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What are you doing Tuesday, June 2nd?

Original post made by Wow, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on May 30, 2009

In an effort to lighten up the mood...

If you haven't already voted by mail ballot, please describe what you are doing on Tuesday to make your voting experience extra special?

My family will be up late Monday night in our garage quietly "decorating" our family's car in let's just say, "float-like garb".

We plan to be seen AND heard as we roll up to the voting location Tuesday. We'll be sure to "observe" the neccessary distance rule, so as not to influence voters.

No, we plan to "influence" voters in our neighborhood as we take the long route to the polling place this Tuesday.

There will be NO doubt as to which way we are voting...

Don't worry, you can't miss us!

Maybe we'll make the PW! :)

See YOU at the polls!

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Posted by No on G
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 30, 2009 at 10:19 pm

We should have a No on G parade down on Main Street to kick off the morning! :)

Or at the very least a party on Main that night to celebrate it's defeat!

I wish I had the address and phone numbers of everyone that has called or "visited" me at my house to "discuss" the issue...I would call them on Tuesday night to gloat!!

Thanks for elevating the tone!

No on G


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Posted by Jerry
a resident of Oak Hill
on May 30, 2009 at 11:00 pm

What am I doing Tuesday, June 2nd???

Well, I plan to spring out of bed as the sun is rising, have a leisurely breakfast, read the local paper, then later stroll to the polling place and vote... After I've accomplished that, I'm not sure what I'll do... Maybe go fishing...

By the way, I lied!!! I'm to damn old to "spring out of bed"... I gingerly roll out of bed now days...


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Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on May 30, 2009 at 11:19 pm

Apparantly I'll be laying down some spike strips in your neighborhood.

Ha ha.....just trying to keep with the theme of lightening up the mood.

In all honesty I'll be at work earning my reduced salary after two rounds of layoffs and planning on what I'll be doing during my mandatory five day non-paid shutdown this quarter. I can tell you I won't be driving around town trying to influence others to vote for my raise under the guise of it being in the best interest of the children.


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Posted by Another Pleasanton parent
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 30, 2009 at 11:46 pm

I will be @ work (only round 1 of layoffs for my company) and already voted NO by absentee ballot.

I won't gloat because that serves no good and appears malicious (although I hope you don't mean to be so)

Decorating a car up to parade downtown sounds a bit childish to me. I prefer to behave like an adult

What impressed me most about the NO people is that they seemed to use their heads not their emotions to make their point.

I am hopeful many more will continue to do so.


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Posted by Another Perspective
a resident of West of Foothill
on May 31, 2009 at 1:05 pm

Maybe I will be waking up on Wednesday with a renewed sense of optimism and commitment about my job - teaching your kids. Or, maybe I will feel that the community really does feel about us the way that the icky bloggers do. That will in all likeliness change how I feel about my job and how I perceive your kids.


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Posted by Just an RN
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 31, 2009 at 1:40 pm

Dear "Another Perspective: Saying "That will in all likeliness change how I feel about my job and how I perceive your kids. "

I am a RN. Not every patient or family member appreciates what we do. Many families perceive the health profession poorly (although I think in most cases it is their fear that drives that perception)

None the less, it NEVER alters the way I see my job or those who have been rendered to my care. Nor is the care I deliver to the patient(in your case, you are rendered the care of our "kids") ever compromised. What I do is based on what I was EDUCATED to do not on how I am perceived.

Teachers like you do a great, great disservice to the profession by your words. You choose to let how people perceive you determine how you behave opposed to letting the principles and core beliefs of your profession direct how you will behave. The kids you most likely teach, because of their of immaturity, often let "perception" frame who they are. You are an adult (and an educated one at that). As difficult as it may be, you need to behave as one!

BTW, my nursing hours were recently reduced. I now work 12hrs less/week. My patients, on the other hand, still get the very best care I am able to deliver despite my reduction in hours (and money). Nurses who have retired have not been replaced. We all have more on our plate. Yet, about every nurse I know still remains DEDICATED to her patient. WE remain an advocate for those we care, opposed to "changing" how we see them as you suggest you might do if Measure G fails to pass.

I am voting No on the parcel tax but to suggest my no vote is how I perceive you as the teacher of our "kids" is all wrong. In fact, it shows lack of understanding of the real problem.

You think this vote is all about YOU. It's not. Is you ego so big that you are unable to do that???

What you just wrote in this post far more dictates how I may perceive you than any vote cast. I am glad I do not know who you are. I will remain optimistic in that I hope you are an EXCEPTION vs the NORM!



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Posted by Just a friend to RN
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 31, 2009 at 2:01 pm

Just an RN...

I applaud you. I recently had family members hospitalized and the doctors breezed through once a day, maybe twice, but rarely more than once. It was the blessed nurses that cared for my family when I could not. They were amazing.

They worked 7-7 and maintained charts and took care of far more than giving medicine. I didn't see lunch breaks, etc. They were amazing. One nurse I literally wanted to befriend because she was such an amazing person!

I have a friend who is a speech therapist in the schools and she is amazing too!

She manages to see about 80 kids multiple times a week, goes to meetings constantly, has to write reports at home, calls parents in the evenings to discuss things, and helps kids who don't even qualify for her program because she knows they need help. She doesn't get a "prep" time, and her dedication is amazing. She has far greater training than a teacher, but gets paid the same (they have to have a Masters AND a credential to work). She is professional in spite of the daunting challenges of her job. She doesn't get any parental support or "volunteers" because everyone focuses on the classroom teacher, and she has to create all her therapy idea with most of her own money. The budgets they get is used up by the tests she uses.

The point is, that even when times are good, there are people that are challenged in thier jobs. I've never heard my friend once complain, even when I have said to her that her job sounds so tough. She always has replied, "I just love the kids, and I love to help them and thier families."

I am shocked by the post from the teacher above. I can only hope it is someone that doesn't really teach, but someone that wants people to feel guilty if we don't vote for G.

Thank you for what you do, RN, you have the best story of true dedication.


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Posted by Another Perspective
a resident of West of Foothill
on May 31, 2009 at 3:14 pm

Oh believe me, I do teach in this district.

And hooray for you RN that you give your best to your patients no matter what they do to you. You are not speaking for all in your profession. I have dealt with many a crappy, stupid and unprofessional nurse. Thanks to your unions they still have jobs.

I did not make this about me.
The hopeless jerks on this blog did.

I will be employed here for many years to come measure G or no.
Support your schools, they are here for your kids. If I had any way to support nurses I certainly would, but that's out of my hands. You have to fight somewhere else for that.

I am just so sick of the "poor me" my hours got cut so you need to suffer too. It's juvenile. We will go on with or without G, you are all fools though if you really think the quality would be the same.

Cut back hours on nurses you get crappy service, cut back on education and overcrowd these classrooms and you too will see some interesting results. If you are saying RN that the cutbacks did not result in a change in service level then you are saying that you were not really needed for all those hours. If that's the case the business people in charge made a smart choice.


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Posted by Just a friend to RN
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 31, 2009 at 3:21 pm

Another perspective,

I've been reading the posts in this forum for some time now. There have been some juvenile posts, a few that were challenging to others, but I'd have to say, you are the only one sounding like a "hopeless jerk" on this forum (using your words).

Good day.


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Posted by Caution
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on May 31, 2009 at 3:32 pm

Another Perspective, please identify yourself. You sound like a danger to our kids and yourself. Since you have been employed in the PUSD for "so many years" you might consider its time for you to retire. You sound like you got a lot rage inside you that you can't cope with or deal with." Having absolutely no control over how people will vote is getting to you. Your post is a WARNING SIGNAL ALERT: potential physical or psychological trauma brewing. I bet you are one of those teachers that parents try to get their kids out of your classroom regardless what level you teach (did say teach???)

Remove yourself from the classroom for the sake of the children (and yourself)


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Posted by Wondering
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 31, 2009 at 3:52 pm

"If I had any way to support nurses I certainly would, but that's out of my hands. You have to fight somewhere else for that"

I didn't read any comments on this blog where anyone was asking anyone to support nurses? Did I miss something?

"I am just so sick of the "poor me" my hours got cut so you need to suffer too. "

I didn't read any comments on this blog where anyone was saying "poor me" ..."you need to suffer to". Did I miss something?


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Posted by another teacher
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 31, 2009 at 6:03 pm

I don't want to sound like a doom and gloomer, but I just think no matter what happens Tuesday there won't be a reason to "celebrate". Our $9.7 million problem is now $18.6. Some of this will be offset by federal money, but we don't know how much since the state screwed up in a huge way.

So, if the parcel tax passes I see myself sighing slightly with relief but recognizing that cuts are still on the way (meaning cuts to programs that effect my child, cuts to my pay, and the loss of a number of my friends' jobs).

If it doesn't pass, these cuts will be SEVERE.

It's two scenarios with one being horrendous and the other being just bad!

As for the teacher above, I recognize that he/she comes across like a bitter person and that puts off others like RN. I think we are all just very frustrated by the entire situation. Good teachers who are our friends are being let go. Our union is not as responsive as we'd like. It feels very much like the community has made us the scapegoat in a situation that we didn't create or see coming (believe it or not, most of us just focus our energies on the day-to-day of doing our jobs and I'd be willing to bet the 95% of us had NO idea that S & C was additive ... even up to the point where we voted on the furlough days).

As for me, I just want to be a part of the solution! It seems that so much reform needs to happen before this can be fixed - not just with the district, but with the state, with my union, AND with the community. All of these parties who are acting in their own self-interest need to change their perspectives and look to the common good. Teachers are part of that equation, but it really does take a village! Can it happen? I hope so.


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Posted by Sunshine Lover
a resident of Ruby Hill
on May 31, 2009 at 6:27 pm

Another teacher,
I don't blame the teachers for what is going on in our community.
I don't think the parcel tax offers long term solutions, and I am going to vote no on Tuesday.


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Posted by Right on...
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 31, 2009 at 6:50 pm

Teacher's are being scapegoated in all of this. We were not asked by our union if we would be willing to take a pay cut; we were not asked by our union for potential solutions; we were not asked by the district or the community what type of solutions we have for this crisis; we are just blamed by many for the failures of the state's inabilities to think long-term and the district's inability to make more "real cuts" outside of the classroom. No matter what, I do not know of any teachers who will be spiteful and seeking revenge. This is part of life and our economic circumstances. We went through this in the late 1970's, the early 1990's and now. We will survive, but we must ALL come up with substantive solutions rather than blame teacher's who truly have very little power. PLEASE stop the scapegoating, and use this blog to come up with real solutions???


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Posted by Theresa
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 31, 2009 at 8:47 pm

Another Teacher: :

I agree with Sunshine Lover.


Right on: You made good points in the middle of your post but saying that teachers are being scapegoated at the begining and again end of your comment diluted your argument for real solutions.

I don't see Teachers as the problem and I don't think they are being scapegoated.

I also agree with an earlier post that some teachers see this vote as a statement on them. I don't think all do, but I think some do.


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Posted by Gary
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 31, 2009 at 8:56 pm

Vote YES on G because it's the right thing to do, period.


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Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on May 31, 2009 at 9:02 pm

Gary -

Vote No on G because its the ethically sound, fiscally responsible, and forces an equitable long term solution to the districts financial trouble, exclamation point.


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Posted by unclehomerr..
a resident of Downtown
on May 31, 2009 at 9:10 pm


Just an RN.

I hope you're a Kaiser nurse and if I were hospitalized I'd be honored to have you on my care team.

Another teacher.. why don't you do the profession and the district a favor and resign. Now. You'll sleep better.

At the very least, tell a counselor how you feel. 72hrs with a good psych nurse would do you wonders! Or perhaps a cranial removal proctological specialist...

unclehomerr..


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Posted by Wow
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 31, 2009 at 10:23 pm

I sure picked a great post name! WOW is how I feel after writing this post.

If you read the first sentence of my post, I was trying to lighten the mood a bit - and I intended my "No" vote to be obvious when I said, "There will be NO doubt as to which way we are voting..." Get it? Capital letters spelling N-O...means NO? Anywho...

Sorry some of us got wrapped up in another mud sling.

I will definitely be voting NO and hoping the rest of you will too. The problem is that the blame needs to lie squarely where it belongs and that is on all of us.

1. The district has a major portion of this humble pie to eat: They have not made financially wise decisions for some time and it has become illuminated only after the flood light of the state revenue cuts.

2. The Union has another chunk of this pie to gulp down because they have lobbied for ridiculous raises and retirement packages at the expense of some of thier member's jobs now.

3. The Board has to pick up thier forks and start eating because where has thier oversight been? Do they just let Casey pull them around with a nose ring for sport or did they actually intend on overseeing the financial solvency of this district?

5. The community. We as parents and also tax payers have not been keeping our eye on the ball. We've enjoyed feeling good about the test scores and the community at large - feeling a bit sheltered from a lot of what other communities deal with in large part because of the property taxes we pay.

Unfortuneately, we all have a bitter pill to swallow. We can't solve this crisis until someone agrees to do so and I place that responsibility at the district. Then the Union and the Board, then the community.

We should see what cuts can reasonably be made to non-educational items, see what the outstanding balance is, in an itemized fashion, ask the Union to freeze or cut salaries, look at the outstanding balance to programs if there is one, have the Board connect with the community over what programs are priority one and delineate out the programs with the existing funding. After all this has been done, then the existing programs that are not funded, should be brought before the community to determine if we want to pay a parcel tax at that point for the programs left. It may be a majority of programs or it may be a few. Until we go through this process in an appropriate fashion, little will get accomplished, save one thing: the further deterioration of the relationship between neighbors, students, families and teachers.

We can do this, but we need to aim high and accurately.




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Posted by Wow
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 31, 2009 at 10:24 pm

Meant to say "after reading this post" in my first sentence...


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Posted by another teacher
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 31, 2009 at 10:49 pm

unclehommer...

Another teacher.. why don't you do the profession and the district a favor and resign. Now. You'll sleep better.

At the very least, tell a counselor how you feel. 72hrs with a good psych nurse would do you wonders! Or perhaps a cranial removal proctological specialist...



Really not sure what I said that should've elicited such a nasty response. It seems that you are the one that needs counseling... or anger management? Sheesh!


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Posted by not a fan
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 31, 2009 at 10:57 pm

"another teacher"

Unclehomerr is correct. He sounds like anyone in this community would after reading your post. Seek help as soon as possible, you've got a real problem. Your first step is to recognize it.

Good luck!


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Posted by Another teacher
a resident of West of Foothill
on May 31, 2009 at 11:11 pm

I will ID myself as soon as you do. That would be great because then I would know who your kids are. Bwahhhaahha

I sleep fine thanks. And, I have no intention of resigning! Are you freaking kidding? Do you know how easy this job is and how much more job security I have than any of you fools?

Seriously, I am not even a teacher. Just a bored person having some fun messing with y'all. I like that you fall for it and get all mean. It's funny.

Nighty night.


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Posted by MoneyLover
a resident of Bonde Ranch
on May 31, 2009 at 11:15 pm

Unclehomerr is my pimp!

Vote NO NO NO NO NO NO on G.


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Posted by another teacher
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 1, 2009 at 6:24 am

Readers who are trying to make sense of this:

Another teacher from another Pleasanton neighborhood was me. I think I wrote a civil, reasonable post that recognized that teachers also need to take cuts. Then crazy uncle homer responded with an extremely rude personal attack.

Another teacher from West Foothill is most likely UncleHomerr posing as a teacher to make us look bad.


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Posted by unclehomerr..
a resident of Downtown
on Jun 1, 2009 at 7:45 am


For the record.. I've never posted under any other name/handle or from and other neighborhood.

unclehomerr.. - downtown

..and, another teacher - Call CTA and put in your papers. The kids don't need you.


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Posted by Sunshine Lover
a resident of Ruby Hill
on Jun 1, 2009 at 10:27 am

Right on,
It's a shame that the union didn't ask the teachers what they thought could be done to resolve the budget crisis. Many teachers are married to people who work in the private sector so they know how hard it is for everyone in this economy. There are lots of very smart people teaching in our schools. I bet they could have come up with some solutions if they had been asked. I think they even would have agreed to an across the board salary cut so they could have saved every teaching job.
I'm opposed to G, but not because I think teachers are greedy or bad or anything like that. G doesn't offer any long term solutions and if it passes, I expect that in a few years, the district will ask for the tax to be renewed at a higher rate.
I also think that many of the people who post on these blogs post outrageous comments to get everyone riled up - or to make one side or the other look bad.


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Posted by Parent of Two
a resident of Val Vista
on Jun 1, 2009 at 4:12 pm

Parent of Two is a registered user.

It seems odd that teachers are claiming to be "scapegoated" and (at least partially) blame their own union.

Uh, that would be the union that collects YOUR dues, that YOU supposedly direct with your input. This type of self-victimization is part of the problem. Rather than whining about your lot in life, FIX IT. Boot the union leadership! De-certify the union!

Oh, and look up "effect" and "affect". If you're teaching my kids grammar and vocabulary, I expect you to at least have a grasp of both.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 1, 2009 at 9:02 pm

The above posting reveals two of the problems as I see it.......teachers who have stayed in the district beyond their effectiveness and positive influence on in the educational process. They are in their job because they can't be fired. The second is that I believe there are good teachers in the system who would applaud being paid and respected because of the contribution they make in the education of our youth. Unfortunately they must be a member of the union whether they want to be or not. Isn't there something wrong with that?? Shouldn't people have a choice in whether they want to be a union member or not??? Shouldn't that be a constitutional right? The system is broken and I do not see Measure G fixing it. I also don't see that the language in Measure G safeguards anything. The language is much too loose. It is the wrong time and the wrong language to pass a parcel tax. VOTE NO


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