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Good to Great - In our Schools

Original post made by What Makes Great, Amador Valley High School, on May 25, 2009

Several times, School Board Member Chris Grant has referenced the book "Good to Great" when talking about what we need to do for our schools. I wonder if he has actually read the book or is just quoting the title. There are several interesting things in this book that the school district should think about:

1) The book states the most important thing to change from "good" to "great" is to have the right leaders on the train. This means you will probably have to let go of many on your leadership team as many were part of "good" and do not have what it takes to be great. If they did, you would already be great.

2) As important as a "to do" list is a "to not do list". You need to make decisions on what you are not going to spend any time on. The point is to be great you can't just add things to what you already do. You need to keep what you are great at and stop the other things. It seems the district is only interested in adding things, not removing things (this is typical of government). We have not questioned anything in our district as really being valuable and a return to our kids education. The district is just interested in getting more money to start new things as evident in the Excellence Committee, of which Chris Grant was a member of (and a committee controlled by district staff).

3) The management staff should not have any perks that the "rank and file" staff does not have. That means the management team should get rid of their car allowances and cell phones, and even give back any interest-free loans/perks.

4) When times are challenging, the management team should be the leader by taking pay cuts. By the management team taking pay cuts, and it has to be more than the rest of staff, they are being leaders by example. It is typically the management staff that makes more money then the rest of the employees so that is another reason. A "great" management team has a vision of the future and is excited about it, therefore they are willing to take a hit in the short term.

Nowhere in the book does it say you should raise income (raising prices or taxes), take out loans,etc. to get to your goal. The strategy of "raising prices" does not appear at all in the book.


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Posted by Parent
a resident of Castlewood
on May 25, 2009 at 6:09 pm

The management team has already taken pay cuts, and given up cell phone and car allowances.Now it's time for the community to step up!


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Posted by resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 25, 2009 at 6:26 pm

You must be talking about some other district, because there have been no meaningful consessions from PUSD administration staff. Or perhaps just lying for "the cause"? Union, yes, eh?


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Posted by unclehomerr..
a resident of Downtown
on May 25, 2009 at 6:28 pm


How many have been let go or laid off?? Yeah, I thought so.

There aren't nearly enough cellphones or car allowances to begin to cover this... and, cup your hand behind your ear and hush a minute. Listen.. that's the sound of the community "stepping up".. in 20 column lock-step!

unclehomerr..


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Posted by justwondering
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 25, 2009 at 6:29 pm

How does the parcel tax work for children attending PUSD that don't live in Pleasanton city limits? For example, Castlewood, Sunol, etc?

If people living outside the city limits don't have to pay the parcel tax if it passes, then I think they should stay out of the debate on the pros/cons of Measure G.


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Posted by What Makes Great
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on May 25, 2009 at 6:47 pm

Parent, the management team has not made any concessions yet. They said they will make a 1% concession for next year, only if the parcel tax passes. Actually it is not a concession in pay but rather less working days. Our management team only works about 215 days per year, or the equivalent of 9 weeks off per year and many have salaries near $200K! Our superintendent makes over $200K per year with 8 or 9 weeks off. He will not make a concession in his pay at all since I heard he plans to retire in about a year and wants his salary as high as possible at the end so he has a higher retirement pay. I can understand our teachers taking the summer off to refresh but the management team having all this time off is incredible. My guess is if the management team only had 3 - 4 weeks off, even liberal for the private sector, they can probably get away with less managers

To justwondering, Castlewood is in the PUSD boundaries so they can vote and pay the tax. Don't know about Sunol but I don't think they can vote or have to pay. Sunol has their own school district but they send their kids to PUSD for high school. There is a neighborhood in Ruby Hill that is technically in Livermore School district but the kids there go to PUSD through an arrangement. I have seen that neighborhood recently and they have some "Yes on G" signs. Of course you see them there because they go to PUSD school but they will never have to pay the tax; they are just moochers here.


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Posted by 15 years of work
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 25, 2009 at 7:14 pm

Other key concepts from the book:

* The Flywheel: The additive effect of many small initiatives; they act on each other like compound interest.

That means that you have to continue to invest in your hedgehog in numerous ways over a long period of time. Invest.

* Confront the Brutal Facts: The Stockdale paradox - Confront the brutal truth of the situation, yet at the same time, never give up hope.

Perhaps the toughest to implement.


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on May 25, 2009 at 7:17 pm

Parent, Those concessions are contingent on the parcel tax passing. When and if it doesn't, then what?


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Posted by What Makes Great
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on May 25, 2009 at 7:46 pm

Hi "15 years of work",

I think the problem with our district is it is a fox and not the hedgehog. Always trying a new scheme instead of simplifying.

You are right that the Stockdale paradox is tough to implement in this district. You need a culture that can accept the brutal truth. We have a culture of praise at the district (not your normal praise but sickening praise at each board meeting). The board or administration would never seem to say that what they thought was going to help education, did not. They would see that as failure as opposed to a learning experience. Great leadership would be able to cut something off that is not living up to the expectations. Cutting off, as described in the book, does not mean firing good people off but rather redirecting what they work on.


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Posted by Ken in South Pleasanton
a resident of Downtown
on May 26, 2009 at 8:53 am

to Parent in Castlewood,
Cell phones and car allowances sounds like something that would be meaningful to cut in your neighborhood. In my neighborhood, we question why they have those allowances in the first place.


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Posted by Michael
a resident of Livermore
on May 26, 2009 at 9:37 am

I cannot figure out what administrators should be given cell phones and cars to begin with? I thought they were supposed to be educating our kids not working up the next big deal.


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Posted by Sandy
a resident of Mohr Park
on May 26, 2009 at 9:57 am

I would not advocate cutting off all cell phones or mileage reimbursements.

Cell phones allow the principals, assistant principals, and custodians to communicate with one another in case of emergencies -- lockdowns on campus, for instance. They also allow anyone at the school to contact the principal or assistant principal immediately if they are not in their offices. For instance, if a student begins hitting another in a classroom and the teacher cannot separate them alone. Or if a student flees a classroom in tears. The teacher cannot pursue and leave the classroom unattended -- but someone has to locate the student.

They also allow the superintendent to communicate with principals directly. I believe that car allowances are given so that the superintendent and the assistant superintendent for business services can travel to different schools, and especially back and forth from Sacramento when they are needed there on official business.

I'm not clear on why they are "car allowances" rather than "mileage reimbursements". And I don't know who else has a car allowance, besides Casey.


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Posted by Ken in South Pleasanton
a resident of Downtown
on May 26, 2009 at 10:01 am

It really makes me respect and appreciate the education I received in California many years ago when such conveniences didn't exist. It seems that technology hasn't really enhanced the educational experience all that much.


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Posted by Michael
a resident of Livermore
on May 26, 2009 at 10:13 am

Sandy,

You make it sound a bit like a battle zone full of emergencies and lockdown type activity. If this is the case I suspect walkie talkies would be much better. I suspect that most of the bills for cell phone usage are for non emergency activities not as described above. Why do you suppose Casey get $1,000 per month for a car allowance if he lives in town? I am with Ken and also appreciate the efforts of my teachers who were able to provide for my education without cell phones and cars.


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Posted by Ann Martin
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on May 26, 2009 at 10:25 am

Sandy,
I requested a list of those PUSD employees who receive car allowances as well as the amount they receive. I did not get the amounts, but did get a list of those who receive car allowances.

They are:
Hubert Anton
Kathryn Benson
Sandra Betts
Rhea Brandon
Michele Brynjulson
Matthew Campbell
John Casey ($1,000/mo or $12,000 per year per contract)
Frank Castro
Luz Cazares ($600/mo or $7200 per year per contract)
Dana Chavez
Lisa Cheney
Terry Conde
Susan Connolly
William Coupe
Ralph Cruz
Gary Davila
Julie Duncan
John Dwyer
Maria Escobar
William Faraghan ($600/mo or $7200 per year per contract)
Carol Fernandez
Ben Fobert
Cindy Galbo ($600/mo or $7200 per year per contract)
Greg Giglio
Jane Golden
Richard Gorton
Ellen Gould
Myla Grasso
James Hansen
George Hefner
Barbara Heisser
Colleen Henry
Gary Hicklin
Diane Howell
Jorja Ivie
Adam Jennings
Kevin Johnson
Lauren Kelly
Michael Kuhfal
Larry Lagatta
Stephen Maher
Ron Mahler
Mark McCoy
Kim Michels
Robert Middleton
Jon Morgan
Esmeralda Moseley
Kim Ortiz
Dee Osborne
Carolyn Parker
Aileen Parsons
Leann Pomplun
Bill Radulovich
Jim Rallis
Kent Rezowalli
Kenneth Roch
Fred Rutledge
Marc Schweitzer
Robin Sehrt
Amy Simione
Rick Sira
Glen Sparks
Chris Tibbets
Lori Vella
Jon Vranesh
John Whitney
Charles Young

I have indicated in ( ) amounts that I haver verified by reviewing employment contracts.

I have asked PUSD for clarificaton of the car allowance policy because in addition to the car allowance, there has been reimbursement of mileage expenses for an administrator receiving a car allowance.

I hope this answers your question and that of others who have posted.


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Posted by Michael
a resident of Livermore
on May 26, 2009 at 10:31 am

Ann Martin,

Wow! Why do those other individuals on here get $600.00 a month? I had thought that the only one given a car allowance was Casey? Do you know what the circumstances are around the others getting car allowances of that amount?


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Posted by Ken in South Pleasanton
a resident of Downtown
on May 26, 2009 at 10:36 am

If each of them used that car allowance on a General Motors product, GM wouldn't be in the bind they are in right now. I think we've missed an opportunity here.


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Posted by why
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on May 26, 2009 at 10:45 am

why only point out the large car stipends? public records also show that all others are between 50 - 150 a month. seems a bit deceptive to only stress the largest 4. either way, measure G works for me.


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Posted by Michael
a resident of Livermore
on May 26, 2009 at 10:55 am

Why,

Does not really matter but if the info is available it should be posted. Seems odd that if we need all of these teachers they should be able to spend all of this time out of class driving around. Someone wrote earlier that Casey needs to go to Sacramento to represent us and if that is truly the case we need another guy because he is not cutting it.


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Posted by Ann Martin
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on May 26, 2009 at 10:57 am

Michael,
The individuals who get the $600/month car allowance are all assistant superintendents. I did not ask for copies of every asst. superintendent's contract and cannot say if other asst. superintendents receive the same monthly amount as those listed here.
The annual PUSD car allowance expense was $120,000 per year. My understanding is that PUSD is working on reducing this amount, but any reductions are contingent upon Measure G passing.
The others listed are school principals, assistant principals, administrative assistants, and other PUSD employees including those in child nutrition services, facilities, curriculum and adult ed.
I'm sorry, I only received the list and have no information regarding the cirucmstances under which individuals were given car allowances. Also, I apologize for the way the list got spaced on the blog. I didn't type it with those spaces, but when I pressed submit, that's how it appeared on the blog!
To my knowledge, the allowances are not part of an employee's salary and do not impact future retirement pay.
I hope this answers your question.

Ken, I don't know what kind of cars those who receive car allowances drive!


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Posted by Ann Martin
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on May 26, 2009 at 11:45 am

To Why:

I posted the monthly car allowances for indviduals whose contracts I have actually seen and therefore can feel confident that I am posting accurate information. If there is information on the PUSD website that indicates what the monthly car allowances are for the others on this list, please point me to that and I will update the list.

Meanwhile, I will gladly post the monthly car allowances for every other individual on the list when PUSD supplies me with this information. If you are able to get this information from PUSD more quickly than I can, great, please do, and share the information.

Regardless of individual amounts, the annual expense has been $120,000.


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Posted by Sandy
a resident of Mohr Park
on May 26, 2009 at 12:01 pm

Ann, thanks for the info. I share your puzzlement about car allowances PLUS mileage reimbursement.

Michael, perhaps walkie talkies would suffice within each school. I don't think they permit contact across schools -- do they? I'm not up to date on walkie-talkie technology.

Do you have to buy them new, or is there somewhere you can buy them used or lease them? Because getting rid of cellphones could certainly save money, but then getting new walkie talkies might be expensive.

Perhaps some walkie talkies and some cellphones might work. None, the way it was in "the old days", is not something I'm comfortable with. I may not be in the majority, I don't know.


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Posted by Motorola Man
a resident of Birdland
on May 26, 2009 at 12:24 pm

Commercial grade walkie talkies are quite expensive, having one in each classroom would probably be cost-prohibitive. And how many would have to be replaced each year?


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Posted by Michael
a resident of Livermore
on May 26, 2009 at 12:26 pm

Sandy and Ann,

You can get phones are walkie talkies which only work on the same channel but I guess my larger point here is that there seems to be no urgency to control costs at all and it needs to be done otherwise I believe we will lose confidence in PUSD


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Posted by Ann Martin
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on May 26, 2009 at 12:38 pm

The cell phones are another area where I hope PUSD can continue to make efforts to cut expenses. I do believe that it is necessary for some employees to have them - for example, the custodians, particularly those who are on duty at night.
But I don't know which PUSD employees have district issued cell phones - I asked for that information in April, but haven't yet received it.
Certainly, they are very handy, particularly in emergency situations, and now that I have one, wouldn't want to do without it.
But I would like to see the School Board review who has the phones to determine whether they are perks, or necessities, and then establish a written procedure limiting district issued cell phone use to district business.
I don't have a problem with necessary expenses - just want to see the school district cut any of the fat so there's more money available for the classrooms.
I find it very upsetting that teachers are paying for any classroom supplies out of their own pockets.


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Posted by Ann Martin
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on May 26, 2009 at 2:31 pm

Hi Sandy,
I just got an email from PUSD explaining when mileage reimbursement is allowed even when an administrator receives a car allowance.

First, let me just put down what's in an employment contract about transportation allowance, and I'll use Dr. Casey's which I think is also on the PUSD website so that others can easily verify the information:
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Superintendent shall receive One Thousand Dollars ($1,000) per month as reimbursement for the operation of his personal vehicle in furtherance of all school district business and related activities within Alameda and contiguous counties. (there's more, but this is the pertinent section)
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Consequently, even if a contracted employee receives a car allowance, that car allowance only applies to costs incurred when the vehicle is used in Alameda or adjacent counties. Travel beyond Alameda or adjacent counties, for example, to Sacramento, is not covered by the monthly car allowance.

So Sandy, that answers our question.


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Posted by curious
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 26, 2009 at 2:54 pm

Kathleen Ruegsegger...you work for Palo Alto Public School system in the administrative office; I believe as the secretary to the Superintendent (once to be Mary Frances Callen, our old supe; maybe still is). How much/many, if any, compensation(s) do you get? Have you accepted any pay cuts...yet?


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Posted by Mary
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on May 26, 2009 at 4:56 pm

Just wondering, doesn't giving up the Vice Principals at all the elementary schools count for anything in the administration department? Cell phones are not going to save this district, Vote Yes on Measure G and don't attack the students education with your issues about the administration.


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Posted by common sense
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 26, 2009 at 5:40 pm

Seems to me everyone who makes a comment on this topic has already made up their mind how they will vote. The best next step would be to determine in advance what the school district should do if and when the vote fails. The status quo is a thing of the past, lets all strive to make it a better future.


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on May 26, 2009 at 6:12 pm

Curious: I receive a yearly income (12 month employee, eligible for overtime) plus benefits*. I have not submitted overtime in my six years with the district. I have not taken benefits during my employment (six years*). (Actually, I didn't take benefits in Pleasanton either, but you are paid as part of your compensation.) I qualified this year for a longevity bonus. I am not a member of a union, nor am I a member of management (referred to as unrepresented). I do not have a district phone, but do use my personal phone without charging the district (primarily for texts); and do not receive district paid gas, a car allowance, or compensation for tolls. I have received mileage for trips to pick up people at the airport, though this is rare. *This year is the first year where an incentive (a fraction of the benefits cost) was paid for those opting out of the benefit plan. Dr. Callan retired. There was a year that employees were asked to take two unpaid days off during a budget crunch in order to save jobs; we agreed. Funding made the contribution unnecessary (this was not from a parcel tax, although the district has a parcel tax). There is no conversation about cuts this year, but I'd gladly step up again.


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Posted by Mary
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on May 26, 2009 at 6:54 pm

Ruegsegger, your credibility is history. You are a part of the problem not a soothsayer of righteousness. Vote yes on Measure "G"


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Posted by No on G
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 26, 2009 at 7:09 pm

Hi Kathleen,

While your last post on this thread was too detailed to appear suspect, would you mind using your registered user name when you post? I'm noticing a lot of "out of character" comments from posters saying they are Sandy and others by not using the registered name. I want to disregard what someone "posing" as you, or others, are saying.

Thank you for being so willing to be out in public with your opinion, using your real name in the posts, while the rest of us that have some fear of retribution to our family use a pseudonym.

Thank you!!


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on May 26, 2009 at 8:30 pm

Mary, Can you please state the reason I'm part of the problem and then how it makes sense to follow it with Yes on G (that is, were I a Pleasanton employee you would vote yes on G and keep me employed)? Not righteous or a soothsayer, but have learned much along the way. And in case the last sentence in my previous post wasn't clear enough, concessions have not been asked and I would make them if they were.


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Posted by Mary
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on May 26, 2009 at 9:27 pm

The concessions are coming from the students classrooms yours and mine, our childrens education will be compromised. Why does removing all the elementary vice principals not count, do you actually think their positions do not have value? Hope your child does not need special services or a teacher who can actually pay personal attention to their needs because if they do, they won't get it in a classful of 30 or more students. they will just be another reason why other students cannot be fairly educated. Vote Yes on G and save the classrooms, take your issues with administation elsewhere.


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Posted by Russell
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on May 26, 2009 at 9:33 pm

@Mary

People advocating against Measure G aren't articulating any benefits to school children from its failure. They're asking us to roll the dice and have faith that things will be just fine.


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Posted by Ann Martin
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on May 26, 2009 at 10:02 pm

About this post:
Posted by Mary, a member of the Amador Valley High School community, 4 hours ago

Just wondering, doesn't giving up the Vice Principals at all the elementary schools count for anything in the administration department? Cell phones are not going to save this district, Vote Yes on Measure G and don't attack the students education with your issues about the administration.
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I'm not sure if the poster is responding to someone who posted on this blog as "just wondering" or if the poster's comments are directed to me.

Any dollar being spent that doesn't impact student's education is a dollar that can be redirected towards our children's education.
Because I do not believe PUSD has had the time to go through the budget item by item, and I know that this is not something the Budget Advisory Committee was asked to do, I do not know how many more cases of $120K here or there that can be reduced or eliminated from the budget.

I would like to see this item by item review done regardless of whether G passes or not because in this economy, I believe it's necessary to cut all unnecessary expenses.

There is nothing that can be done about money that has been already spent, but I would like to see PUSD develop written policies about cell phone use (limited to district business), car allowances (limited to those who frequently use their personal vehicles for PUSD business so that the car allowance offsets actual vehicle use expenses rather than being a perk) and "working lunches." (substantially reduced).


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Posted by Kathleen Ruegsegger
a resident of Vintage Hills Elementary School
on May 26, 2009 at 10:02 pm

Mary, $8 million in federal funding makes it possible to keep cuts away from kids. I have nothing against VPs and don't know why you suggest I do. What I have said repeatedly is the community needs to determine what it values and is willing to pay for and if there isn't enough money to fund it all, choices have to be made. I make no presumption as to what that would be, which is why a survey would have been the right thing to do.


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Posted by Einstein
a resident of Mohr Elementary School
on May 26, 2009 at 10:06 pm

I have said for months that this financial meltdown is much bigger than measure G. Major decisons need to be made and made soon otherwise they will be made for us. Wake up Pleasanton..............the Tidal wave is coming.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on May 26, 2009 at 10:18 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

Ann Martin wrote: "Any dollar being spent that doesn't impact student's education is a dollar that can be redirected towards our children's education."

That's a great quote!


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Posted by NO ON G
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 26, 2009 at 10:20 pm

Mary,
Where in the Measure G ballot is it specifically stated that classroom sizes will be less than 30 students per class?
It's been posted on these blogs by me and others that Measure G doesn't guarantee CSR - and CSR is something the community values, as you appear to do too.


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Posted by Mary
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on May 27, 2009 at 8:16 am

Just being "emotional" to show how quick you all are to not support our students education, I believe the administration has it's faults but trying to fix those problems at the cost of our childrens education is NOT OK. If you have a child who needs special services that are required by the state those will happen, slowly. Anyone with a student who can and wants to learn without those services will be the child that is left behind, it's already happening and will only get worse with the cut backs. The teachers union does need to change, CSEA has areas to fix too but I believe it can be done without hurting our students classroom education, emotional? You betcha!! Vote Yes on Measure "G" to support our childrens education.


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Posted by NO ON G
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 27, 2009 at 9:16 am

@ Mary
The federal stimulus funds provide the PUSD time to fix the faults without hurting our students' classroom education.
The PUSD has the time to review the budget carefully and eliminate the excesses and develop a budget in keeping with today's economic situation.
Then, if a parcel tax is necessary, they have the time to put a measure on the November ballot that is very specific about the programs and staffing parents have told the PUSD must be kept.


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Posted by Yes on G
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 27, 2009 at 9:38 am


Federal stimulus monies will not be anywhere near what they say, it's one time money, much of it is directed at special ed and the governor is threatening to take away more funding. Who will teach the ordinary student who does not qualify for special funding? Whoever is lucky to still have a job will have time to give out work sheets and do crowd control. November is too late for a parcel tax because the teachers will already be gone. Vote yes on G.


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Posted by NO ON G
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 27, 2009 at 9:42 am

@ Yes on G/Mary
The federal stimulus money is enough to cover the next school year and if used the way the federal government has directed it to be used, will minimize lay offs. As others have posted, whether G passes or not, there will still be layoffs of the PUSD personnel.


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Posted by Mary
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on May 27, 2009 at 10:03 am

If you want to believe that about the federal money go ahead but until a check arrives don't count on anything. Vote yes on G, I'm out of here, I've got better things to do then bicker with you people. Step up and be on the oversight committees when they are formed, run for public office, if you think you can fix the problems then be part of the solution but our kids need teachers and support staff. Yes on G!


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Posted by NO ON G
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 27, 2009 at 10:12 am

I tried to have a discussion with you Mary/Yes on G (the "you people" comment makes me believe you're the same person), but you are right. You prefer to bicker.


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Posted by Yes we pay!
a resident of Castlewood
on May 27, 2009 at 12:47 pm

I as resident of the county not the city of Pleasanton still pay school taxes. So yes I would be paying the same amount as a city resident if measure G passes. Only homeowners will pay this fee, what about the people that live in another city but send there children to PUSD because they work in P-town?


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Posted by parent
a resident of Amador Valley High School
on May 27, 2009 at 4:02 pm

To "Yes on G", you are trying to make as much scare tactics as you can. The fed money will go to the schools.

If you want to talk about money that we will not see, then that is the seniors who take the exemption. The district does not believe that many seniors will take the exemption each year. So if seniors vote Yes but take the exemption (any senior that does this should question their own ethics), the district will not be collecting the $4.5M per year they are anticipating. So seniors, please don't vote yes unless you intend on paying the tax. Otherwise it could pass but there will not be enough money to solve the problems the district wants to solve, thus wasting everybodies tax money.


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Posted by Bobby
a resident of Del Prado
on May 27, 2009 at 4:14 pm

come on let's be honest. Regardless of whether they vote yes or no most if not all of the seniors are going to take the exemption. I mean who wouldn't if you had the chance?


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Posted by Bobby
a resident of Del Prado
on May 27, 2009 at 4:17 pm

Yes we pay!,

In answer to your question. If a child lives in another city but goes to school in PUSD their parents do not pay the parcel tax as their primary residence is not Pleasanton but rather the city in which they live.


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