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The People have spoken 5 spending Props FLAMED

Original post made by Concerned, Another Pleasanton neighborhood, on May 20, 2009

Please click on this link

Web Link

for an overview of the state vote totals. Of special note was Prop 1B. This is the only Prop that had any traction - only three counties in the state had a majority in favor of it. All the other spending Props lost the majority vote in every county of the state. Prop 1F, the salary freeze, won in every county. The people of the State of California have spoken, loud and clear.

Can you say FUNDEMENTAL C-H-A-N-G-E?

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Posted by Einstein
a resident of Mohr Elementary School
on May 20, 2009 at 11:10 am

Einstein is a registered user.

If we really want to see fundamental change then we need to get a voter pushed referendum on a special election to get a flat tax of 6% and then we will see real change.


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Posted by Get out of the wagon
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 20, 2009 at 1:22 pm

Wow, after reading that site, is it telling or what that the only counties in CA not clued-in to 1-B were in Santa Cruz, San Francisco, and Santa Clara counties? I think we should pay more attention to what those counties are doing to our state.

The ENTIRE rest of the state only voted 1 MM more votes than those three counties combined. Pretty scary that those looney lefties can take us so far down when they are given the opportunity.

Although, I shouldn't be so surprised...look at what those counties alone did to the entire nation by voting for Princess Nancy Pelosi!


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on May 20, 2009 at 1:43 pm

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I find it funny that those counties passed 1B but failed 1A since 1B doesn't take effect if 1A fails.


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Posted by Get out of the wagon
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 20, 2009 at 1:48 pm

Just another example, of how logic and emotion do not work well together...


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Posted by Not so frank
a resident of Foothill Knolls
on May 20, 2009 at 1:58 pm

The shocker for me was seeing uber liberal Marin County reject all but F, just like the rest of the state, with the exception of SF, SC & SCr counties.


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Posted by Alex
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 20, 2009 at 3:41 pm

hmmmm, and which of these "looney lefty" counties have more jobs, successful businesses, and economic opportunity. There are way more home foreclosures in Alameda County than Santa Clara. I wonder how all these looneys are able to pay their mortgage.


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Posted by Mark
a resident of Del Prado
on May 20, 2009 at 4:05 pm

Alex, they are probably on government assistance of some type. Barack will help you if you want a house, car, money, or now an oil change.


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Posted by Tina
a resident of Birdland
on May 20, 2009 at 4:11 pm

Why do the wealthiest people live in those looney counties. Does living there make them looney, or do they move there because they are already looney? I guess Barack is just helping to put them through college to get their PHD's, and of course he helps them with their house,car,money, and oil changes too. It must be nice to be a looney leftie and have Barack on your side. (sigh)


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Posted by Pleasanton resident
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 21, 2009 at 12:04 am

Stacy said "I find it funny that those counties passed 1B but failed 1A since 1B doesn't take effect if 1A fails."

Actually, don't find that surprising at all. Do people even read these props when they vote? Apparently some don't.


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Posted by Nosy Neighbors
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on May 21, 2009 at 9:12 am

Well the Governator is 0-2 in special (spending, btw)elections that were both soundly defeated. I think we need to hold another special election to vote for never having another special election for a "vital" spending issue ever again.

Oh wait...almost forgot about the June 2 SPECIAL ELECTION for yet another "vital" spending issue.

But this one is "for the children..." Right?


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Posted by how many times
a resident of Castlewood
on May 21, 2009 at 9:22 am

This is getting old. Same people, saying the same thing, over and over and over and over...


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Posted by Tu Hung Lo
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 21, 2009 at 10:27 am

Its going to get worse before it gets better. The only real fix will be when its gets bad enough that the light goes on with voters that socialist states don't work - they never have and they never will. If you want to see change, you are going to have to vote out the left-wing-loon legislature.

Another good step would be to have the state assembly and senate disrict boundaries drawn up by a completly impartial computer. This is the only way to break the incumbents lock and restore competitive elections.

Lastly, there is no hope of having a balanced budget until they jettison the HUGE cost of illegal immigration.


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Posted by Concerned
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 21, 2009 at 1:25 pm

Tu, a.k.a. Massive Unit ;),

I agree with the points you make.

Also:

Modify defined benefits for all state workers.

All local, county and state workers should have to risk termination of employment if they strike.

Eliminate redundant local, county and state departments.

All local, county and state employees must take a salary reduction of 5%.

Those making over $85k take a 10% cut.

Over $100k get a 15% cut.

Over $150k take a 20% cut.

Other ideas?


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Posted by Fred
a resident of Downtown
on May 21, 2009 at 1:27 pm

Concerned,

Don't do it by salary level but rather take 10% off of all salaries.


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Posted by Right Wing Extremist
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on May 21, 2009 at 1:40 pm

It is always interesting to me that when given the chance to spend "someone else's" money, people have zero problem with voting for a tax increase. When given the chance to let others destroy their lives, no one cares and votes for "other people's" choices.

Then, seemingly, when taxes will finally really affect the bottom line of every individual in this state, suddenly everyone gets a conscience. When someone else's "rights" are now going to intrude on yours, now you don't want them to have it.

Knowing your own convictions, and staying consistent in them even if you feel uncomfortable (how "easy" it would be to just vote for Measure G and get past the cutbacks), that is how you vote with conviction and maintain real values.


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Posted by Einstein
a resident of Mohr Elementary School
on May 21, 2009 at 1:51 pm

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True economic reform and prudence will only be attained when we give people back their own money to invest in the items they want it spent on and thus this will drive a thriving economy with low unemployment and meaningful revenue. In reading the WSJ recommendations for California they suggest we adopt an across the board flat tax of 6% on the state income tax level and also significantly reduce the sales tax rate. This way we will GAIN revenue as currently there are estimates that as many as 17,000,000 in California pay no income tax at all per LA Times editorial (surprisingly) of April 16th.


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Posted by Concerned
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 21, 2009 at 2:02 pm

Fred, I like the progressive increase for two reasons. First, the pain is felt the higher up the food chain you go. This works as a payback to all the tax and spenders that advocate progressive income taxing.
On that note, the low paid social worker making $35k per year won't be hit as hard as the big cheese making$150k+.


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Posted by Einstein
a resident of Mohr Elementary School
on May 21, 2009 at 2:06 pm

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Concerned,

The way you are discussing would create class warfare and it is not at all healthy for the economy. 10% or whatever from everybody is relative and fair and can be defended. Why punished the rich for busting their hump and being sucessful as they are the ones who create jobs for you and me. By the way I am not rich.


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Posted by No Hacks
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on May 22, 2009 at 8:41 am

Have the Legislature in session a maximum of two months a year. A number of other states have part-time legislatures and are better run. The Texas legislature is typically in session for three months or less EVERY OTHER YEAR! They are in session only during the odd-numbered years. The result is that the legislators are not professional politicians. They earn there livings some other way, such as being businessmen are having to meet their payrolls. Its time to get rid of the professional political hacks in Sacramento.

Once we get that done, then we can work on having Congress a part-time body. That the way it used to be. Think what that would do to the lobbyists.


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Posted by Jason
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on May 23, 2009 at 1:29 pm

I hope that you all will take the time to write to your state assembly member, state senator and the governor as well as posting on here. The latest plan to "borrow" money from cities and counties to resolve the budget crisis will not rein in spending but will hurt our local services.


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