Posted by Cliff, a resident of the Castlewood Heights neighborhood, on Jul 3, 2009 at 6:11 pm
I'm surprised there isn't more of this. People don't stop for pedestrians anymore, they drive towards them, timing their speed (we can only hope) so they (usually) don't actually hit the humans, but stopping completely just doesn't happen anymore.
Posted by resident, a resident of the Mission Park neighborhood, on Jul 4, 2009 at 1:25 am
Don't assume that the driver is always at fault. I have had teens literally run out in front of my car....I have had adults with little kids in hand walk behind my car as I'm pulling out of a parking stall. Last week I watched a teen run behind a huge SUV as they were backing up. You cannot always see when somebody runs or walks out of nowhere. Where is the common sense of the pedestrian? Are they looking for a way to sue? It takes both the driver and the pedestrian to keep the roads safe. Let's make sure that everyone does their part.
Posted by Heidi, a resident of Livermore, on Jul 4, 2009 at 8:33 am
I am the sister of one of the teenage girls hit. She said the car came out of nowhere and we have been told the driver was going 40 mph in a 25. She is in ICU with a broken thigh bone (in half), broken collar bone, plevis, nose and had a ruptured bladder, plus road rash everywhere. Today she is having her second surgery and they are putting a rod in her leg. She was supposed to ice skate in the World Championships in a month. She is very careful and usually is the one pulling others out of the way of danger. She is the sweetest girl, a 4.0 student and helps others donating her time. She has been so brave! She has a long road to recovery ahead of her.
Posted by MainStreetDiva, a member of the Vintage Hills Elementary School community, on Jul 4, 2009 at 8:47 am MainStreetDiva is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
Please know that your sister (and the other girl) are in our hearts and prayers. Please keep us posted as to her progress; we hope all goes well with these surgeries and pray that her recovery is swift and complete.
Posted by Patricia, a member of the Vintage Hills Elementary School community, on Jul 4, 2009 at 9:57 am
I'm so sorry these girls got hurt, and even sorrier that people immediately jump to blame. I drive this street several times a day, and have noticed several things. First, the park is used for sports practices, and cars often line the road. I've often seen kids run into the street as parents are busy unloading stuff from their vans and SUVs, and have frequently had kids -- and sometimes whole families, with parents holding the kids hands -- emerge from behind a large vehicle to dart across the street. I go very slowly down this short road and I have had drivers behind me get rather impatient. But a kid got killed a couple years ago just a block away -- not a punk kid, just a boy who wasn't looking in the right place at the right time. So, drivers: slow down! And parents and kids: use the crosswalk.
Of course, this happened IN the crosswalk, and it's a reminder that pedestrians waiting to cross have right of way. Whether the driver was speeding or not, when there's a crosswalk, you've got to slow down and look -- especially next to a park. Even if there are people WAITING to cross, you're supposed to STOP and let them cross.
Finally, given the time of day this happened, if she was driving from Touriga toward Bernal it's possible that the driver's vision was hampered by the sun. In late afternoon and evening, the sun is at just the right height and angle for that. If she was going the other way, then this wouldn't be a factor.
Posted by Karen Scott Brittany and Brian, a resident of Dublin, on Jul 4, 2009 at 8:02 pm
We are in Pittsburgh but our prayers are with you. One of the girls is our family member and we are thinking of her on this holiday. We hope that she will be back on the ice again and doing the things she loves.
Posted by Julie, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Jul 5, 2009 at 10:55 am Julie is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
Heidi, Thank you for the update. I am SO very sorry about your sister. It is indeed going to be a tough road for her, but I am glad that she survived. How is her friend?
This really hit home for me. I have teenage daughters who walk to Tawny Park. In fact a friend called me to be sure it wasn't mine! Those poor girls will recover, but they will likely feel physical and emotional effects for the rest of their life.
Posted by Jennifer, a resident of another community, on Jul 5, 2009 at 7:42 pm
I saw this blog and felt compelled to express my thoughts & feelings. I am very sorry for the two girls who were struck but I am also sorry for the woman who accidentally hit them. I am sure this woman did not get in her vehicle on Thursday with intentions of hitting anyone. This was an accident and even though the article says that the woman driving was not injured, I am sure that she is dealing with a great deal of emotional pain. Anger and placing blame in this situation will not help the girls or the woman driving the vehicle heal any faster. Accidents like this do happen and it could happen to any of us as a pedestrian or a driver that's why I was compelled to comment on this blog. We should never assume things or speak negatively toward anyone who is in an accident because we are all human and never know when it can be us or a loved one. My thoughts & prayers for all involved.
Posted by A Friend, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Jul 5, 2009 at 10:27 pm
Jennifer is right. I happen to know the driver and to say that she is completely distraught is an understatement. She is a responsible parent and good friend to many people in our community. Making assumptions about her or the accident without fact or evidence will not help anyone involved in this situation. Please try to have compassion for her and remember that it is by the grace of God this has not and will not happen to any of us as we drive throughout our city.
Posted by Mom, a member of the Vintage Hills Elementary School community, on Jul 7, 2009 at 10:02 pm
Once again, Jeb Bing is reporting incorrect facts in his "articles". Check the police report that have the FACTS regarding the accident before you "write" an article. I hope you post a "Correction" in the Weekly on Friday.
As for ALL the families involved, there are no words, only my heart-felt prayers.
Posted by MainStreetDiva, a member of the Vintage Hills Elementary School community, on Jul 8, 2009 at 4:06 pm MainStreetDiva is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
Yes, Mom, please tell us where / how you got the police report. Did you go down to the police station and ask for a copy? Will they just give you a copy? Or are you relying on other news sources (if so, please tell us which one - we'd like to see it).
Regardless whether the girls were in or out of the crosswalk, let's pray for speedy recoveries.
"...Two teenage girls were hit by a car while crossing the street in Pleasanton Thursday, according to police.
At around 7 p.m. at the intersection of Tawny Drive and Norton Way, a 14 and 15-year old girl were walking in a crosswalk when a late model Lexus sedan struck them, according to the Pleasanton Police Department..."
Posted by Heidi, a resident of Livermore, on Jul 9, 2009 at 9:18 pm
I just wanted to update everyone on my sister's condition. She is healing and is out of ICU, but is still in the hospital. She looks a little better everyday. She still has a long recovery ahead of her. Her friend has been released. You would think she has spent enough time in the hospital, but she comes to visit. We have had so much support, prayers and love from everyone during this tragedy.
Thank you all!
According to the police report the girls were in the crosswalk and the driver was going around the posted speed limit just to clear up all of the speculation.
Posted by Wayne, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Jul 11, 2009 at 7:04 pm
What a tragedy!!! It appears as if now this has turned into a hunt to see if the girls were in the crosswalk and for the focus to turn to something like that vs what it should be seems like blame is the underlying intent. Lets take a step back and not worry about that. Anybody in or out of a crosswalk has the right of way and the posted speed limit is the limit of speed you can go and safely stop regardless of the person being in the crosswalk or not. If the driver was going the speed limit, not on the phone, no alcohol involved etc, then I would say she is a victim of this tragedy too. I cant imagine what the girls and families are going through nor what the driver and her family is dealing with either. Its a life changing event for ALL parties involved. To the girls and family AND the driver and family: Hang in there and lets all be thankfull it wasnt worse than it could have been had someone been driving irresposibly.
From: A dad with two and who also drives in neighborhoods.
Posted by Friends of the Ogolin's, a resident of the Vintage Hills Elementary School neighborhood, on Jul 13, 2009 at 9:10 am
I am a lifelong (36 years) Pleasanton resident, and have lived in the Vintage Hills community this entire time. I have known the Ogolin's (the driver of the vehicle) for quite some time now, and our families have become great friends. What amazes me about this is that some of you are so quick to judge. You weren't there. Neither was I. Some "witnesses" say they saw it...but did they? You nor I know that. Sandi took a breathalyzer, which came back ZERO. Her cell phone records were summoned...she was NOT on the phone. She was ALONE in the car. And, she was told by the POLICE who interviewed her that they estimated her to be driving between 20-25 miles per hour. This was an ACCIDENT. Tragic, yes. Unthinkable, yes. But, one that could happen to ANY of us who drive near these highly populated parks where kids dart out in the middle of the street often. I am in no way saying that is what happened here. I, nor you, know if these girls were in the crosswalk or not. That is not the issue. But, I will say this, for what it is worth. Sandi Ogolin is one of the most thoughtful, generous, kind, unassuming, caring and genuine people you will ever meet in your life. She is what I like to call a good person. And, little do you all know, it has taken every ounce of will (and family) to get her to leave her house. She refuses to drive. She is tormented by this incident, and is riddled with guilt and pain. She will torture herself and live with this guilt for the rest of her life. Our heart goes out to those little girls, and we wish them a full and speedy recovery. I guarantee you noone wishes this more than Sandi Ogolin.
From: A dad (and husband) who KNOWS these neighborhoods
Posted by not allowed to give a name, a resident of Dublin, on Jul 13, 2009 at 11:33 am
i was one of the girls hit. we did not jump in front of the car we looked both ways and tried to get out of the way. ill admit some teens dont pay attention, but this is not an incident where that applies. she was goin faster then 25 otherwise both of us would b fine. we would have seen her. it does take pedestrian and driver to keep roads safe but as i said earlier we dint jump in front of the car and ask to fly 30 and 55 feet. my best friend is still in the hospital. im astounded the reporters havent gone into this but grateful all the same
Posted by not allowed to give a name, a resident of Dublin, on Jul 13, 2009 at 11:41 am
sorry to the friends and family of mrs Oglin (sorry if i spelled it wrong) the police report DOES say she was going the speed limit. i hope she can drive soon and gets better with the trauma. "witness" and "mom" we WERE in the crosswalk if u were actually there u would know. and where r u getting ur information? because my family had to wait for the police report.
Posted by Friends of the Ogolins, a resident of the Vintage Hills Elementary School neighborhood, on Jul 13, 2009 at 3:08 pm
Mom...I stand corrected...I was right the first time about Main St. Diva. Sorry I got confused with the back and forth....
And let me address the young lady victim who responded to my first posting. You need to re-read what I wrote young lady. I did not say NOR imply that you and your friend "jumped" out in front of the car. In fact, quite the contrary. What I said was, kids dart out in front of cars in heavily populated parks frequently. And I backed that up by saying I am in no way implying that was the case here, which I believe. Again, I believe it was an accident.
Posted by MainStreetDiva, a member of the Vintage Hills Elementary School community, on Jul 13, 2009 at 5:33 pm MainStreetDiva is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
With all the condemnation and then apologies and then more condemnation, I am confused.
1. I asked: Where do you get a copy of the police report? I asked this because my understanding is that only those parties involved with an accident can get copies of the police report. Why are some of you upset by my question? Was my question misinterpreted as being sarcastic? It was not meant that way.
2. "Mom" claims that J. Bing included incorrect information in the article, and that he should have read the police report before running the article. BUT she does not state *what* piece of information was incorrect! I pointed out the the PW was not the only news source that stated that the girls were in the crosswalk; the Valley/CC Times said the same thing. Mom, is that the piece of information that you are claiming is incorrect?
Why are some of you upset by my pointing out that the Times article also stated the girls were in the crosswalk? I asked where others were getting their information, their source. What is so upsetting about that? I don't get why I've suddenly become evil personified.
3. "A Witness" said:
"The girls were not in the crosswalk. I agree with Mom, check the facts."
Ok, WHERE can I check the facts? Why am I the bad guy simply because I asked how / where I can check the facts?
4. To "Friends of the Ogolins" - Why aren't you aiming at "Julie" as well, as she too asked where to get a copy of the police report?
Posted by Friends of the Ogolins, a resident of the Vintage Hills Elementary School neighborhood, on Jul 14, 2009 at 9:17 am
Well Main St. Diva...as is sometimes the case, meaning often gets lost in translation in written vs. spoken words. If I misinterpreted your meaning in the above postings, I do apologize.
However, reading this again, it does appear that you are being very sarcastic toward "Mom".
"Yes, Mom, please tell us where / how you got the police report. Did you go down to the police station and ask for a copy? Will they just give you a copy? Or are you relying on other news sources (if so, please tell us which one - we'd like to see it)".
I would think that if you weren't being sarcastic, you would have simply just said "Hey Mom, where did you find this info. out?"
Anyway...forget about all of that. The bottom line is, everyone involved in this accident is alive.
From: A dad (and husband) who KNOWS these neighborhoods
Posted by Patricia K., a resident of the Vintage Hills Elementary School neighborhood, on Jul 16, 2009 at 11:39 pm
I have kept these teenagers and their families in my prayers ever since I learned of this incident from one of my best friends, Sandy Ogolin, the driver of the vehicle in this accident. I have also kept Sandy and her family in my prayers daily as she is beside herself with guilt and sadness. This was an accident which could have happened to any one of us reading these posts. My heart goes out to everyone involved and would ask all of the readers to please have compassion for a wonderful, kind, responsible mother who never intended to hit anyone. Again, she is beyond distraught and has prayed for these girls every second of every day since this tragic incident. I would urge everyone to keep her in your thoughts and prayers with the two teenage girls. Thank you.