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Livermore guitar company to be featured on new ABC reality show

Original post made on Aug 23, 2009

A Livermore guitar company will plead its case to a panel of judges this Sunday on ABC for the premiere of new reality show "Shark Tank."


Read the full story here Web Link posted Thursday, August 20, 2009, 4:28 PM

Comments (36)

Posted by Randi, a resident of Bridle Creek
on Aug 23, 2009 at 3:57 pm

Can't wait to see Jeff and Josh!


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 23, 2009 at 4:42 pm

I will only purchase a guitar from a REPUTABLE GUITAR LUTHIER. These are cut elsewhere (?) and assembled in the US? There are many fine luthiers in the US and in the bay area. I would want to know about the grade of the tone woods - top, bottom & sides. Where the wood is from and the tap tone. I would also want to view the bracing structure, materials used and how it has been put together. They are very low end guitars and mostly for beginners. I would not want one.

I will definitely watch and study the product.


Posted by Trace, a resident of Downtown
on Aug 23, 2009 at 4:53 pm

I was just e-mailing my buddy who is a world renowned sound man. He was Def Leppard's head sound guy for years. He is on tour with another National Talent Group at present.

He knows these Livermore guys and say's the guitars are GREAT!


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 23, 2009 at 5:51 pm

Do you know where I can hear a sound clip? I play classical guitar! (hooray Cholo!) and I know fine guitars. I would ONLY consider working with a REPUTABLE GUITAR LUTHIER. I need to know about the tone woods used, construction, internal bracking and you know what, I have a fantastic high end case made of fiberglass that is lightweight and I would NEVER want a guitar that folds. With a really well made case, you can still board a plane.
To each his own...

I would encourage the guys to keep their project alive but their product is for beginners and not people that play at a professional classical level. ta-ta...


Posted by Trace, a resident of Downtown
on Aug 23, 2009 at 7:35 pm

Cholo,

I think they will be on ABC at 8 or 9 tonight.

On the web site, click reviews and you will be very suprised. These guys are NO strangers to the music industry and or exceptional guitar work. You can go to this link.

Web Link

Regards,

Trace


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 23, 2009 at 7:43 pm

I'll check them out. I've been to about 5 NAMM shows, seen their stuff but was mostly interested in a different kind of instrument.


Posted by Me Too, a resident of Canyon Creek
on Aug 23, 2009 at 11:46 pm

Not too be technical, but wasn't the premiere last week (at least I watched the show last week).

Good for these guys, I hope they make better decisions than some of the people on that show.

Cholo - you actually do something? Although first you have no idea who these guys are, you want to here a sound clip but then you have a strong opinion on their product?????? If you have no idea about their product (I need to know about the tone woods used, construction, internal bracking) how can you make such a comment?????


Posted by Rick, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 24, 2009 at 12:39 am

If you're interested in getting the details of what is possible in a Voyage-air guitar, you need to contact the master luthier, Harvey Leach: www.leachguitars.com. He's been crafting high quality, one of a kind masterpieces for decades, using a variety of fine tone woods. Harvey has also been one of Martin Guitars' go to inlay artists for their most valuable one-of-a-kind museum pieces.

Quite a few full-time, professional guitarists now have Voyage-air guitars and are impressed with their quality.

I agree with the previous post... but assure you that Harvey can easily answer all your questions about the finest details of construction and the advantages of each of the materials he uses in his guitars.


Posted by Roadie, a resident of another community
on Aug 24, 2009 at 12:44 am

Cholo seems like he is an expert with GOOGLE!


Posted by Roadie, a resident of another community
on Aug 24, 2009 at 12:48 am

Beautiful Leach Guitars:

Web Link


Posted by Roadie, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 24, 2009 at 12:54 am

That didn't seem to link properly?

Look at the gallery:

Web Link


Posted by Benjamin, a resident of Castlewood
on Aug 24, 2009 at 12:56 am

Sweet at 125K:


Web Link


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 24, 2009 at 7:54 am

Sorry to disappoint you boys but I know a whole lot about guitars. These are assembly line models. Perfect for student beginners who want to carry their instrument to school for a lesson. I'll settle for a luthier made guitar without the cheap shell inlay or even position dots.

All that inlay has nothing to do with how a guitar sounds. It's best to choose the very best tone woods that you can afford. Develop a relationship with your luthier so that she/he understands exactly what you want. You will be much happier when you receive you instrument and it meets your specific needs! ta-ta boys...

I wish the guys well and I hope they prove the sharks wrong!


Posted by Dr. MoFo, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Aug 24, 2009 at 8:36 am

Mr. Cholo doesn't have a clue. It is "guitar tweaks" like this that luthiers really don't like except for their money. The reality is, guitar technology is not rocket science. Why do you think there are so many 'copycats"?, yes everybody makes a Martin copy. That's because it's easy, its been done for 175 years! Voyage-Air is a Martin copy for all intensive purposes. That's not bad, Martin makes great guitars, ask any real guitar player (sorry Cholo). The bottom line is, tone wood is important, bracing is important and construction details are paramount. All woods sound different, all guitars sound different, even the same models! All specifications being the same, the difference between a "handmade", "luthier guitar" and a "production guitar" is only price and county of origin.

Get you nose out of the wood and play the guitar!

A Voyage-Air Believer,

Dr. MoFo


Posted by Dr. MoFo, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Aug 24, 2009 at 8:41 am

I forgot to mention.......
I also own a Claxton, Santa Cruz, Martin, Goodall, Breedlove, Gibson, Epiphone, Leach, McCollum, Collings, shall I go on? Oh, and a few Voyage-Airs!!

www.voyageairguitar.com


Posted by Dr. Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 24, 2009 at 9:10 am

Have you no shame missy mofo? MoFo = Bad Girl!

Spend your money only on luthier made guitars, NOT PRODUCTION MODELS.

If you're a serious student of the guitar, buy the very best guitar that you can afford. Understand as much as you can about tone woods and tap tone. Find out about all the materials that are used and how they are put together. Bracing is critical, so learn about how it affects sound. Contact the Guitar Foundation of America and check around for referrals to reputable luthiers. NOT just folks that assemble pre-cut woods that they know little about. Learn about finish and how it is applied. Don't be tricked by high gloss and fancy inlay! Get informed about the highest quality tuners and the strings that are most appropriate for your guitar. If you live in the bay area, visit the SF Conservatory of Music and read up on guitar history. The guitar has been around for a very very long time. It has a fascinating history. Stick your nose into books and study study study. Play your luthier made guitar made to meet your needs.

I own an original Panormo (completely restored), 1 Jose Oribe classical, 1 Rick Turner that can blast you to Mars and 1 Cindy Burton (classical). Cholo is doing just fine! tee hee hee...

guitars are way fun...








Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 24, 2009 at 9:19 am

Here is a list of TOP guitar luthiers: Web Link

check out their web pages, it's fun!

tee hee hee, tee hee hee...


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 24, 2009 at 9:24 am

I forgot to mention that I have an eye on a Robert Ruck classical guitar. It has the 2 acoustic ports that make it sooooooooooooooo cool! If I can ever get my hands on one, I'll never sell it!

HOORAY ROBERT RUCK! VIVA!


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 24, 2009 at 9:24 am

I forgot to mention that I have an eye on a Robert Ruck classical guitar. It has the 2 acoustic ports that make it sooooooooooooooo cool! If I can ever get my hands on one, I'll never sell it!

HOORAY ROBERT RUCK! VIVA!


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 24, 2009 at 12:37 pm

Web Link Read articles about Guitars by Ervin Somogyi, a Luthier from Oakland, CA. He is a well known and respected luthier. HIs articles are very informative. Scout around his web page...a very interesting guy...

signed,

Dr. Cholo


Posted by Dr. Mofo, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Aug 24, 2009 at 1:16 pm

Ervin is a good friend and one of the best luthiers. Look, we agree. I just think you're being a little too hard on Voyage-Air. Have your ever played one of their Premier models? Have you really? Tapped, listened, inspected with a mirror? No? Oh well, like I said. You need to educate yourself vs. telling others what they need to know. You claim to be an expert, I think you are in serious need of a lesson or two. Play, listen and close your mouth so you don't dribble.

Hee hee back at cha.


Posted by Dr. Mofo, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Aug 24, 2009 at 1:16 pm

Ervin is a good friend and one of the best luthiers. Look, we agree. I just think you're being a little too hard on Voyage-Air. Have your ever played one of their Premier models? Have you really? Tapped, listened, inspected with a mirror? No? Oh well, like I said. You need to educate yourself vs. telling others what they need to know. You claim to be an expert, I think you are in serious need of a lesson or two. Play, listen and close your mouth so you don't dribble.

Hee hee back at cha.


Posted by Dr. Mofo, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Aug 24, 2009 at 1:16 pm

Ervin is a good friend and one of the best luthiers. Look, we agree. I just think you're being a little too hard on Voyage-Air. Have your ever played one of their Premier models? Have you really? Tapped, listened, inspected with a mirror? No? Oh well, like I said. You need to educate yourself vs. telling others what they need to know. You claim to be an expert, I think you are in serious need of a lesson or two. Play, listen and close your mouth so you don't dribble.

Hee hee back at cha.


Posted by Rick, a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Aug 24, 2009 at 2:22 pm

I wish the Livermore family well....but he should have taken the deal offered last night. Oh my.


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 24, 2009 at 2:22 pm

Web Link If you want cheap, then go for cheap! If you want a fine luthier made guitar that meets your specific needs, then think L U T H I E R! You won't be sorry. You get what you pay for.

If you want to be an AIR HEAD...be my guest!!!

I've been playing since age 10 and I;m 67 now. Take the HIGH ROAD and listen to the VOICE OF EXPERIENCE!

Signed,

Dr. Cholo


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 24, 2009 at 2:24 pm

Correction: I'm...


Posted by Dr. Mofo, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Aug 24, 2009 at 2:26 pm

Just because you're old doesn't mean you have a clue. My kids are pretty smart too :-)


Posted by Dr. Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 24, 2009 at 4:59 pm

Introducing: Maestro John Doan! Web Link

VIVA JOHN! VIVA!

signed,

Cholo


Posted by Dude, a resident of Downtown
on Aug 24, 2009 at 4:59 pm

Cholo,

Youn are one of the BEST Google researcher copy cats I have ever met and most Immatre for a 67 years old!??

Good Greif? You become a PRO on every subjest and we can copy and paste MOST of you content and find the ORIGINAL article and or Author!


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 24, 2009 at 5:05 pm

Irish: Web Link

Now this is what I call MUSIC! VIVA!


Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 24, 2009 at 5:13 pm

dude...you must have some kinda life if you spend your time tracking me!!!

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhaahhahahahahhaha...tee hee hee, tee hee hee...

you girls join hands and when I say ding ding ding, you come out scratching...tee hee hee, tee hee hee....


Posted by Dr. Mofo, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Aug 25, 2009 at 5:23 pm

Enough already, Mr. Cholo, please take your medication. Let's not get to excited, I hate to see you break a string :-) or should I say thread :-)

Music is the Voice of God, that's all. It's all good, even Mr. Cholo has a song to sing.


Posted by Dr. Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 26, 2009 at 2:32 pm

Spanish Luthiers...some of the best Classical guitars that I've ever seen or played!!!
Web Link Somebody is gonna need a special pill after you check out WHAT'S UP ON THIS SITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If you can't play and you need pretty, go for an AIR-HEAD! If you want a WINNER, see what's up with Spanish luthiers. HOT and more HOT! These guitars are for serious musicians, not BEGINNERS! Sorry tots.....oops, I mean air-heads!

Signed,

Cholo the MATURE! HOORAY!


Posted by Dr. Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 26, 2009 at 2:59 pm

Web Link The World's First Folding Guitar! READ ALL ABOUT IT!


Posted by Dr. Cholo, a resident of Livermore
on Aug 26, 2009 at 3:06 pm

Web Link Japanese Folding Guitar!


Posted by Dr. Mofo, a resident of Ruby Hill
on Sep 15, 2009 at 4:27 pm

Give it up Cholo, nobody is listening anymore :-)


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