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So what do you think about your new garbage bill and options?

Original post made by Oscar the Grouch, Parkside, on May 29, 2009

So if you have read your garbage bill you know what is happening. If not cost is going up and cans are getting smaller, with an additional recyling can. As you already may know P.Garbage currently recycles for us.
Garbage companies are monopolies. The only thing that can be done is start a new one…impossible. Force the PG to split into two competing companies, and police collusion. Buy a trailer and dump your garbage in Livermore or even at PG and see if that's cheaper…nope. Or get someone else in here to do the job. Who's in charge of getting a competing company into town? Probably friends with the M&M families that own the dump.
So an old story for new to Pleasanton folks. (Abbreviated story). The gov. said reduce trash or be forced to not get a large sum of money. PG decided to run trash over a conveyor and pull recyclables to meet the demanded reduction. Why not have us recycle or encourage it in any way? They receive the money for the recyclables for virtually free for what they pay the conveyor workers. Win/win for them. Now they want us to separate it for them and raise cost? Recycling cans should be included with a price reduction. They have turned this old story into a Win/Win/Win again.

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Posted by Citizen
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 1, 2009 at 9:19 pm

I am appalled that the city council approved this garbage program. I do NOT want another can in my yard....and I sure as heck do NOT want to pay more for less. Who does the garbage company know on the city council to get this ludricrous program approved. Wasn't it not long ago that articles were written in the paper about barges loaded with recyclables sitting outside ports because they had nowhere to put the recyclables. Basically nobody would buy them. Isn't it also interesting that you can't get two 35 gallon bins for a cheaper rate. Why is that? I am a single resident. How am I ever going to fill a 96 gallon bin every week with recyclables? Ludicrous.


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Posted by Oscar the Grouch
a resident of Parkside
on Jun 1, 2009 at 10:40 pm

(Comment removed by Pleasanton Weekly Online staff as innuendo, hearsay or specific accusatory information unsupported by facts.)


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Posted by Another Gatetree Resident
a resident of Pleasanton Valley
on Jun 2, 2009 at 6:08 am

The first comment I have on the notification of the options is this -- The brochure was unclear and still required a call to Pleasanton Garbage to confirm it was being read correctly.

The second comment involves the recycling angle? Isn't there a sort system in place? Didn't one of the local papers some years back run an article on how someone with no sense of smell had found their perfect job -- Sorting materials that can be recycled from the trash brought into Pleasanton Garbage! Wasn't the investment in THAT program touted as a win-win and hasn't it been reported our city has one of the highest capture rates due to the methods used? What happened there?

Third, this new program actually puts another truck rolling our streets. One for garbage, one for green waste, and now one for recycled materials. Tell me how that is good for the environment, let alone good for our city streets?

I say we all mess with them and use the containers inappropriately. Green waste can go in recycle, trash in green waste, and use the regular trash bin for everything that can be recycled. This could be fun!


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Posted by Oscar the Grouch
a resident of Parkside
on Jun 2, 2009 at 9:17 am

My comments got pulled because I named the owners of the P Town garbage company. If you want to know who they are you can find out from another source. I guess here they are the Wizards of Oz and should not be seen from behind the curtain. So here's a link to their website where they name their own names and explain their history here in Pleasanton. Web Link
The only other thing I said was they are making money hand over fist. Very offensive, huh?


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Posted by Resident
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on Jun 14, 2009 at 6:37 pm

Has anyone in the city council thought what it will be like to have 3 LARGE bins spread APPROPRIATELY (as defined by Pleasanton Garbage) across one's driveway? How are you supposed to get your cars out of the garage to go to work to pay for all the extra fees now imposed? There is certainly no room in my driveway to do such and my driveway is not as small as some. I do not want another LARGE bin in my yard either. This is ridiculous. Other communities do just fine with recycle bags if they choose to recycle. In fact the town I grew up in has just as many residents as Pleasanton and they continue to collect ANYTHING put out as trash - by hand - and it doesn't cost the residents anything. It's included in their taxes.


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Posted by not complying
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 14, 2009 at 10:15 pm

I'm not going to participate in this program since no one on the Council decided it was important to consult me, the idiot that will pay for it! I am going to take the extra can, and use it up as usual! :) No sorting. I guess that is what my extra money will go towards...their sorting of all my extra trash. I think I'll switch to more styrofoam products this week...

And if they ask, I'll just say I don't speak English!


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Jun 15, 2009 at 7:16 am

Stacey is a registered user.

Resident,

Switch to the smaller 35-gal bin. Then you'll only have one LARGE bin, one MEDIUM bin, and one SMALL bin.


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Posted by Stop Complaining
a resident of Livermore
on Jun 15, 2009 at 9:34 am

I can't believe I am reading so many complaints about separating your trash into different cans. It's time to get over it. Livermore has been doing this for several years now and all the things I am reading about is nonsense. Yes, it takes a few extra minutes to put 3 cans out instead of 1. The green waste doesn't usually go out every week. Our family of 4 gets by just fine with the small can because we do save our own cans to cash them in and save the money ourselves. Then we takes the kids to the movies as a reward.
I always thought it was gross to pay someone to sort out Pleasanton's garbage from a conveyor belt. It's time for everyone to take responsibility for their own garbage. Stop being so snobby about it and grow up Pleasanton!


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Posted by Billie
a resident of Mohr Park
on Jun 15, 2009 at 11:12 am

Part of the problem is that in Livermore, as well as in the surrounding communities that provide curbside recycling, you have a choice of can size. My understanding is that you can mix and match the trash and recycle cart sizes.

For example, the Livermore residential options are:
20 gallon cart 9.52 1 cart Curbside
30-36 gallon cart 15.89 1 cart Curbside
30-36 gallon cart 26.07 1 cart Backyard/ Sideyard Service
60-66 gallon cart 34.93 1 cart Curbside
60-66 gallon cart 55.27 1 cart Backyard/ Sideyard Service
90-96 gallon cart 57.96 1 cart Curbside
90-96 gallon cart 88.46 1 cart Backyard/ Sideyard Service
Web Link

In Pleasanton, we have a choice of either of two sets of cans: 1) a 35-gallon trash cart and a 96-gallon recycle cart ($29.13/month), or 2) a 96-gallon trash and a 96-gallon recycle cart (34.57/month). Note that our 35-gallon size subsidizes the larger size cart, making the 96-gallon size very competitive with not just Livermore, but the surrounding communities as well.

While I do not understand why blue bag recycling was not promoted more effectively, I will continue to recycle with the new plan. FYI "Not Complying", if you don't sort your recyclables, they won't get sorted or recycled, so that's really not a solution to the issue. One of the problems for many of us is where to put another cart - especially a large one.

The following is a copy of what I wrote in another thread for those of us who want/need smaller carts for both trash and recycle. If you make the request, remember to include both your name and address.
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Good news for some of us:

According to Steve Bocian, Assistant City Manager, "the new curbside recycling program will include accommodations for smaller carts for residents whose property cannot accommodate the third container or for the disabled and/or seniors who cannot handle a larger cart". He will put your name and address on a list of those requesting a smaller 35-gallon recycling cart to be delivered in October when the new plan begins - but you have to ask.

Steve's e-mail:
<SBocian@ci.pleasanton.ca.us>


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Posted by Stop Complaining
a resident of Livermore
on Jun 15, 2009 at 1:04 pm

The residents of Livermore all have 3 carts. We do not mix and match the size of our green waste or recycle waste cans, I believe they are both 96 gallons. The choice we have is the size of the regular trash. As I stated, our family does just fine with the 20 gallon size. We find that most of the bulky items most families throw away are packaging and cardboard which goes in the recycling can. The most difficult thing for our teens to remember is the pizza boxes go in the green waste since they are a food soaked item and will compost.

It does take some re-training of "old habits", but well worth it for our planet and for our children.


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Posted by Jennifer
a resident of Danbury Park
on Jun 15, 2009 at 1:17 pm

Not even going to make an attempt at this. They want to charge me more fine. I was recycling but no more they can do it if they see fit.


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Posted by Not complying
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Jun 15, 2009 at 1:46 pm

Jennifer,

My new BFF! I read your posts here and there and always agree with you!

Thanks for posting your point of view...they are always spot-on!


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Posted by Oscar the Grouch
a resident of Parkside
on Jun 19, 2009 at 12:49 am

Stop Complaining - Your concern for the workers is admirable but here's the catch. It provides jobs to thoses that have few options so they don't want your pity they want a job. Secondly and more importantly they still will be working the belts, to sort the recyclables. They don't just take everything and make a brick of glass, cans, paper, etc.


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