Posted by Concerned Parent, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 1, 2009 at 11:20 pm
Have these students and staff member been on campus? Which schools? Can the Pleasanton Weekly find out? We have the right to know if our children were exposed to people who are being tested for the swine flu, yet the district is not disclosing more than what this article states.
Most schools and school districts disclose the information, yet PUSD is keeping quiet, not saying which schools or if the students and staff member were being allowed in school while the testing is completed.
Posted by Anonymous, a resident of another community, on May 1, 2009 at 11:44 pm
If it does turn out to be swine flu, I'd like to see some comments on whether or not these people had traveled to Mexico recently. I'm sure more than a few people are interested in looking at the patterns here and how the virus spreads.
Posted by Resident, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 2, 2009 at 9:29 am
" Grasso said she didn't know when the results would be back"
My understanding is that it does not take long to get the test results. By Monday, the district should know the results, since they take a day or two (blood test) and can get a good idea right away (swab)
Posted by Resident, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 2, 2009 at 3:39 pm
True, not everyone who gets the swine flu will die, and most cases have been mild in the US. But schools all over the country and even in Contra Costa County are closing out of precaution if they suspect cases of the swine flu. See for example the PW article about Contra Costa County:
Posted by Mom, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 2, 2009 at 5:37 pm
C'mon people. Do you think PUSD is so casual as to allow people who had been tested with results not yet available to come back to school?? Sheesh- give them a little credit.
And secondly, it is none of your business WHO the carriers might be. There is this thing called "right to privacy". Certainly you will be notified of the campus with the outbreak and most likely, the entire school district will be closed for at least a week (incubation period) and the schools will ALL be disinfected.
Now everyone needs to just GET A GRIP! This thing has been blown way out of proportion. Once again, thank you MEDIA.
Posted by scared, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on May 2, 2009 at 9:51 pm
First it was the pirates, than the teachers, and now the swine flu....They're all trying to get us...ahhhhhhhh.... stay in your house, never leave...and don't go vote on measure G. I heard the swine flu would be all over the ballots this year. There is evil in the air!
Posted by Better policy, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 2, 2009 at 10:20 pm
Now that the school district is encouraging anyone with a fever and other symptoms to stay home for at least 2 days, I hope the high schools relax their policies on make-up homework and tests. These policies are so rigid that even taking half a day off due to illness can be devasting on a student's academic record. One missed assignment due to illness and it's a big fat zero in the grade book. Teachers do not reach out to students who have been ill to remind them of the work required to catch-up.
Other school districts, including San Ramon, are releasing the names of the schools. No one is asking for the names of the individuals, just the names of the schools potentially affected, that has nothing to do with the right to privacy.
Posted by Concerned Parent, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 3, 2009 at 8:29 am
And I just read another article in the Pleasanton Weekly. In that article about the governor declaring a state of emergency, they say:
"Results will be available in 24 to 48 hours, health department spokeswoman Kris VanTornhout said."
Why is Pleasanton saying they don't know when the results will be available? If they announced on Friday that 13 people were tested, then by Monday at the latest we should know. Are they playing games?
Posted by Anonymous, a resident of another community, on May 3, 2009 at 8:54 am
To "Calm down": preventing the spread of AIDS is much easier than preventing flu. The things you need to do to protect against AIDS or to avoid it entirely are very simple and straightforward. So yes, it is easy to see why people are more worried about the swine flu, even without media hype.
Posted by Love my babies, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 3, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Last night I looked up symptoms for the flu, because my daughter actually has the flu right now, to determine what kind of medicine to give her to help her symptoms (Tylenol cold/cough or Tylenol Flu). She wasn't feeling well by the end of school and so we saw her doctor Friday PM who said it was unlikely the H1N1 flu since we have not been around anyone who has visited Mexico recently - not sure how she would definitively know that, but she's the doctor and she gets to make that call. I just take care of my child the best that I can.
Well, my daughter was really feeling yucky 24 hours later (last night) and I went online to compare symptoms of cold vs. flu when I saw an article from a Pennsylvania newspaper online. While I am bummed that I cannot now find the link to give to you all(there are already so many new links in the topic from when I Googled flu symptoms since last night that the article never appeared when I Googled it again today), but I do know what stood out in the article to me and that was two points:
While the virus in highly contagious, which is why all of the media is going crazy, this actual strain of flu does NOT appear to be severe like other flu strains in the past. That is good news in this situation. It is spreading like crazy because of it's contagiousness, and while I am not an MD, I felt like if this is the H1N1 flu my daughter has, it doesn't seem to be as severe as the RSV virus (not a flu) that she had as a toddler or other episodes of the flu we've had in the past. I think that is where the sanity will need to come from at this point...
The most important thing to consider if someone in your family gets ANY kind of flu is to watch out for dehydration and breathing difficulties (rapid, shortness of breath, shallow-quick breathing, etc). Do not give water if there are sypmtoms of vommiting/diarrhea - instead you always need something with proper potassium and sodium levels (aka "electrolytes") to replace the ones lost. That is what dehydration is, and that is what you get in the hospital if you are dehydrated. If your body is dehydrated, giving more water will further dilute the electrolytes you have and worsen the problem unless you are eating bananas or other potassium rich foods and chicken soup or another sodium sources. Keep Gatorade on hand (save your money if you are considering Pedialyte...kids HATE it - just go with Gatorade or other replenishing drink), also bananas, chicken soup, apple sauce and toast.
Posted by Beth, a resident of the Foothill Knolls neighborhood, on May 3, 2009 at 3:19 pm
The hype surrounding this is ridiculous, unless I am missing something.
The seasonal flu killed 1800 people in the US this season. This HINI killed one. It's also harder to spread (direct contact only.)
I think the PUSD is also seriously overreacting.
The district nurse called our home b/c our daughter has been out for a week with a 101 - 103 fever. They said their new policy is that if anyone has one or more of the symptoms of swine flu (which is the same as regular flu), they need a note from their dr. saying they don't have and have never had swine flu.
Really?!? So every kid with a fever plus one other common illness symptom has to get a blood test when the CDC has already said that they prefer testing to only occur when there's a cluster of flu symptoms or a location where swine flu is already known to be?
Posted by Concerned Parent, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 3, 2009 at 6:19 pm
All school districts are doing the same, that is the recommendation of the CDC. Some schools in San Jose and one in San Ramon have closed until the results of the tests are back - they have a potential case of swine flu, not confirmed yet.
You should take this a little more seriously, maybe you don't mind the swine flu but some do. Some people have weakened immune systems due to medications, age or other reasons.
I hope PUSD releases the names of the schools potentially affected, and that they get with the program because it does not take more than a couple of days to get the test results back.
Posted by Concerned Parent, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 3, 2009 at 6:28 pm
Love my babies:
Your doctor seems uninformed, by now everyone knows that not everyone in the US with confirmed swine flu has been to Mexico.
Competent doctors evaluate the symptoms and perform a blood test if necessary. Your doctor seems incompetent and if your child has the swine flu, Tamiflu is recommended and people are contagious for 7 days after onset of symptoms and up to 14.
You should let the other parents know about your child, it is the responsible thing to do since PUSD is not doing so.
Posted by Beth, a resident of the Foothill Knolls neighborhood, on May 4, 2009 at 7:39 am
Concerned Parent -
Well then if I'm not taking this seriously enough I certainly hope that you are in favor of closing schools every time the seasonal flu goes around. Did you know that, according to the CDC, over 1800 people have died of the seasonal flu this season?!?
I hope you kept your kids home throughout the winter, otherwise you are not taking the seasonal flu seriously enough.
Posted by Concerned Parent, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 4, 2009 at 10:57 am
My kids are healthy but if they were sick right now like your child, I would take it just a little more seriously than you seem to be taking it.
If you are so cynical about it, why not call the CDC, the governor and tell them what you think? They are the ones recommending the closure of schools when swine flu has been either confirmed or is probable.
Posted by Love my babies, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 4, 2009 at 11:49 am
Not that I want it this way, but my daughter was seen at Vally Care ER last night for dehydration and was diagnosed with pneumonia. I'm not sure if it started out as the flu and developed into pneu, or if she had pneu from the get-go, but that is where we are at now.
Concerned parent: I agree with your assessment of our ped. and her lack of understanding. We adore her, but we are purposefully going to see another ped in the practice today to get another opinion and we're going to get the results of her blood work back. I will be keeping her out of school and will let them know as soon as I have any results. I don't want to panic anyone.
Interestingly, while in the ER yesterday, the same info was given to us as I heard on a news program this weekend, which was the ER has ben inundated with cases of ALLERGIES because people are so freaked out. If someone has the symptoms of the flu, you need to monitor your symptoms for fever and dehydration. Those are the only reasons to go to the ER. Just to find out if your runny nose is or is not the flu (any kind) is clogging the system and making it difficult for those of us with a family member actually needing IV and medication. PLUS, as the ER docs told us, people are needlessly exposing themselves to who-knows-what by going to the ER.
Posted by Beth, a resident of the Foothill Knolls neighborhood, on May 4, 2009 at 12:27 pm
Hey Concerned Parent,
I'm taking care of my kid just fine, thank you for your concern.
She has a fever and now after 5 days of fever, has some congestion and a cough as a result. She is getting better at home even without me panicking. Amazing, isn't it?
I'm curious as to why you think I'm not taking this seriously. Your statement that I should take it more seriously because people have weakened immune systems applies just as much, if not more, to the seasonal flu. My child doesn't have a weakened immune system. I'm sorry if yours do, as you imply, but if so, you should really keep them at home during any kind of flu worry if you are that concerned.
Posted by Mary, a member of the Foothill High School community, on May 4, 2009 at 4:59 pm
My teachers got an e-mail today saying three people from my school have a probable case of Swine Flu, and their blood is being sent to a specialist for confirmation. They were informed that the school may be shut down for two weeks, but they (the teachers) would still come and e-mail all the students their work.
I guess time will tell.. just thought you all should know! What scares me is that one girl went home with a fever and sore throat and such today from my class... don't know why she even came to school.
Posted by Mary, a member of the Foothill High School community, on May 4, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Actually, the Spanish Flu was very mild in the Spring, and then came around to kill in the Fall. Despite what you may think, no one knows for sure what this will be like. Parents have every right to be precautions.
Posted by Concerned parent, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 4, 2009 at 6:23 pm
Yes, it is amazing that a child can have a fever for 5 days - that is not normal, and most people would have called the doctor after the third day - again, it is not normal for a fever to go on for so long. My kids usually only get a fever for a day or two when they get the flu.
I too find it amazing that a child went to school with a fever. It is still more disturbing that PUSD is keeping quiet about the whole thing. Which schools? Test results should be back by now.
Posted by Carol, a resident of the California Reflections neighborhood, on May 4, 2009 at 7:57 pm
I read online that Alameda County was overwhelmed with samples for analysis, and so many of those samples have been sent to the State (Sac?) for analysis. That's probably why its taking a few more days to get results. I don't think PUSD is hiding anything.
Posted by masks, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 4, 2009 at 10:49 pm
..might be available at a home improvement store. Dust masks would probably serve the same purpose. Otherwise, at home a bandana would keep the droplets from spreading from the mouth or going into the mouth.
Posted by Beth, a resident of the Foothill Knolls neighborhood, on May 5, 2009 at 6:40 am
Hey Concerned Parent -
Not that this even requires a response, but since you seem so "concerned" about my daughter: I called the ped. after 3 days but did not run screaming over there, exposing her to who knows what at the dr.'s office, demanding to be tested for swine flu, and whatever else anyone seems to be panicking about. I called and checked in, they said to monitor her, and then I continued to have her rest at home.
This is what responsible, common sense-using parents do. No alarm, no panic. Hope this allays your "concerns".
"love my babies" - I hope your daughter is continuing to recover. I have had children very very sick before, and it's no fun.
Posted by bel, a resident of the Val Vista neighborhood, on May 5, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Wonder when they will get results for the tests, you would think they would put some priority on testing for people in schools where it could spread easily. They shut down schools in other places so fast but the results for here are so slow. Something is wron there.
It seems very weak doesn't it? But its not something to ignore, we haven't hit flu season yet and there is the possibility it could mutate and come back worse.
Posted by MainStreetDiva, a member of the Vintage Hills Elementary School community, on May 5, 2009 at 1:42 pm MainStreetDiva is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
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Posted by Love my babies, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on May 5, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Thank you for your kindness. It has been really tough since last Friday, but we are seeing some improvement at long last with the antibiotics she was prescribed. Valley Care (pediatrician Dr. Lee in the ER) did a SUPER job and so did both of our pediatricians!
I hope your child is recuperating well also, it seems like these viruses are lasting longer and longer and a fever, even low-grade for many days, isn't unusual now.
Take good care - now that the weather is nice, let's get OUTSIDE with our kids and off the computers!! :) It is amazing how the sunshine can improve everyone's mood!
Posted by Katie, a resident of the Ruby Hill neighborhood, on May 8, 2009 at 11:58 am
Who cares?? You aren't going to die, it's like the normal flu, everyone needs to calm down. The media is making is waaaayyyy worse than it needs to be. What about AIDS, huh??? No one will wear a condom for that, and there are millions dying. And when like, less than a hundred people "get" swine flu, everyone gets a friggin' mask. Probably all the liberals.