Posted by Anonymous Because I Can, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 25, 2009 at 9:52 am
Counseling is a waste of time and money. What this kid needs is something meaningful to do with his time than to get drunk and stupid. Some parents are clueless what their kids do throughout the day; that needs to change to keep kids out of trouble.
Posted by member, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 25, 2009 at 10:03 am
This kid is going to pay the price. I would like to take notice of this young mans character, from another perspective. I don't believe for a second that he acted alone. He was drunk with "friends" and they acted stupid and THEY made a mistake. For one reason or another he must take the fall alone. He was backed into a corner and he came clean. The cowards that were with him are worse than he is. At least he's going to take responsibility for his actions. I'm not trying to make this criminal seem honorable. I just respect the code.
Posted by AVHS Dad, a resident of the Stoneridge Park neighborhood, on Mar 25, 2009 at 12:28 pm AVHS Dad is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
Althoug I'm suprised it was a local, I'm impressed that he and his parents are taking responsibility and dealing with it directly. Kudos to them. How many parents would try to cover it up and protect their "babies"?
Yes, I live in the neighborhood it happened but saw no slashed tires myself.
Posted by S., a resident of the Stoneridge neighborhood, on Mar 25, 2009 at 7:48 pm
dude, that doesn't make it ok to vandalize other people's property. It also doesn't make it ok to do drugs and get wasted either. With this said, I know that if you are not into sports, there is not a whole lot of other things to do around here. I don't know what the answer is but I bet you that any teen living in lets say East Oakland or East San Jose would change towns in a heartbeat.
Posted by Anne, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 26, 2009 at 7:05 am
Didn't I say in an earlier thread that it was probably a "teen trolling around town under the influence"? But I don't believe this kid acted alone. I could believe one kid if it was one or two cars -- but 27 tires?!! This almost seems like a "dare".
Posted by AVHS Dad, a resident of the Stoneridge Park neighborhood, on Mar 26, 2009 at 7:08 am AVHS Dad is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
Geeze, even if you're not into sports there's the Mecca of Hacienda Crossing that has hundreds of teens congregating any given evening, Borders, Barnes & Noble, pizza parlors, coffee shops, the mall...
Heck, if your'e really bored, how about doing your homework? or volunteering at the Senior Center? or cleaning up your room?
Posted by Marine Mom, a resident of Livermore, on Mar 26, 2009 at 8:53 am
Boring Pleasanton???? My son graduated from AVHS in 2007 and he always had things to do WITHOUT getting into trouble. How about a job for one thing and then doing school work. That should be enough to keep them busy alone not to mention the other things already posted. Some kids don't know how to entertain themselves because they depend on outside stimulus like video games too much.
This sounds like a good kid that just made a bad decision and hopefully he will learn from his mistake.
Posted by concerned pleasanton resident, a resident of the Stoneridge neighborhood, on Mar 26, 2009 at 2:43 pm
Also there is no way he did this by himself. I'm sure he was having a good time partying and thought a little trouble would be of no harm to him but wasn't thinking of the damage left behind.
Obviously this is a troubled teenager who is looking for help in all the wrong places. Hopefully his parents will see this and get him the help that he needs. Luckily he is seventeen. Take advantage of this time to help him head in the right direction before he turns eighteen and has nowhere to turn but to the harsh reality of paying the adult consequences for his actions. Good luck to this confused and insecure boy reaching out.
Posted by AVHS Dad, a resident of the Stoneridge Park neighborhood, on Mar 27, 2009 at 6:43 am AVHS Dad is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
Grow up, get a life, get a clue before you end up doing something really stupid and hurting or killing someone. There will always be plenty of Young and Stupid kids out there who are "just having fun" when they end up doing something they regret the rest of their lives.
At least the kid was responsible enough to admit what he did and deal with it head on. That's a good first step.
Posted by Yo Mamma, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 27, 2009 at 8:18 am
Kids just out having FUN - HOGWASH!!!! Balderdash !! Ignorance !!, Obtuseness, Puerility !!1 Imbecility !!!
Spend your time learning the meanings instead of vandalizing someone's property!
I'm sure those folks worked hard to earn the money to purchase the tires for the cars that were slashed. Perhaps the punishment should fit the crime - said "fessor" should have to repay each victim the cost of repair!
I'd bet dollars to donuts that child would never act so foolishly again.
THE CHILD - not the parents - should make restitution.
Posted by resident, a resident of the Pleasanton Heights neighborhood, on Mar 27, 2009 at 8:55 am
Yes, the punk should pay the price but who raised him to think that behavior was OK? The parents who were too busy letting the little jerk do whatever he wanted to do. I say the parents and the punk should be sentenced to repay every person in dollars and also repay every single person with personal labor. How about pulling weeds or washing windows or cleaning up the dog poop in the yard? I think an hour with each victim for each dollar of cost should make an impression. But make sure the braindead parents who raised this creep are forced to participate. They saved all that time by not parenting, now they can pay it back to the people their evil kid hurt. Take responsibility for your children, those of us without any are tired of being victimized by your bored and lazy kids.
Posted by rational person, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 27, 2009 at 9:58 am
I would like to respond to a previous comment:
Resident, I want to remind you that you're talking about a child when you say: "little jerk, punk, this creep, evil kid, bored and lazy kid..." This is a 17 year old child that hasn't had the life experiences that we might have had. He is a child still learning how to grow up. He admits his mistake now. Your verbal assaults are showing more insight into your character, than this young mans. Also, may I ask if you know these parents first hand? You have made more than a few accusations towards them as bad parents. I would hope you have more information than simply this one incident. I understand your outrage. Although, when I read your comment, all I see is your hate and anger.
Posted by I agree, a resident of the Stoneridge neighborhood, on Mar 27, 2009 at 10:46 am
I am one of those people who lives in the neighborhood where this happened. Besides the loss of money and loss of time for some of the neighbors, it was frustrating not knowing if this was a random issue, a prank or if we were being targeted.
I for one am happy that this case was solved.
With this said, we need to stop the name calling and making assumptions about this family. We all make mistakes. Some of them with very bad consequences. I am hopeful that this is a wake up call for this young man. I am still surprised that he confessed. Taking responsibility is not always an easy thing to do for young adults or adults.
Posted by AVHS Dad, a resident of the Stoneridge Park neighborhood, on Mar 27, 2009 at 11:46 am AVHS Dad is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
I agree with "I agree" and "rational person".
There's nothing here to show the parents or the young man have done anything but behave responisbly since the incident. He himself said he had "anger managment issues". Better to deal with it now than after he turns 18, and it sounds like that's exactly what they're doing.
Posted by tired of spoiled kids, a resident of the Stoneridge neighborhood, on Mar 27, 2009 at 8:28 pm
I admire the young man for stepping up and admitting his participation in the tire slashing. Unfortunately he's covering up for his "homies" part of the FSU "an acronym for F--K S--T UP" group, who feel it's cool to get drunk and go around vandalizing cars and homes in the community. The exploits of the group is common knowledge among the local high school kids. My hope is that he will share with authorities the names of the others involved and bring an end to this distructive behavior. Bored with nothing to do, give me a break. More like spoiled, inconsiderate, disrespectful high schoolers, starving for attention.
Posted by Amador Mom, a resident of the Birdland neighborhood, on Mar 28, 2009 at 4:04 am
Bored? I have two teens and they are always busy with homework, playing sports, getting together with friends, playing video games, family time together, chatting on facebook, marching band, and so on. They don't get bored. In fact, our struggle is to find down time for them. There is alot to do in this town for kids. The problem here is with the parenting. A 17-year old is not a child, but at this age a person has already internalized the values of the parents and in the case of his/her development, has come to know the difference between right or wrong. This "child" knows the difference and must suffer the consequences of his behavior. If this person has anger management issues as he stated, then therapy is crucial before it is too late. Only therapy will help the family to look at why the boy behaves as he does, especially in the context of the family system.
Posted by Cholo, a resident of Livermore, on Mar 28, 2009 at 10:52 am
The slasher's deed is criminal. Good that he fessed-up, but the act of destroying another person's property is a criminal act. There is a reason that the laws exist. I think it's time to apply the law in this case so he does the time. This is not just about the victim's being reimbursed. It's about violating the law and consequences.
Posted by NoCalGal, a resident of the Amberwood/Wood Meadows neighborhood, on Mar 30, 2009 at 8:16 am
I happen to know this family and have for years. They are a good family and the mom had been extremely involved in her kids' schools. It just goes to show you that this sort of thing can happen in any family, so perhaps some of you should not be so judgemental. I feel confident that this family is and will continue to handle this difficult situation responsibly and the child will get the help that he needs.
Posted by Resident, a resident of the Happy Valley neighborhood, on Mar 30, 2009 at 5:36 pm
A lot going on here that people are starting to see. These kids think they are in a gang called FSU. But all the scared Pleasanton parents who cruise these forums don't get frightened it is just a sad attempt. The real FSU started as a group of people attempting to rid some hardcore music scenes of neo-nazis. They are violent and I guess a gang but these kids are by no means part of the real FSU gang. How do I know? The real FSU is a STRAIGHT EDGE gang meaning they have nothing to do with drugs or alcohol and the truth is if they found out what these lame Pleasanton kids are doing they would be in REAL danger. Do some research and see, the gang is violent because they had to be to scare off the skinheads, and if they ever dealt with these imitators, I'm willing to bet they would be just as violent.
Posted by AVHS STUDENT, a resident of the Another Pleasanton neighborhood neighborhood, on Mar 31, 2009 at 8:02 pm
Being a student I only know what I hear. But this kid did not do it alone. Going to school with him for several years I know he is a follower not a leader. He is also not the type to randomly stab tires, he had an "audience" per se. the FSU. Alas, I have no proof but sometimes the talk around school has a funny way of being right. I guarantee you this runs a lot deeper then just one kid.
Posted by to the parents, a resident of another community, on Apr 7, 2009 at 3:14 pm
You can tell for sure that this was done by a group of kids and hes under the age to be tried for an adult, but the people he was probably with weren't. FSU isn't a big deal so stop talking about it. Pleasanton parents seriously need to do something with this time on their hands instead of being so f-ing nosy.
Posted by Wake up!!!, a resident of the Stoneridge neighborhood, on Apr 8, 2009 at 12:43 am
Im a police officer in a very busy and violent world ouside of my bubble in P-town. This kid may have admitted to his crimes, but he and his parents should be held 100% responsible for his actions. Im sure there were more involved, but what's he going to do...snitch?? PLEASE!!! Many of us feel the adult age should be lowered to 16 years old, as is the legal driving age..
Bottom line, he is in a "wanna-be" never will be "gang." He is clearly missing some type of belonging at home and feels the need to "thug" around with the leftover trash in the city to try and fit in. Too bad he is not over 18 yrs old...maybe he would actually get scared straight!! Thank you liberals of California and may crime carry on... Job security for all of us guys/gals!
Posted by AVHS Dad, a resident of the Stoneridge Park neighborhood, on Apr 9, 2009 at 2:18 pm AVHS Dad is a member (registered user) of PleasantonWeekly.com
As I said before, there's nothing here to show the parents or the young man have done anything but behave responisbly since the incident. He himself said he had "anger managment issues". Better to deal with it now than after he turns 18, and it sounds like that's exactly what they're doing.