was just an innocent victim.
Posted by Daena, a resident of the Danville neighborhood, on Jan 7, 2010 at 8:57 pm
There are three sides to every story. Your side, my side, and the TRUTH...
One question, if the driver of this cab was not a "minority" would this receive as much attention? Just because someone is a "minority" it is labeled a "hate crime" and people get ridiculed... All this driver had to say was that it was a hate crime and that makes him the victim... To any cab driver out there who has screwed over their fares by first saying they accept credit and then changing to only accepting cash, you DO need to go back from where ever you came from. People need to understand to answer questions honestly... If you don't take credit cards, then ANSWER the question with a NO. This cab driver completely manipulated this situation... It's sad that people are so quick to judge...
The ignorance of people amazes me... The media spins a story and all the ignorant idiots who thrive on drama and adding their non-important opinions hop on the band wagon. Anyone who states their opinion based on a situation they have not seen and know nothing about is a coward.