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California AG Brown sues Pleasanton over housing cap

Original post made by Carlos C, Valley Trails, on Jun 24, 2009

Attorney General Edmund G. Brown Jr. Wednesday sued the City of Pleasanton to remove its "draconian and illegal" limit on new housing, a significant cause of traffic congestion, air pollution and urban sprawl in the East Bay and Tri-Valley area.

full press release: Web Link

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Posted by Wow
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 24, 2009 at 2:36 pm

This makes complete sense...

With an economic downturn and struggling community budgets, let's go after a City when there are affordable housing units all over CA thanks to foreclosures, and frivilously start a campaign to ruin a community.

Sounds great!


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jun 24, 2009 at 2:37 pm

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Pleasanton should not hold it's breath over this. Start exploring the implementation of a legal housing cap immediately so that if and when a court overturns our current unknown-legality housing cap, we have another one all ready to adopt.

The type of legal housing cap I'm referring to is one that limits the number of housing units approved over a certain period of time rather than a hard limit. This "slow change" housing cap has already stood up in court in other cities.

Other issues, how is our housing requirement being calculated? Is it fair? How are our CO2 emissions being calculated? What is the proof that supports their argument that Pleasanton contributes to the congestion on 580 and is the methodology they used sound? If "79 percent of Pleasanton's 58,000 employees" live outside of Pleasanton, what's the percentage of those employees that live outside of a certain radius that causes their commutes to be long? Are they taking BART?


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Posted by Moonbeam
a resident of Birdland
on Jun 24, 2009 at 2:44 pm

Talk about "draconian". I guess this is what we get when we elect a nut like Brown and allow environmental activists to dictate policy. Never mind that most people do not live in the communities where they work or that Pleasanton was a bedroom community itself with virtually no jobs 25 years ago.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jun 24, 2009 at 2:46 pm

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Another thought, whats the average percentage of workers that live outside of the cities they work in and what's the difference with that and Pleasanton's 79%?


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Posted by Parent of Two
a resident of Val Vista
on Jun 24, 2009 at 2:54 pm

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Well, I hope all you liberals are happy with your idiotic choice for Attorney General. Anyone that voted for this flaky hippie should have their voting rights rescinded for their ignorance.

It was only a matter of time before his far-left lunacy invaded our peaceful little town. Like Pleasanton is solely responsible for the idiots who bought houses in Brentwood when they worked in Silicon Valley...

Anyone who knew his background and left-wing philosophies should have known that law enforcement wouldn't be his priority (even if it's the Attorney General's JOB), and it would be social engineering. Now, he's trying to force us to put up low-cost housing so that our crime rate can more closely approximate Oakland's, which, not coincidentally, was the city that he ran even deeper into the gutter as mayor.


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Posted by Oh, Edmund
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 24, 2009 at 3:06 pm

Edmund? Not you again. And now you are considering running for Govenor. So sad. SO SCARY.

I not only can't believe this yay-hoo filed this suit, I really can't believe there is a state law to justify it.

I read the complaint and the letters and it is crazy.

The only thing crazier is the fine for not sorting garbage correctly in the three bins. At least that is in SF...for now.

I am tired of this slow encroachment of the state of CA on our lives. Their hands around my neck are slowing my breathing!!

PLEASE can we get some sanity back into our state!!!

Is there any way out of this disaster of the liberal proportion?

By the way, anyone else hear about the household energy tax being voted on by the US congress on Friday? Yeah, great. Another tax. Sc*@# You politicians!


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Posted by Julie
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 24, 2009 at 4:06 pm

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This seems odd to me too. Historically Silicon Valley has not had very affordable housing & so as someone pointed out, those workers commute from as far away as Brentwood (or beyond). I'm sure a fair share commute to San Francisco as well. I bet some chose communities beyond ours because they could not afford Pleasanton (at least that is the feedback I've heard from those who live in Tracy and beyond). And yes, there is BART here...perhaps more people should be commuting on that.


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 24, 2009 at 4:23 pm

Well, he is not getting my vote. The scary part is only Jerry Brown and the SF mayor are unning for the democrat governor nomination.

Time to vote republican again? Scary, but Brown is out of line.

Is he going to give Pleasanton the necessary money for the extra residents that would live here without a housing cap? (schools, etc)

Many people, even living in Pleasanton, commute. His argument is not logical and will hurt our community. We are in a recession, and Brown puts pressure on Pleasanton to spend money in a legal defense?

Not someone we want as governor, that is for sure.


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Posted by The Browser
a resident of Del Prado
on Jun 24, 2009 at 7:52 pm

HEY! Lets hear from all of you Obama liberal Democrats out there. Isn't Attorney General "Moon Beam" part of your coalition, isn't this waht you all voted for. A few weeks ago during the Measure G debate you were all pushing property values, well what do you think low cost housing will do to your precious propert values now. COME ON, GET THOSE LIBERAL LIPS FLAPPING !


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Posted by Stu Gazzo
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 24, 2009 at 8:21 pm

Liberal lips can't flap against one of their own. Very strange coalition, is it not ?


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Posted by Yo Browser
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 24, 2009 at 8:22 pm

I'm for this. It sounds good to me. San Ramon is doing just fine without a cap. Looks like highly educated people are moving in and they approved their parcel tax. I say -- way to go San Ramon. Property values are doing just fine there.

Obama is cleaning up the mess left by George Bush and the de-regulating repubs in congress. They destroy the economy then help out only the rich. Obama has a big job ahead.

Look I'm not saying all you right wingers are crazy, just misguided. What you crazy right wingers don't understand is that it is time to move on. You lost and you lost big time. There's plenty of room in Beaumont Texas. You'll be happier there.


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Posted by The Browser
a resident of Del Prado
on Jun 24, 2009 at 8:31 pm

Hey, YoBrowser, I'm not going anywhere, dipwad, and if that's the best you got, aw hell you aint even worth it. If you think Bush caused this, then you need to educate yourself. The seeds were planted by Clinton and Barney Frank. Read the 1999 New York Times article that reveals the true cause of the Fannie Mae crisis. I'm too misguided to give you the link but I'm sure you can find it yourself. Just look beyond your lips.


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Posted by Big Poppa
a resident of Del Prado
on Jun 24, 2009 at 8:43 pm

Ahhhhhh, the looney left at its finest. They have screwed the one great state of California now they're gonna kill America with their sacked out mis-guided ideas/efforts to make their utopia. What a bunch of IDIOTS.


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Posted by Yo Browser
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 24, 2009 at 9:04 pm

What a joke. Fannie Mae crisis? Is that all right wing nuts have? That was only a small part of the picture and would have been just a minor problem. Phil Gramm's "clarification" of credit default swaps as insurance and not side bets brought the economy to its knees. Look, even some right wingers understand this:

Web Link

There's a lot more to the story than you hear on Mark Levin's radio show. He's happy to tell you about the evil CRA and Fannie and Freddie, but not a whole lot about derivatives.

Web Link

Bush tells us all along we have to trust the free market, and then when his friends get in trouble we have to bail them out with tax money. He tells us we have to abandon capitalism to save it. Sarah Palin famously agrees that she supports the bailout, but can't explain why.

Republicans stand for nothing now. They can be defined as:

Long version -- Welfare for the rich
Short version -- Loser


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Posted by The Browser
a resident of Del Prado
on Jun 24, 2009 at 10:22 pm

Come on, Matthew Philips-you mean the guy who writes about video games and anything thing else they assign him to, ya he really knows economics and business. Ben Stein-nobody has taken him seriously since he went on record as saying that the sub-prime mess was blown out of proportion. COME ON YOU GOTTA FLAP THOSE LIPS BETTER THAN THAT!


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Posted by Yo
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 24, 2009 at 10:46 pm

Hey "Yo Browser" -

You epitomize the famous statement that liberalism is a mental disorder. Keep chasing your tail thinking you'll find your brain. How's it working for you?

Yeah, your values look great all over California, nut job. Wise up, moron.


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Posted by Yo Browser
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 25, 2009 at 7:21 am

Do you know what a Credit Default Swap is? Look it up. Read about leverage. Even Michael Savage understands that. Do you know who Phil Gramm is? Got anything specific to say? I was expecting better from you.


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Posted by Julie
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 25, 2009 at 8:10 am

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Actually, you have to go beyond Clinton to see the roots of some of our current evils...try Reagan.

Why do some of you have to turn every thread into an attack on one side or the other? You cause the side you are attacking to become defensive and to respond in kind and then it just spirals. The focus comes off of Pleasanton (or whatever the original issue was) and becomes about you and your anger. The next thread I see where conservatives are crying "foul" at "liberal" comments, I'll be sure to direct them here where a bunch of their own started the attacks.


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Posted by Martin
a resident of Amador Estates
on Jun 25, 2009 at 8:48 am

I don't understand the problem of uncapping housing limits. It's a rather normal requirement placed on all growth initiatives from developers to regional governments. I think the problem has more to do with the somewhat arcane rationale Brown uses(Armageddon is occurring without caps?) I think not. But, the right sure reflects a sad persona with name calling and arguments like "the poor are coming to our home town to invade us with crime like Oakland". Sounds like "racist" arguments of the Old South. The left in California have always been considered kooks (remember the beatniks). But, I've got to hand it to the right, they sure know how to dumb-down a logical argument. Stay on point: It's a comparative analysis among other districts and cities and progressive cap allotments


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