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The ballot language mapped to specific programs for Measure G

Original post made by Tony E., Pleasanton Meadows, on Apr 26, 2009

I thought it might be helpful to list those specific programs and dollar amounts Measure G's projected $4.6 million / year would fund.

Small Class Sizes: $2,000,000
Counseling Services: $966,000
Reading & Math Support Programs: $535,000
Safe & Clean Schools: $450,000
Library Hours: $290,000
Technology Instruction: $223,000
Elementary Strings & Band Program: $120,000
County Assessment Fee: $77,928

For more information please visit Web Link.


Thanks

Tony

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Posted by Pleasanton Parent
a resident of Pleasanton Meadows
on Apr 26, 2009 at 10:45 pm

You forgot salary increases over 4yrs - ~$15 million


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 26, 2009 at 11:20 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

That list above is just how much to set the parcel tax at was calculated. It's misleading to present it as anything else. The PUSD administration took what the current expenditure is for those programs, added them up, then divided by 20,000 parcels (assuming 5,000 will be exempt). There's absolutely nothing in the Measure G ballot language that specifies that those amounts must be provided to those programs. The District could turn around and only devote $1.6MM to K-3 CSR and get rid of ninth grade CSR if they wanted to. The oversight committee doesn't have any real power to scold the District for doing that. The ballot language is all just warm and fuzzy.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 27, 2009 at 7:24 am

Stacey is a registered user.

Just in case my post above wasn't clear, here's an example...

Counseling Services: $966,000

This amount pays for salaries to counselors. Counselors are certificated staff. Certificated staff gets step and column increases. The District will be paying out $15MM in step and column over the four year life of the parcel tax. That $966,000 number will increase over four years because of step and column. Suddenly there isn't enough funds from Measure G to pay for all the counselors. Maybe they'll cut ninth grade CSR from Measure G funds to pay for the counselor raises.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 27, 2009 at 7:27 am

Stacey is a registered user.

The amounts listed above for those programs come from _today's_ cost. But what are the future costs and will Measure G be enough to cover them for the four years? NO!


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 27, 2009 at 7:32 am

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Or maybe, instead of cutting, they'll put another parcel tax measure on the ballot with an amount higher than $233. Statistics for parcel taxes are in favor of that!


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Posted by Ken in South Pleasanton
a resident of Downtown
on Apr 27, 2009 at 9:14 am

Measure G, as well as ballot measures A-E, don't address the root of the problem which is spending more than you take in (I was about to use the term 'earn', but I have trouble labeling the taxes we pay as something the government actually earns). If I'm treating a patient in the emergency room who is bleeding excessively, I don't do it by trying to infuse the patient with new blood while ignoring the source of the bleeding. I think the only measure worth a yes vote on this ballot is measure F, whereby elected officials will purportedly not receive pay increases in budget deficit years. The only problem with F is that it doesn't go far enough...it should require that legislators who are unable to create a balanced budget on the required date should be put on a recall ballot and voted out of office. But, that's just what one humble voting individual believes...


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Posted by Bruce
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Apr 27, 2009 at 9:23 am

How about no elected official can receive a paycheck when there is not a balanced budget. After all, they are not doing what they are being paid for.


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Posted by taxpayer
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 27, 2009 at 9:48 am

Step and column is not going away.


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Posted by Gordon
a resident of Foothill High School
on Apr 27, 2009 at 10:02 am

Can anyone tell me why my ballot only has Measures 1, A-F? I don't see G (or anything esle?)


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 27, 2009 at 10:16 am

Stacey is a registered user.

Gordon,

PUSD practically doubled their cost of the election to roughly $300,000 by putting G on a June 2nd ballot. They're hoping that you don't vote.


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Posted by Liz
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 27, 2009 at 11:17 am

Gordon,
There is a separate, one item, second ballot that PUSD is hoping people don't figure out.


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Posted by Joe
a resident of Downtown
on Apr 27, 2009 at 11:23 am

Gordon and others,
This is a tactic that the Howard Jarvis web site warns voters about. A stand alone ballot measure so fewer people will vote giving them a better chance of passage.


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Posted by Joe
a resident of Downtown
on Apr 27, 2009 at 11:25 am

Also, in this case they have the added opportunity to confuse voters by having 2 elections only weeks apart.


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Posted by Tim
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 27, 2009 at 11:50 am

To continue with what Ken and Bruce were saying, how about a law that makes them sit in the chambers at the end of the fiscal year when the next budget isn't ready, and they don't get leave until their work is done. After all, I don't leave work until my work is done.


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Posted by Community of Character
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 27, 2009 at 4:19 pm

@Stacy: "PUSD practically doubled their cost of the election to roughly $300,000 by putting G on a June 2nd ballot. They're hoping that you don't vote."

I find your baseless accusation disturbing, young lady. School board and the honorable Dr. Casey chose the 6/2 date to make a better distinction between our parcel tax and the state budget initiatives.

No one is stopping you from voting in both elections.


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 27, 2009 at 4:23 pm

Stacey is a registered user.

It's not baseless! Web Link

"It is a frequent tactic used by local governments to schedule low turnout special elections for parcel tax measures, even though such elections are very expensive, in an effort to sneak through a parcel tax. For example, a majority of the local school parcel tax elections over the past few years have been low turnout special elections."


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 27, 2009 at 4:24 pm

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PUSD has so far been following the playbook. At least San Ramon's school district saved money by using a mail-only ballot. Not PUSD!


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Posted by Jan
a resident of Foothill High School
on Apr 27, 2009 at 5:16 pm

When asked why they changed the election date the only reason PUSD could give was, "to give voters time to be better educated on the issue." $i50,000 for two weeks????

"School board and the honorable Dr. Casey chose the 6/2 date to make a better distinction between our parcel tax and the state budget initiatives."
If this is the latest spin it is not worth over $100 grand either.

If CC thinks they are a positive example of the community of character..... well I guess he/she is as much as PUSD is.


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Posted by Sick of it all
a resident of Bonde Ranch
on Apr 27, 2009 at 6:01 pm

Same old stuff from the same old tired people!!!


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Posted by Get out of the wagon
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 27, 2009 at 6:12 pm

Thank you "Sick of it all" for not only pointing out where the rest of us have gone wrong, but elevating the conversation by contributing new and inspiring information to the dialogue, thereby showing the rest of us how we should be contributing. You are a stellar example of virtue and intellect.


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Posted by Community of Character
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 27, 2009 at 6:27 pm

Ignore those misleading opinions from the anti-G, anti-children, and anti-community crowd. It's those same 3-5 people whining about a tax to save our schools and our children.

We need to stay focus on our commitment to save our schools, our children, and our community.

Our teachers and PUSD management are making personal sacrifice to help our children and our community via voluntary pay cut.

We, as a community, should be proud of this level of commitment toward education. Our children, our future leaders, depend on our commitment to pass this parcel tax.

Vote Yes on G!


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Posted by Get out of the wagon
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 27, 2009 at 6:39 pm

Thank you, Community of Character, for your sarcastic approach to help us see the simple minded approach of the parcel tax proponents. You are hilarious and are gifted at pointing out how ludicrous their statements are in your witty writing!

Thank you for pointing out the flaws in their emotional and lack of thought arguments. It is so refreshing to have this support!

Can't wait to celebrate the defeat of G with YOU, CC, on June 3, so we can really educate our children on how to properly fund education with principles, not ridiculous threats from irresponsible district management and indulgent parents without standards!

Again, thank you Community of Character for calling these ridiculous supporters of G onto the carpet with your insightful sarcasm!


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Posted by Senior Citizen
a resident of Downtown
on Apr 27, 2009 at 6:40 pm

Community of Character - you speak like a schoolyard bully and the No on G people have been right to call you out for your behavior on these blogs.
There are good people on both sides of the issue who have ocme to different conclusions about what they believe is right.
Shame on you for not being able to have a conversation without being nasty.


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Posted by Carl
a resident of Country Fair
on Apr 27, 2009 at 8:03 pm

To add to the initial list:

Voting NO on G: Priceless


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Posted by Bruce
a resident of Pleasanton Heights
on Apr 28, 2009 at 10:07 am

When the inititives fail in the May election, we are back to ground zero with the budget. Measure G will not be nearly enough. Why do we waste time and effort arguing about who's right or wrong about our children's education when the problem is in Sacrmento. Let's form a march on the Capitol and demand that they spend our education dollars on education instead of wasting it on alien healthcare and hundreds of other campaign contribution paybacks. Let's attack the problem where it began. Make those power hungry jerks do their job.


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Posted by Community of Character
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 28, 2009 at 2:16 pm

Measure G is not going to fail, to the dismay of some of you anti-children and anti-school people. It's one thing to challenge wasteful government spending but it's another when our children's education is on the line.

Passing this parcel tax will ensure that our children receive the high-quality education that they deserve. It's time for some of you people to stop being Ebenezer Scrooge and reconnect with the community.


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Posted by Get out of the wagon
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 28, 2009 at 2:39 pm

Community of Character -

You are right! We are on the brink of our children losing their education outright if this parcel tax does not pass!!

I'm SOOOOOOOOO scared for "the children"!! How soon can we vote to make sure this doesn't happen??? We should even consider building bunkers!

Money is the answer! More, More, MORE! It doesn't matter that the district mismanages the money we give them and that ONLY 3.5 MM of the 18.5 MM that is generated by this tax will ACTUALLY go to the programs of the kids and then 15MM balance to the teacher's salaries. That is beside the point! Logic is over rated!! They DESERVE the money! And you are right to get us back on the right track!!

Who cares if they don't get it right this time and we'll need an additional tax to generate MORE revenues in the future?? The point is, we are selfish adults not in touch with reality like you are! You have won me over with your logic-lacking arguments and emotional manipulation about my own children and the poor helpless children of my neighbors like yours.

Thank you for setting me straight! I'm sure you are right and that this parcel tax will pass, because that would mean the majority of Pleasantonians are ignorant and emotionally led by the snout clowns. Thanks for letting us know what you think of the "majority" of your neighbors!

Um...I actually believe sound judgment and reasoning of this educated community will prevail and points to the fact that they will not be supporting this measure. Pleasantonians are just not that easily pressured.


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Posted by Conservativew/OpenMind
a resident of another community
on Apr 28, 2009 at 9:05 pm

I will say upfront that I am a conservative. I attend church regularly in the community, have conservative values, and have really been frustrated at the direction our country appears to be headed. I am frustrated by the ever growing number of taxes we have to pay as California citizens. I work hard for my money and agree that when I expend more than I have to, it is my responsibility to spend less, not the government's to bail me out.

However, I am willing to make an exception when I have to pay taxes... and that is for education. Both sides of the aisle have done great injustices in funding education. A lot of people make promises to fund education, but fall short (If you conservatives don't believe me, read the book Fleeced By Dick Morris. The book makes wonderful arguments on how we should better fund education AND hold educators accountable).

I will openly say I have ties to the district, but I would rather not say in what capacity. In my experience, I have found that when funding is requested for programs/supplies/etc. justification is necessary and requests are run by parents, administrators, and other outlets within the community. When at all possible, PTA and other community organizations/partnerships are approached to assist with funding.

I reside in neighboring community in the Tri-Valley area and voted in favor of our parcel tax in November. Whether or not you chose to support this measure is entirely up to you. However, while I plan on fighting taxes that I think are completely unnecessary, I do plan on supporting education (and accountability). If you are against the measure, consider visiting an elementary school in your neighborhood.


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Posted by Get out of the wagon
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 28, 2009 at 9:39 pm

Conservativew/OpenMind

Terrific post!

I agree with most of what you said...I just want to ask you if you would vote for this if you knew that 15MM of the 18.5MM would actually go to the students? Because only 3.5MM is, according to the language in the Measure and no programs are specifically guaranteed to be funded.

I want our schools to be terrific and I even want the teachers to be very well paid (especially those in special education who, in my humble opinion, are so pushed aside when they work incredibly hard for an entire family and have so little resources), but I will not give more money at this time to a group of individuals who voted themselves raises when it was evident the State was going to be lacking funds to balance the budget. The "leadership" in our district is irresponsible and have proven themselves as such. They do not deserve to be responsible for more.

Thank you for your sincere and honest post, I'm glad to know you work in this district!


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Posted by Get out of the wagon
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 28, 2009 at 9:41 pm

Oops!

I meant to say ask "would you vote for this if you knew that only 3.5MM is going to the students" (with the remaining 15MM of the 18.5MM going to the teachers for salaries).

So sorry about that!


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Posted by Jim
a resident of Hart Middle School
on Apr 29, 2009 at 9:05 am

How much did that 4 color flyer cost that was drpped on doorsteps through Pleasanton?
Let's spend some more so that some people can continue to get raises while regular businesses are closing and cutting back.
Have you seen all the shuttered businesses in Pleasanton?
Education needs to cut back just like the like everyone else.
It is time to make tough fiscal decisions.
The answer is not to create another tax. Sure it is only 200 bucks. Sales tax is only another 1% (now at 9.75%).
The childern are not going to suffer.
Cut the fat in education in Sacramento and use that cash to fund local programs. More taxes just is a cop-out instead of making hard choices.


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Posted by In favor of Measure G
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 29, 2009 at 10:22 am

I just want to add that the color flyers left on Jim's doorstep and throughout Pleasanton were paid for by donations from the community to SavePleasantonSchools. NONE of this is money from PUSD!!! Your friends and neighbors walking through the precincts are also donating their time to educate people about Measure G and the importance of keeping the programs funded that this money is going to support.
The parcel tax at $233 a year for 4 years is money that will stay in Pleasanton for the good of our schools and community. It's crazy to me that these bitter arguments are happening over this when I see parents all the time spending excessive amounts of money on afterschool sports and classes but don't agree with a parcel tax.
Please vote YES on Measure G, it's an excellent investment in our children, our commmunity, and our property values!!!


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Posted by Stacey
a resident of Amberwood/Wood Meadows
on Apr 29, 2009 at 11:00 am

Stacey is a registered user.

For every dollar that gets taken out of someone's budget in taxes, that's one less dollar to go towards all those after school sports, classes, and other extracurricular activities. Speaking of local control, some of us parents would rather decide how the money gets spent on our kids rather than going to raises. If we want to donate directly to our schools, we do so.


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Posted by Sad State
a resident of Another Pleasanton neighborhood
on Apr 29, 2009 at 12:04 pm

Is it really that hard for the Yes Vigilantes to understand that raising taxes - or in this case, adding a new tax - is a bad idea during a recession, even in a wealthy community like Pleasanton? I know several people here in danger of losing their homes. Another $233 a year is NOT merely a cup of coffee to them; it's yet another bill they can't pay.

How dare some of you say that those people don't care about the kids. Get your act together and think beyond yourselves here.


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