You have let our children down! Schools & Kids, posted by Disappointed Pleasantonian, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 10:54 am
In the past 11 years of working & living in Pleasanton everyone I have spoken to in this community has pride themselves on what a great school district & family community we live in.
Yet Pleasanton is the only local community that did not pass a parcel tax to support their school district. Nor did the families of students step up & donate during the I Love Pleasanton Schools campaign. It is just so sad to see programs disappear because people refuse to help our children. These programs are not just extracurricular activites, art or musical programs, but Study Hall programs that help students who struggle with homework & can't afford expensive tutoring. The education of our children is important & influences our community. Pleasanton is known for being a successful community with a high median income. I am just so disappointed & sad to see the children of Pleasanton suffer because people refuse to contribute. Although, funny thing is you still see those Coach purses, new cars, designer clothes...etc.
Posted by To Stacey, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 11:30 am
I'm sure you've spent time volunteering in classes and helped out financially to the best of your ability (correct me if I'm wrong), but many people seem to busy or self-absorbed to do their part. This is a change for the worse for Pleasanton.
Posted by beth, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Get a grip! Up until now, I have disagreed 100% of the time with Stacey above. However, on this topic, I wholeheartedly agree with her. Stop pointing fingers at everyone else and take a look at yourself more closely.
Unlike the national healthcare program where, if passed, we all will have NO other option but government healthcare, at this time you also have a couple different school options.
Instead of sending your kids to government schools, you have the option (until Obama kills these options...which I believe is coming SOON) of...
- private schools (even if too expensive, some schools subsidize the expense)
If either of these options are not possible for you, then you can always supplement your kids education from government schools.
Stop this "entitlement" mentality and start accepting personal responsibility!!!
Posted by Yo beth (Privatize?), a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 1:28 pm
Lay off the Rush Limbaugh.
" ... if passed, we all will have NO other option but government healthcare"
Only if you get your news from Glenn Beck.
Start reading real news sources if you want to be taken seriously. Get out in the real world and see what is happening with your own eyes. It takes some effort and responsibility on your part but the effort is well worth it.
And bye the way, education is an entitlement. It is in the constitution of the state of California. But you wouldn't know that if all your news comes from Mark Levin.
Posted by Pietra, a resident of the Del Prado neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 1:38 pm
you are 100% correct and it is a shame people expect others to pay for their own children. My husband and I have lived in Pleasanton since 1978 and raised our 3 children here who are now grown and on their own. We volunteered, worked in barbecues, fundraisers, donated our time and money but never asked for a handout so all of this begging is beyond my level of understanding.
Posted by Disappointed Pleasantonian, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 1:57 pm
I wish you "Right Wingers" would get it straight for once...I was talking to those "PARENTS" whom have not stepped up & donated their share. However you will be the ones complaining when our youth are running this country on the education you refuse to contibute too. Remember it takes a village...
I do all I can to make sure not only my children, but all children around me get the help they need. Not all children have the same options!
Posted by beth, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 2:52 pm
Comparing government schools across this State, the Pleasanton government schools are pretty good. So I don't know what your problem is. Perhaps the problem is with your level of expectation about government schools. Do you expect top quality performance in other government programs like DMV? FEMA? USPS? Stimulus Program? War on Poverty? I think you need to adjust your expectations.
Also...to "Yo" above...yes, I am well-aware that all in this State are 'entitled' to government education via our tax dollars. However, there is very little or no mention of our entitlement to top "quality" education. Remember unions are opposed to performance standards.
Posted by Homeowner, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 3:03 pm
You make a nice point about personal responsibility, but then erode all your credibility by propagating lies, or at best, your opinion, as facts.
None of the current healthcare proposals eliminate the current private helthcare options. You can keep your private coverage even if any of these proposals, in their current forms, are passed. You might believe that if one of these proposals passes the private options will die off over (a very long) time, but that is simply a wild opinion.
Do have any backup that Hillary Clinton is a socialist? Do you even know what socialism is?
And why do you believe Obama will eliminate homeschooling and private schools? You do know that his kids attend private school, right?
Given your logic and rhetoric skills, I hope you aren't doing any homeschooling yourself. If you are, at least leave out the curriculum that teaches cavemen rode dinosaurs.
Posted by tina, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 3:16 pm
A kid shouldn't need extra help if they had good, qualified teachers. Don't rely on after school help and tutoring. Tutor your own kid as he is YOUR kid or you can find a qualified older student that can help your kid out. The districts always want more money. They need to tighten the belt just like everyone else. Or they'll find some way to spend it. This is all over not just Pleasanton!
Posted by beth, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 3:32 pm
My Dearest "Homeowner" ...
You are apparently watching way too much government controlled media, otherwise you would notice that Obama and his dem cronies are determined to destroy the private sector...and he also wants to control all communications.
Given this FACT, it is not a stretch to conclude that Obama will have k-12 private schools and homeschooling in his crosshairs soon...probably immediately after he nationalizes healthcare in the US.
Regarding the fact that Obama has his kids in private schools...BFD!!!! ARE YOU DELUSIONAL??? EARTH TO HOMEOWNER!!! What would EVER give you the idea that OBAMA and CONGRESS would ever be required to participate in the same programs as they require their minions? Do you see Obama and the Dems proposing that they be required the SAME HEALTHCARE as they're requiring citizens? (PS...the Dems rejected a Republican sponsored amendment that would require the same healthcare program for
Congress and the public.)
You are pathetic. There is hope tho...if you start paying more attention to what Obama is doing to this country. Private and home schooling will be in his crosshairs soon.
Posted by Stay Cool, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 3:56 pm
In four short hours, this thread has been reduced to a forum for Beth and other like-minded, misinformed individuals to spread fallacies and insult people, not to mention imply that we should expect less than the best from our system of education.
To stay on topic, back to school night last night clearly laid out the impact of the budget cuts by illustrating how our students will be affected (in terms of logistics, materials, class size, etc.), and for the kids, it is really a bummer.
Posted by beth, a resident of the Downtown neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 4:46 pm
Dear Yo (above)
You mention above...that I should listen to "REAL news sources." Do tell...what REAL news sources do you get your "news" from?
Could it be those news sources that did such a great job "vetting" Obama during his candidacy.
..like the anchor who declared that he gets "chills up his legs" when Obama speaks?
...like those media outlets that refuse to air an alternative opinion of Obamacare?
...like the media that slobber over Teddy Kennedy's passing without ever telling you of those despicable things he's done (or tried to do) to hurt this country...like trying to sign a secretive agreement with Russia during the Reagan era which would sabotage America's European missile shield; like his efforts at stopping the immigration of skilled labor into the US in favor of unskilled labor and permitting "chain migration" of additional unskilled labor; his demonization of Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas, not to mention his joking about Chappaquiddick among other things...
...if your REAL news source is any one or all of the major media, I encourage you to check out the following site to learn more of their "unbiased" coverage by checking out the link below...
Posted by Pleasanton Parent, a resident of the Pleasanton Meadows neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 4:59 pm
I must agree with Disappointed Pleasantonian in that I too am dissapointed. I am disappointed our schools didn't plan for the rainy day during the economic boom, however while hindsight is always 20/20, come to present day I'm disappointed the school district tried to "sneak by" a parcel tax by playing politics and holding a special ballot waisting hundreds of thousands of dollars instead of developing an equitable, fiscally responsible, and sustainable solution balancing the needs of the community with those of the district employees. I'm disappointed the district and some of its employees engaged in scare tactics to motivate parents to vote in favor of the measure instead of coming to the community and developing a solution together. I'm disappointed that the district didn't address the concerns of the community once voiced and instead of asking what would it take for the community to support such a measure; tried to instead force one down our throats. I'm disappointed this issue divided our community, and still continues to do so to this day. Yes Disappointed Pleasantonian I too am disappointed.
Nationalizing Public Education Comes After Health Care
By Lee Cary
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And there it is. Federal control over "some kind of equal opportunity educational system" might lead to more equal development of innate skills, but it would need to be supplemented by a redistributive tax system that spreads the wealth to accompany an equalization of skills. A twofer, as it were.
Unless the nation pushes back against the trend, local communities will lose control over their neighborhood schools and a Beltway School Czar will be in our future.
Posted by Tina, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 6:38 pm
I'm glad Beth gets it! Obama is ruining our country! He wants the government to control way too much. Do you guys like the way DMV is handling your needs? This is a typical government agency.
Don't count on the school system to go over and beyond with tutoring your kids. Why should they? You are responsible for YOUR own children. If you are not intelligent enough to tutor your own kids then hire an older high school kid who would be more than willing to earn cheap wages. Maybe the problem is too many of you are working and not raising your own kids and rely on after school programs. You don't want to deal with homework, etc...
Posted by Dark Corners of Town, a resident of the Country Fair neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Homeowner - Help me out here. One of the proposals is that a company that currently provides health care coverage for its employees, can choose to not provide it and instead, pay a percentage of payroll as a tax to the federal govt.
Technically the proposal doesn't 'eliminate' private health care option. It is a powerful incentive for companies to eliminate private coverage plans.
At the right incentive level, most companies would rather pay the payroll tax. Causing the elimination of private health care plans.
Posted by Anonymous, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 8:04 pm
It is easy to take everyone on a guilt trip because most people are generally generous and caring of weak and helpless people. But in a free country like ours (until government takes over everything), we should not "force" people to "help" others in need. Such an approach and attitude will only hurt the 'needy' and won't do much for their cause.
Having said that, I am wondering why the Measure G tried to force and impose on every Pleasntonian yet another tax? Instead of having every parent of school-district-attending kid just done the $250 dollars at the beginning of the school year? That is still only a 'fraction' of what a private school tuition would cost.
Posted by rent or buy!, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 8:21 pm
I can't believe all the renters here. They are resentful that they missed out on the housing boom. Everyone knows one of these "black sheep" types at family gatherings. You know the one who is thirty years old and still renting -- Thinking that one day prices will come down enough for him to finally buy. Parents look on with a sense of shame, but sometimes there is little that they can do.
Renters have an average net worth of $3000. Homeowners have average net worth of $200,000. Renters experience more crime, have less education and are more likely to abuse drugs and alcohol. Homeowners are building equity, but renters are throwing away money on rent. What is your excuse for not buying?
Posted by Yo Beth, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 8:33 pm
I supposed that liberal media bias forced Americans to vote for Obama instead of socialist Sarah Palin. Palin who is happy to give $700 billion dollars of tax money to failed Wall Street fat cats but tells us to trust the free market! Why can't she trust it? Why is she a socialist only when it comes to rich people. Maybe Americans got it that Republicans didn't offer any kind of alternative.
Try reading The Wall Street Journal, Barron's, or Financial Times for financial news. I've yet to read in any of those that Obama wants to destroy America or that he has any intention of outlawing private schools. Did you just dream that one up? Seems like the kind of thing a Glenn Beck or Michael Savage would make up.
Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger, a resident of the Vintage Hills Elementary School neighborhood, on Aug 28, 2009 at 9:08 pm
To get back to the original post: Where is the outrage about the leadership skipping through the halls of the DO sprinkling our tax dollars around like it was (OPM, other people's money) available in an endless supply? Where is the outrage about the wasted funds spent on the campaign or the poorly crafted plan, language, and execution of that campaign? Where is the outrage that the fundraising campaign was run over the summer, at the least convenient time of year making the goal impossible to achieve?
We don't know what is being given directly to the schools in time or money It could be that when you see that parent getting out of their new car, wearing designer clothes, and opening their Coach purse or wallet, they are giving money where they determined it would do the most good.
Posted by Janna, a resident of Dublin, on Aug 29, 2009 at 12:46 pm Janna is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
Dark Corners of Town:
On the flip side of what you're writing, companies have no incentive to offer insurance right now. It's too cost prohibitive. So it's ok that some people work hard at their jobs and aren't provided benefits, but it would detrimental to you for your employer to flip to public option benefits. Frankly, why should I care if your insurance is changed when you don't even care that I don't have benefits?
Posted by Stacey, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Aug 29, 2009 at 12:52 pm Stacey is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
It reminds me of PUSD's teachers union, which opted to take more in salary in exchange for health benefits (benefits "on the schedule"). Then this was used as an argument for a parcel tax when in fact it is an argument for health care reform.